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[Spoiler][MID] Bloodthirsty Adversary

[Spoiler][MID] Bloodthirsty Adversary

Jake_Man_145

Standard burn is shaping up to be a sweet deck. We just need... more cheap burn spells outside of shock and play with fire. Hell even a lightning strike would be nice, but we do need more burn spells to get me excited about burn and pair this with Thermo Alchemist. In straight aggro this is lots of value. Body with haste is nice, combines nicely with the revealed dragon as aggressive card advantage creatures, scales up late game.


Base_Six

I'm wondering if there's alternately some Izzet or Rakdos shell that could work if the burn spells aren't coming. \[\[Hungry for More\]\] can do a half-decent lightning helix impression if you squint really hard at it. Izzet would likely need something to replace \[\[Sprite Dragon\]\] or \[\[Stormwing Entity\]\] to come together as an aggro spells deck.


Gaardean

Hmmm... Thermo Alchemist, Shambling Ghast, Deadly Dispute, Kalain, Reclusive Painter, Hungry for More, Play with Fire, Roil Eruption, [[Bergi, God of Storytelling]], [[Moonveil Regent]]. Some other options like Bloodthirsty Adversary here, [[Flame Channeler]], and Learn spells, but it sounds decent to me.


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[Moonveil Regent](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/9/f9fc55fd-161a-4d77-82f0-27075210e7e7.jpg?1630959214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Moonveil%20Regent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/149/moonveil-regent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f9fc55fd-161a-4d77-82f0-27075210e7e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Flame Channeler](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/e/be91fcba-4599-4ecb-824d-55112096c34a.jpg?1630693670)/[Embodiment of Flame](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/back/b/e/be91fcba-4599-4ecb-824d-55112096c34a.jpg?1630693670) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flame%20Channeler%20//%20Embodiment%20of%20Flame) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/141/flame-channeler-embodiment-of-flame?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be91fcba-4599-4ecb-824d-55112096c34a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


zampiron

Delver too


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[Hungry for More](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/e/ce09c0df-d022-4ebf-8f7f-8a913249e75f.jpg?1630968408) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hungry%20for%20More) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/226/hungry-for-more?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce09c0df-d022-4ebf-8f7f-8a913249e75f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sprite Dragon](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/8/281f6118-adb8-4a7d-9c77-5570f3399e6e.jpg?1591228274) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sprite%20Dragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/211/sprite-dragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/281f6118-adb8-4a7d-9c77-5570f3399e6e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stormwing Entity](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/5/0540ee72-6370-4f70-9526-6f441b3cac1e.jpg?1594735784) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stormwing%20Entity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/73/stormwing-entity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0540ee72-6370-4f70-9526-6f441b3cac1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Jake_Man_145

We could just end up having a BR Vampire Aggro deck with this, the 2/1 R Vampire and the lord plus Hungry for More. That sounds nice.


brainpower4

You mean like Delver of Secrets that just got spoiled?


Base_Six

Exactly like Delver. Izzet (or Jeskai with mini-helix?) spells is shaping up.


NepetaLast

[[Sacred Fire]] for a more literal lightning helix


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hektor_magee

A reprint of Bump is still possible right? Would be on-theme since the original was from this plane. While Bump already had flashback, this results in a much faster reuse.


PLOTUS1

There is also roil. Is shock future standard legal?


Base_Six

\[\[Play with Fire\]\] is a strictly better shock that's coming with Innistrad.


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aqua995

There is no Shock in Standard 2022.


Tasonir

[[frostbite]]? I mean, it isn't named shock, but it's shock (which sometimes does 3!).


Toybatsu

That can't hit players tho


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henrebotha

The new shock helix is another option.


Base_Six

On curve as a 2-drop, it's a 2/2 with haste, which isn't terribly exciting, but is something that RDW is usually fine playing. At 5, the ceiling on this is basically a 3/3 haste creature that draws a good card on ETB for 2 mana, which is an absurd rate. The rate is even better at 8 mana, of course, but it'll be a rare occasion that an aggro deck will be playing this at 8. Add what's likely a relevant creature type to all of that and I think this will shape out to be a standard staple for the next few years, probably in some sort of burn shell with \[\[Thermo-Alchemist\]\]. Flexible cards that can fill multiple roles and multiple spots on the curve almost always overperform, and I think this will be no exception. Red's looking spicy.


