By - ListentoUncleSam
You ask this on Reddit? Lol
Is this a prank?
No, op just parachutes into different subs to ask if they believe in demonic possession, or believe in God, or why his girlfriend is wrong for breaking up with him when he asked that she give up a career to have at least six kids with him.
this is gold. I wish I had an award to give. take my upvote.
I’m Christian and this just seems super dorky. I’m not sure what’s worse, the idea or the logic.
“With liberty and justice for all” is much less divisive
E Pluribus Unum would be pretty solid as well.
Agreed but no one knows what that means.
but its provocative
Just as fake though
I’d rather have something meaningful like “I wanna rock” or “We’re not gonna take it” idk…. What was the question? What twisted sister lyrics do we want on the kit?
No one thinks this, troll job is troll
No. That would definitely divide some of the fanbase. I however could understand putting one nation. Also the under God reference was added in 1954 after lobbying from a Catholic organization. Besides what happened to separation between govt and religion.
Been asking myself that a lot these past few years.
Why not the BLM and Pride armbands have been just as divisive. Why is it suddenly we're talking about this when religion is being brought into it?
LGBTQ people are getting discriminated against and are specifically targeted by bills aimed at restricting their rights.
Black Americans are also often times on the receiving end of excessive force by the police, mistreated against, etc. I remember reading a comment from a black American on the NT saying that sometimes it's hard representing a country that doesn't accept you or hates you because of your skin tone.
Edit: It was DeAndre Yedlin who said it
But yet USSoccer was radio silent and did NOTHING during the rise of Asian hate crimes during Covid despite the fact that we've had Asian-Americans represent the team. We had 3-4 games during the #StopAsianHate movement. No armbands. We had 2 games after the Spa shooting. Still nothing. But yet months after George Floyd we were still kneeling and wearing BLM armbands.
My opinions on having things on the shirt has changed drastically over the years when I found out how hypocritical US Soccer is.
If players want to express their freedom to protest or represent whatever cause they want to, go ahead.
But now it's obvious if you're religious, you don't have the freedom to express it. E.g Jaenele Hinkle missing the WC because she was going to be expected to wear the pride armband. Where is her freedom to express her beliefs same as everybody else? Why was she punished yet Megan Rapinoe who made racist comments in the past still gets to be in the team?
Have the anti-Asian hate crimes been committed by police..?
Such a stupid argument.
"They don't get a band or a shirt because they weren't killed by police only racist people."
And yes unarmed Asian men have been killed by the police.
First off, I'm disappointed that USSoccer has said next to nothing about asian hate especially as an Asian American. However you got people such as Acosta who is Japanese American talking more about asian hate which is fantastic and the MLS putting out statements about asian hate. Would I like to see more done? Obviously and I hope it happens. But this doesn't mean I have to put down pride or BLM because they got more recognition.
On Hinkle, the WNT is a very LGBT friendly place. She not only refuse to show support to teammates but when same sex marriage was legalized in the USA, she stated the world is falling further and further away from God. That kind of shit will ostracize someone especially if the national team has many lesbian players. Do you really expect someone who has made comments indirectly attacking teammates to be called up for a World Cup?
Rapinoe shouldn't have made those comments and it's a fucking disgrace but she also retired the same year those tweets resurfaced. So it's not like she kept getting call ups for NT
Good you feel that way. I am not Asian but my next door neighbors are Hmong so I'm very aware of the silent struggle that many Asian Americans let alone Asian Immigrants have to face.
I am not against having LGBTQ or BLM on the jerseys in principle. I have only come to be against it because there is a lack of consistency from US Soccer's messaging.
I support players who want to wear the rainbow jersey or the BLM armband.
But just in the same I support players freedom to choose not to wear it and be free from condemnation. Even if I don't agree with their religious or personal beliefs.
Because if US Soccer truly believes in the #OneNation statement, this is the truest way to express it.
Our slogan now is “One Nation” so that would be enough IMO. Also, your post history is fucked
You are from Spain, currently studying in the UK and you are coming onto the US Soccer subreddit to talk about slogans on a jersey? All of your posts are ridiculous question across a dozen different sub reddits. Most of them downvoted to hell.
