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Unpopular opinion: The bright white unsullied boring tennis shoes with jeans and bulky sweater date look must be stopped. I’m concerned about what it’s doing to US women’s coolness cache in the eyes of the world.
Unpopular opinion/assumption (and I thought this during Clayton’s season) - Elizabeth couldn’t get over her attraction/obsession with Shanae. She’s now bisexual and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what caused all the drama on Clayton’s season(her internal struggle with being more attracted to Shanae than Clayton)
(Don’t hate - it’s an unpopular opinion thread)
Not hating, but the “she’s now bi” is kind of, well, incorrect and a bit offensive. She didn’t just decide to be bi— She has been bi. She just decided to share it with us. 💜
Yeah publicly bi is more factual
This is not an unpopular opinion, but a sighting. Y’all can delete it if you want!
Visiting my parents at home (in Orange County) and was in north oc to visit a friend. Wanted to buy some of this Indian ketchup to take back home (Maggi hot and sweet sauce, buy it your life will change) so I headed to a small market that caters to Middle Eastern/South Asian customers…ran into Zach! Wasn’t sure it was him at first, but then he asked me how to pick good Okra (I have no idea why he asked lil ol gay me double fisting Indian sauces over the probably vastly more qualified other people *actually* buying okra) and his voice confirmed it.
He is **very** cute in person.
Zach as in Kronks nephew? There are too many Za(c)(k)(h)s in this franchise 😂
Yes, current season Zach sorry!
This is actually my first season watching the Bachelorette (or Bachelor) so I wasn’t familiar with the multiverses of Zachness. I’m more of a Bachelor in Paradise kind of gay, because *I love mess*.
Ah! I love EVERYTHING about this! 😂🥰
I’ll preface by saying that I went through an extremely similar situation to Erich (dad sick with rare aggressive terminal cancer, long stay that in ICU that he barely survived, getting really close with ICU staff, all during what would’ve otherwise been a very joyful/exciting part of my life as I got married, my dad dying soon thereafter). As I watched their hometown, all I could think about is how Erich abandoned his family in their darkest hour to go on a TV show to maybe?? find love. What his mom went through during that ICU stay and caring for his father after wasn’t just hard, it was hell. All I could think is that if I were Gabby, I wouldn’t be impressed by his “sacrifice” — it would make me question how he values loyalty and commitment to family. And honestly, I sort of feel like his mom was having similar feelings. Maybe I’m projecting based on my own experience and I certainly sympathize with his loss and all his family has gone through, it was just incredibly hard to watch as someone who went through something very similar.
I think he was told he had one year left to live and then he went on to live 3 more years… at some point Erich needs to live his life too, instead of holding his breath, and shouldn’t feel guilty about it. I think you are projecting.
As a parent I can tell you that if I was sick for a long time- like over a year- I would very much want my kids to live their lives. My kids have no responsibility to me. I chose to have them. I wouldn’t want them to be sitting around waiting for me to die while their life is passing them by.
You said you chose to have your kids, and they have no responsibility to you in return …your obvious emotional intelligence and genuine love for them just blew my mind. I wish there were more parents like you in the world. And I’d be willing to bet your kids remain close to you in part because of the rare, respectful way you view life and their presence in yours.
This is really kind thing to say, and you didn’t have to do it. So thank you very much for making my day! Parenting is an exercise in guilt, and constant second-guessing… so it was nice to read your words today!
Erich's mom and grandma encouraged him to go on the show -- I'm guessing that he and Gabby talked about all of that on their 1 on 1 that we never got to see
I see what you're saying, but what you might not realize is that his dad was sick for *years* and Erich said he was supposed to die "like three times". Expecting him to put his life on hold for years isn't fair and I'm sure his dad wouldn't have wanted that either.
Doesn’t he live out west though? It’s not like he would’ve been there caring for his dad.
I don't get the Tino hate. I don't stan him but he seems fine by me and who I'm hoping Rachel picks.
