# Sometimes (always), I like to bring out the Miranda Priestly in me

Technically its Trans women ⊂ Women.

I come for the relatable memes, but the formal logic is fire.

What does that sign signify?

It is a mathematical symbol denoting "proper subset". If you have two collections of objects A and B, writing A ⊂ B means that every object in A is also in B, but there exists an object in B that is *not* in A. So writing Transwomen ⊂ Women says that all transwomen are women and there exists at least one woman who is not transgender.

Cool makes sense.

Depends on the writer. ⊂ and ⊃are sometimes used for *any* sub- or superset, and ⊊ and ⊋ for proper subsets and supersets. Others use ⊆ and ⊇ for subset and superset and ⊂ and ⊃ only for proper subsets and supersets.

Which is just *great*, isn't it

I’m just gonna pretend I understood any of that

Nah this is some computer stuff, they're defining transwomen as women.

Mathematics, not computers.

No the original post I mean. Transwomen = Women in computer stuff would be defining Transwomen AS Women. Obviously in math equality would imply Women = Transwomen which is not correct, so the [proper] subset symbol is definitely correct here mathematically.

In any civilized computer language = is for comparison, := is for assignment. 🤓

what ever happened to ==

*Why would anyone need a second equals sign?* I'm just kidding around like a nerd; I occasionally dabble in languages like Smalltalk and Ada which follow that convention. I'm forgetting my language genealogy for where that comes from now; shame on me.

be sure to separate trans and women in future as it's two words not one

Did I fucking stutter?

Full on Electra moment

Two words: trans women 👍 One word: transwomen is what TERFs use to mischaracterize and gatekeep. 👎

I don't understand this distinction and I've never seen it anywhere except this sub. I identify as a transwoman and write it as transwoman (unless requested otherwise).

i think the reason that trans woman is preferred over transwoman is that separating them emphasizes that being trans is an adjective, a descriptor. it would sound wrong to make compound words out of other descriptors right? like, it would look a little wierd to see someone write asianwoman instead of asian woman

>asianwoman This example is so good! I'll start using it :3

I guess I just have a hard time remembering what adjective-noun pairs in English aren't compounded, are hyphen compounded, or no-space compounds that a word like trans+woman feels right either way. English is so inconsistent about it. Thanks for the example though, that makes a lot of sense.

It's common for transphobes to write "transwomen" to make a distinction between "real" (cis) women and transgender women. They'd say things like "transwomen and women". Also, it can be debated it's grammatically incorrect. Trans is short for "transgender" so, since it's an adjective, it should be used as a separate word. Other times it's used as the trans- prefix which means "on the other side of", like "trans fat" for example. Which is also written as a separate word. So yeah, if I see someone writting "transwomen" it's usually a red flag that they're either ignorant, truscum, or transphobic.

I might have written that I don’t remember😬. But count me in the 4th category ‘uniformed’ please. I honestly didn’t know I needed to know that. But now I know :) thanks!🙏🏻

No worries uwu it's not something everyone knows c:

At least in pro-trans communities, we can be confident that like 90% of the time it's just that the person doesnt know.

Yup

Stupid cissy destroyed

Anna could never

There are no ifs buts or anything

every transwoman is a woman except for me that's how my mind works for some reason it has a point tho

OK but consider this You're wrong

it's hard seeing myself as a woman, when I'm in such body

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Yep, it's a pivotal scene from *Bee Movie*.

Trans women are just women but with extra steps, they’re the same, they are and always have been women