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SoleildeLune

My MVP Is Danilo He's a hard worker leader on the pitch solid in defense And when Verratti was injured he went to secure the midfield Just a hard worker and flexible Without him and our starter injured we're fucked He's been the lynchpin holding us together Thank you black Saitama !


ancara_messi

Messi was ridiculously good. Would've had a hattrick and an assist but Lyon's goalkeeper was a god. Ridiculous saves one after the other


Bigthunder13

I’m a simple man. I see Messi in form I’m happy


Elitealice

Good to see messi in good form again


cristiano-potato

Flair doesn’t check out..


Elitealice

If you love the beautiful game you love messi. Flair always checks out


Pengydb0404

The free kick save by lopes was insane


mejhlijj

Mbappe needs to watch some MSN compilation.If Suarez could do it Mbappe certainly can


raddi_wale_chacha

Suarez > Mbappe Change my mind


Didier_Desvilles

Mbappe at 23 has more goals in the knock out stage of the Champions League than Suarez. Mbappe scored 4 goals against Barcelona, 3, against Real, 3 against Bayern, 3 against Juve, 3 against Dortmund, 1 against Liverpool, 1 against United. He is in the top 2 of goal scored, assists, chances created and dribbles completed in the Champion's League since 2017-2018. He is already at the level of peak Suarez (at Liverpool) and better than the Suarez of Barcelona ever was.


Rickcampbell98

"Better than suarez ever was at barca" tapped yute.


Didier_Desvilles

Yes, better, more complere, and more clutch than Suarez who went 17 games without scoring in the Champion's League for Barça. "Tapped yute" lol. Abruti


Rickcampbell98

Mbop is not better than prime suarez, especially when he refuses to pass the ball lol.


Rusiano

40 goals in a much tougher league, it’s no debate whose peak is better


Rickcampbell98

Doesn't need changing, anyone who doesn't agree with this is a tapped yute.


YooGeOh

I'm just imagining all the non brits reading your slang and wondering wtf a tapped yute is lol


milleniallaw

Yes, what is that?


YooGeOh

A young man who is not quite right in the head


whatsleftofthenames

I would say he has a higher ceiling than suarez but, given that he relies so much on his pace, I dont know if he will have the relative longevity that suarez had. He does have the sense for goal though, So hard to judge at this point in time.


raddi_wale_chacha

It might be my Barca bias but Suarez was a team player and he lived and died for the game. You would see him giving his 100% every time on the field. Mbappe might go on to become a bigger name than him and might have more individual awards than him. But the character Suarez showed on pitch, the emotions he made the fans feel, I don’t think Mbappe can.


whatsleftofthenames

I think I will always place suarez ahead of mbappe, but mbappe is still very young, so he might change for the better. He is still making stupid mistakes, but those are fixable.


dobby-thefreeelf

No, I won't


srjnp

lopes and thiado mendez had an insane game at the back for lyon. mbappe was off today. messi very good, could've had a couple more goals.


Trickybuz93

Imagine how much better PSG could be if Mbappe want a selfish turtle.


Usingabrainunlikeyou

Mbappe sensational dribbling in the 1st half, was a good half from him. 2nd half he was really poor. Neymar should have been off in the 60th min, he looked injured to me. Mendes and Lopes put Motm performances and Messi was the best for PSG when he had the ball.


khronokhris2222

Another game. Without even making it offf the bench! Let’s goooo Etikite!!!


dantes_inferno101

Messi is most likely leaving next season and Mbappe might only stay for 1 more season(not counting the current one). Leaving Neymar who I would assume will stay in Paris


khronokhris2222

What’s that gotta do with this season? Lil bro


zaaaac93

He'll play a bit more after the international games but it was indeed a poor choice for him if he was looking for play time.


_jjjay

Sad to lose this one. Lopes had a really good match. That’s 3 in a row now. I doubt this will be the one to get him fired, but Bosz’s seat should be hot if it isn’t already.


Man_of_Marvels

He didn't force your board to sell Paqueta


prettyboyv

It is honestly insane watching a 35 year old Messi play with a team full of world class players while still looking miles above them in some aspects of the game. It looks like every pass that Messi plays is placed perfectly and every shot that he takes is always on goal. Like with Neymar and Mbappe you can see that they sometimes are trying to do too much, while Messi plays the game so simple, but yet so brilliant. This just honestly puts into perspective what kind of cheat code Messi really was when he had his pace and was able to run through 2/3 defenders on a consistent basis. One could make the argument that prime Messi was the best dribbler, scorer and playmaker in history at the same time. Simply amazing.


