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Year3030

Reloaded my options account. What are some good bear plays that would pop sometime before end of year, that have decent IV?


HotPersonalitys

No hahaha, I always only play with an amount I'm ready to lose


LoanOk7509

The young bull said to the old bull, “Let’s hop this fence and fuck that heifer.” The old bull said,”Let’s just walk around the fence and fuck all of ‘em.”


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)


Calvertorius

We’ve got BoE injecting unlimited amounts of cash between now and October 14th, along with other major economies doing some fuckery. The month and the quarter just closed today after a brutal month. Next FOMC meeting isn’t until November, which is also mid term elections. Who else thinks October will be nicely green? I’m thinking SPY 390 - already got a banbet placed.


Jarlaxle_rigged_it

390 then short that shit to 340


Low_Ad_2846

Unlimited quantities of useless money


devereaux

£65 billion total is not "unlimited amounts of cash" from the Bank of England. In fact, with the FX that's only about 2/3 of the amount the the Federal Reserve is now rolling off their balance sheet *every month*.


Calvertorius

Thanks for the correction. I thought I read that BoE was buying unlimited amounts of bonds between now and 10/14.


devereaux

Yeah, it's not an insignificant amount of money, but it's really more of a bandage over the following month to give the pension funds a chance to adjust their risk exposure and also give Liz Truss and the Tories a chance to fix their budget (e.g. either don't cut taxes so much or find a way to significantly reduce spending).


TJK9922

Gme gonna rocket soon


Justgamingorwhatever

Bro...bro, it's over man. Let her go


SpicyRiceAndTuna

I can fix her


TJK9922

Damn yall really are bipolar


Godmode92

If 2020-2021 gains were from QE, then would it be a good argument that even if Fed kept rates where its at now 3.08 and stopped raising, SPX would **still** fall to about 3000?


ultra_expo88

Most hedge funds are in the red according to Bloomberg sources. The only real money a lot of them have made was shorting the July/august rally. My conspiracy theory is that they’re gonna need to show some yearly gains to justify their clients keeping money with them and they only have one quarter left to do so. Thus they’re just gonna have to hold their noses and start buying soon. As a result we have an implicit “hedge fund put” now instead of a “fed put”


The_Punicorn

If they could do that, they would have already. Blackrock alone could probably sink them all.


ThatOneDrunkUncle

Hedge funds are so small in comparison to real institutional money like fidelity and vanguard. There's no chance they can hold up the market


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Fidelity and Vanguard and the other brokers actively trade against their investors..... They have all the information.


ThatOneDrunkUncle

Fidelity doesn't, I worked there. There's a big firewall between different parts of the company. I would imagine its the same at vanguard


ultra_expo88

Okay I really meant hedge funds + asset management firms. Basically all the “smart money” combined


ThatOneDrunkUncle

All big asset managers have to do is beat the benchmark. Absolute returns don't matter in the industry. I bet most big money managers are beating the benchmark, all they had to do was be underweight small caps, which they usually are


devereaux

Kids here don't understand alpha. Some of us have tried to explain it to them, but they don't want to know.


ultra_expo88

The problem is, clients don't give a fuck about alpha. Yeah it's great to beat the benchmark and that's what they tell you their goal is but when clients fear for their money they're going to want their money out. What I said was my conspiracy theory but it stems from the fact that money managers are really gonna strive to do what they can to show some returns yoy


TJK9922

Bulls were happy about an hr ago


FudgeWifywhileIwatch

Remember when Peloton was over $150 and killing babies. Those where epic days!


ultra_expo88

Now we have these basic girls protesting about roe v wade like bitch you have a baby killer at home. Just use that


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orteg3940

>We still think a soft landing looks unlikely in the US


YoloStonks4Tendies

Anyone think that we may see things get a bit better in October heading in to the midterms or am I clutching at straws?


FudgeWifywhileIwatch

I hope they get better Monday bought calls at close🤪🤪🤪


YoloStonks4Tendies

Good luck next week. May your calls bring you lots of tendies.


blahblahranger

This economy sucks, people dont want to work(me included) and alot of productive people retired. We are going to see alot of pain before things get better imo


YoloStonks4Tendies

Yeah people seem real demoralised. I can see the midterms being a disaster for the dems unless they can give people some semblance of hope that they can do something good with the economy.


Ready2gambleboomer

Like what kind of "hope"? More stimmies?


blahblahranger

The dems have had 2 years gov control and an intimidated fed I dont think people trust them on economic issues. That is why they are pushing the dobbs desicion so hard.


devereaux

They'll do the same thing they've always done for not accomplishing anything, no matter what, and blame Mitch McConnell - and in some respects they are still actually right in doing so.


