By - jfizz08
I believe him to an extent. I don’t trust mtv, I don’t trust amber after all the abuse she’s done losing custody of not one but both kids. What a perfect story line for her to paint Andrew in a bad light.
Well then, show the proof... we all know the whole house was under surveillance, so show the footage. Clear your name. Ezpz.
I’m not an Amber fan but this is ridiculous. If he has proof he didn’t do it then show it already. For the most part, we’ve seen Amber with clean houses. She is the biggest couch potato but she’s not a slob like she once was. Andrew clearly made that house a mess and blames Amber. However she hasn’t lived in that house for 3 years. It’s on Andrew and that poor kid lived like that. How Andrew got by without cps checks on that house is beyond me.
Because CPS doesn’t care if a house is dirty. If it’s functional, and the child is not being abused or neglected- they don’t care. As they shouldn’t, because literally kids are dying everyday here in the USA due to abuse and neglect!!! Everyday! A little mess didn’t kill anyone. The house was messy but not shocking, I’ve seen far worse. The child was fed, sheltered and safe from drug exposure and abuse. I’m not an Andrew fan but James is in the right place. Amber couldn’t take care of him, he’s now with his dad and grandma in LA. Best for the child. (Keyword with his GRANDMA and dad) Amber is an unwell drug addict, who is she to complain when she can’t take care of EITHER fucking child she brought into this world. Smh at moms like that- disgusting egg donors!
Its funny, we have the opposite experience with CPS. my stepdaughter is exposed to drugs, domestic violence, and severe mental health episodes at her mother's house, but because the house is clean, they think everything is on the up and up
Maybe y’all should gather evidence of this abuse and DV and take the bio mom to court for custody? You don’t HAVE to have CPS involved to take action. If I were y’all I would be documenting any and all evidence and then file an emergency petition for full custody. That’s very unfortunate, but not uncommon. CPS (the child welfare system in general) is extremely flawed- so yeah many people keep or get kids that should not have kids. It’s a damn shame. Sorry y’all are going through that. Hope you can get full custody of your step daughter!
My sister is like this and I have all of her 4 kids. She is a drug addict as well. They look at cleanliness to a certain point. I’ve dealt with them for years because of my sister. Luckily now, the kids are safe with me permantely. My sister got her kids taken away due to a lot of factors besides drugs and cleanliness was one of them. It just differs for each ease. I never said anything about how baby James wasn’t better off with his grandma and I think that’s for the best that he lives with a solid unit versus just Andrew. I just think Andrew purposely left the house that way in spite of Amber. But that kid was living there and it’s gross. It’s just my opinion.
If cleanliness becomes a health hazard then yes they will take it into account. However, if water and electricity work, food is in the home and no abuse or neglect can be seen, then they are not going to take action because it’s dirty. Your sister as a drug addict was an inherent danger to her kids simply because she used drugs and had drugs around them and whatever other reasons she was unfit to parent. I feel bad but I think it’s best you have custody obviously. I’m in recovery for years now and have children, it breaks my heart that not everyone can get clean before children, but I don’t think drug addicts should have custody ever. Andrew sucks too I think that’s a given, but to expect CPS to do anything about a messy house is pathetic once you realize 5 kids DIE a day in the USA- due to abuse and neglect. CPS already has their hands full and kids keep dying. The family court system is flawed and sorry but they just have bigger things to worry about- like people like amber having custody and hurting their kids.
Just wanted to pipe in and say how wildly inappropriate it was to take Leah to see that dump. What the hell!
It’s like Amber is going out of her way to make Leah feel unsafe.
when Gary looked at her and said you never lived like this. My heart hurt for her that he even felt he needed to remind her. that poor poor girl
Their house wasn't covered in urine, but one day she's bound to watch clips of the show and see herself in a crib with a bare mattress, diaper sagging to the floor. O my goodness and the old bath water that sat in the tub the entire time they were on vacation.
Lies. They're house was horrible in the first couple seasons.
That probably had a lot to do with them being young and poor. Once Gary moved out and got custody of Leah he really turned his life around.
Yeah and also really young... but they were pretty filthy back then... but this is a grown man we're talking about now not no 17 & 18 year old Gary and amber. 😂
Amber was 18 when Leah was born and Gary was just shy of 22. They were both "grown" in the eyes of the law, anyway.
ETA: To be clear, I'm not saying Andrew is right or 18/22 is the height of maturity, but I'm seeing a lot of "they were teenagers on Season 1!" comments, and it's easy to forget, especially when the show is named TEEN MOM, that not all of them were underage.
