Newsweek says Putin has threatened nukes at least 35 times:
https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-threatened-nuclear-war-35-times-uk-johnson-ukraine-russia-1720897
"Look, we might have been willing to end the war if you gave us all of Ukraine and maybe threw in Moldova as a bonus, but if you're going to keep bringing in foreign hardware and using it to shoot down our poor innocent cruise missiles and suicide drones, that offer's *definitely* off the table!"
Ruining their economy is a global effort to be sure. Ukraine's military success is the result of a global effort too. Russia's best bet is to eliminate support for Ukraine in other countries and they know that. We can't let their dumbass sycophants get their way.
Right, this and other public messages are targeted towards the foreign public, not Russians or Ukrainians or foreign leaders.
They're trying to instill the idea that peace would be possible if not for Western provocation (eg hosting a visit). It doesn't have to make sense, it's just repetition of a theme to encourage fatigue.
Pretty much.
There is always a chance for peace: just leave the country. It is not yours after all, don't be surprised they don't want to give you any of it.
> Just last week Russia was complaining about Ukraine's "aggression". Y'know. During a war. A war they didn't start. Hilarious.
I got a kick out of that. I have no idea how a country that is invading a sovereign neighbor, who made no aggressive moves toward them, is in any way justified in complaining about the aggression of the defending armed forces.
Of course, some will say "Russia doesn't see them as sovereign, despite the official breakup of the USSR", but as a matter of international law, that's not a valid view.
Others will point to Ukraine's constitutionally mandated aspiration to join NATO as a provocation, but that's still BS, because all they have to do is... not do anything to provoke NATO.
Its part of the absolute bullshittery which intention is to confuse people as much as possible and use the confusion to quickly settle the case in Russias favour. It almost worked, but they failed on the "quickly" part.
No no. Ukraine was violently aggressive to Russia by:
1. Refusing to assimilate into Russian language and culture.
2. Refusing to be a vassal of Russia.
3. Wanting to trade in Euros and not Rubbles.
4. Wanting to use the natural resources under their sovereign land.
5. Not being willing to die.
Don't forget the insistence that Ukrainians of the occupied regions voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia and that didn't have anything to do with the military invasion, war crimes, and Russian operatives who had been active in the area for a decade, and the "vote" was fair despite Putin actively carpet bombing and shelling those areas, and the vote totally happened and Putin won.
You disagree that it was a legitimate independence movement? Why do you hate democracy and self determination?
Definitely the Ukrainians invading New Russia, that's totally aggression. New Russia has a right to defend itself from the country they were forced to break away from.
Edit: the above post was sarcasm. Russians must be the dumbest people on the planet if they think anyone is falling for that.
There was! Russia has repeatedly tried to negotiate a peace settlement. Their totally reasonable conditions are just the absolute surrender of Ukraine, dissolution of the Ukrainian state and absorption into Greater Russia, and the arrest and execution of Zelensky and most of his command staff.
I cannot see how anybody could reject such a moderate and reasonable bargaining position, especially from the position of strength Russia is in.
P.S Fuck Henry Kissinger.
I wouldn't have to cut your power if you just let me in.
Everything will be better once I'm in control.
Why are you making me bomb your infrastructure? I don't want to, but I have no other choice.
Just let me take control. It'll be better that way...
Technically, they're have settled for *Novorussiya* (Crimea plus the entirety of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson Oblasts) as an interim measure, coupled with Ukraine returning all foreign military hardware, disbanding its air force, and committing to neutrality (i.e. Don't accept help from anyone else should anyone attack you in future). They would then have claimed Russian speakers in Myoklaiv and Odessa Oblasts (maybe also Kharkiv) were being subjected to a genocide, used moles to organise protests and repeated the 2014 strategy with them (possibly also Moldova, given it has a small pro-Russian Separatist Statelet, and earlier in the 2022 war, Russia claimed Russian speakers there were being subjected to a genocide) - then if the remainder of Ukraine failed to voluntarily turn itself into Belarus Mk. II...
How the fuck would they return military hardware? It's not like returning some bungee cords and a camp stove that you bought from Amazon while drunk. I can't even fathom the logistics of that.
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This is unironically the take of a lot of poodle either supporting Russia in this invasion or just against NATO/US/Ukraine for “starting this whole mess by forcing Russia”.