How do you know so much about my life? you been stalking me?
Fuck no. Shouldn't even be in the pledge or on our money.
What type of “American spirits” do you exactly want lifted? No offense but I think you and your friend live in a bubble if you think this is an idea to even consider let alone discuss it openly on the internet.
Dude, for real, been laughing at this post all morning assuming that was the case lmao. I feel like we are all being trolled by the OP
I feel like something like this would bring unity. It's a good slogan to have for USMNT in the World Cup. For example, the Welsh national team have the slogan "together stronger". So there's nothing wrong in having a unifying slogan such as "one nation under god", which is also on the pledge of allegiance.
Does your opinion change on this matter if we were to add "One Nation" to the jerseys without the "under God" part?
No he didn’t. You’re just trying to get a conversation or argument going. Lies.
I don't think everyone is religious so it would never happen. There are plenty of other non-religious lines that could be used instead.
it's not about religion. It's the official pledge of allegiance line.
It's an official line from the pledge of allegiance that is religious. It can be both things. [https://history.princeton.edu/about/publications/one-nation-under-god-how-corporate-america-invented-christian-america#:\~:text=During%20the%201950s%2C%20Eisenhower%20revolutionized,the%20country's%20first%20official%20motto](https://history.princeton.edu/about/publications/one-nation-under-god-how-corporate-america-invented-christian-america#:~:text=During%20the%201950s%2C%20Eisenhower%20revolutionized,the%20country's%20first%20official%20motto).
Use your head for a second dude, jeez.
Absolutely not. Do Arab nations have references to allah on their jerseys? Cmon.
1) not a good idea for a lot of reasons, and might actually inspire opponents and their supporters when we play Iran for example.
2) I think you wildly overestimate how much Americans would give a crap about it on our jersey as inspiration. I think almost as many would be put off by it as happy about it.
Lots of Americans (including some of our players for sure) don't believe in God and so don't feel 'unity' at all with that statement. To me it feels divisive, like you're trying to shove religion down our throats.
There’s nothing wrong with a unifying slogan. I think you underestimate how much “under god” is not unifying. This is not a religious state….we very specifically have a a separation of church and state.
Yea right under maybe an embossed AR-15 laying on a bible.
Rock, flag, and eagle instead.
Rock Paper Scissors Eagle
“It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
I'm against having anything on our jerseys period.
Why? Because America is made up of people with different religions, worldviews, backgrounds etc.
The beauty of this game is that despite all of our disagreements we can still come together during this time and form a team to represent our country.
We don't fly under the flag of whatever hashtag is popular during that time. We fly under the American flag. Full Stop.
God can be interpreted as "god" in any religion or any faith, that's why "god" was able to be used in the American money.
Having "one nation under God" makes sense because it's the American pledge of allegiance line, so having it on the jersey can bring unity and lift spirits.
>God can be interpreted as "god" in any religion or any faith,
"God" can not be interpreted as "god" in any religion or any faith when you specifically capitalize it and leave it singular.
If you can prove that there is at least one god/deity and that the US is subject to it, then I will be ok with having "god" on the jerseys.
Short answer: No!
Long answer: Heckin'fuckoffbitemeNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why not the whole Book of Leviticus?
Is this a serious post?
No. It should say, "no step on snek".
Why would "one nation under God" lift American spirits?
Wouldn't representing their Nation in an international sporting contest already increase their spirit?
I am personally athiest but I still love this idea. But people would probably get offended.
I don't think it's a matter of offense, but of division. Why put something on there that will divide people, when you could just...not?
That's still not a good excuse for doing something like that
Edit: I mean adding the One Nation under God to our NT shirts
Under God was added in 1954. It was added after Catholic lobbying.
What I meant before was adding "One nation under God" on the shirt.
You will disagree but I don’t necessarily think “one nation under god” insists upon the existence of a god 🤷♂️
So is the treasury secretary's signature but nobody's asking for him to sign all the jerseys. It's weird and arbitrary.
There would be Americans who would actively root against us if they added that on there.
If we’re just spitballing book club references for the WC kit, I propose “One Nation under Pod”.
How about the US motto instead
No question. Yes.