Also, I'd assume bc of the contentiousness of their custody battle, there were at least SOME home visits to BOTH parents' homes. Andrew strikes me as the type who is calculated enough to have kept things spotless (even if his rich mom hired a maid or something) for the entirety of the case and just as soon as he won, trashed the place. I may be giving him too much credit for his level of "evil genius" but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have some "proof", including a way to prove date/time, to make it seem like Crazy Amber trashed it herself somehow to blame him. (I won't lie though, when I first heard/saw everything, it crossed my mind first that somehow MTV did this to make Amber look better. 🤣🤣🤣)
Amber got played by a master manipulator. She walked right into it.
Sorry, but I don’t believe him. He could of taken pics or video at anytime while he was there and not rt b4 he left. I just don’t trust him
Unless he filmed the walk through showing the date somehow and then posted it, I don't believe him either, you could tell it was his clothes and shoes all around.
Just looking at the front of the place you can tell he didn’t care about taking care of it. I have 0 trouble believing Amber. And I agree, CPS should check into his California living arrangements.
Could you imagine being a neighbor? When she first bought that house I thought about how horrified I'd be to live in any neighborhood & have an MTV star move in. Yikes! They proved that fear as founded.
Not usually, no. It's typically the renters responsibility. You'll occasionally see an owner offer to pay for lawn-care, but not usually.
Only if it's included in a rental agreement and most houses for rent the tenet is responsible for lawn care. But that's a moot point anyways because I doubt he had a rental agreement with Amber. She owns the house they were living in and then a judge ordered her to leave and him to stay so no rental agreement was needed. But she also could have still paid for lawn services for the house even if she wasn't living there if she wanted to make sure it was getting done.
I know she’s on a show…but I wonder if she could afford it. She was paying the mortgage and her own rent and utilities.
Varies based on your lease agreement
She was co parenting and never saw the house or even the outside? Because she never went!
She had a restraining order and couldn’t interact with him.
And who’s fault was that? Oh that’s right hers bc she threatened him with a literal machete while he was holding their son lol smh all these amber excusers are insane to me
He’s a real manipulator, I have no doubt he left it like that and yes he’d probably have people that side with him. Somehow he’s got everything he wanted. No Amber fan, but he’s as manipulative as they come.
Lol he has nothing to be furious about other thrn being called out m the lawn and shit didn't get like thay over night in the pics it just looks like it's from not cleaning your house on the regular . Yes Andrew amber told the lawn to be overgrown the min you left gtfo of Here
I side with amber for once, this is fkn repulsive...
That’s so disgusting. Someone needs to do a wellness check on that child asap out in cali
If Andrew has proof, why doesn’t he show it….???
My exact thoughts!
He’s saving it for his Patreon
Eww! Does he really have a Patreon?!!?
Naaaah, at least I don’t think so. I was just jokin!
His proof could b from anytime while living there too
I believe Amber on this one. Mainly because I know in my gut that Gary wouldn't lie, especially about something like this.
Ehh…he did claim that Leah never lived like that, but we all saw season 1 didn’t we? They were total slobs with baby Leah
Season 1? Like when she was 17? Come on.
What teenager isn't messy? She also was battling a number of demons back then.
Yeah, I don’t judge her cleanliness based on her teen years. As an adult I never noticed any of her living spaces to be dirty. I’ve seen Maci’s clutter, but at Amber’s house I only saw houseplants, throw pillows, candles and weird puppets. She keeps things clean.
She's always had too many pets that aren't properly trained. I always thought her houses had to smell like urine. I've wondered how many spots are on her floors from pets alone.
Ehhh different opinions i guess. She wasn’t alone in that house.
You do realize that was like 13 years ago or something like that right?
Yes I can count, doesn’t change my opinion though
Then let’s see it. After this last thing with Amber and Ashley I’m over her and think she needs to get more help for her anger issues but I still think he left it like it was. Why would she trash her own 🏡
Yeah some rando came in and left her son’s clothes, peed and left what looked like diarrhea spray on the the walls! I’m with Amber on this one!
I wouldn’t put it past MTV to make it look the way it did. Just to make good old amber the continual victim as usual
Thank you! I cannot believe all the amber enablers on this page
It’s getting worse.
MTV wasn’t allowed access to Andrew or James hence why we never see photos of him anywhere. Plus come on what kind of person leaves their yard like that! I call bs! He absolutely lives like a slob and probably always has! That’s why he moved into mommy’s mansion where everyone cleans up after him.
I was thinking he probably had a maid or weekly house keeper and was used to being a slob
But Gary and Kristin would not lie like that and make their daughter lie either
They would if they are getting paid to. I think there were home visits with the custody battle and no guardian ad litem would let that happen. They would tell the truth.
They would have had to leave it for awhile, though. Andrew is no better than Amber. Since he has the footage, he can go ahead and release it. I know I always take photos and videos when I've moved out of rentals. He left a lot behind, which is also odd.
Lol who else would it be if no one else lived there
It would be hard to make the yard grow up that much without months having passed. The splatters on the kitchen wall also looks old and stuck on.
Yeah a lot of the stains on the walls look old, definitely not new 🤮