>the take of a lot of poodle
And we all know how important poodles are to the political process in the US. They're making every breed into a -doodle of some sort on their way to claim ultimate power.
It's never a peace for Russia, it's always a ceasefire to regroup and mobilize people on captured territory.
This is the whole point - we don't care much about territory, but right now ukrainians from Crimea and Donbass killing ukrainians from Kherson and Kyiv because they've been order so at gunpoint.
Yup - [The Institute for the Study of War explains this well in a recent article ](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/target-russia%E2%80%99s-capability-not-its-intent)
At least this should give second thoughts to the Russian-aligned members of Russian-speaking enclaves in other Eastern European and Baltic countries.
I imagine we’ll see them aligning themselves much more tightly with their fellow local citizens in the future. Because when Putin actually does come in to “save” you, it turns out not to be much fun for anybody.
7 red lines... All of them strictly perpendicular; some with green ink, and some with transparent.
Can you do that?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg)
Of course. I'm an expert.
I worked in an office environment and this video got referenced on the regular, despite it being quite on the nose with our day to day.
After listening to the requirements laid onto one of my colleagues by the various departments he was helping I showed him that video.
He laughed until he cried.
It's hard to say. Some of the potential successors are Kiriyenko, Medvedev, and Volodin and they're all making statements that are supportive of war. They're all spewing isolationism while blaming the West and 'Nazis' for all their problems.
What's hard to say is whether they really believe their propaganda, whether they're just trying to appear supportive of Putin, or whether they would continue his policies if he were gone and they didn't have to feel afraid.
The boldest you can be in Putin's Russia is to remain silent. Mishustin and Sobyanin have been pretty quiet. Hard to say whether that's because they disagree, simply want to maintain distance from the disaster, or are positioning themselves to be the person to re-establish relations afterwards.
You can read more [here](https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/87633). It's pretty unbiased IMO. I don't think the organization's slight left lean shows in this analysis.
let me fix this headline: “kremlin says no chance of peace after attacking its sovereign neighbor & committing mass murder on civilians & now crying like a bitch after getting its ass handed to it for 300 days”
The US is also giving Ukraine a crazy amount of intel. There was a video a while back showing NATO AWACS planes flying in bordering NATO countries (like Poland) 24/7, relaying info to Ukraine.
[Found it, here it is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYCLJDWckY)
This is exactly what we did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan in the 80’s. We supplied weapons, and training. It worked exceeding well. Well enough that it drained the USSR of resources and man power, ultimately causing the collapsed the USSR.
It seems that this time its playing out a bit quicker than before.
I genuinely wonder if there will be unrest in regions of Russia following this war, seems like the Russian military incompetence has to embolden those looking to get out from under Putin's boot.
I imagine Russia will be extremely violent in those regions to try to stamp out any intent to secede. The time to break away is now, while the vast number of troops are in Ukraine... Also, if they send losing soldiers from Ukraine into these breakaway regions those soldiers will likely be extra cruel on the individual psychological level
Well yeah, we have contingency plans for alien invasions and a godamned zombie apocalypse. We probably have 20 billion different plans for how to take on Russia, seeing that we’ve hated each other’s guts since forever.
that's the crazy thing, we were past the hate a couple years ago.
yeah, we thought they were still a little behind re: rights; yeah, we thought there were things they needed to work on; but largely we thought they had really opened up and become a global player.
remember when Romney said Russia was still our greatest threat and everyone laughed at him?
Russia has now turned back the clock on global relations 40 years...
edit: swype sucks.
>"The supply of weapons continues and the range of supplied weapons is expanding. All of this, of course, leads to an aggravation of the conflict. This does not bode well for Ukraine," Peskov said.
What are they gonna do. Attack Ukraine or something?
There is nothing russia can do to Ukraine that they haven't already done.
Russia out here acting like they're a scorned ex-lover setting these ridiculous terms and then blaming their former partner for when they are unable to meet those terms.
It's pretty distressing how one man's unwavering spite and inability to self reflect on his own mistakes is going to doom Russia to decades of backwardness and isolation. This whole war will be studied as a textbook definition of burning bridges.
