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Recent-Nobody-3002

Hell yeah it’s worth it, can’t put a price on protecting your online image


Budget-Ad4896

You also can't put a price on being the coolest larper 😎


Many_Afternoon5695

There less expensive American options. Can buy surplus, but I'd rather trust American, regardless the price tag, then some iffy ebay Chinese "kevlar"


CHEREMUSHKA

🤌🤌🥲😂😂😂😂


Mustang302_

I just wear a boonie hat because im poor


Budget-Ad4896

I feel that, I'm wearing a boonie rn too. But I do wanna upgrade to a ballistic helmet. Ik I want an ops core but I'm torn between peltors and amps


Mustang302_

Get one if you can afford it, i have no preference because all my money goes to cheap surplus and sometime expensive pieces of plastic


Redwolf_2020

Boonie gang poors/retro aesthetic users rise up


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Neither poor nor into a look, but I've worn/wear some iteration of uniformed boonie since 1992. Field boonies are a way of life. Fuck a patrol cap... edit: no shit, you show up with a PC for a boat op and you won't get made fun of...but you'll seriously be ignored and disregarded as some fkn POG. (Time to time you'll ferry non unit folk, be it crypto/comm operators or some zero for a dog/pony show...but still most guys have the self-awareness to borrow or buy one). Yes, bump helmets are SOP now, but they're akin to cruising in a ski boat and life-preservers...just make sure everyone has one handy...


Mustang302_

Speaking of expensive pieces of plastic, I just spent 130 on another bakelite 30 rounder


Dudelyllama

Rip your wallet


Mustang302_

I hate this hobby


Dudelyllama

Hate and love are both 4 letter words, if you feel me. I just spent 500 on a lower and some stuff when i really should've spent it on a plate carrier.


ImpactUsed9446

I have one too 😉


TanukiTuesday

When did those get so expensive? Damn I used to have so many I probably just threw my way 15 years ago or some shit I hated them ! They never set well in the wasr


Mustang302_

Bro threw away gold, I have a few i bought for 50 dollars that are my main ones, but recently I bought one for a wedding gift for my buddy and thats what I had to pay to get one.


FranschescaNicole1

The amps are so worth it.


Entire_Fly_153

I run the ops core with amps for SWAT. Super comfortable. Won’t be disappointed if you get it.


Pilgrimite

fwiw, amps. I’m still saving.


Skeeterindividual

Plebes, the real head covering is a ski mask that will make you overheat and passout


Own_Safety6890

Boonie bros.


wedgewood_perfectos

“Ways I sees it if I get domed I’ll have no brains to worry about it”


Mustang302_

Thats what im sayin


flashhercules

Surplus MSA/Sordin + CVC SOHAH. I wanna say I paid less than $300 for the whole setup. Edit- actually almost $400, including the Lemo to Nato adapter. Still not a bad deal for comms + active heading protection + ballistic helmet.


RedPandaActual

Are the sordins hard to get on the mounts?


LordNoodles1

As a man with wife’s accountancy on the home budget, aka poor, I bought one of those tanker helmets, CVC, and converted it with rails. It’s a bit big for me so whoops.


Mustang302_

Too busy buying combloc plastic to buy life saving gear


ShaneE11183386

It's worth is how much you are going to use it


sluffman

Yeah, if you plan on getting shot in the head it’s almost a must.


Lumpy-Sky

FAST SF from Rooftop Defense plus connectorized AMPs and the mounting kit from Gentex gets you to total of $2440 (Including tax). This is not a good deal.


Budget-Ad4896

Thank you


T4GRS

Helmet can be had for 1500 from rooftop defense. Headset (depending on model) can be had for 900-1200. Not sure how much the PTT is worth but I can’t imagine it fills the 1k gap


Budget-Ad4896

I debated getting the comtac 6s rather than the amps but I really like the mounting system for the amps but they're a good bit more expensive.


verifity4

I have the amp, but think about the PTT you will use. The conectorized costs a lot more and the cables are 100-350 dollars depending on the type. so if there is a fixed down-lead version of the one you need i do recommend getting that one. because you will probably save 300-400 dollars. and that is a lot for just the function of pulling the cable out of the headset. I need to get the AMP - INVISIO cable to work with my issued PTT and i love ops-core but 350 dollars is just a rip of for a cable. I get that the price is for patents and stuff but damn that is a lot.


