100% this is the fight to make. And nobody can change my mind on this.
By - jc_2772_
I mean, if masvidal wants to fight it’s for sure masvidal, especially cause burns/usman are teammates. I’m sure usman is willing to fight burns but the money is with masvidal, burns in 2nd in line for sure
If masvidal wanted the fight he would probably get it first, but i don't think he wants the fight and I think burns has a much better case now then masvidal. I mean Burns has dominated Demian Maia and Tyron Woodley, Usman wasn't even able to do that. And masvidal hasn't beaten the same level of competition that Burns, and Usman have.
What Usman did to Woodley can be classified as nothing other than total domination.
I mean masvidal said he wanted it on Ariel helwanis show a couple days ago usman just wants more money on his end.usman definitely dominated woodley and Maia what are you talking about? He may not have finished Maia but score cards were 50-45 49-46 49-46, and if you don’t think he dominated woodley you just didn’t watch the fight. Masvidal has amazing performances against till who I believe was ranked 3rd when he ko’d him and Ben Askren was top 10, pretty much the same as burns I think Maia was ranked 10-12 and woodley was 1 not huge differences in ranked opponents. Masvidal is a bigger star idk if you’re new here but the number 1 contender doesn’t always fight for the title, it’s usually what sells the most in the top 5
Yeah obviously if masvidal wants the fight then he'll get it, I said that in the last post, but I think Burns deserves it more. Usman dominated Woodley, same as Burns. I wouldn't say Usman dominated Maia, Usman played it safe. Not taking anything away from Usman, but Burns performed better against Maia. And Masvidal beat a Till who just got fucked by Woodley, and Askren and Nate are good in their own rights, but not as good as woodley and Maia. Love Nate but I dont think hes a top 5 level guy at welter Weight. In my opinion Burns, and Colby are the most deserving of a title shot rn. But if Masvidal decides he really wants the fight then yeah he'll get the shot, and probably get dominated by Usman.
Colby just got tko’d by usman he’s not getting another shot until he wins one more, masvidal is the money fight, masvidal wants the fight, watch him on Ariel’s show. Usman is the one that doesn’t want the fight until he gets paid more, don’t sleep on masvidal
Colby got stopped in the 5th round but he won rounds 1-4 ... very probable cause for a rematch
Noooooobody is talking about a Colby fights, it’s masvidal or burns that’s it, and Colby did not win the first 4 rounds lol it was 3-1 usman 2-2 and 3-1 Covington going into the 5th had the fight gone to the end in the 5th usman would have won a split decision
Lol what no way most un biased people had it 3-1 in favor of usman
It’s public knowledge google the scorecard for that fight and come back with an apologize
judge’s scorecards going into round 5 had it as a draw. however it didn’t get to that point cause usman finished him
Not sure about Maia but Usman completely dominated Woodley when he won the belt
He did 50-44, like burns. Against maia it was a pretty boring fight, Usman played it safe out of fear for Maias grappling. And their was a slightly controversial reset, where maia nearly had Usman's back and the ref reset them. Also Maia didn't even have a camp for that fight. Burns on the other hand didn't give a shit got taken down, got his back taken, escaped and slept maia.
Burns would tear Jorge a new arsehole at this rate.
It’s funny thinking how badly Burns would beat Masvidal.
I’d like to see that fight more than usman v burns honestly. That’d be fireworks.
He’s been on such a tear. I think he has a much better case for a title shot than masvidal after that performance. I want this as well, no doubt.
Obviously has a better case than Masvidal. The only one you can questions about having a better case is Leon. I still think Burns deserves it.
I’d like to see Burns vs Covington. Winner of that gets winner of Masvidal Usman
Burns vs edwards. Colby vs masvidal
This one’s it
Colby vs Leon Edwards,
Masvidal vs Conor.
I would say Colby vs Woodley, I really wanna see how that fight goes.
Colby stomps if the past two are any indication.
Who the hell would ever want to see Tyron again after his last two fights? He has absolutely no heart left.