Unfortunately it's not just one man. Many who stand behind him sincerely think they're invading Ukraine as a favor to everyone else and literally can't believe that so many would *help* the enemy.
We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see that they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it?"
Sadly, after Patton finally reached the ravaged city, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945, "for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed."
“The American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these.”
“The day is not far off when we will completely liberate the Ukraine, and the White Russia, Leningrad and Kalinin regions from the enemy; we will liberate... the people of the Crimea and Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldavia and Karelo-Finnish Republic.”
Poles, Czechs etc certainly felt betrayed by the West. They did their best to form an army and contribute to the allies. Polish Armed Forces in the West for example at its peak grew to nearly 250k men, insignificant overall, but given the circumstances it was the best they could do. For example in the battle of England Polish airmen contributed about 5% of the total German losses. Czechs also did their part.
Czech sign during a huge U.S. Army exercise (Dragoon Ride 2015) in response to the last time Russia invaded Ukraine:
["You are 70 years late"](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dragoon-ride-us-army-convoy-rolls-through-eastern-europe-reassure-countries-bordering-russia-1494208#slideshow/1431272)
As a born German, I very much have regret that Operation Unthinkable didn't happen. Allies were thinking about utilizing what was left of the German military against the Soviets. At least now it's starting to sound like it would have been a war worth fighting.
I can only imagine the terror and fatigue every body had from the war back then.
I do like to imagine what the world would've been like if they had managed to keep Manhattan project data out of the hands of the soviets. Imagine it taking significantly longer for the soviets to develop the bomb (and probably with far more failures). Would we have won Korea more decisively? What other impacts would that have?
>Patton was right about Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAIE9TbGyk
And so was Mitt Romney 8 years ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDq_v5jGEM
And so was Hilary Clinton 3 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF-ei9wzDBc
This is like watching a dude get shot down after hitting on a girl and being like 'FINE I didn't want to fuck your fugly ass ANYWAY!' before running away in tears.
Everyone hates Putin.
No matter who wins or loses, Russia has lost all credibility with the rest of the world.
The only way to fix this would be for the Russians to get rid of Putin.
And they're not gonna do it until things get really uncomfortable for Russians.
Anything that will make Russians more uncomfortable is good.
As if there was a chance before.
But now it's for realsies-with-sugar-on-top no chance
If Putin says "no chance for peace", it means there'll be peace soon. That is kinda good news
He did say they weren’t invading Ukraine.
He also said they aren't mass murdering innocents, and commiting genocide, kidnapping thousands of children. It's opposite day every day in RuSSia!
He always says the opposite of what he does, so those daily nuke threats are great.
I wonder if anyone is actually counting how many times Russia has threatened the rest of the world with nukes
At least 3.
Newsweek says Putin has threatened nukes at least 35 times: https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-threatened-nuclear-war-35-times-uk-johnson-ukraine-russia-1720897
The link isn't working, but technically I was correct.
"Nothing is certain until the Kremlin denies it."
Final warning.
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as if. let's be real here. it is more like *final-warning11111*
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“Do you realize you’ve been on double secret probation?!?”
CHEESE IT
ROBOT HOUSE!????
This is Russia’s final final warning.
No backsies!
Triple stamps it, no erasies
You can’t triple stamp a double stamp! You can’t triple stamp a double stamp! Vlad! Vlad!
"Look, we might have been willing to end the war if you gave us all of Ukraine and maybe threw in Moldova as a bonus, but if you're going to keep bringing in foreign hardware and using it to shoot down our poor innocent cruise missiles and suicide drones, that offer's *definitely* off the table!"
Now we know why Russia has to be so big. It's where they store their audacity.
Don't forget their sense of self-importance.
And their scumbag sense of self entitlement.
“Dam that sucks. I guess we will just have to keep kicking you ass at every turn and keep ruining your economy.”
Ruining their economy is a global effort to be sure. Ukraine's military success is the result of a global effort too. Russia's best bet is to eliminate support for Ukraine in other countries and they know that. We can't let their dumbass sycophants get their way.
Right, this and other public messages are targeted towards the foreign public, not Russians or Ukrainians or foreign leaders. They're trying to instill the idea that peace would be possible if not for Western provocation (eg hosting a visit). It doesn't have to make sense, it's just repetition of a theme to encourage fatigue.
