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BenDover03717762

India is building up major parts of their industries and energy generating systems. Assisting them in building it in an environmentally friendly manner will reap great benefits in the future as the biggest potentials for greenhouse gas savings are in the nascent economies of the global south.


QuestionsForLiving

Australia had the highest greenhouse gas emissions per inhabitant of all OECD nations in 2019, at 21.63 metric tons per capita. ​ This was followed by the United States and **Canada**, who produced 19.93 and 19.52 metric tons per capita respectively ​ Interesting, isn't it? There is perception about Canada and there is fact.


Zenuna

The green image from Canada is 100% Quebec fueled.


No_add

What is the perception of canada supposed to be? From an outside point of view they seem to have much of the same enviromentally damaging and car-centric infrastructure that the US has.


Essotetra

9000 trees per capita in Canada, at 48 pounds per tree Canada would be negative 210 metric tons per capita. There is perception about impact and then there is fact.


Smart-Bug9688

Well done! Nice to see good news.


Inflation-Fair

and China, 136 GW, fuck… I can’t even express how much that is. I worked on a solar plant with 11000 solar panels and it was around 3 megawatts. So if I’m doing my math right thats just under 50 million solar panels


Remarkable_Soil_6727

Unfortuantly China is also building more than half of the world's new coal power plants. Globally, the number of coal power stations is actually growing as new constructions more than offset the closure of old plants. Construction of new coal-fired stations is occurring overwhelmingly in Asia, with China accounting for 52 per cent of the 176 gigawatts of coal capacity under construction in 20 countries last year.


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lostcattears

Oh... But who is first and second place?


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We’re not allowed to talk about 1st place 2nd is America


Pam_Schrute

The obvious 1 China 2 US


TheCaspica

So the top 3 are also the top 3 major polluters? That makes sense. I don't get the snarkiness about China in this thread though.


bs_talks

The 1st is "you know who" The 2nd is America


H4xolotl

Damn didnt know Voldemort was into Renewable Energy


loxagos_snake

Harry Potter and the Treehugger's Turbine


bs_talks

Secret of voldemort's success. Free, non polluting energy.


plugtrio

Excellent


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3rd? I assume 1st and 2nd must be countries who are always complaining about manufacturing country emissions


RomanTea1

First is China, second is USA


chad_memer69

Finally a good news.


E_BoyMan

Good news.


ayang1003

Not surprising. India is one of the most polluted areas in the world as well as having one of the largest populations. The demand for energy is simply too great and costly to just rely on fossil fuels.


bs_talks

The logic is why should we be importing polluting energy sources when we can export green energy. That's why solar alliance concept came up. People gravely underestimate how a policy change in India helps not only India but the entire Southern Asian countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Maldives & even some African countries as well. It's called Indian subcontinent for a reason.


Exciting-Pangolin665

The electrical grid there is a mess needs a complete overhaul


Glittering-Swan-8463

Why? Is something wrong?


bs_talks

Basically a bit overloaded. Needs upgradation not full bottom up overhaul.


Glittering-Swan-8463

Makes sense. Big country old wires bound to need an overhall every few decades.


edmlifetime

Which is it bruh make up your mind or stop talking out yo asshole


bs_talks

What?


Sri_Man_420

Distrubion system is fucked, Discoms can't make money and no choice to households.


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Aren't they also ramping up their oil from Russia?


Zekrom16

And reducing oil from other sources so it balances out. India reduced their purchases for expensive Saudi oil to instead buy cheaper Russian oil. So they are consuming same oil as they would have before but just changing the supplier.


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Adding green but balancing out oil and gas doesn't really help us though. There needs to be a reduction of oil and gas. The time for lateral movements is passed.


Zekrom16

Yep exactly , that's why India is building more nuclear reactors 10 will be built in fleet mode. India also has the world's largest solar farm and is expanding and building even more. Edit: Germany is building coal plants after stopping nuclear power plants going backwards. India is progressing in hydro as well. Honestly more countries should switch to nuclear energy. Edit: I don't understand why are you popping up in this thread and saying weird unrelated stuff. I see that you're from America you energy from clean sources is only 20% India's is 36%. Russian oil isn't even part of the equation here but you're bringing it up.


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r/worldnews users trying not to talk about geopolitics on an appreciation post challenge (impossible).


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kw_hipster

Probably like their CO2 pollution - not in the top 10.


