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Uncanny X-Men #1 (1963) - So apparently the X-Men aren’t named after Professor X…

Uncanny X-Men #1 (1963) - So apparently the X-Men aren’t named after Professor X…

HatalamtheNoble

For Ex-Tra Power! Lmao gotta love the 60s


kenneth1221

"The one where Xavier lies in order to look less like an egomaniac"


DarkAlphaZero

“The one”


Jmojocat

Kirby wanted to call the book The Mutants but got shot down because they would have to keep explaining the name


Lethargic_Logician

Not Kirby, Lee. Naming the book and characters was Lee's department, Kirby came up with the setting and the characters' powerset.


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Xavier: "secretly I want to fuck this 17 year old but I can't tell her because it would endanger my mission, otherwise these feelings are completely appropriate"


FidgitForgotHisL-P

Wasn’t she like, 14, when her parents sent her live with an old bald dude and 4 teenage boys alone in a mansion?


Lethargic_Logician

18 actually, she arrived at the start of the very first issue. She was said to be 2 years older than Iceman, who had his 17th birthday 10+ issues later.


FidgitForgotHisL-P

Thanks! If you’d out a gun to my head I would have remembered Bobby as being 16, Scott, Hank and Warren all being older. Hank is the oldest I think?


Lethargic_Logician

Bobby was 16, Hank 19, the other three 18. Bobby turns 17 halfway along the way, and Hank turns 20 just before graduation (Source: X-Men: The Hidden Years and X-Men: First Class comics). Not really sure how it makes sense that they were all in the same class though, especially given Hank was the genius and Bobby was the slacker. Or why they were all attending high school at College age. Or how Hank not only managed to graduate college, but also get a PhD, by only 2 years after graduating high school. I guess the explanation is, Lee and Kirby didn't give much of a thought about that. 🤷🏻‍♂️


FidgitForgotHisL-P

Thanks :) Thinking about the young x-men Hank brings forward, that whole shebang definitely seemed like they were all aged the same, so it seems pretty fluid depending on story needs I guess.


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Probably. I always assumed they were roughly late high school age.


[deleted]

Oh, well, then it's totally cool her 40-year-old teacher with mind control powers wanted that sweet teenage puss then. My mistake.


Lethargic_Logician

Lmao, it's not really okay obviously. However fans tend to make a big deal of a throwaway panel 60 years ago that hasn't been mentioned in the next 30 years. And when it was mentioned in the 90s, the writer actually did give an explanation for that: Xavier's mind was ravaged by a psychic parasite that created a dark personality within himself called "The Entity" that he keeps hidden using mental shield. That entity later led to the "Onslaught" storyline (hey, I never said it was a good explanation!). Years later, Morrison did the whole Cassandra Nova arc based on that idea.


[deleted]

I love the issue where Jean finds out. It was a great callback to a forgotten piece of continuity and Jean's reaction was incredibly spot on.


lepton_neutrino

IIRC Lee and Kirby intended for him to be in his late 20s.


[deleted]

Xavier fought in the Korean War with Cain Marko. Assuming he was drafted towards the end, at the earliest possible age, maybe. A lot of this was added later, but he graduated college at 16, and then entered graduated studies. I don't think you can graduate "early" from a graduate course. But let's say he gets his Ph.D. in four ish years. He was then drafted around the age of 20-21. That would put him around 33-34 by X-Men #1 The war was mentioned in issue 12, however considering the series was new, and the sliding time scale wouldn't be adopted until later, it seems likely this was meant to fit in real time. Of course their ages never make sense. Jean Grey's headstone notes she is 25 after the Phoenix Saga. In the 1990s, in that issue where Bishop stops a train by absorbing the energy within it Jean Grey jokes with Cyclops that he was born "40" before he says "I'm Twenty-fi" before getting cut off. I always took that as a funny joke about us never really getting to know how old anyone really is.


DarkAlphaZero

The more I think about it, the more chuck had it coming when Dark Phoenix Cyclops killed him


[deleted]

I wrote a 140 page X-Men script for an MCU film I'm quite proud of based on the Krakoa Deadly Genesis. It's basically all about how Xavier is kind of a huge, unethical prick.


zking2016

Damn I hate that. I thought it had something to do with like the X-Gene that caused mutants to have their powers.


MagicJoshByGosh

Lol yea why does everything involving mutants have to have something X-related in them? X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, X-gene, Weapon X, X-23, Professor X, X-Man… The list goes on


garhdo

Brand recognition.


FuturologyDiscussion

The X-Men's lamest ally: the marketing department at Marvel.


DarkAlphaZero

Literally argued against them being human to pay slightly less taxes on selling their toys.


PM_Me_Your_Fab_Four

That’s interesting, can I read more on this anywhere? Google has failed me


DarkAlphaZero

I remember hearing about it in a YouTube video years ago… I wanna say it was by Nerdsync but I don’t remember the specifics unfortunately


PM_Me_Your_Fab_Four

I’ll check it out, thanks!