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Pretty much. There is always a chance for peace: just leave the country. It is not yours after all, don't be surprised they don't want to give you any of it.
Shocking to find out aggressor is unwilling to stop aggressing.
Just last week Russia was complaining about Ukraine's "aggression". Y'know. During a war. A war they didn't start. Hilarious.
> Just last week Russia was complaining about Ukraine's "aggression". Y'know. During a war. A war they didn't start. Hilarious. I got a kick out of that. I have no idea how a country that is invading a sovereign neighbor, who made no aggressive moves toward them, is in any way justified in complaining about the aggression of the defending armed forces. Of course, some will say "Russia doesn't see them as sovereign, despite the official breakup of the USSR", but as a matter of international law, that's not a valid view. Others will point to Ukraine's constitutionally mandated aspiration to join NATO as a provocation, but that's still BS, because all they have to do is... not do anything to provoke NATO.
Its part of the absolute bullshittery which intention is to confuse people as much as possible and use the confusion to quickly settle the case in Russias favour. It almost worked, but they failed on the "quickly" part.
No no. Ukraine was violently aggressive to Russia by: 1. Refusing to assimilate into Russian language and culture. 2. Refusing to be a vassal of Russia. 3. Wanting to trade in Euros and not Rubbles. 4. Wanting to use the natural resources under their sovereign land. 5. Not being willing to die.
Don't forget the insistence that Ukrainians of the occupied regions voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia and that didn't have anything to do with the military invasion, war crimes, and Russian operatives who had been active in the area for a decade, and the "vote" was fair despite Putin actively carpet bombing and shelling those areas, and the vote totally happened and Putin won. You disagree that it was a legitimate independence movement? Why do you hate democracy and self determination? Definitely the Ukrainians invading New Russia, that's totally aggression. New Russia has a right to defend itself from the country they were forced to break away from. Edit: the above post was sarcasm. Russians must be the dumbest people on the planet if they think anyone is falling for that.
“Stop resisting! Stop resisting!” *gunshots* Yeah, pretty much.
Shocking absolutely shocking I say.
I am so shocked that my fingers are tingling. Or perhaps it is the lack of heating, either one.
There was! Russia has repeatedly tried to negotiate a peace settlement. Their totally reasonable conditions are just the absolute surrender of Ukraine, dissolution of the Ukrainian state and absorption into Greater Russia, and the arrest and execution of Zelensky and most of his command staff. I cannot see how anybody could reject such a moderate and reasonable bargaining position, especially from the position of strength Russia is in. P.S Fuck Henry Kissinger.
I wouldn't have to cut your power if you just let me in. Everything will be better once I'm in control. Why are you making me bomb your infrastructure? I don't want to, but I have no other choice. Just let me take control. It'll be better that way...
Technically, they're have settled for *Novorussiya* (Crimea plus the entirety of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson Oblasts) as an interim measure, coupled with Ukraine returning all foreign military hardware, disbanding its air force, and committing to neutrality (i.e. Don't accept help from anyone else should anyone attack you in future). They would then have claimed Russian speakers in Myoklaiv and Odessa Oblasts (maybe also Kharkiv) were being subjected to a genocide, used moles to organise protests and repeated the 2014 strategy with them (possibly also Moldova, given it has a small pro-Russian Separatist Statelet, and earlier in the 2022 war, Russia claimed Russian speakers there were being subjected to a genocide) - then if the remainder of Ukraine failed to voluntarily turn itself into Belarus Mk. II...
How the fuck would they return military hardware? It's not like returning some bungee cords and a camp stove that you bought from Amazon while drunk. I can't even fathom the logistics of that.
Read: "Russia wants its captured tanks back."
Elon didn't reject it. Also, fuck Elon.
This was my exact first thought. Just another layer to his fucking gaslighting.
“Did I mention we have nuclear weapons?”
Who do you think he is? Ghandi?
There was no chance before, but now there is also no chance.
Let us steal your land and there will be peace
You wanna peace of me?
It's like reading a spiteful remark of a middle schooler.
"you went to the principal?? Now I'm NEVER gonna stop beating you up. I woulda stopped if you just asked really nicely..."
this is the best metaphor. I came here to say it except I was gonna throw in bart and nelson. and a ha ha.