I think it’s unfair to count a fighter out after just two fights, one of which he was the champion. One last fight to really prove he’ll drop this shitty fighting style of waiting (it’s not a heart issue) and if he fights like this again then yeah, cut him.
I think Colby would be the perfect fighter because he’ll be aggressive and Woodley has some real hate for him so if he doesn’t try ripping his head off, then we can safely say Woodley is done.
I think it’s pretty safe to say woodly is done after turning in 10 truly awful rounds back to back
I have no idea how anyone could be foolish enough to still think Woodley has anything left. Some idiot even suggested he move up to middleweight. Imagine that happens and he takes Romero in his first fight at middleweight. I can't imagine a more godawful fight. Battle of the rocks. Who can stay more stationary?
I agree moving up to MW would be a terrible idea but why you gotta do my boi Yoel like that? He had one bad fight where he didn’t move, but also didn’t get outclassed. Look at any of his five fights before that one and you see one of the most explosive fighters in the UFC. I don’t think the two belong in the same category, Yoel would run him over
Metapod vs. Metapod.
Truly a fight for the ages.
We could call it:
"**In And Out of Gay Jesus**"
I don’t think you’re being fair to someone who is one fight removed from when he was champ. I’m pretty certain he’s done as well but Dana is willing to give him another fight the way he was talking in the press conference.
I haven’t been following MMA for long and my first fight I saw of Woodley was him losing to Usman but when I see highlights of him, I’m seeing a completely different fighter who wouldn’t just back up to the cage much and would engage.
He is 38 and he’s obviously very stubborn but I think he should be given at least one more fight and I think Colby or Leon would be a good fight. He’s not punch drunk like Penn or Liddell and they were given for sure some extra chances so why not Woodley?
I dont think anyone's saying he should be cut, that's way to far. They just want him to retire before he ends up like Penn and ruin his own legacy
>I think Colby would be the perfect fight
I don't think woodley deserves a fight with colby. Tyron has turned in less than 90 points out of a possible 100 in his last 2 fights, i know you said you haven't been watching long but you dont have to be an expert to know that's absolute dogshit. it shows he doesnt belong in the top 5 of WW
Meanwhile colby had a great fight against Usman after piecing up lawler
The fight to make for woodley I think is lawler, give him someone outside the top 5
Poor leon edwards
Masvidal Usman is the real fight to make. Most money and views
Masvidal v edwards makes sense now tbh
You don't get to jump to the front of the line just because you beat up the ghost of Tyron Woodley.
Its such bullshit that everyone's trying to discredit what burns did. Tyron fought like he did against everyone before. Tyron Woodley did the exact same stuff that got him the belt and kept him there. Burns simply had an answer for everything. He pressured woodley with faints, kicks, quick hooks. He was quicker and more powerful. And on top of that he obviously improved his wrestling. And woodley also didn't have the option of taking him down, because its stupid to takedown a jiu jitsu world champ. Nobody in the division has beat Maia and Woodley and made it look easy. When Woodley and Usman fought maia they were forced to play it safe, burns knocked him out first round. Burns is the number 1 contender.
If he beats Colby or Jorge, then he can be the #1. Until then, get in line. Unless you want to seriously try to argue that Woodley looked like a #1 contender in there.
Problem is Jorge wants to not fight anybody in the top five so
Woodley was how he always was, he just got shut down. Same as when he fought Usman. Makes sense considering Burns was a training partner for Usman when he fought Woodley. And I would be hyped for Burns vs Colby
ghost of Woodley? this is the same version who fought Maia and Wonderboy. The only difference is Burns is stylistically more aggressive striker and does takedowns
Colby mas would be a hype fight imo, Colby pieces him up
I don't see how Masvidal could beat Colby or Usman, outside of a flash knockout
Edwards should get the shot first.
Burns should fight Colby.
Edward's last win was dos anjos, he needs one more fight in my opinion before a title shot.