YoloStonks4Tendies

Yeah hopefully we are almost half way through and someone competent can come in and get things moving again.


edmundamore1

Young bulls. If only you could like and subscribe your way out of that close. Get boned.


Apprehensive-Hat5979

My put expired and I lost $5. I hate u all!!! (=.=)


abraaoneves

I lost money with pits today also, WTH?


LaitchB

my long term spy puts are fucking PRINTING dude


FudgeWifywhileIwatch

Mine too, sold at close will buy again next week. I think we may get a Oct bounce!


LaitchB

i probably should have sold mine but fuck it we ball


FudgeWifywhileIwatch

I didn’t expect that drop in the last 15mins. I had just set up limit sales that were way ITM. Must’ve been a sign!


ultra_expo88

I guess people forgot to sell the PCE news till the last fifteen minutes


Cart333

gg


notsoscarydino

NVDA was +3.5% the morning. It is now -0.27% at close. These MMs are playing 4D chess everyday to lure in liquidity.


Calm-Garage4119

I opened call options for Monday, good or bad? definitely big green gap up after this bloody month 🫡😂


Calvertorius

I learned to avoid holding over the weekend unless you plan to hold for the distance. I’ll buy some on Monday personally.


FudgeWifywhileIwatch

Sold my puts a picked up some calls.


blahblahranger

October is historically a green month lol


Calm-Garage4119

After every bloody September comes a green October 🫡


navkrishh

Gaps are looking fine to me.. it was like the draw down was perfectly orchestrated by MMs


Legitimate_Action761

Lol, everyone buying the dip. Hate to break it to you all, not that kind of market anymore.


sonofalando

Sold a $347p for SPY expiring October 5th


Phukface9000

Oops


moneydoesntsleep

snek me


ajs02aj

My largest position didn’t trigger to sell… of course. praying for an lower open on Monday.


Calvertorius

Sorry bro, been there too. It means a long weekend filled with checking updates constantly from Friday night and starting again Sunday night with that chest crushing stress.


oradell18

That chest crushing stress is what makes it so fun. Unfortunately, that feeling is usually followed by an empty, numb, what the fuck did I do feeling Monday morning when market opens hugely green and the gainz goblin walks away with all your unrealized profits quietly muttering “guh” to himself.


ArnoldRothsteinsAlt

F


ThatOneDrunkUncle

That close tho 😎


Brawmethius

Fuck. How did COIN and 🌽 make it through in the green. Like how is that not blatantly manipulated. Clearly shit data, but with the rest of the market in super low volume gamma squeeze. Pops. Then the rest of the market comes back to reality . But 🌽 and COIN just fucking range bound. Sure enough massive sell/buy walls on 🌽. Option chain on COIN sweeps. Then like right on fucking queue last 2 minutes of markets buy orders disappear and boom crash.


Ambitious_Theory_171

Why do we think corn should be behaving like stocks right now?


Brawmethius

Because it has been trading with a strong correlation to general securities for two years now. Plus it literally followed as soon as market closed. Like all the buy walls in the spread were dropped at 4pm Eastern on the dot yesterday. If you look at daily trading volume cycles it trades in volume with the US securities market. Maybe they set out at one point to decouple from securities but it is currently coupled to general securities.


lolikmomzy

Small Cap tech did overall well today.


gainzsti

Corn is the most whale manipulated crap that exist.


moneydoesntsleep

i've had puts on coin for weeks. non-volatile pos. i'm waiting for a scandal to break out and coin will realize its true worth down to 40-20 range. trading activities are down. no way theyre making any money these days


sc2summerloud

manipulated as fuck, and holding onto 20kish for dear life. once this breaks, we get the next big leg down.


Commercial_Method278

Literally the entire day was just a bull trap…..


DirtyJimCramer

Yeah if you sat on your calls all day. I took profits and made money as a bull today.![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)


hgcjbcf

Dumb bulls really thought it would go to 370 today


CheapHero91

360 is history. 350 next week


hula_tx

What a rush! You guys make this even more fun!


Mycatisbrown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmqJl4MoNI


DTF_Truck

Someone should really tell Putin that if he buys SPY calls and then cancels his war, he'd at least win at something.


decjr06

I think he'd rather buy puts and launch a nuke


ShitBagHolder

Lmao this is the only correct response. Why try and backtrack when you can guarantee puts instantiating with the push of one button


Lonelyinternetperson

you dont think he got people doing that already


BlackIronSaturn

With what money? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


devereaux

They could always sell all the bitcoin and gold they've been using to evade sanctions


BlackIronSaturn

A dynamite trading day for me, my roll from a long put into a 0dte put printed, which allowed me to strangle, which printed on the put side, allowing me to recoup what I spent on the strangle by earning double what I spent, enough for me to leverage a closer ITM call for next monday. That never happens, Usually I just fart my way into a good play. This makes up for that bullshit on Wednesday. Good show. Fucking finally. Used up three day trades, but it was worth it.