If it helps I read the comment in Nelson's voice.
Russia is trying to act like Nelson but comes across a bit more like Ralph.
I'm a Special Military Operation!
I'm in danger!
Zelenskyy no longer invited to birthday party
“Zelenskyy super-not invited to my birthday party”
"Zelensky is the nastiest skank bitch I've ever met. DO NOT TRUST HIM. He is a fugly slut!"
“On Wednesdays we wear Zs”
Putin is definitely not fetch
#***YOU CAN'T SIT WITH US!!!!***
It’s not my fault I have a wide set vagina and useless generals.
WE SHOULD ALL JUST TOTALLY STAB PUTIN!
Actually, Megan, I can't sit anywhere. I have ~~hemorrhoids~~ colon cancer, possibly
Friendship ended with ~~Mudasir~~ Volodymyr
Hahaha, exactly what I thought of when I read that comment. Man...i haven't seen that meme in years
Putin's going straight for his burn book.
"Dear diary, today I told Zel there's no chance we're gonna make up. And then I cried until I fell asleep."
"I'm telling mom"
Russia - “look, if you promise to let us kill everyone then we swear we will stop killing everyone”
"If he'd just pay me what he's spending to get me to stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him!" --Butch Cassidy
lol it sucks knowing that I'll probably never come up with a line that brilliant.
Not all of us can be Butch Cassidy
I bet if I really had to I could get the Bolivian army to shoot me
\*until the next time we want to kill everyone.
Basically ðe gist of ðe whole invasion really "STOP MAKING MOVES TO ALIGN WIÐ ÐOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN PROTECT YOU FROM ME!"
Icelandic speech-to-text?
See the lovely lakes?
A møøse bit my sister once
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> ðe gist of ðe What in the world possessed you to write it like this?
What an interesting sudden and unexpected segue from politics to linguistics.
Wow the chance fell from 0 to 0? What a surprising turn of events.
Russia is basically a goose. Peace was never an option.
r/geesearetheenemy Edit - someone made it?? Lmfao
But he stomped his foot and folded his arms this time!
He's going to hold his breath until he passes out now!
From 0 to Negative 0
It's actually higher now. When the Kremlin says something they normally mean the opposite.
If only the West would stop sending weapons and ammunition to Ukraine, Russia would pack-up and go home.
This is unironically the take of a lot of poodle either supporting Russia in this invasion or just against NATO/US/Ukraine for “starting this whole mess by forcing Russia”.
>the take of a lot of poodle And we all know how important poodles are to the political process in the US. They're making every breed into a -doodle of some sort on their way to claim ultimate power.
I’m keeping the poodles in!
It's never a peace for Russia, it's always a ceasefire to regroup and mobilize people on captured territory. This is the whole point - we don't care much about territory, but right now ukrainians from Crimea and Donbass killing ukrainians from Kherson and Kyiv because they've been order so at gunpoint.
Yup - [The Institute for the Study of War explains this well in a recent article ](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/target-russia%E2%80%99s-capability-not-its-intent)
At least this should give second thoughts to the Russian-aligned members of Russian-speaking enclaves in other Eastern European and Baltic countries. I imagine we’ll see them aligning themselves much more tightly with their fellow local citizens in the future. Because when Putin actually does come in to “save” you, it turns out not to be much fun for anybody.
There used to be no chance. There still isn't, but there used to not be, too.
I saw a Russian invade once. It was very unnecessary.
another red line, huh?
7 in parallel. One is transparent, another one outlines a kitten and two intersect.
Ah, I see you are an Expert.
https://youtu.be/BKorP55Aqvg This is the reference, for the uninitiated.
Interlinked
What's it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked
Interlinked
Within cells interlinked
I got that reference. The other skits are good too.
I think you meant perpendicular. Great sketch, I understood this reference.
7 red lines... All of them strictly perpendicular; some with green ink, and some with transparent. Can you do that? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg)
Of course. I'm an expert. I worked in an office environment and this video got referenced on the regular, despite it being quite on the nose with our day to day.
After listening to the requirements laid onto one of my colleagues by the various departments he was helping I showed him that video. He laughed until he cried.