I don't want Tyler Caneron as bachelor. I like him just fine and I would still watch but my peak of liking Tyler was on Hannah's season because I liked him with her. I just don't have a high desire to watch him with other women.
Bananas are gross and not good enough to be asked every morning on my way to work at 7-Eleven if I would like to get 2 for a $1. Get a different fruit!
I think TPTB played up the worst part of Rachel's visit with Tino's Dad to set up a storyline with Rachel's tough Dad later down the road.
Your banana comment 💀
They're so gross 😭
Gabby’s kisses aren’t telegenic, but neither are Rachel’s and Tino’s kisses specifically.
I'm fine with all of them except Tino's lol it's something about how he moves his chin
I love this album, I was listening to sing child yesterday lol
Although I appreciate the positivity, we don’t need a Rachel appreciation post every week
Why didn’t I notice this until you pointed it out 😭😆
I’ve seen at least 3 or 4 this season like enough is enough
I swear every time she cries on a episode I just know we will get another appreciation post😭
I still don’t understand the Erich love and didn’t turn around to him on this date. I felt for him absolutely but I still don’t see his interest in her. These posts today comparing the two like Tino’s was a train wreck (it was) and his was some romantic love fest are misguided and I think we are just looking for SOME sense of a love story here
Maybe TPTB edited out some of their conversations to make them seem less connected than they are, so that we could be surprised at the end. I'm pretty sure they did that on Matt James' season with Rachael- they made it seem like everyone else had more of a chance
Idk, I feel like, if he really didn’t have interest in her, he wouldn’t have agreed to having the show invade his home where his ailing father is.
He would’ve found some dumb way to self-eliminate before hometowns. I saw genuine emotion in his eyes for the first time, when Gabby said she was falling for him too. But that’s just my perception.
Interest sure but you also have to do hometowns to stay on the show. It just seems like he likes her yea. But it isn’t this love story I feel like people are making it out to be.
You have to do HTD but you’re not obligated to involve your whole family including your (at the time terminally ill, now deceased) father. It was a meaningful decision he made. Gabby’s now step-mom wasn’t at her HTD and her dad stayed outside, because they were taking extra COVID precautions at the time.
All true. I guess it’s just I’m not invested in them like I have been in other couples. Maybe it’s just how he handles himself with her?
The episode revealed a lot we weren’t shown to fill in the gaps in the poor edit up until that point. It provided context as to how far developed their relationship had been leading up to the poignant HTD. There have been lots of comments from users breaking down specific scenes, conversations, and ITMs the past few days in light of the last episode. If you don’t see it, it may never click idk
ETA complete sentence
I kind of saw him blushing or being giddy when Gabby told him she was falling in love with him. He also sounded a bit choked up in his ITM when he was saying it. But I gotta say, I think I watched that moment maybe 3-4 times and I believe the romantic fairytale background music helped a lot in making people just have heart eyes for Gabby and Erich.
The music was A LOT. While I think that it was a sweet, heartfelt moment, I don’t think it would have been as moving [at least to me] without the fairytale music 😆
Yes I saw him smile at that etc but it still didn’t feel as moving to me as we’ve seen in other seasons. I’m still not really buying it. Could just be him and his personality but I guess what I don’t get more is how much people on here seem to be shipping them. Unpopular I get it
I get you. I watched the throwback video of the Katie and Greg one-on-one yesterday and it made me realize how I still haven’t seen anything like that so far this season. Maybe the feeling of being rushed is a factor (since the dates have less screentime due to the double lead setup).