RemarkableScarcity8

When’s Shopify going to 0?


devereaux

These last 15 minutes of SPY and QQQ options trading after the bell are always a crazy black box of turbulence and pain with MMs trying to reduce exposure


mobap99

Love the setup … bleed it right up to the midterms, great stuff. Gas should rip upward again too soon… Byron won’t be able to deplete the SPRs fast enough to offset it anymore.


devereaux

He's already drained so much petroleum we're back to levels we had during Reagan's first term in office


Calvertorius

If there was ever a time to use the reserves outside of all out invasion of CONUS, this is the time. It’s a good play to use them.


AlpineDrifter

Helping reduce the cost for American consumers *and* our European allies suffering from energy extortion and the biggest war in Europe since WWII. What an idiot he is…


glennfromglendale

Looks like algos are on an after hours buying spree


TheseYoung6546

Finished Septembear +$35k. Think I'll take the girlie out for dinner tonight. Cheers, fellow retreads!


Novel_Expression1454

How about August?


TheseYoung6546

Was -$14k in August. Sometimes the market is regarded.


Calvertorius

We don’t talk about the dark times.


TopTech58

Sold my UNH Calls a little early this morning but still made a little bit on the run up and bought puts but damn if I didn’t sell them way too early. Profit both ways just not as much as I should have. Oh well there’s always next week as long as Putin behaves himself


SuperWario13

Thank god its happy hour after that close


QWERTY_FUCKER

If only that kid who blew all of his dead dad's cash had waited a littttttttttle longer lmao


_Apache_Helicopter_

Holding puts over the weekend, hope I don't get burned


Reduntu

"Worst first 9 months in two decades" fuck yeah dot com bubble status


Hawks_and_Doves

Worst first 9 months in two decades yet


Ready2gambleboomer

Headed back to the bar. That was brutal. See you guys Monday for more.


Justgamingorwhatever

Trading options is like Hotel California: "you can check out any time you'd like, but you can never leave."


fiero444

It ain’t the fall the gets ya, it’s the sudden stop at the bottom


Overwatch1818

I won't rest until the last bull is dead


Lonelyinternetperson

lol.. like you even move the market dude


Fine-Understanding-3

salty bull detected


Lonelyinternetperson

Not really. I played both long and short this week just like any week, which a proper trader should.


fiero444

We still have much further to fall


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

The cucks are definitely gonna try to shake-out the pandemic low. Greedy fucks. Cash ready to deploy around then.


Zack_Fair_

historically wsb turning bearish is a bottom signal


Hawks_and_Doves

Wsb been bearish for weeks and we keep falling. Folks on here need to recognize the external conditions we are facing are too different from previous crashes to predict where this goes. I think it'll be worse than 08.


quantumpencil

and you'll be wrong


Lonelyinternetperson

no we dont, dumbass


Reduntu

dalio said 25% more about 3% ago


Lonelyinternetperson

Dalio also said that China was a good place to invest into and its the next super power. How is that Alibaba stock doing again? And how is China doing overall? No problem investing there.. oh damn.. even his own damn fund sold out of China. Sounds like the guy is simply trying to sell his stupid ass book


fiero444

Did you buy calls before close?


Lonelyinternetperson

lol we know we will go up now when 8 people instantly downvoted me ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) No I didnt buy calls before close. But I of course will on monday, especially when the futures will be green as hell. Look at the damn stocks... apple is getting close to its june lows. Tesla as well. The rest of the big names is already there. Be realistic dude.. and for your information I did short Tesla plenty of times this week and also shorted Apple earlier and Amazon and AMD and Plug and the markets. So im no "bull" or "bear".. im simply a trader


Hawks_and_Doves

What in the hell makes you folks think June lows are anywhere near the bottom? The gall lol. The only reason June didn't go lower is because of copium at large and market manipulation.


fiero444

I’m bearish right now, but June bottom saw a TON of support from heavy buying. Now since it’s bottomed out again, investors are very skittish


Lonelyinternetperson

Ah yes... "we didnt go where I wanted it to go cuz of MANIPULATION!!!!!!!" Why dont you just play both long and short instead? Life is so much easier that way


fiero444

We’ll see. Obviously it’s not going be a straight path down, but I still think we aren’t at the bottom yet.


Lonelyinternetperson

Neither do I. But I doubt we will see the bottom this year. And I am convinced we have seen the lows of the year now. But ill short at the end of the year, thru derivatives of course. Til then I try my luck on longs


fiero444

I mean I hope you are right. That would be amazing, my 401k would love that right now.