Frenkiestain

Wrong. Messi fans are like Federer fans. They keep moving goalposts. CR7naldo is better at the most important thing in football: scoring goals and showing abs. You can dribble past 11 players for all I care, but still choke in crucial moments, which is the only thing that Lyonel Missing has done consistently.


tragick693

Ah yes, Cristiano is a better goalscorer, which is why he has a worse goals p90 ratio than Messi


Frenkiestain

Nobody cares about these meaningless per minute/per breath/per heartbeat stats. Plus CR7naldo is the better leader. He led his team to Threepeat with flailing his arms and throwing tantrums clearly boosting their morale.


Didier_Desvilles

It's a weird kind of sarcasm because you are roasting both players at the same time. But it's funny haha.


tragick693

Well, it appears I have been bamboozled.


dobby-thefreeelf

>at the same time. Prime dribbler Messi 2008-09 Prime scorer Messi 2011-13 Prime playmaker Messi 2019 He's been too consistent for me to choose 1 prime year in any category, but these years stand out.


jggomes14

Prime Messi is the 14/15 season one, amazing at everything


Lost-Password01

2018/19 better imo Goals 18/19: 79 mins per goal 14/15: 87 mins per goal G+A 18/19: 57 mins per g/a 14/15: 60 mins per g/a Big Chances Created 18/19: 1.09 per 90 14/15: .89 per 90 Throughballs 18/19: 0.99 per 90 14/15: 0.89 per 90 Chances created 18/19: 3.40 per 90 14/15: 2.50 per 90


jggomes14

18/19 he was the main focus of that team without others to help him, in 14/15 was peak MSN season, the fact that he's close in all categories just helps him in it


Strananach

>Prime dribbler Messi 2008-09 Disagree Cuple of years after he was a much more efficient dribbler, around 2015 he went on more solo runs and ever since to this day he has been improving in dribbling in tight spaces If I had to make any years stand out it would have been 2012, 2015 and 2019


L_sigh_kangeroo

This is correct


Rickcampbell98

14/15 they all coalesced.


whatsleftofthenames

I mean he is, bar none, the greatest offensive threat in the history of football due to being the unanimous greatest dribbler of all time, maybe at worst the 2nd greatest scorer of all time and arguably, at worst top 3 greatest playmaker of all time (ill put only prime xavi and iniesta ahead of him, but you may disagree with other names).


ZZ3peat

Not unanimous dribbler I’d recommend watching some Maradona matches against butchers


MasterBeeble

It's easier to dribble through butchers; just riskier. The big thing about dribbling is getting them to commit a leg in, which isn't something Maradona really had to worry about because the defenders in his day simply obliged him. Once the defender sticks out their tackle and misses, they're done and you're through. Messi's dribbling is on another level because he baits much more disciplined defenders by steering the ball so close to them that they can't help but challenge, and then outclasses their reflexes + judgement with his own, enabled by his unholy close control at pace. To my eyes, what Messi has consistently done against even world class defenders in the dribbling department is much more impressive than any footage I've seen of Maradona.


t_mac1

I don't think it's an argument my friend. Prime messi IS the best dribbler, scorer, playmaker of all time. Hence he's the GOAT.


Lost-Password01

Funny thing is 35 year old Messi is still the best dribbler. He has 34 dribbles completed (4.32 per 90) which is the most in Europe so far.


L_sigh_kangeroo

He’s maybe the most efficient but i dont think he’s the best out and out dribbler any more. Neymar is the best


Superb-Barracuda-924

Above everything is his IQ, till about 2019 I can't remember an instance where he made a wrong decision in the last third, he always knew exactly when to pass, dribble or shoot which is insane when you see amazing players like Neymar, Mbappe, etc also struggling with it Messi has started making a few decision errors since 2020 but still they are very rare, he never tried to overdo things, his football IQ is what truly makes him so amazing


[deleted]

His game ages very well, he doesn't spend a lot of time sprinting around trying to find pockets of space. I could definitely see him performing this well for a couple more years.


prettyboyv

Yeah, honestly he "regressed" from being the GOAT to being the best playmaker in the world, who can still score If you give him even an inch of free space. He does not track back and he lost a lot of pace, but still having Messi on your team is very valuable to say the least.