Hes on a 8 fight win streak, compared to burns' 4 win streak
5 and more impressive names and performances
5 or whatever it is isnt better than 8, leon's been waitin for a while its his turn. And he was supposed to fight twood but corona got in the way. Burns can have colby its leon's turn now
It is better then 8 considering the names and performances. Burns last two performances are better then what Edwards has done. It shitty what happened with covid, but Burns has now proved himself against higher competition that Edwards. He was gonna fight woodley and corona doesn't give him a free pass now to fight for the title. He was gonna need another victory before and he still needs another now.
Legit burns hasnt fought any1 good, maia is washed and woodley is finished ofc, hes good but beating a guy who doesnt look like he wants to be on there doesnt giv u a free pass to a title when some1 is on a better streak than you. The names have nothing to do with it, Leons grinded for years and its his time now
The streak really has nothing to do with it if the other guy has fought better competition. And Woodley was the same level as he's always been, i think his skill plaetheued but he's still at the level he was as champ. The problem was Burns had an answer for eveything tryron could do. And tyron wouldn't take it to the ground cuz burns is a jits world champ. And Maia has only lost to championship level guys. Woodley, Covington, and Usman have all held belts and they all beat Maia. But they all beat Maia by playing it safe and costing to a decision, out of fear of Maias grappling. Burns said fuck that, defended his grappling, then knocked him out. Before that the last time Maia was tkod was 2009. I think Burns deserves the shot more then Edwards, but it prolly won't happen with all the shit happening in ww. So his next fight will prolly be against Edwards or Covington. And Edwards 100% needs one more win as his best victory has been RDA and thats not enough for a title shot.
Woodley really isnt at the same level he used to be, everyone is sure of that. The way the fighters beat each other has nothing to do with it everyone has their own styles of fightin etc. The only fair way i see this happenin is leon fightin burns, other than that burns doesnt deserve it yet
I agree he deserves a title shot but I think Masvidal should get the shot first. Then he gets the winner. This division is STACKED
You are dreamin if you think Dana in making an usman burns title fight next, even if it’s the right fight to make.
It is the right fight, but yeah you right
If Usman ends up fighting Masvidal, he should fight Edwards or Geoff Neal
Masvidal vs Colby or Leon would be better. McGregor needs to stay at 155 and stop trying to put his name in at 170.
Smallest ppv championship draw ever.
Nunes vs spencer
You make a point.
The fight to make is Burns V. Edwards. Yes Burns looked great last night but honestly Woodley is washed up and any of the top five would have done that to him. Burns V Edwards should happen. Masvidal v Usman but if Usman weasels out of that it should be Masvidal v Covington or Masvidal v McGregor.
Honestly I don't think Edward's is on Durinho's level. It so stupid how people try to discredit Burns win last night. Woodley did what he does every fight, but Burns had an answer for everything and shut him down. And even if that performance doesn't convince you of how good Durinho is look at his fight vs maia. NO BODY has done to Maia what burns did. Covington, woodley, and Usman have all beat Maia, but they were all decisions where they played it safe out of fear of Maias skill on the ground. Burns expertly defended Maias attacks on the ground and knocked him down with a quick hook. Before that the only other time maia was knocked out was 2009. Burns is on a different level compared to other welter weights.
Not trying to discredit Burns at all. I agree that Burns is proving to be a total savage. I’m just stating that Win over Woodley isn’t as impressive as a win over anybody else in the top five would be. Edwards absolutely is at the level to compete with Burns. Edwards is on a eight fight win streak with wins over Luque Cerrone and a complete massacre of RDA. Last time Edwards lost was to Usman five years ago when Edwards was 23 and Usman has said that was the toughest fight of his career. If you don’t think Edwards is on Burns level I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Burns v Edwards would be a Great War and it makes total sense. Either man could win, if Edwards could keep it off the ground I think Edwards would take the win.
Not saying it wouldn't be a good fight, but Burns has beaten higher level competition then Edwards. RDA is the only really good name on Edwards resume and RDA isn't on the level of guys Burns has beaten. Demian Maia has only lost to championship level fighters, and Burns had the most impressive win over him in years. And Woodley is the same fighter he was, I dont think hes getting much better, but he's not worse then he was as a champ. At this point Burns has proven that he is at the highest level, and I think Edwards is still unproven against that highest level. We'll only know if they fight, and it would be good.