Well I think if you didn’t see Erich’s interest in gabby on his hometown I don’t think you ever will because to me it was super apparent. I thought he looked SO thrilled when she said she was falling for him. I though their date was really sweet and I went into the episode preferring Jason for her…left thinking Erich is her guy
Huh pretty light UO thread this week, it’s both a good thing and a bad thing I guess 🤷🏽♀️
Honestly a bit surprised there weren’t more Tino defenders and Erich haters in this thread today 😂 not that I wanted that, but since the sub has been flooded with the opposite for each since Monday I just expected the fans/non fans to spam this thread today 🙈
All that goes in the spoilers thread 😵💫
I was bracing for a lot of Erich hate haha (and I’m glad it wasn’t too heavy here)
I don’t mind polls and I sometimes enjoy them. But I just scrolled through the sub and saw four polls in a row.
And they’re always the same question
I think Ive voted who I want as the next bachelor ten times already the past week
I like being unspoiled better than being spoiled.
Yeah I only allow myself to get spoiled when I'm over a season
The last fun spoiled season might’ve been Peter
Tino’s parents were a bit aggressive, but their questions were legit. I think it’s his fault for not adequately explaining the trajectory of the show.
I feel like they thought they would be getting married right away after the engagement. His mom said, she didn’t know if they’d be mending a broken heart or planning a wedding in 2 weeks lmfao.
Ma’am, bachelor engagements are just promises to keep dating exclusively in the real world. They might as well just call it promise rings tbh.
The stakes would still be high if it were just promise rings, but not as insane as engagement rings. + the men should also receive promise rings at the FRCs lol.
I believe Rachel decided against visiting Tylers family after she saw his “small business” at the carnival
Was it verified that she was forced by TPTB to take Tyler to hometowns??
Gabby and Spencer spent the same amount of time together as Rachel and Tyler. Gabby knew she didn’t have strong feelings for Spencer so she had only 3 hometowns.
Why didn’t Rachel insist on having only 3 hometowns as well? I bet production would’ve loved if she only had 3, then they would’ve been able to fit all 6 hometowns in this episode and they wouldnt have needed to fly the crew all the way to a 7th hometown 🙄 Tyler’s hometown took up far too much screen time when they could’ve just inserted Aven’s instead🙄
I think Rachel went ahead with 4 hometowns, the same way she wanted 3 roses more than Gabby during the separation rose ceremony back in LA.
She probably just wanted a fuller bachelorette experience and more screen time 😂 Rachel is going to be featured for about 15 minutes at the start of next episode for Aven’s hometown, while Gabby gets no extra airtime and then they move straight to MTA lol. It’s a smart move for more exposure.
I think she was never that into him and felt too guilty faking it with his family. Meeting the friends made it real that she was going to have to meet his parents and act like she loved him. He’s not her type, imo. The remaining 3 left are though, and Logan was.
What would you say her type is? The remaining 3 and Logan all seem very different haha
I think she likes tall, athletic guys with broad shoulders.
Tyler is too nice, that’s why he’s not her type. Zach is nice too and the only reason she’s ok with it is because of physical attraction. Logan was tall and kind of an ass hole. Tino has a nice face and is kind of an ass hole. And I’m not really sure about Aven yet, but he’s (to me) the most attractive guy on this season and would be anyone’s type. I married an ass hole. Rachel probably will too. I recognize one of my own 😂 My husband is an amazing spouse though and is incredibly loyal and protective of his family.
Haha, this sounds accurate! I’m an asshole and I’m pretty sure it’s the reason my boyfriend has stayed with me, so I get it lol
I think he made it pretty clear beforehand that his "small business" does pretty well. He bought him and his ex a house at age what? 24? And he only works in the summer and makes enough to support himself year round AND travel. Sounds amazing lol.
Wait, the carnival restaurant is his?! That’s pretty impressive for someone in their 20s tbh!
But I disagree, she is just so much more into Zach and Tino. I kind of judged her for ending it with Tyler, but once I saw her with Tino it made sense.
The basketball game, not the restaurant
That’s even cooler tbh!