Separate-Hippo6552

On the ball he is probably faster than a lot of players in their mid 20s. I think ronaldo regressed more than Messi in pace, but he is 2 years older


whatsleftofthenames

messi was more about acceleration than sheer pace. So his dribbling hasnt regressed that much compared to his "ill dribble past your whole team" pace.


19Alexastias

It was his acceleration combined with his touch. He could go from 0 to full speed almost instantly but the ball would never be more than a foot away from him. So he could burn past one defender but still have full control to go around a second defender right behind them.


whatsleftofthenames

he could go 0 to top speed to 0 in a second. It still baffles me that this guy exist.


19Alexastias

The surprising thing is not that he could do that, it’s that he could do that for so long and still be playing top flight professionally with fully functioning knees and ankles after nearly 20 years.


Alive-Ad-4164

Neymar been the best player this season for psg


MasterBeeble

Neymar is usually PSG's best player until he misses half the season.


Lost-Password01

Messi in 2022/23: 14 G+A in 11 games 3rd after Neymar (19 G+A) and Haaland (15) Messi in 2022: 37 G+A in 33 games Not bad for a “finished player”


yunghxst

Crazy how people think Messi is still not the best if not one of


kencaps

It's a rivalry thing, if you think about it without biases, you'll definitely say he's one of, if not the best right now, but fans of opposing/rival teams or fans of players compared to him will never admit that. That's just how it is when it comes to team/player rivalries.


PensiveinNJ

Mbappe puts in another disasterclass. L'Équipe to award him 8/10.


Superb-Barracuda-924

Lopes was insane, so was Lyon's Mendes, Mbappe has something troubling him, he is a bit selfish but not to this extent, maybe he is just off form or the football isn't coming naturally to him atm, he seems to try and force a lot of things which simply aren't necessary and fails at things which he did easily last season, maybe the international break can change that


Salmuth

Anyone else impressed with Danilo tonight? MotM IMO.


Man_of_Marvels

When Tuchel began playing him at CB and Marquinhos at CDM r/PSG had a meltdown. Now both positions look like each's best respectively.


DKofFical

Tbf that might be because of our switch to a 3 at the back system this season. Nothing to take away from Danilo who has been very solid this season. We should definitely keep starting him when everyone is fit (maybe at the expense of Ramos)


[deleted]

Arguably PSG's best defender this season. Rarely a mistake in him, which is crazily impressive considering how prone to blunders the people around him are. And he's deceptively quick. That sprint in the middle of the pitch when he hugged down one of Lyon's players to stop a counter was pretty great.


Jahthegreat7

He did all of that without fouling the dude either. That was huge.


Its_MichaelB

Not MOTM but a really good performance


dantes_inferno101

That hold he did. Stoped a big chance. Messi def deserved the man of the match tho


Albiceleste_D10S

Lyon could have had 1-2 while PSG really could/should have had another 3-4 at least. Lopes with 2 brilliant saves from Messi. Neymar mishit a tap-in at Lopes, and Mbappe had LOADS of chances that he wasted with bad decision making (and great play from Thiago Mendes)


Superb-Barracuda-924

Are Haaland's goalscoring numbers getting into Mbappe's head? He wasn't even remotely as selfish last season and atleast passed sideways when option was available, this season he has been painfully selfish straight and simple, I don't even think the French and PSG fans will refute it


Minute-Cash8119

Haaland’s playing in a different position, in another league and in another team. Why would he get into Kylian’s head. He’s played 9 games and has scored 10 goals, so how do you come up with this? And yes, he’s been selfish at times, but everyone here seems to pick one moment from every game and criticize. Vs Juventus, he scored a brace while everyone was just playing dumb and mentioning that time he should have passed to Neymar. 9 games with 10 goals scored is still great, but not his best start in terms of play no doubt


Frenkiestain

He's earning close to a million a week and you're here defending his ass like he's your mother. Pathetic plastic.


iwannahitthelotto

Lol. Of course mbappe has Haaland on his mind. He clearly stated how much individual achievements mean to him. He’s pretty much Ronaldo when it comes to ego. Unfortunately we won’t have the next Messi for a while.


Minute-Cash8119

True cause Haaland will win the golden boot in Ligue 1 and Mbappe is too focused on that. If they were in the same league, I’d get it but they’re hours away from each other.