RoughhouseCamel

It holds up if we’re supposed to assume Professor X stands for Professor Extra


ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE

> Lol yea why does everything involving mutants have to have something X-related in them? Because Xavier is a narcissist. He is a geneticist formally and he probably discovered and named the X-Gene. After himself. Everything else is just him lying to seem humble.


Lethargic_Logician

Tbh don't every scientist do that? Name something that you hadn't discovered after yourself?


HeidiwF1

"Because Xavier is a narcissist. He is a geneticist formally and he probably discovered and named the X-Gene. After himself. Everything else is just him lying to seem humble." Xavier the narcissist needs to be explored/explored much more than it has been.


ubiquitous-joe

Oh, I don’t know, we’ve explored him as an authoritarian asshole for a while now


HeidiwF1

Yes, Xavier has been explored as an authoritarian asshole but not as in depth as Xavier should be. Xavier is also very manipulative.


ubiquitous-joe

Don’t forget the New Mutanx, Caxble, and Dexpool


FidgitForgotHisL-P

And X-Calibur


Drakeytown

I think there is or was some marketing idea that things with x or z in their names sell better.


MagicJoshByGosh

Yea I guess, so it’s possible that they knew this but realized Z stuff is more zombie-related, so they went with X.


According-Ad8525

New Mutants?


ubiquitous-joe

Well they didn’t coin the X-gene phrase until later. But I’m sure Stan named him X-avier on purpose. They were trying to explain the premise to the (young) reader.


mrsunrider

[You aren't wrong](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/q0JFFeGAy8z39qfKiDrxxU-9J5f6h37Kz_yArMBDy7zBEIWq_KlwD0en3wywbjaxEafVwIPQHQuD=s1600).


rlrutherford

Once again Xavier is wrong, that red X is a big target. (Wish I could remember the issue that was pointed out in.)


nickferatu

“Ex-tra power” is a bit silly but not every concept can be perfect right out the starting gate. Still gotta give Lee and Kirby for coming up with the concept for superhero mutants.


Usagii_YO

Didn’t he steal the idea from M-People or M-Men or something? Basically identical to X-Men? Which came and went a few years before X-Men?


Lethargic_Logician

What are you talking about? Who are M-people???


Usagii_YO

Apparently I’m thinking of Doom Patrol. But I could’ve sworn it was “M-People” or something... 🤷🏼‍♂️


Lethargic_Logician

Nah, there was no M-people. And X-Men & Doom Patrol were released within only a couple months, impossible to copy the idea on that short a time. It was almost definitely a coincidence.


mrsunrider

I forget the issue, but they revisit this again in a flashback between Moira and Xavier, where he reveals he named the x-gene for being adding something "extra." But "Ex-Men" doesn't quite have the same impact, I guess. EDIT: [Found it](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/q0JFFeGAy8z39qfKiDrxxU-9J5f6h37Kz_yArMBDy7zBEIWq_KlwD0en3wywbjaxEafVwIPQHQuD=s1600)! UXM #300!


kainmcleod

i think things get lost in the times. i remember as a kid in the 80s and 90s before picking up comic books thinking the name “X-Men” was “edgy”. Super Friends, Justice League, Fantastic Four all had names that sounded very super hero-y, but “X-Men” had a level of intrigue and mystery to it. “‘X-Men’… did they used to be men? are they the opposite of man? what makes them different, what sets them apart?”. learning that they were mutants was a bit mind blowing, they didn’t look like ninja turtles, they didn’t look like the Toxic Avenger, most of them looked passably human. again, what makes them so different? watching The Animated Series and being shown some books just a few months before it came out, i learned the thing that makes them something like a superhero team is the same thing that makes them different and persecuted by the majority. now the “X” is reinforced. they aren’t your standard superheroes, they are outcasts, that edgy “X” in their name now makes sense. they are embracing the thing that makes them different and operating outside status quo. again, i think things get lost in the times, but this name really delivered something, at least for me in my imagination at one point in time, before access to information was so readily available, and it truly had my attention and drew me in. i can only hardly imagine what it was like 20-30 years earlier.


TheMightyHornet

Huh. I thought that this was common knowledge for X-Fans.


MagicJoshByGosh

Most people just assume (mainly because of the films) that they’re named after either Xavier or the X-gene, at least in my experience


foodank012018

I'm shook


Usagii_YO

Man, I’d love to be able to tap into my normal human power at some point...


acwann

Just imagine Stan Lee's voice when the professor is taking


et11robot

"X as in 'X marks the spot of the school you go to.' ... ... Which is here."


furie1335

I guess this is before the term “x-factor “ existed


Sullyp2k

X-Cetera


mdove11

There’s a belief that they are named after Professor X? That’s the new knowledge for me!


KlooKloo

This is repeated later in a flashback with Moira and Prof (in UXM #300 or so?), where she needles him for being egotistical, and he is surprised, saying he literally never thought about his name