Budget-Ad4896

Thanks for that bit of information, I didn't even think about that yet, thabk you. I was planning on using a silynx.


Uncivil__Rest

You can mount comtacs with those arms.. just get the axl adapter. I have comtac 5s mounted to my fast sf that way.


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Budget-Ad4896

Yeah, I looked into but most people say the amps are a lot more comfortable


labsupervisor

I have both and hands down amps are better


-Patrick-Roberts-

The amps are worth the spend over the comtacs


T4GRS

I prefer the amps and have used both


reflectiveread

Have a set of comtacs if you’re interested. I have both and prefer the comtacs, I think their comfort, sound reproduction and ecoutremonts are way more worth than amps


n_olanhas

I have the amps but I run them on the comtacs mounts. Those amps arms are wack.


scotsdail

I didn’t realize they were so cheap. I can’t believe people fuck around with $800 helmets when they can get an Ops Core for $1,500. I run cheap guns, but when the only thing that stands between my skull and a bullet is the helmet I’m not going to buy some cheap Made in China shit.


Budget-Ad4896

My thoughts exactly, even if it stops the bullet if my skull gets caved in due to deformation I'm dead. Might as well not wear a helmet at that point imo


scotsdail

Even if you don’t die that will really fuck up the part in your hair.


Friendly_Ad_401

what do you think of armor source?


Pho-fo-Sho

Armorsource makes helmets for Team Wendy and Safariland (Their Delta X), as well as being one of the new defense contractors for the US Army. Midwest Armor sells them.


CampingGeek21

Get the fixed single downlead AMPS and a cheaper highcut imo


Budget-Ad4896

The only reason I wanted the Connectorized is incase the lead breaks but I also prepare often for things unlikely to happen so I might just get the fixed single and the opscore le. Someone here also recommend avon so I might check into their helmets and testing


CampingGeek21

Fixed downloads have been around for 20+ years in comtacs and such. As far as I know it's never been an issue. I wouldn't worry.


Budget-Ad4896

That helps to know, I just overthink things too much. Thank you


ShadyShields

Can you justify needing to spend 3.6k on a helmet setup for your use? If you do.. then go nuts.. If you want to save some money get a Opscore FAST MT instead, less protection but its half the price.


Budget-Ad4896

Thanks for the recommendation, I hadn't seen the price on the Mt yet


Reaper_Inferno

My cheap ass got a atomic defense helmet lol if you can afford it, you can afford it


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That’s a highly philosophical question.


Ashamed-Spirit5326

Both the AMPs and SF helmet are worth it. But doesn’t mean you can’t get better deals on both of them.


Friendzie

What's the price? I'm not seeing it.


Budget-Ad4896

It got lost in the comments, it's 3600 I found out its a bad price


Friendzie

If you're on a budget, I recommend an M8 ACH. They're like 100-200 bucks depending on if you buy local or online and they're damn good helmets. They're not as Gucci as helmet listed above. But they get the job done and it's not a protec.


Budget-Ad4896

I'm looking for a high cut, I'm not on much of a budget. Just gotta save for a bit, I decided on a different ops core that's 1000, rather than this set up which was 3600. The one I'm looking at now will be 2400.


Friendzie

High cutting an M8 isn't that hard and can end up saving you hundreds of dollars. I did it to one of mine and it took me less than 2 hours and a few power tools. There are dozens of YouTube videos out there to help you.