Rickcampbell98

You do know the European golden Boot exists right? Mbop even mentioned it a few years ago when he was competing with messi lol.


t_mac1

It's not just about the stats, it's how he breaks potentials plays to try to shoot. People who just see stats think Mbappe has had a dominant start. But if you watch him like thonight, he was horrible. He needs to get his head together and integrate himself with others. Mbappe can be such a great playmaker as well. Playing with Neymar/Messi should make it much easier for him. If he doesn't change, he will be the reason, besides the defense, for PSG's demise in the CL


Minute-Cash8119

Don’t you think that it’s little early to talk about CL? Its just two games in with a world cup in the middle. I don’t like all this UCL thing cause it’s not that we have won it in the past. Sorry but you’ve mistaken me with post 2017 fans who believe every year is Champions League year. I tend to wait and see


Superb-Barracuda-924

My man, calm down, if it was one moment people would have forgotten it, it's more than a month since the season started and he has played the same majorly, has been about 5 games out of 12 at this point and he didn't play first 2, in this game alone he had 3 such instances, also against Juve Neymar was the one who gave the first assist to him


PensiveinNJ

This wasn't even his most ridiculous game, all the way back in their draw against Monaco Mbappe put on one of the most selfish performances I've ever seen from a player. It was enough to make Ronaldo blush. Mbappe is just suffering from a severe case of protagonist syndrome right now.


Rickcampbell98

You the way he was moving against montpellier, that shit was disgraceful.


raddi_wale_chacha

Neymar’s and Messi’s numbers are getting to his head. Haaland is a far off tale


Aig1178

Yes, he's starting to get too selfish. But I'm not too worried about him, every time he gets a lot of criticism and he's not good he comes back stronger.


optimization_ml

Mbappe plays for himself. So selfish it’s unbelievable he was in the field for full time. They are not gonna win CL with this selfishness.


Magnu448

Mbappe is such a better passer and decision maker than what he’s shown this season. Competition with Messi and Neymar seems to have him regressing.


Salmuth

Last year the tactic was around him. This year they play a possession game where he cannot make the difference with his speed as much as last year. It seems the balance between him Messi and Neymar is still hard to find. Especially with Neymar, their position overlaps too much.


cristiano-potato

I don’t think it’s true that Mbappe can’t make the difference. He he played off Messi more he’d score more. He should learn from suarez when MSN was playing. He keeps getting the ball on the wing and trying to take on everyone. Pass it to Messi and make your run and he’ll dink it over the defense perfectly to your feet


Rickcampbell98

He clearly enjoys playing with messi because messi will feed him through balls galore and doesn't really care about being the main man at psg, neymar is a bit different because he was the man at psg and isn't prepared to give that up and honestly I think he's still just a better player than mbop.


YeimzHetfield

I know PSG won but Mbappe getting pocketed by Thiago Mendes is one of the last things anyone would have expected out of this game lol. Other than that, amazing game by Messi, could've had a hat-trick but Lopes pulled off two worldies.


Cowdude179

Mbappe FC


TimingEzaBitch

Very entertaining game. Could have been 1-1 or 0 - 4 for PSG.


Minute-Cash8119

Good game overall but we still need to finish out chances. Marquinhos was in his best form in the second half. The only thing I’m happy for Messi MOTM on our side while Lopes was MOTM overall


whatsleftofthenames

messi getting his shooting form back might be trouble for mpaypal.


Cerxa

with this result, PSG already have more points, 9, away at last seasons top 10 in 3 games, than they did in the entirety of last season, when they could only manage 7. of those 7 points, there was also only one win on their travels


Rickcampbell98

This confirms it was poch, his away record towards the end at spurs and with psg is proper shit.


Aig1178

Yes, but I don't understand how they got so few points last year since the reddit experts consider the Premier League to be a regional level league


RosaParkStoleMySeat

Because Poch is an incompetent coach who couldn’t make it work. PL is a overhyped league that relies on foreigners to make it interesting


Aig1178

We are agree


av1997f

Welp, ciao Bosz, you were the chosen one, enjoy your vacation


targert_mathos

Doubt he'll be let go after losing to PSG 0-1. I think it was apparent since day 1 he was not the chosen one and he's now on bought time. They gave him an extra chance just because of the UEL results last year but he's got to go. It's hard to believe after this much time in charge, the team still looks so disorganized and completely lacks cohesion. The goal scoring strategy seems to just be give it to Tete/Cherki and see if they can dribble past the entire defense or hope someone gets on the end of a Malo Gusto cross. That's it. Unfortunately, we'll probably have to wait until November to see him go.