Not sure Gilbert should fight so soon again his last fight was the first one with no fans I believe in March that would be 3 fights in 5 months two of them possibly 5 rounders. Not a good idea
Well I'm not sure usmans gonna fight necessarily soon considering he doesn't even have an opponent yet. But even if it was soon burns took a collective 0 damage in his last 2 fights.
Usman said he wants July but true hard to fight if you have no opponent. But it’s not just about the fight it’s the camps and the weight cut(I’m aware his cut to 170 probably isn’t that bad but still) also even if you take 0 damage(woodley punched him at least once right lmao) a 25 minute fight takes stuff outta you
Beat the number one contender, fight for title next, no?
How about Leon vs Burns and the winner faces Usman?
Nah give him Masvidal or Colby first
I wouldn’t mind seeing Burns fighting Colby. Would be a good test if Masvidal/Edwards gets the fight in the interim.
Masvidal then burns, unless Colby starts going after Masvidal. Dana wants the story between Masvidal and Colby
hes the only welter weight in range of a title shot that has won this year. and hes won twice.
Burns still needs 1 more win.
Yeh he's only got 6 wins in a row and just crushed a recent champ; but he still hasn't proven himself.
Not all were at welterweight. He needs 1 more
Masvidal vs Usman, Burns vs Leon, Colby vs Woodley
As much as Burns deserves a title shot, so does Leon and I feel like that could be an eliminator for the winner of Masvidal vs Usman. The welterweight division is just so logjammed with talent right now
If Masvidal chickens out, they should do this. They should do Edwards vs Colby for the next shot afterwards.
I would prefer to see Masvidal vs Usman but he seems to have his eyes on Mcgregor and Nate Diaz so no one can really complain if Burns fights Usman next instead. Burns vs Usman would also be a much closer stylistic matchup because of his world champion level BJJ too.
And after this, im sure, whoever wins will be talking about how they are the best ww of all time.
Really made Woodley look like he had no business in the conversation at all even though he's a former champ.
I've never seen somebody with Gilbert's physique who wasn't on the juice.
He’s just fighting at his optimized weight at this point imo. He was cut at 155lbs, he probably had a tough time cutting to that weight. Now that he’s fighting at 170 he’s probably closer to his walk around weight and doesn’t have to worry about a vigorous cut for him to make weight.
Tyron was yuge in comparison to BUrns
Lol would be a boring fight, usman too scared to fight masvidal he didn’t wanna fight him on 6 weeks notice before the covington fight and he doesnt wanna fight him now, masvidal ready to go.
How would this be a boring fight, burns is aggressive and can fight anywhere, standing, clinch, bottom, or top.
Usman had one of the worst PPV of 2019, Burns isnt gonna help that
The was one of the msot dominate performances by a title challenger in ufc history, it was boring cause it was so one sided and usman isn't going for the knockout. Look at his fight against covington that was fire works. And burns is always gonna be aggressive so it will probably be an entertaining striking fight, and if it goes to the ground Burns jitsu it gonna make it interesting.
No it wasn’t, usman was faking eye pokes and groin shots when the replay clearly showed he was faking it
The eye poke was real you can see it in the replay. The groin shot ehh, the best I could say is that it shifted the cup and hurt Usman, but prolly fake. And outside of that it was a great fight. Unless your a covington fan.
So how come he got poked in the left eye and it he was holding his right and the groin shot was on the belt line, im not a covington fan but that was slimy by usman
McGregor vs Gaethje
Masvidal vs Usman
If mcgegor fights Gaethje im gonna be pissed
"Well y'know its the fight the fans want right now so we just gotta make it happen" - DW
You wanna see McGregor v Usman?
Mcgregor doesn't deserve to fight for any belt rn. He should fight, nate or masvidal or someone in the top of lw or ww. He has to fight a good opponent before he fights a champ.
Yeah I agree actually. Not the Nate fight though. He should fight Masvidal fo sho
Yeah the nate fight would only be for money. If he wants a belt then he needs to fight a top 5er in ww or lw.