Budget-Ad4896

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it


Driftmichael01

My nfmi amps are leagues ahead of anything else


Budget-Ad4896

The price is $3610, it comes with the helmet, amps, and a motarola apx ptt adapter


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keni804

2000 Ranger for $3000, has rust


kemsprite

Just weight reduction


keni804

Definitely needs it, runs rich af so i get bout 17mpg


kemsprite

I have a 17 Jetta that gets close to 40 and a 20 tundra that gets 14/15 so not too bad


Beretta92A1

2004 F250 for $2500 and nothing but rust


BakerOther3645

An Ops Core/Gentex U94 PTT(OEM for this headset) is $600 iirc for either the monaural mono model with single PTT radio support. I’d imagine a dual-PTT with one of the more exotic audio configurations would coat a lot more. Edit: single-radio monaural is $645, dual-radio binaural is $945. I looked it up to be more accurate since I bought mine two years ago


Budget-Ad4896

I think the dual is around 800-900


BakerOther3645

I grabbed the price off the Gentex website. Might be had for less, but I’m not gonna go digging


Budget-Ad4896

Not sure if I'm able to buy them separately for a better price. From what I've seen I don't think I can but figured I'd ask


maliciouswarrior

Hcc tac had the SF shipped for 1301 and I believe I picked up my amps from them for 900 (connectorized nfmi)?


TripleOyimmy

What’s the price?


Budget-Ad4896

$3600


weaponoutfitters

We've got the AMPs at a pretty aggressive price, looks like a price increase and MAP policy is coming down the line though


eryc333

Yes, I will only play cod in this


Delirium4

Depends on how good a shot the other gentleman is. There should be plenty of room for practicing ten paces, turn and draw in your moms basement.


talktomeg00se1986

JFC. You can get adequate stuff for WAYYYY cheaper. Just do peltors with AXL adapter for the AMP arms. I just set mine up and they create a way better seal than ARC adapters


Donny_Donowitz_

Paying bills is a chumps game. F**kin send it.


liners123

Forget the price. Think about the internet points!!


Budget-Ad4896

I'll be the coolest larper in town


mark3zuckerberg

But can you clean under your bed while wearing this ?


Budget-Ad4896

I live on the cement floor of my mother's basement, so no


sekfan1999

Do you have an APX?


Budget-Ad4896

I plan to get a xts 2500


sekfan1999

You’ll have to get a diff adapter as the APX and xts aren’t compatible


Budget-Ad4896

Yeah, I realized that. I ended up deciding on a different setup, different ptt and helmet, and going with the fixed lead amps rather than connectorized


marston82

Why not get a cheaper high cut ballistic helmet? They seem widely available for under 1k that does the same thing as the ops core sf.


Budget-Ad4896

I'm debating getting the ops core le instead, it's around 1k rather than 2, just know the sf is widely regarded as one of the best. But ops core in general is a great brand so I might go with the le


stewey88

Avon also makes great helmets that can be had for around $1k or less.


Budget-Ad4896

Just checked into. Thanks for the recommendation


xdJapoppin

Not for good ones.


GreatLakes248

Seriously, what are you guys doing in the civilian world to justify the price tag of a ballistic helmet w comms? I mean are you guys military contractors or something? I mean over $3k for equipment that you’ll never utilize to it’a full capabilities other than a good helmet for under $750 could provide- Wouldn’t that funding be better spent in NV/Thermal capabilities, nods, dual ir system?


T4GRS

Nobody needs a justification. If you don’t want it or can’t afford it then don’t buy it.


GreatLakes248

even if you CAN afford it- there’s just limited use to a civilian- unlike the difference between a Honda and. Lamborghini is wow and status: difference between this and 1k helmet- you look like the biggest DB up their w Andrew Tate innstagram commando


T4GRS

You’re up there with the nobody needs an AR-15 crew it seems. Interesting perspective, I just don’t agree


GreatLakes248

the difference to me is your utilizing the full potential of an ar15 in its capabilities, to me the equivalent is buying a Scar17H only with hand charging rather than semi auto bc your never utilizing the potiential of those comms that’s all