Why would she judge him for the way he makes a living? If he's able to pay his own bills, I don't see why it would matter to her what exactly he owns on the boardwalk
I was assuming she did.. she’s a little shallow to me
She didn't give any indication that it was anything but liking the other 3 more for breaking up with him -- if anything is shallow here, it's your judgment of him. Dude seems to be doing just fine for himself, regardless of what you think of his small business 😂
Y'all don't have to have a debate on every unpopular opinion, there's a reason why it's an unpopular opinion
There's literally no need for name calling here 😂
I'm also not the original person you're responding to, so IDK why you're assuming I'm reading everything you're writing. You're suggesting that Rachel dumped Tyler because of his "small business" -- that's inherently judgmental of both Tyler's business, since putting it in air quotes suggests it deserves to be looked down on, and Rachel since you blatantly said you think she's shallow
Regardless, I'm making an effort to be more positive in the sub as a whole, and am going to leave the convo here. Hope you have a good night
I’m so sorry, what’s this comment implying?
I’m not being snarky btw, just wondering why his small business is in air quotes lmao
His description below his name was owner of small business, but it was a very small business in a stall so I thought she judged him on that when she saw it.. it was then that she decided not to go to his family. I prefer him or aven over tino
So your problem is that his small business is small?
He owns several of these booths with his brother, not just one. And he says it affords him the ability to travel all over.
Tyler and Rachel’s breakup wasn’t heartbreaking. It was cringey that he couldn’t pick up on how uncomfortable she was, especially since she’s someone he’s sooo in love with, someone who’s his reason to keep believing in love 🙄 it was so OTT, I thought it was fake and he absolutely should not be bachelor.
He could get a cute love storyline on BIP though 😊
He just kept talking! It was painful. I felt like he was trying to nail talking points (and I say that as someone who really likes Tyler)
He had a script to get through, it was so fake
I feel like the men feeling “not ready” for an engagement makes sense because the first 3/4 episodes consisted of them having to split their affections between gabby and Rachel to see who they felt a stronger connection with. They’ve had less time than previous contestants to get to know their leads (due to not choosing which lead to pursue till a couple of episodes in) and that’s also not including cancelled dates and cocktail parties
I agree with this and I also think Gabby is attracted to / attracting older and/or more mature men, who are probably less likely to get swept up in the fairytale. I see it as a good thing. Even with the way Gabby spoke about it with the men's families it seems like she's more open minded about the ending too.
Yeah i agree cause usually all top 4 are head over heels ready for marriage but Gabby is taking the process seriously and doesn’t wanna get wrapped up in the bubble love so she has a realistic perception of all the outcomes
I kind of like Nick’s tattoos
Just like someone said below, I respect your bravery too. But your use of "kind of" makes me think you might still be on the fence about this? Lol
Much respect for your bravery
I like Nick
Hello fellow agent of chaos 🤝
This is the most unpopular opinion ITT today!
I’m torn bc Rachel and Tino’s answers to his dad were verrrrrry basic and surface level proving his dad right. Like, truly I don’t see the connection after 6 weeks but damn his dad is still a dick so I hate that he’s right lol
I agree. I think Tino’s parents are a bit patronizing, but I do think their questions are warranted/valid. They could have been much more polite about it though.
i think HG and dylan are so funny, their tiktoks together and her insta stories of them rn are so funny. they really chopped their personalities/ relationship from the show lol
I remember a while ago Dylan got a lot of flak from people on this sub but it seems he has really grown on people! I'm a fan of Dylan and HG.
the daily spoiler thread is out of control. too many people stanning mediocre, d list reality show contestants they know nothing about and getting truly personally offended about it. get some taste and stan joe jonas instead!!!
thoughts on the Xeomin ad?!
Really fucking bizarre, like what is that? What are yours?!
It's uncomfy and bizarre! He's only 33, how bad is he hurting for money?!