Deathmon44

“Draws a good card” feels like a backwards way to put it, but technically true. You get to re-cast the (burn/removal/draw) that you’ve already demonstrated this game. In decks with interest in casting the same spell multiple times (like Burn), this is giving anything in your yard Flasback for 2R. Getting to replay your removal spells to let your team attack (and get a 3/3 haste) is giving me big Bloodbraid Elf energy. Granted, this requires the work of casting good cards that cost 3 MV or less, but we’ve been living in Zoomer world for a while now so it’s not much to ask. It’s insane how well this card scales up in formats with larger card pools, as well. Super excited to play this


Drmite

It's feels like 'draws good cards' but obviously is useless without a graveyard, or if yours gets nuked by hate; but also doesn't draw you useless lands


Deathmon44

“Useless” is still a 1R 2/2 haste with 2R multi kicker for a bunch of counters on it, which is pretty sick *sometimes*


agtk

Seems really good in a UR-spells deck. Prismari Command can be cast itself by the vampire or you can use it to loot something into the graveyard for casting later. Also lets you fish stuff out that you might have dumped to \[\[Moonveil Regent\]\].


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Deathmon44

Doubtful that dragon sees play, but yeah this Red Adversary is super strong and super super flexible


Base_Six

I can't imagine the dragon *not* seeing play. It's basically experimental frenzy on a 4/4 flying body.


Deathmon44

It’s very much not Frenzy on a body


BuildBetterDungeons

Why not?


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clearly_not_an_alt

>. At 5, the ceiling on this is basically a 3/3 haste creature that draws a good card on ETB for 2 mana, which is an absurd rate. Draw a good card + a Black Lotus to cast it with.


tobiri0n

Glad to see red is finally getting some good cards after the last couple sets. 2/2 haster for 2 is always playable by itself in an aggro deck, but the potentially relevant creature type and the ability to cast it for 5 later in the game to get a 3/3 haster that gets you a 2 or 3 mana burn spell makes it actually good. I think this has a very good chance to see play. The question is just what burn spells you can fetch with this. A lot of spoilers from this set look like WotC is pushing a burn deck, we're just kinda missing the good burn spells to make that happen. \[\[Play with Fire\]\] is a better shock, but that's not good enough by itself. Roil Eruption is kinda meh for being sorcery speed. Will normal Shock be standard legal? Dragon's Approach is pretty bad, Heated Debate and Igneous Inspiration are both 3 damage for 3 mana and everything else can't go face. That's not enough to get a burn deck to work, so maybe it can't be mono red burn but maybe Izzet or Boros?


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Casualcitizen

Heated debate is 4 dmg but not to face.


LoudTool

This seems to have nice synergy with \[\[Inscription of Ruin\]\] since each card can target the other in the graveyard. A Rakdos treasure deck with Goldspan, some mill and one of those cards in hand and others in the graveyard could start off a nice chain similar to what the Lore Drakkis builds were doing.


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d-fakkr

This fit for either izzet decks and rdw. Early or late game this just works, depending on the match up.


TheCrypticSloth

That’s…not what I was expecting. At first I was like “3 man for the pseudo-kicker? Come on.” Then that ability had me floored. RDW lives and this is nice at both ends of the curve.


MKX_PlatinumRarity

Can anyone explain how this trigger works to me? High level judges especially valued. My interpretation atm is: You play it, ETB trigger goes on the stack with no mana being paid. Opponent gets to choose whether they want to remove it with the unpaid trigger on the stack, then you choose how much you want to pay, and the opp no longer has a window to respond, so it lets you pay 0 if it gets removed, or dump all your mana in safely if they choose not to respond. Is this accurate?