T4GRS

I think you lack some perspective on what some people do for fun in this free country. I know plenty of young people that own and use (to the fullest extent) guns, NVGs, armor and comms. There is no required justification. To say a $750 helmet is equal in capability to the ops core fast SF is objectively false. A ballistic helmet (like all other armor) is not needed until it is. And this guy who trained with high quality equipment with like minded people will reap the benefits. A real world use may never come, but he’ll be ready if it does.


xdJapoppin

You’re simply wrong. There are plenty of reasons one would want something like this, including but not limited to the fact that the world is slowly going to shit (particularly the western world) and that the potential for an armed civil conflict in the US is rising dramatically. Don’t forget the entire point of the 2A…


Budget-Ad4896

The difference is your brains getting splattered across the ground


GreatLakes248

furthermore let’s be clear op said “is this a good price/ can i buy it cheaper separately?” so to act as if price is irrelevant is bs


La_Quervo

Just cause OP can afford 3k+ doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to save some green if he wants to.


510CEKON

💯


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7Odin7

Obvious fed is obvious


Budget-Ad4896

I don't trust most cheaper helmets tbh, helmet deformation will kill you just as well as a bullet to the dome


SnooPineapples6111

He is kinda right tho. Over 3k for comms/ballistic headgear is a retarded way to spend you doe. Highly unlikely you’ll be worries about shrapnel or being hit directly in your noggin (it’d put you out the fight regardless) instead buy a really nice chest rig plate carrier setup, belt setup for medical and your sidearm or as other guy said get a nvg setup. Unless your loaded with money I’d pass on that edit: don’t ask opinions if you can’t take em


xdJapoppin

tell that to the guys in Ukraine rn, Russians and Ukrainians alike. Helmets are incredibly important in any sort of warfare scenario.


SnooPineapples6111

We’re not in Ukraine 💀


xdJapoppin

And? The point is it can happen anywhere. Not sure if you remember the George Floyd riots but many cities had entire precincts on fire with some spilling outside of major cities and into smaller ones (see Kenosha, WI). Shootings, looting, every major city was a disaster after 6PM for months straight. And, need I remind you of the entire point of the 2A and the individual right to keep and bear arms of both offense and defense? No matter which way you slice it the federal government is obtaining more and more power. It is becoming increasingly difficult to live your life without government interference. Political violence is increasing drastically and I don’t see it slowing down anytime soon. Now is the time to get this stuff, not later.


SnooPineapples6111

Not here to argue I simply gave my opinion in which the op was seeking but clearly has already convinced himself he NEEDS it. It’s funny people ask opinions on here about shit they already made their minds up on and get ass hurt when someone takes the time out of there day to help them😂 trash ass community. Akfiles gang


Budget-Ad4896

Fairly ignorant to assume, I actually did change my mind. I'm getting a bit cheaper of an ops core after reading some of the comments


SnooPineapples6111

Not you specifically.


Budget-Ad4896

My bad then


xdJapoppin

Perhaps you’re on the rooftop of your business attempting to prevent looters from ravaging it or burning it to the ground. Maybe they are angry and throwing things like bricks. Maybe the occasional gunshot rings out and it happens to be in your direction. This happened all across the US for months straight. Tear gas canisters were shot around everywhere. Rubber bullets, pepper balls, etc. Sounds like a pretty good use case for a ballistic helmet to me.


Often_Forgotten69

Pro-tip, if you're in the US during a riot, stay the fuck off the roof. The FBI will 100% have you on a drone or Cesena feed if you're up there


xdJapoppin

I am aware, good advice though.


Budget-Ad4896

I have a pretty good chest rig already, just slowing adding to the kit more and more as I get the money


CryeBaby127

No, just playing in the woods...


Present-Piglet9577

Dude look at his profile and other posts... This Clown is either a fed or is trying his fucking hardest to be raided by some tyrannical 3 lettered agency. Either way what a said state our nation is in.


BakerOther3645

Poorfag detected


Jager______

this is a fashion sub bro, what’re you doing here?