Absolutely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MIJP90biM
This is like Monthy Python Life of Brian scene "say that once nore i smash your blody face"
Does Russia actually think there will just be some magical return to peace after committing gross human rights violations??
To be fair, there will likely be a magical return to peace once Putin kicks the bucket. I don't see him loosening his grip any time soon.
His grip will be loosened by someone who will not be peaceful either.
It's hard to say. Some of the potential successors are Kiriyenko, Medvedev, and Volodin and they're all making statements that are supportive of war. They're all spewing isolationism while blaming the West and 'Nazis' for all their problems. What's hard to say is whether they really believe their propaganda, whether they're just trying to appear supportive of Putin, or whether they would continue his policies if he were gone and they didn't have to feel afraid. The boldest you can be in Putin's Russia is to remain silent. Mishustin and Sobyanin have been pretty quiet. Hard to say whether that's because they disagree, simply want to maintain distance from the disaster, or are positioning themselves to be the person to re-establish relations afterwards. You can read more [here](https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/87633). It's pretty unbiased IMO. I don't think the organization's slight left lean shows in this analysis.
Yes. They are increasingly angry the rest of the world has not selfishly said "fuck Ukraine, gas is expensive so let's go back to normal."
let me fix this headline: “kremlin says no chance of peace after attacking its sovereign neighbor & committing mass murder on civilians & now crying like a bitch after getting its ass handed to it for 300 days”
To think, they have already been there 150x the time they thought it would take, to capture Kyiv.
“Russia starts picking the war America has spent decades and trillions planning for”
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The US is also giving Ukraine a crazy amount of intel. There was a video a while back showing NATO AWACS planes flying in bordering NATO countries (like Poland) 24/7, relaying info to Ukraine. [Found it, here it is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYCLJDWckY)
This is exactly what we did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan in the 80’s. We supplied weapons, and training. It worked exceeding well. Well enough that it drained the USSR of resources and man power, ultimately causing the collapsed the USSR. It seems that this time its playing out a bit quicker than before.
Putin and his friends have already pre-drained Russia's resources. This war is just exposing that.
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I genuinely wonder if there will be unrest in regions of Russia following this war, seems like the Russian military incompetence has to embolden those looking to get out from under Putin's boot.
I imagine Russia will be extremely violent in those regions to try to stamp out any intent to secede. The time to break away is now, while the vast number of troops are in Ukraine... Also, if they send losing soldiers from Ukraine into these breakaway regions those soldiers will likely be extra cruel on the individual psychological level
Well yeah, we have contingency plans for alien invasions and a godamned zombie apocalypse. We probably have 20 billion different plans for how to take on Russia, seeing that we’ve hated each other’s guts since forever.
that's the crazy thing, we were past the hate a couple years ago. yeah, we thought they were still a little behind re: rights; yeah, we thought there were things they needed to work on; but largely we thought they had really opened up and become a global player. remember when Romney said Russia was still our greatest threat and everyone laughed at him? Russia has now turned back the clock on global relations 40 years... edit: swype sucks.
“It would have behooved you to keep this as a hypothetical.”
Why does this comment sound like a Master Sergeant?
Clearly, you've been walking on too much grass lately.
Oh somebody find this fucking guy a goddamn window already
Give him a December to Remember. Tis the season.
You… you want us to gift him a Lexus?
0% financing for 6 months with great credit
Is it available to sanctioned individual? Asking for friend.
Its fine! It was only 4,000 and 0 APER!!
"Your polonium tea, Mr. Putin"
really hope he comes down with a bad case of gravity
>"The supply of weapons continues and the range of supplied weapons is expanding. All of this, of course, leads to an aggravation of the conflict. This does not bode well for Ukraine," Peskov said. What are they gonna do. Attack Ukraine or something? There is nothing russia can do to Ukraine that they haven't already done.
"Deploying anti-missle defense systems is an escalation of the bloodshed" - The guys launching missiles at hospitals and schools.
While Putin pouts, Zelenskyy is in Kherson While Putin postures, Zelenskyy is in Bakhmut While Putin pines, Zelenskyy is in Washington
While Putin shit himself..........
Zelensky took a normal dump. Like a regular fellow.
A normal dump and an easy wipe. Guy gets his fibers!