Iffy1986

Am I crazy for being skeptical that this card is even good. Most of the time it’s gonna be a 2/2 haste for 2. That’s not good enough. White has a 3/1 lifelinker and green has 3/3. Multi cast ability is 3 mana which is comparatively expensive. My biggest issue with the card is the other cards in the format that can take advantage of this flashback ability. Nothing is really gamebreaking. Nothing to give incremental advantage. Think about it this way. It is below average as a 2 drop. What 3 mana or below spell puts it in the power of goldspan dragon.


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Iffy1986

True you can only have 4 dragons. However, this card is not even close to the power level as dragon. 3 mana to multi cast most likely was nerfing the card do to goldspan dragon. For casting 5 mana. It’s an underwhelming ability for what you can do. It’s versatility is kinda negligible based on what red already has.


bomban

You get to play this as a 2 drop AND play it as a 5 drop when you don't have dragons. 2 power haste creatures are almost always good enough in mono red.


Iffy1986

Big mono red player. I can tell you, 2 mana 2/2 haste needs to have insane value. This doesn’t have it. The red 2 power over the last 3 years was robber of the rich. Robber gave my more value and less restrictions than this. Also robber had reach. Before that we 2017 we had [[Earthshaker Khenra]]. Which had a goblin shortcutter ability plus late game 4/4. This card doesn’t play like those cards do. In addition does not even generate the value.


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LoudTool

It synergizes with Goldspan Dragon nicely though since it can soak up that treasure mana and reanimate spells in your yard with them, which can then target your Dragon to make more free treasure mana.


Base_Six

Flexible cards almost always overperform. Bonecrusher Giant and Brazen Borrower were both two bad cards stapled together, and were some of the mostly widely played cards in standard for the past two years. Goldspan dragon is probably better as a 5-drop, but this card is a way better 2-drop. In terms of spells to go with this, paired with any murder-esque spell you've got a bigger, hasty, ravenous chupacabra for one more mana. Stick it in Izzet and you'll have your choice between draw spells like Expressive Iteration, burn spells for removal or reach, and some flexible pieces like Prismari Command. Lots of good, flexible options in the right deck.


Casualcitizen

Bonecrusher definitely was not two bad cards stapled together. I mean the stomp part is a bad overpriced shock on its own. But a 4 power creature with upside for 3 mana? Thats way above rate for red. Do a scryfall search on 4-powered creatures with CMC 3 in red to see how few there really are.


Base_Six

I think the bar is pretty high for a 3-CMC creature without haste, trample, or flying to be playable. It'd be fine in draft, but don't think Bonecrusher Giant would be standard playable at all without Stomp.


Teodorant1

Where have you seen the green adversary? I haven't seen it anywhere.


apsimmons

A Dark Dwellers that I can cast off Lurrus. Yes. RX Lurrus piles are pretty popular in Modern right now. Playing 1 or 2 or these as a late game finisher that isn't a dead draw early seems decent. 5 mana for a 3/3 haste from the GY that casts a K Command also from the GY sounds like a pretty good option to have.


Severe-Difficulty-29

If you can blink it you can activate the enters play ability multiple times.


flowtajit

I could see this as a card in pioneer, good late game finisher if you flood out and a fine early beater. Too slow for modern tho.


VargasFinio

With the reveal of the "Timely Reinforcements" card I think we will see Lightning Strike here or in Crimson Vow. We have an X spell that goes face, too so here's hoping.


moo_vagina

It is important to remember that you pay on ETB so you can pay six if you reanimate it to get two spells. or three for one which is more appealing actually.


fuggingolliwog

I love this. I can't wait to discard one or more [[Magma Opus]] to ramp into this and then get to play them for a huge discount.


names1

you may be upset when you try and play Magma Opus with this cards trigger (it's only for spells 3 or less)


fuggingolliwog

Damn, I missed that part. That makes this quite a bit less good, but still powerful.


ulshaski

MV 3 or less


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MyStolenCow

If it’s modern, I’d much rather play snapcaster. Has flash, plays at instant speed, is good when you have 3 or 4 mana, can recast cryptic or fof late game.


Rolopaolo17

Nah, this card is def better than snap - you could cast *two* spells off of this one, and it has haste!


MyStolenCow

Why not just goblin dark dweller? Doesn’t die to bolt and does nearly the same thing.


Rolopaolo17

Cuz this could cast 2 spells