Nut-King-Call

Considering the fact that Mbappé won't pass the ball even if held at gunpoint he should finish better his chances.


hgo0432

Mbappe was horrible


[deleted]

Long may it continue


Grooveh_Baby

Damn, Messi took 7 shots with 5 on target. Feel like it’s been forever since he’s had that sort of volume.


L34hhhh

He’s slowly coming back.


thalne

he's warming up


zzackfair

He was the only one who looked sharp today, Lyon mostly contained Neymar and Mbappe was awful. He might be one of the best players on the planet currently, but when you're holding on to a 1-goal margin and try to dribble past everyone again and again and failing, you need to use your teammates. Hope Galtier gives him a piece of his mind.


srjnp

thigo mendez had mbappe in his pocket today. incredible performance in defense.


finestwoodondeck

Mbappe was awful but you have to give credit to Thiago Mendes too. He single handedly pocketed Mbappe.


whatsleftofthenames

could have had a hattrick if the gk didnt channel his inner neuer


ideasrbproof

Their goalie pulled off 2 insane saves especially the one on the free kick was genuinely world-class.


dyingsong

Anyone got a clip?


ideasrbproof

https://dubz.co/v/fst63z


zephyrbolt_10

I'm afraid that Mbappe gonna have more haters than fans if he continues to play like this.


Aig1178

Don't worry about him, the mere fact that he plays for PSG means he has plenty of haters. Especially in France


zephyrbolt_10

In France too? Don't the French love him?


Aig1178

I would say that half of France loves him and half hates him. But beyond his character it's largely because he plays for PSG. So the fact that he's selfish only confirms the people who hate him because he plays for PSG. But the main reason is that he plays for PSG. But it's a very French tradition to have a love/hate relationship with our best players. Apart from Zidane and Platini. Henry, Ribéry, Benzema and many others knew this before Mbappé


SphinxIIIII

French hate PSG Mbappe plays for PSG


Julius416

PSG is the most popular club in France according to several polls...


SphinxIIIII

The thing with PSG is that you are either a fan or a hater, so yeah most fans but most haters too.


Akame_xo

Surely Mbappe should know he’d score more if he passed more… Don’t get why he just tried to force everything himself


whatsleftofthenames

mbappe was trying to prove that he is better than a 35 year old messi in dribbling.


Rickcampbell98

He failed.


IamYourHuckleBerry34

Shoutout to the referee honestly. Letting the game flow not giving yellow cards for every foul. Kinda refreshing to see a referee allowing bit more physicality.


schoolhater12

Lopez was on crack today. Both Mendes were great. Messi was incredible today. PSG is so reliant on Verrati and he is clearly their most important player


[deleted]

Lopes


SphinxIIIII

>Lopez 💀💀💀


Aig1178

Yeah all the parisians know that very well. He’s the most important player of the team since 5 years


dantes_inferno101

Today was a tough game reguardless of verratti. Danilo played well when he had to go to the midfield


anarkad

There should be atleast 3 more goals


JeromeWhatElse

Awful game by Mbappé tonight


gtzgoldcrgo

The turtle must pass


LeonTablet

Mbappe singlehandedly making Ligue 1 more competitive by refusing to pass the fucking ball


Lyonaire

Its not just refusing to pass. He often just mistimes them or cant execute the pass. But yeah hopefully he gets his shit together


t_mac1

Dude is a clown lol. He’s hurting psg so bad and no one will hold him accountable


Minute-Cash8119

He’s the number one reason we won the league last year. I get all personal hatred you have towards him but to say he’s hurting us it’s just dumb. Still our best player by far. He had one chance where he didn’t pass and you’re so quick to call him a clown😂😂


t_mac1

B/c Poch made him the central figure, and sacrificed Neymar/messi. Nobody is hating him. If you can't see that he's killing plays by taking unnecessary shots when there's a better pass, that's you. He's not your best player this year buddy. Its between neymar and Messi.