I went in there once and was like 😬 ok that’s enough. There was a whole long discussion about trying to track safe house visits via producer reviews of Airbnbs posted on the site but “do they post a review from EVERY visit?” “What if they don’t so we have holes in tracking the couples’ whereabouts??” So freakin weird
It’s literally never been bad before and now it’s a war zone, idgi
I absolutely don't want to be spoiled for once but I'm DYING to read the spoiler threads because they sound wild. I keep reading it's less spoilers and more stanning and I don't even know who on this season is stan worthy 😂
It is unreadable. I scrolling through to get the highlights and even that is a headache. People throwing shade at the various Stan groups, people wanting everyone to get along. People deciding that their own ship is the winning pairing because of arbitrary reasons.
Maybe gently open one with one eye closed and Bookmark it and read after? 🤣
Eh, I don’t think you’re missing too much joy in life by skipping them!
I accidentally got spoiled so I now enter those threads. I don’t see as much drama as people claim. Just people saying the same opinions over and over
Literally no one
I feel like Cary did a better job styling Gaby and Rachel than most other seasons (I’ve liked most of the outfits once they got to Europe). The fashion on Katie, Becca and HB’s season were the worst and nothing could top that imo.
I thought he did a really good job with Michelle, too!
Hannah B had some horrible looks. The Viking date outfit, and her fantasy suite date outfit with Luke P were awful. And I don’t think she’d have dressed like that irl. For Becca they got to costume-y. Like let’s put her in a safari outfit for this date or make her look like a rockstar for this one…very cheesy and resulted in some unflattering looks.
Johnny might have expressed insecurities on the show, but I have a strong feeling he's gotten plenty of women.
Absolutely. His response to Whip Lady’s question 💀
Now THAT was a hoot 😆
nates tiktoks make me wanna vomit
That's a very popular opinion, we all saw the thread
This shouldn't be unpopular. They are next level cringe.
... well these are certainly all words
Not at all sure what you mean by "this sub talks about POC like gods" and where exactly you pulled THAT out
“if a woman doesn’t find a man attractive on the show, it’s body shaming too” what???
I genuinely tried with this comment, and I just can't 😂
The use of the cruise ship wasn't well done as an advertising opportunity. They could have had more dates or activities shown taking place on the ship
Yeah they are limited by screen time but it could have easily been packaged as web content.
Yeah and the location they chose for the rose ceremony was not appealing at all.
It feels like they fulfilled their obligation and moved on
I was also tired of them using the same shot of the exterior of the boat with the lifeboats hanging off. I feel like they could have had more stunning shots of the ship in the ocean. But what do I know, I have zero artistic talent.
Ok last one, I swear. I was low key hoping natalie would ditch nick at the wedding for someone more famous. I know. I'm terrible.😂
I wouldn’t rule this out if she had the opportunity. I kinda said forever I bet she DM’d a ton of d list celebrities, he was just the first who responded. Would not be at all surprised if she tried the more age appropriate Pilot Pete first.
Right?! It would just confirm what we already knew.😂
Yeah I’m sorry I just do NOT buy that the first person whose DMs she slid into was a 40 year old ex bachelor turned podcaster.
ETA: I could also see her thinking she had a chance with Pilot Pete since he was in love with Madison whom she knew or went to school with so he may have felt more attainable in some sense. Plus Nick seems to have a weird hate toward Madi. But that’s total conjecture on my part.
I like your theory.
Rita doing commercials for dildos and vibrators is mad sexy. Just kidding it’s revolting.
Who is Rita?
I could’ve gone my whole life without picturing this
He reads the commercials in his voice on his pod
The users adamantly defending Tino are reminiscent of the Grippo Girlies… unfortunately, the Grippo Girlie Gang and the discourse surrounding Greg was far more entertaining lol
Everytime I see someone with the Grippo Girl flair I’m like… did you not watch the same season I did? Lol
At least we don’t have to deal with a full day of mass spamming from users calling themselves Tino’s Twats or something
OMG I'm never forgetting this one 💀
I can’t stop laughing. Help. 🤣🤣🤣
TINO’S TWATS !!!!!! Lmaoooo, nauurrrr I love you for this 😭💀
Kaitlyn and Nick need to stop screwing around and be with each other. Together they will have unyielding power over bachelor nation and banish those who oppose them to a lifetime of low engagement and declining followers
I’m so sick of the Madi apologist getting upset that every thread on her is full of snark and criticism. It’s not because we love to pile on, it’s because there’s many valid reasons for disliking Madi (Racist white savior trips to Africa and exploiting the kids she’s supposed to be helping, how she continues to preach purity culture myths about how choosing celibacy till marriage means your standards are higher than those who choose to have sex, the homophobia, and her general tone deaf nature).