ItsLibertyOrNothin

Worth what price dipshit you didn’t show one


Budget-Ad4896

You didn't read clearly


HickoksTopGuy

Not the original commenter but your comment isn't top, I had to scroll a bit before I found it.


Budget-Ad4896

Yeah, wish I could pin it


cplsniper3531

Ops core is pretty upper in price not as good as Pelton but pretty close secound tho


2CatsAndAPack

Sure, if you’re realistically going to be using comms during whatever scenario you think you’ll need this.


Big-Catch-3104

Is there a video of this helmet being tested anywhere?


xxpertbread

Both good products. I use a team wendy bump and sordins on unity marks because I’m ballin on a budget :/


backcountry57

Thats nearly 4 times what I spent on my whole setup. If you can justify it sure but I wouldn't class it as needed


PatternConscious8658

No it’s not worth it but it’s your money to blow not ours


Mjolnir-IV

No


8bitinfinite

You could also save your neck muscles and start with a bump from opscore


Hami368

If it’s worth it to you. If your just trying to mount stuff for range use not really, but if you want solid ballistic protection send it


ArmyABRboy

Get a bump helmet by a good company unless you really want ballistic protection IMO. Lots of thing to take into consideration. What are you using it for primarily and secondary reasons, maybe using NVG during hunting. Etc etc.


RED_473

I don’t see a price but I’m sure it’s not cheap


Budget-Ad4896

$3600


RED_473

I mean hey if it works and you want it, and especially can afford it, then I’d say go for it. Although there’s probably cheaper alternatives (but that may mean quality goes down too so)


NotaNarcox

Get an old ACH get it high cut and bam. Cheap ops core helmet


perforatedspoon

My buddy in group runs these, he says he loves them and they shit on the comtacs for overall comfort.


MrOctober1080

You really get into call of duty?


TheFieldSpud

Yes


silvaliningplaymaker

Think about it this way OP, $300 for a nice bump to get shot in the face and not having to worry about it after or $3600 for this helmet to get shot in the face and then having to worry about exorbitant US Healthcare costs. I know which one I would choose 😎


Flashskar

I mean if your looking for something cheaper Avon F90s are on sale at RMA Armament and with the RMAPROTECTS code they're like $750. You could piece meal a headset and connector(Doesn't even have to be the same models.) for the ARC rails, then add up the total to see how much money you would save.


oskuuu

Like always it depends.


Jazzlike_Station845

Connectorized? Lol


Budget-Ad4896

It means you can connect the cable, it's not fixed to the earpro


Tricky-Cicada-9008

Everyone I've ever known who has used AMPs for duty use has not had positive things to say about them. Evidently they are VERY easy to break.


Baby_Ellis62

"Connectorized" is a word?


Protorin

Helmet and amps are good to go! Love mine.


RepentandRebuke

If you are just regular joe schmoe, absolutely not. Why do you have interest in that item?


Budget-Ad4896

Just want a top of the line helmet, from all the recommendations I might just get an opscore le or mt instead


thunder0811

Go with the Ops Core High Cut, the Amps fit under with no rub, its the set up i run


RepentandRebuke

Why do you have interest in that item?


EvilProstatectomy

Because it’s America and they can


Backwoods_Mantis

Why do you have interest in his interest?


RepentandRebuke

Because instead of spending 3k on larping, he could spend 3k on actual training.


Backwoods_Mantis

If I wanted sound logic and advise I wouldn't be on reddit. Begone sir


Budget-Ad4896

How would I train in my mom's basement. Does not compute


systaltic

No


Le_Dragon_Reborn

Just get a bump helmet dude. It can still hold everything you want, without the price tag or ballistic rating.


smokeydabaer

its not like helmet ballistic ratings are true anyways, evident from that amount of lvl 3 helmets being defeated by 9mm


Le_Dragon_Reborn

Yeah straight shots will penetrate depending on various factors. They are really only good for glancing shots.


LethalOptical

We really out here asking the dumbest questions huh