Minute-Cash8119

So Poch was the reason Neymar was injured 75% of the time last season and played awful almost every game he started except the last 10 L1 games? I know all the saltiness PSG brings as a club, cause I’m used to it and I understand all the hatred towards Mbappe after the past summer but I’ve seen him play almost every game ever since he joined us, He’s just gotten better and better. It’s not even a whole season buddy, let’s see after the world cup.


XaviWithAG

He 100% is not your best player this game (Messi was the best) and not this season (Neymar is better)


Aig1178

It's true but he's been the best player at the club for 3 years and by far. We're not all going to spit on him because he's had a poor start to the season (by his standards). To be honest I will never understand the hatred against a football player. Just like I never understood people who defended Messi or cr7 more than their own parents


jggomes14

> he's been the best player at the club for 3 years and by far. No he hasn't, Mbappé only started to perform on the Champions League last year, Neymar had to drag them to the knockouts in 20/21 and was the better player in 19/20, Mbappé was better last season and that's it.


Aig1178

Hahahahaha, the famous Brazilian with 0 objectivity coming to praise Neymar. Two years ago Mbappé scored a hat-trick against barca at the Camp Nou in the last 16 and a goal in the second leg, then scored a brace at the allianz Arena against Bayern in the quarter-finals. He was injured in the semi-final. Neymar has been absolutely invisible for the last 2 years at PSG (except against Bayern and Manchester in the return) and a big part of the Parisians wanted him to leave this summer. I'm very happy that he's making this great start to the season but you shouldn't rewrite history, he's been atrocious since the final 8 at PSG. He was useless for 2 years. Ask the Parisian fans and you will see their answer. Mbappé has been much better than him for 2 years that’s it


jggomes14

I'm not rewriting history here, maybe you're just hating too much on Neymar to see it. PSG needed a win against United to keep their chances to qualify for the knockouts, who put them through? Neymar They needed a point against Basaksehir to go through, Neymar pulls a hat trick Then he was injured for the 16 against Barcelona, congrats Mbappé for reappering after a no show over the whole group stage and on the final 8, great game by him, that I'll admit. Then, Bayern away, 2 assists to Kylian and Marquinhos at the Allianz Arena. After that, yes, Mbappé was amazing last season and pulled rabbits out of his hat to score against Real Madrid at the Parc and the oppening goal at the Bernabeu (that was assisted by Neymar as well, but it was Mbappé's doing)


Psych-Vader

I thought you said you didn't obsess over player's faults, yet here you are writing paragraphs about a player. The hypocrisy is unreal.


Aig1178

I don't do propaganda, I just say what Im think I'm not obsessed with it though, Neymar was bad for 2 years, that's a fact. Now I'm very happy with his start to the season, it stops there


XaviWithAG

I don't think it's hatred as much as criticism. Saying he should have been taken off for playing poor isn't hate. Though agreed that he was the best player in previous seasons.


Aig1178

I assure you that many people have Hate him. In France alone you can find a lot of people who hate him. Probably because he plays in Paris, but then they find a lot of faults in him constantly. And these are the same people who will praise Haaland (rightly) or any foreign player who could overshadow Mbappé


SphinxIIIII

>I will never understand the hatred against a football player You don't hate bad people just because they play football?


Aig1178

Hahaha, I must admit that once the match is over I don't think about the players anymore, except in very rare cases. I can rage against a player during a match but afterwards I won't obsess about that player and find all the faults in the world


SphinxIIIII

There's stuff that's unavoidable. That being said, Mbappe, at least as far as I know, hasn't really done anything special so I don't really hate him, simply dislike him.


Minute-Cash8119

Neymar has had an amazing start of the season and I can’t lie about that but the best player on the team is Kylian. He always starts his seasons slow to then get back to his best form. By end of WC he’ll be good to go.


Rickcampbell98

Neymar is your best player.


WittyReindeer

Best player at the club (highest paid player in the world too) only needs half a season to warm up and play well, sounds good!


Minute-Cash8119

You didn’t add anything new. You want me to feel bad over the fact that he’s the highest paid player in the world? 😂😂 I simply don’t care dude. He might as well make hundreds of millions a month, not a single penny comes in my pocket


BrainlessArch

Lopes was insane


ideasrbproof

Okay, wtf were those 2 saves from the Lyon goalkeeper Lopes from the last 2 Messi shots... That was insane stuff.