Winds_Howling2

Interestingly, per-capita is often used to look at emissions because of the question of how to go about reducing them. In the case of a country with high total emissions coming from a relatively lower population with each person emitting large quantities, it is easy to trim the extra fat per-capita by taking away non-essentials such as burgers and SUVs. But if the total emissions come from a large population with miniscule per-capita emissions, there is no way to reduce said emissions without "removing" a portion of the population - a very disturbing idea indeed. That's why the logic of "per-capita emissions are irrelevant, India needs to emit less by any means possible" is fundamentally at odds with "not killing people," and why per-capita emissions are rightly brought up whenever India's contribution to CC is discussed. This also applies for all other countries with significant emissions coming as a consequence of a large population instead of a smaller population with a higher per-capita footprint.


kw_hipster

So you are saying it begs more fundamental questions about the long-term stability of our whole modern day economy and infrastructure? (Since its easier to get someone like Canada to reduce emissions but much tougher for a country with a big population to reduce emissions)


Winds_Howling2

For sure. However, IMO long term stability is more prominently brought into question by our economies relying on perpetual growth - especially given how we'll drown and suffocate in our own waste far before than we manage to build robust and scaled-up tech that transports huge chunks of our economy to other planets and allows them to grow there...


kw_hipster

I completely agree - that's probably the next evolution (or downfall) of our society. After all, you can negotiate with humans but not the laws of physics....


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sendokun

I Didn’t know all those Russian oil India bought were renewables…..


chad_memer69

There are many things going around world rn. Ukraine is not the only country going through a crisis.whole Indian subcontinent is going through a financial crisis,what US donated 4 million dollars LOL. You guys are really self obsessed.


sendokun

Well, my sarcasm is about how we like to self congratulate on some meaningless nice PR gestures we do in the name of saving the climate. I mean, of course, it’s nice that India is adding more renewable, but the reality is that India, much like the whole world, is still absolutely addicted to oil.


bs_talks

Dude, why dont you become an Indian for a month. Run a 2 wheeler or a 4 wheeler and you will be extremely addicted to oil. /s


chad_memer69

or Ride a oercrowded auto. It will surely make him love oil


chad_memer69

First West DeIndustrialized India. When India is trying to catch keeping Environment in mind that west didn't kept. Appreciating her effort is not a bad idea. Nobody hates oil more than India, It increases our trade deficit.


edmlifetime

I mean its easy to talk shit sitting in a 1st world country. Until you walk in other peoples shoes refrain from making ignorant and worthless comments


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One_Researcher_4097

No buddy, that’s your mom.


I_speak_truth_only

She's a stripper ig?


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agentjob

The developed nations put the waste in a container and ship it to the poorer countries, call it "managed" and give themselves a pat in the back.


uddi0101

Dont you Americans send most of your waste to China ?


that1_apple

Damn can’t give ‘em credit for anything huh?


Winds_Howling2

We can probably deduce that from the money they have to manage waste, or would've had if it wasn't stolen from them under colonial rule!


AHAdanglyparts69

Ganges river?


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kw_hipster

Not sure that's the right metaphor. Sure, India ***in total*** is the 3rd largest CO2 polluter, but then again, it has the 2nd largest population. When we look at pollution per capita, it's not even in the top 10. Maybe a better metaphor is a large town (which naturally has a lot of pollution) creating a large recycling program.


mhornberger

Almost like solutions to pollution are incremental. Their people need energy access. To reduce coal use, or even to just forego *more* coal use in a short time, they need to build out more renewable capacity. They were going to use the energy anyway. Better from renewables than from coal or gas. Nuclear also exists, but [renewables scale more quickly](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-production-by-source?stackMode=relative&time=2010..latest&country=~IND).


uddi0101

I love it when dumbfucks like you talk about polution. The per capita emissions of the US is almost 15 times than that of India yet you Gas-guzzling assholes will never take responsibilty.


futureKCNconnoisseur

gas-guzzling assholes. Nice.


futureKCNconnoisseur

me american. me find math hard. me drive fat ass trucks to nearby places.


Winds_Howling2

No, because there's obviously more inertia associated with a country than a person.


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kw_hipster

India isn't a rich country like say Canada or Qatar and doesn't consume as much energy per capita, so that doesn't make sense.


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frozenfin85

Wow ! Speechless


I_speak_truth_only

Take your per capita date and shove it up your mum's pussy. That's all you have got here haha


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