Lonelyinternetperson

Feels nice to agree with someone on reddit haha.. not every day that happens. Thanks ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)


fiero444

Lol that’s Reddit for you. If you have even the slightest difference of opinion in that specific thread, then everyone’s gonna downvote you to oblivion. That being said, even though I think the market may fall more this year, I don’t enjoy seeing everyday average people losing their retirement money just so I can make petty money on my puts. I just go with whatever the market is giving at the moment.


linaustin5

Why r u fighting bear hunter


Lonelyinternetperson

just stating the obvious. Lets see here.. ah yes.. the downside maybe 5-10%. Upside.. about 100+% at this point. I bet you guys were the morons who shorted march 2020 at the lows and got nuked when powell said "turn on the money printer boys!"


linaustin5

Imagine relying on a printer for ur bull case 😂


Lonelyinternetperson

What are you on about? Never said that was my bull case


Amazing_Papaya_1027

what's the point anymore


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

The reason why 90% of the people you'll talk to don't fuck with stocks. It's a hustle.....


Reduntu

Its always been masturbation. That is the point of life.


Lonelyinternetperson

to go long monday


Discofootman

I sold my puts 3:50-3:59 except for about 25% because holy sheet that action


CheapHero91

sold my puts too early. damn


zombie_harv

Me too. But profit is profit and there’s always another play.


BlackIronSaturn

it's never too early if you got a profit.


CheapHero91

yeah. sold tesla puts at -0.30%. then it went down to -1%. but still a profit


Jerraldough

True shit


chinnick967

Literally the second I bought Calls it went straight down the rest of the day. Sorry boys x)


Fine-Understanding-3

🫡


Ready2gambleboomer

End of quarter call crush. Damn that musta hurt. *No wait....fuck that hurt.*


BlackIronSaturn

Slipped in a 367 call that expires next monday right before closing bell. With bargains like that, and dumb market behavior, it just felt right.


sealteamjerry

Have fun with the theta…


SpicyRiceAndTuna

FUCK THE WEEKEND, LET ME BACK IN THE CASINO


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Open the fucking casino.


lax_street

thank God my short spx puts were stopped out. I'd be 💀


KnownUnderstanding84

Nooooo I didn’t get to cash my APPL puts bc my boss was talking to me!! Hopefully this price holes till Monday 🥲


Cement-Demon

SADGEEEE


Jamber_Jamber

Limit sell orders dog


RemarkableScarcity8

Intel 1 dollar puts?


HankcusYt

Ahhh bulls


Likezoinks305

SPY 320 at open Monday not a joke ⚠️


Interpersonal

Was getting ready for a last minute pump and offloaded some of my puts before the dip from 359-357. I got shaken out. Feels bad man.


picksicx

3200 s&p next month


Schwimmbo

I'm probably going to regret it in a couple of weeks but sold a duo of ITM 10/14 puts for 130% gain. Can't watch the markets on Monday and I'm scared of losing what I virtually had. Still -$100 balance for today lol.


Cement-Demon

good decision. Enjoy the 130% gain, have a treat!


ch0sen_0ne

Atta boy


Calm-Garage4119

What a close today i milked the market dry on pooooots 🥛


Bilbo-Baggins77

Made up my losses from Wednesday and a little more. Have a great weekend 🥛


Calm-Garage4119

Calls for Monday will pay off


Bilbo-Baggins77

What are you playing? I'm holding some SQQQ 10/28 $60c that have been printing this week. Closed out my SPX puts today, sitting in cash.


Calm-Garage4119

SPY 10/3 Calls bro I hope we good to open green beginning of the month


ch0sen_0ne

Same


Calm-Garage4119

🫡


Reduntu

Man last i checked we were up 1%+ what happened


Calm-Garage4119

I whaled puts


Sea-Guarantee-6953

lol cant wait for tom lee to say he end year spy target is still 4800 lolllll


navkrishh

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Cantkeepamydown2345

I work for a fortune 100 tech company and I’ll say that eod dump was a bit worrying


Zeroknowledgeproof87

same


AsaKurai

I was a bull for too long and joined bear team yesterday. Nothing will ease the pain until we see favorable data come in for the FED, this market is screwed until then


navkrishh

Every data that came in today was screwed up.


Cement-Demon

Imbalances came at 1.3 BILLION sellside , largest since march 2020


terran42069

Fuck you bulls for even trying to pump. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)


jsneakerstech

Recession confirmed


WorldClass17

Weekend thread cult here we come!


Comprehensive_Tea388

I inversed myself and bought SPY 360c Oct3. Playing a bounce on Monday.


SpicyRiceAndTuna

Snagged some cheap calls around that range too, then rolled my puts farther into the month. This shits too easy