SphinxIIIII

Anthony is one of the best keepers in the world, people sleep on him


SkillsDepayNabils

no he is not


Voice_Of_Light

He is against us when he's not murdering Mbappé


WittyReindeer

Messi should have 6-7 more goals already this season at least, some insane saves and certain players refusing to pick him out so far


ideasrbproof

Yes plus his finishing hasn't been the best. Prime Messi would probably have had 8-9 more goals at this point of the season based on the chances he has received.


Strananach

>Yes plus his finishing hasn't been the best I mean he is still pretty much outperforming his xG lol


WaleedAbbasvD

He isn't though, at least not in the league. His xG is at 6, his actual output is at 4 goals.


cristiano-potato

Is he? Is there a place we can see his total xG


WaleedAbbasvD

He isn't, at least for the league. He's down by 2 goals.


MrFCCMan

That’s just Messi tbf


-Jfree-

it really bothers me that mbappe at his age doesnt track at all even in the last minute of stoppage time. he walks back after losing the ball in the 92nd minute in a 1:0 game. i just dont get it.


NotClayMerritt

There is no Mbappe/Haaland comparison for me. Pundits and FIFA YouTubers won’t talk about his bad habits. How did we go from Messi and Ronaldo’s killer mentality despite being the highest paid for over a decade to Mbappe who was clearly given too much too soon and has coasted on raw talent ever since. Not once improved his game. He’s capable of so much more. He just prefers not to.


-Jfree-

my theory is that winning the world cup already was a big factor in all of this.


Round_Headed_Gimp

Mbappe is the one player that always breaks on the counter You want him playing as high as possible Him tracking back doesn’t help with anything, especially in the 90th minute when most of your team is sitting back anyways


leirbag_yballul

He is a spoiled superstar


FullMetalJ

weird way to write 'twat'


-Jfree-

i know but even those tend to track a little bit at the end. even messi started running back which he almost never does. its not like he is the only superstar there but he is by far the youngest out of the 3


Psych-Vader

Exactly, even at Barca messi didn't track back but he was still good at pressing and somehow got the ball back from the opponents.


Rickcampbell98

Compare young messis pressing to mbops, night and day. I'm not even talking about volume but effectiveness, not only does mbop not do it much he's shit at it when he does.


MERTENS_GOAT

Damn did Tagliafico just reject the shirt swap with Messi? Messi was already about to take it off


pixelkipper

he might already have a few from the NT


FortniteGaveMeAids

Mbappe needs to be a team player, lmao man had like 3 opportunities to pass to an open man but instead he shot it


matthieuC

He needs to spend a few games on the bench to ponder the meaning of coop sport.


Number1onPlanet3

I just don't think he will ever learn to pass. A lot of people last year were saying he is the best passer in the PSG team and I am not sure they know exactly what makes someone a good passer. He does this far too often. Believing in yourself to get past a player is one thing but not playing in a teammate in a better position is the worst thing.


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Number1onPlanet3

You even quoted me and still talked about Mbappe being the best PLAYER even tho what you quoted clearly says best PASSER 😂


thematrixhasmeow

He had plenty of assists last year but he wants to be the main man this year


TheOneNectarine

He had 26 assists last season (19 in the league)*, I don't think it's unfair to say he's a decent passer when he's not being selfish. This season his mentality is in shambles for obvious reason and he insists on playing hero ball every game. This isn't the Mbappé that everyone was crazy about last season.


elgrandorado

A better passer than Neymar, Verratti, or Messi? What were they smoking, crack?


Superb-Barracuda-924

They even had DiMaria at that point, those are just mostly French fanboys


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Number1onPlanet3

See and the worst part is that when Mbappe rightfully gets criticized his fans like you get really upset about it and come out to defend him so fast. No one here said anything about him not being world class. Being selfish and not knowing when to give the ball to a teammate has always been a big fault in his game. Regardless of how much "form" he builds. Also, again I will tell you that getting assists has nothing to do with being a good passer or not. Football isn't that simple


elgrandorado

Mbappe is a world class player, I’m just contesting people stupid enough to say he’s even the third best passer at the club haha.


t_mac1

EveryGK turns super sayan vs Messi. That fk save was ridiculous


Round_Headed_Gimp

They just know where he’ll shoot, especially from outside the box


Gibbonrush

Also the expectation. The potential shot raises their play because they have to be prepared for any shot. It's like how messi is good in big games because it actually matters. I guess the keepers rise to the occasion.