Russia out here acting like they're a scorned ex-lover setting these ridiculous terms and then blaming their former partner for when they are unable to meet those terms.
They're acting like a wife beater that constantly blames the wife for being hit.
Look what you made me do!
He can do a China trip though, mmm...
China doesn’t even want him in their Silk Road shit.
It's pretty distressing how one man's unwavering spite and inability to self reflect on his own mistakes is going to doom Russia to decades of backwardness and isolation. This whole war will be studied as a textbook definition of burning bridges.
Backwardness & isolation has been Russia's M.O. since the czars. At some point you have to figure it's a cultural issue.
Painfully true point, it seems to be that everytime the Russian people try to get up some maniac takes over and steers them all to certain doom again.
Unfortunately it's not just one man. Many who stand behind him sincerely think they're invading Ukraine as a favor to everyone else and literally can't believe that so many would *help* the enemy.
“Only I am allowed to visit other countries to ask for aid!”- A little Whiney Russian bitch
Patton was right about Russia
What did he say?
We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see that they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it?" Sadly, after Patton finally reached the ravaged city, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945, "for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed." “The American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these.” “The day is not far off when we will completely liberate the Ukraine, and the White Russia, Leningrad and Kalinin regions from the enemy; we will liberate... the people of the Crimea and Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldavia and Karelo-Finnish Republic.”
Poles, Czechs etc certainly felt betrayed by the West. They did their best to form an army and contribute to the allies. Polish Armed Forces in the West for example at its peak grew to nearly 250k men, insignificant overall, but given the circumstances it was the best they could do. For example in the battle of England Polish airmen contributed about 5% of the total German losses. Czechs also did their part.
Czech sign during a huge U.S. Army exercise (Dragoon Ride 2015) in response to the last time Russia invaded Ukraine: ["You are 70 years late"](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dragoon-ride-us-army-convoy-rolls-through-eastern-europe-reassure-countries-bordering-russia-1494208#slideshow/1431272)
\*Battle of Britain
As a born German, I very much have regret that Operation Unthinkable didn't happen. Allies were thinking about utilizing what was left of the German military against the Soviets. At least now it's starting to sound like it would have been a war worth fighting.
iirc he wanted us to keep steamrolling east after meeting with the soviets in germany
Imagine how different the world would have been if that happened.
I can only imagine the terror and fatigue every body had from the war back then. I do like to imagine what the world would've been like if they had managed to keep Manhattan project data out of the hands of the soviets. Imagine it taking significantly longer for the soviets to develop the bomb (and probably with far more failures). Would we have won Korea more decisively? What other impacts would that have?
Not to stop in Berlin and keep trucking to Moscow.
>Patton was right about Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAIE9TbGyk And so was Mitt Romney 8 years ago... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDq_v5jGEM And so was Hilary Clinton 3 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF-ei9wzDBc
I genuinely feel bad for Romney for all the shit he got for that comment.
Because they were all on board for peace before this?
Damn we all just misunderstood them
Russia's love language is rape, murder and bombing children's hospitals. It's just a communication issue.
As if. That's the reason you can't make peace? We are sending billions of dollars in aid and weapons, but a trip to DC is a deal breaker?
LISTEN, THIS IS MY FINAL, FINAL FINAL WARNING
Sorry,, but I'm already going to prom with America.
Russia is so child-like. "You went and ate lunch with Suzie and I'm jealous of her and I hate her, so now I won't share my cookies with you."
What you gonna do? Invade?
They're just complaining that a red line was crossed. For the 1000th time.
Fuck Putin, straight to hell
What Kremlin says is worth less than goblin farts
This is like watching a dude get shot down after hitting on a girl and being like 'FINE I didn't want to fuck your fugly ass ANYWAY!' before running away in tears.
This is the point. Russia is punching itself out with its own chaos and stupidity.
Oh please, like he was ever going to accept negotiations before.
Putin's days are numbered. I hope whoever moves into his spot isn't quite as despotic and 'war crimey' as he was.
Not too many nice candidates around sadly
Everyone hates Putin. No matter who wins or loses, Russia has lost all credibility with the rest of the world. The only way to fix this would be for the Russians to get rid of Putin. And they're not gonna do it until things get really uncomfortable for Russians. Anything that will make Russians more uncomfortable is good.
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