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Just remembered that the 20-something year old website for a local amusement park that has been out of business for over a decade is still hosted on Homestead. I thought you all would appreciate this madness.

Just remembered that the 20-something year old website for a local amusement park that has been out of business for over a decade is still hosted on Homestead. I thought you all would appreciate this madness.

Took_Berlin

Just inspected the site. It's all done with position absolute. Around 400 divs... pure madness.


cocinci

And yet 20 years later I can easily navigate the site on my phone. It works on any screen size (just zoom in and move around) any resolution, any aspect ratio, any device and all that without any update in 20+ years. Half of the modern clunky responsive sites can’t boast with that right now let alone 20 years in the future.


Caltaylor101

Literally just thinking that


slide_and_release

Browsers are built to be backwards-compatible, not necessarily to anticipate whatever stupid shit developers in the future will cook up.


bobcottle

And those future developers are busing cooking up lots and lots of shit.


crabmusket

Future me is cooking up something heinous as we speak!


slide_and_release

This is the way.


sgt_yarbs

Loaded fairly quickly as well, no waiting for big clunky UI framework to bootstrap and no lag zoomed and swiping around


bobcottle

Also got a 87 score for Desktop on PageSpeed insights.


Fats_Falafel

Well some of the rides from that theme park actually killed people from what I remember so this makes sense.


DemeGeek

Are you sure you are thinking of the right park? Wikipedia doesn't have any info on deaths happening there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whalom_Park


TrustworthyShark

I think every theme park had rumors of deaths circulating when people were young.


TheMarketingNerd

Links to news articles? Would love to learn more about this lol


croc122

Wait is this the same park that HBO made a documentary about called “Class Action Park”? That one was located in New Jersey.


DemeGeek

You're thinking of "Action Park". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park


BONUSBOX

i would look again but i don't feel like deleting another midi file


INFINITI2021

LMAO yeah, why does it do that?


Zinohh

From what I recall Homestead offered a drag-and-drop page builder. I'd imagine it was all put together through the builder GUI and this was the generated HTML result XD.


queen-adreena

Instapage does the same thing.


massiveboner911

Imagine trying to add new content with 400 divs set to absolute. Id be a chain smoker by the end of the day and I dont even smoke.


triszroy

z-index: 10000000 !important.


I_Am_Phoenix_Person

A true masterpiece!


Fats_Falafel

Note: If browsing on your phone it may attempt to download some MIDI files, which was the style at the time.


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im using firefox on desktop and it blocked "multiple downloads" lol. very cool site


FredFredrickson

I saw the same thing on mobile Edge. After watching hundreds of elements load/draw into the map individually, and a midi file get downloaded. What a mess, haha.


covert_bear

Mobile Edge ... why?


BananaCharmer

He's just trying to be edgy


punchspezinface

Ahhhh


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kylerson

It's on the app store


Wombarly

To sync up any settings/history/bookmarks if you're using Edge on Desktop as well.


kylerson

Because it's a good browser Bront


perfectfire

I didn't even know such a thing existed.


FredFredrickson

Because it syncs with desktop Edge. I switched to Edge because I like Chromium, but would rather not have Google look over my shoulder at everything I do.


DevRz8

"Give me 10 MIDIs for a nickel" I'd say...


punchspezinface

"and then I'd load 400 divs, which was the style at the time"


DonDeanyo

The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt


Fats_Falafel

This page makes me want to have SEeEeEeEeX


Squigglificated

They're meant to autoplay, not download. Your website wasn't cool unless you had an autoplaying midi-tune in the background.


CaptainShinjuku

Can confirm! Choosing the right MIDI for each page was the part I spent most time on.


hearwa

Mine was all random songs from final fantasy 7.


LetterBoxSnatch

This is the way


anyfactor

How the heck it downloaded some midi files without me authorizing them?


hmnrbt

But they didn't have the white ones, the only ones we could get were the big yellow ones


stfcfanhazz

Huh, it asked me to wear an onion on my belt


phoenixstormcrow

I'm gettin down to some 8 bit Crocodile Rock, no regrets.


RicoChr

It just downloaded 11 files to my device without asking. How is this even possible? 😂


anarchyisutopia

It also tried to tie an onion to my belt. How old is this site?


JimmyEatWhirl

Wow, that's seriously impressive. It looks janky as hell now, but it's not much different conceptually from what the modern Hershey Park map is like on their app. I'm impressed that anyone was trying to do that 20 years ago. Also good of them to warn visitors of the dragon at the entrance!


GermOrean

Holy shit. The amount of love that went into this website. It just oozes passion project.


Wolfeh2012

You're right here, did you check out the pictures? The site isn't just up. Someone is maintaining it and adding new photos. There's updated images of after it was closed down that look closer to how it is today.


Odysseyan

I...I wouldn't even know how to create such a mess on purpose if someone told me to recreate that site.