i mean its absolutely exhausting and boring to see the exact same points ppl have been making for over a year about her on threads that have literally nothing to do with it.
disliking a person for valid reasons doesn't mean you can't pile onto them and it doesn't mean doing so is righteous.
exactly!! and why are we forbidden from discussing her when Amazon is blasting an engagement video of her and the realist G on all of our home pages 💀 she’s about to be a billionaire, I promise they’ll survive very real criticisms of their rampant AAVE & other white savior shit. “I knew shawty was the one when I heard she drives around listening to Drake too”
Can you expand on her homophobia?
Purity culture can kiss my non Virgin ass. That shit did so much damage to me growing up
When there are only 80 new comments every time I refresh this thread I’m very disappointed. Work harder guys
I'm doing my best!! I added 3 new opinions in the last hour!!😢
Tino's dad was right about Rachel not knowing his son. She just answered with non-specific platitudes.
He's The One because he donated blood lol
I feel like this is just fact
Her answer could’ve been copy and pasted to any other guy. Totally agreee- very generic. But she prob panicked
Totally agree. But it is sad that she doesn't ha e anything more personal to say about him right off the cuff. Maybe she does know more about him and was just unprepared or flustered
Well her real answer would’ve been we like making out lol. To be fair, I’d have been caught off-guard if someone asked me that question when I first started dating my husband. It did expose how little time together they’ve had though. You can’t really get to know someone that fast.
i had secondhand embarrassment watching her answer that question
Got one more. I wish sub members would fact check claims about Chris soules accident. I've seen so many faulty claims about it. It is really harmful to be spreading these.
Yeah I actually looked it up recently because in my head his actions were much worse than what it sounds like the court decided.
I fact checked someone on this the other day and totally agree
Oh I remember. I was getting so heated over the false info being spread, your comment was a breath of fresh air.👏
Pretty sure those rumors spread partly because there was another rumor that Chris likes his alcohol…I don’t know if that’s true or just a rumor. I used to live in the country and so many people would go into town and then drive home drunk…Very common. So, I can understand people making the assumption, but it is unfair and there’s no evidence. I didn’t know people were still talking about it :/
It gets brought up anytime he gets posted on this sub
People really need to get over it 😂
I agree. I would also argue that i wish members would fact check alot of comments and posts caus i see misinformation and just incorrect comments alot.
wasn’t he driving drunk or something?
edit: not y’all downvoting me when i was just asking a question
I gave u an upvote for a genuine question.😂
thank u lol😫people really do be downvoting me tho😭
It was initially called in as a DUI but blood alcohol tests were zero. The farmer was driving at night with no lights on his tractor.
Omg this!! It really irks me the crazy class things people spread based on what they saw in the headlines. It was a totally tragic situation.
I agree with this. The situation was completely tragic but people act like Chris is a cold blooded murderer of the elderly
On the next season of the Bachelor, I want to see lots of posts criticizing the next Bachelor’s outfits. I love to snark as much as the next person but if we only pick apart the Bachelorette’s fashion it’s sexist AF.
I’m reliably and tremendously critical of all leads’ styling irrespective of my thoughts about their personal attractiveness and will continue to complain bitterly until the overwhelmingly sorrowful blandness has been driven out of the franchise. (But I’m just an old Gen Xer who yearns for the gutter punk and grunge days of yore.)
A lot of people made fun of Cassie’s bachelor when he wore those sleeveless hoodies on the beach everyday of paradise