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ArborGreenDesign

I used to do the same thing! Lol 3,209 images in perfect harmony on my 640 res.


fedekun

Dreamweaver, Photoshop and PHP :)


CodingCarpenter

Man Dreamweaver was my jam. I loved that tool so much


DragoonDM

1. Find a WYSIWYG website editor. Maybe find a copy of an older version of Macromedia Dreamweaver. 2. Slap as many animated clipart GIFs as you can find into the page. 3. Use a random assortment of [web safe colors](https://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/Web_Safe.html). _Random_. 4. If you need to make any custom graphics for the page, install a copy of Windows 98 and use Paint to make it. For text logos/headers, Google "flaming text logo generator" and use one of the results. 5. Abuse framesets. 6. Don't wait until you've actually finished the page before you upload it. Just pick a random assortment of GIFs from [this page](http://textfiles.com/underconstruction/) to stick all over the page while you're working on it.


antiADP

In regards to #4. Don’t forget ClipArt.


Fats_Falafel

Image maps were surprisingly common back in the day. I am gonna have to pull this up on my laptop and check the dev tools to really see what's going on here.


amemingfullife

I guess they’re back in now *cough* gather.town


bradgillap

Image maps was the first thing I thought about too. Way easier than table slicing back then. But this looks like post CSS era so I dunno.


kToni73

True, but what they found normal back then is not the same as now. It's like a Fossil 😄


not_a_gumby

I would just quit


jhartikainen

Amazing. Chrome also downloaded a bunch of midi files lol


Fats_Falafel

Yeah it must just be the way Chrome handles MIDI. I checked the source code and didn't see anything nefarious so figured it'd be safe to share. I was doing HTML around that time before falling out of it for like 15 years. I totally forgot image maps were a thing hahaha


punchspezinface

>I checked the source code You poor son of a bitch


Fats_Falafel

I was just looking for weird script tags. I didn't try to dissect the whole thing hahaha


hello_world_19

This is so pure and wholesome.


Hypersapien

Apparently the rides there killed some people.


Haku_Sama

That is so pure and wholesome.


AMA_About_Rampart

This is less pure and wholesome.


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gotta hear both sides


SpiderFnJerusalem

As far as I'm concerned, that's just them being environmentally conscious. What better way to reduce their visitors' CO2 footprint than to remove them from the environment, permanently?


hello_world_19

Yeah just talking about the website not the actual place


Bluffsters

The good thing about that era of webdev was that every site had something unique to it. Now every site is made with bootstrap and/or a standard Wordpress theme.


Fats_Falafel

Wordpress and Google are working together to homogenize the internet and in the process ruining recipes for home cooks everywhere.


massiveboner911

My god the blog sites. I just want the goddamn recipe not read sometimes 22 page essay of bullshit created for just “page engagement” for SEO.


marocu

**Some Recipe You Want** "In the beginning, there was light..."


Chase_Fitness

Ironically the store.google.com is a bitch to deal with when trying to shop


vazura

That's because the bar for making a website is so low now, anyone worth anything moved onto to making applications.


subone

Actually a bit satisfying watching it load.


jimx117

Oh shit, I grew up going to Whalom Park! After 5pm on Wednesdays it was just $5 to get in! Place was g.d. fantastic. Throughout the 80s and mid-90s the place couldn't be beat for its value. There's even a segment for it on some PBS documentary of 'America's 10 oldest theme parks' or something like that. Worth a watch for the historical footage! Unfortunately the park did not keep up with the times (really, at all) the way Canobie Lake Park in NH and Riverside/Six Flags in Agawam did, and Whalom was left in the dust. I'll always hold a spot in my heart for that rickety-ass wooden roller coaster though.


quickly

It was a WHALE OF A TIME


Fats_Falafel

Fun fact: I got both of my covid shots at the CVS in Lunenburg. Didn't occur to me to drive by this place and see how it looked. 2nd fun fact: First place I ever had Dippin' Dots.


frigidds

theme park dippin dots were another level of goodness when i was a kid. man, i would kill for a cup rn...


jimx117

They have a stand at Franklin Park Zoo! Sometimes you can get knock-off dots from vending machines too but they're not quite the same experience.


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Fats_Falafel

🙄


drakens6

Not bad work for the era, I expected something a little scarier. Those seemingly erroneous \`table\` elements were needed for compatibility back then (Guess which browser)


Fats_Falafel

There's actually something like a popup warning in the code that checks for IE and says certain features are only available if you have it. Weird times hahaha


ChromiumNeutrino

Is it _meant_ for items to pop up incrementally? Or is it a slow connection?


Fats_Falafel

Too many random gifs and shit loading one at a time. It only takes like a second on my phone but it is still hilarious to watch.


Nunchers

I did some personal exploring on the page and went to the Roller Rink. There's a picture of a little lady, Gilda, age 18 in 1945. I looked her up and found her family tree. On the next pictures over, you can see she brought her children there in 1959, and returned for a party in 1973, all grown up. All pictures were provided by her children. bread crumbs of her life exist on an outdated web page for an amusement park that no longer exists. crazy shit.


Nunchers

you can even find comments from her children in 2011 from when they uploaded the photos to the site. She met her husband in that Rink.


xCelestial

That's the feeling I have right now! It's like a hidden little time capsule on the internet that i never would have seen without happening to come onto Reddit just now. The layout, the photos, the people, and I just realized \*how old\* this site is? I feel like we've found a fossil or an alien or something haha


bobcottle

>bread crumbs of her life exist on an outdated web page for an amusement park that no longer exists. crazy shit. That's gonna be my eulogy.


Davros2106

As the Dev for lingscars.com, I approve!


Fats_Falafel

The internet was better when it looked like this instead of everything being the Astra WP theme. Change my mind.


Davros2106

100%. Truly unique sites 👌


bobcottle

Yeah, there were a lot of horrible sites to sift through. But the great ones were truly unique. Now most of the good and the bad look the same. And take 3 metric tons of Javascript to work.


Achaidas

Legend


not_a_gumby

All that manual positioning of divs to make a theme park layout and they couldn't change the title from 'index' to something more useful? lolol Also, about halfway down there's a spinning tornado that says 'click the tornado to view the natural disasters that struck the park' which seems like a silly feature.


OlduvaiMan

This is 1000x better than I was expecting.


degecko

Damn, how much did this take to do?


rynmgdlno

All of it.


crab-rabbit

how much of what?


BillieGoatsMuff

Tables


crab-rabbit

What?


prettytheft

TABLES


INFINITI2021

No tables lol. just position absolute.


degecko

Time


crab-rabbit

I don't imagine it took that long to create, but the time it took to modify would be a lot


burnttoastnice

Damn, the text is broken AF in Firefox. Had to spin up IE to see everything properly... which is something I didn't think I'd be saying in 2021, lol https://imgur.com/a/8hyGrlz


Jonny15T

[whalompark.homestead.com](https://whalompark.homestead.com) would like to... \*smacks block... **hard**\*


OldManWithAQuill

This is amazing! Certainly brings back some memories.


constipated_pal

Homestead... my god the memories


SDVNova

EPIC


whetwitch

Love this! It chewed 5% of my phone battery lol


jayseventwo

Comes complete with downloadable midi file! :)


Ok-Yesterday8492

This part made me laugh; Please note: This website is an ongoing construction site. Video clips, photo's and more are continuously being added daily. Please be patient and return often to view the new additions. THANK YOU :)


frankywaryjot

I don't see the issue really. It works for me, it's responsive and all. Come on guys are you always so perfect?😏


Yo_Face_Nate

This is glorious!


KingdomOfRyan

what is this strange file it came with??


Fats_Falafel

Midi file?


KingdomOfRyan

yeah, it was a joke


Dystopia-Blues

my eyeballs hurt


greg8872

That is awesome!


delete_it_now

What a gem.


jc_dev7

Omg imaging loading that back in the day.


punchspezinface

Omg I want to inspect the terminal and page source, but I'm honestly afraid


Hypersapien

Whalom Park! When I was a kid I saw commercials for that place when I would go to visit my grandparents in Massachusetts.


webtryp

I had a whale of a time visiting this site. At once sadistic and fun.


Blastbug

Holy pop in Batman!


JustAnotherBAMF

Lmao what the fuck kind of website is


zalogon119

The music is amazing!!


misterjyt

opening, makes my browser go crazy


illithoid

I'm the 11,756th visitor. That number is way too low.


JTab_Design

I don't see anything wrong with this site at all, except maybe it needs more animations.


MathematicianOld3758

I have no idea what's going on, but this is beautiful.


rhooManu

I... Can't even say if its pure art or total garbage. It's... Garbart? I mean, it's like a SVG 15 years before SVG.


crucial_web

Wix website designer: "No Comment"


TheMarketingNerd

Thanks for sharing this awesome time capsule!


pingwing

I used to go here as a kid, it is in Massachusetts. My dad's company RCA, used to have family day there. There is a link on that page to it's [angelfire.com](https://angelfire.com) page too, lol!


ExecutoryContracts

Looks like it got the reddit kiss of death. Thank goodness for the way back machine: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://whalompark.homestead.com/


Fats_Falafel

Not sure what you mean. Original link still works for me.


mrcoy

Whoah


TheSanscripter

You know what? At least it's creative. I wish we could do more bonkers stuff like that nowadays. Feel like those that do find a good balance between the out there stuff and the corporate vibe end up on awwwards.


Kadabradoodle

11 years old me would've spent hours exploring that website.


Prexsplay

Coolstuff


bobcottle

Was looking for the guestbook and "contact the webmaster" link.


jam_pod_

"Click on the tornado to view the disasters that struck Whalom Park" Yeah we need this kind of UX to come back please


Matowang

Jesus


drummerof13

Took about 5 seconds to fully load with a connection of \~600 Mbps. I can only imagine what it was like waiting for the contents to gradually appear 20 years ago.


barca2400

wow, that's trippy


Science-Compliance

How did anyone ever think this looked good?


aloevera123

Do not accidentally accept the link to download multiple files !!!


dance_rattle_shake

Fuck I was in a zoom meet at work, how about a sound warning, damn