T O P
gibLight2

Martinez more a Cb or a CDM? I am hoping he settles as Frenkie partner in double pivot


ChopinsFlames

He's not a midfielder lmao, he's a CB. He had one season where he was shoehorned as a DM and that was 2 years ago. In general he's a CB and that's what ten Hag plays him. We're getting him as a CB.


bpjker

[Daley Blind is........special ](https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*P2OCBc-jHA8ykhcWKD0OxQ.png)


Time-Ad-4302

I hate this window because all of our fans are Dutch football experts and now Martinez is way better overall than Timber.Also sign a forward you fucks.


ChiAllTheTime

What's your problem if our fans are like that


Time-Ad-4302

It's because they know fuck all most of the time.Just leads to unrealistic expectations and disappointment if the last decade was a good indicator.


typicalpelican

Think Bergwijn will do well next season outside of Spurs?


doriscissorsfind441

Yes. He will have a Depay like trajectory imo


day_bat_28

Wait, so people here actually think Hazard was overrated, or is it just trolling the Chelsea fans?


1PSW1CH

Nah, the guy was genuinely such a joy to watch and I usually take absolutely no joy in watching Chelsea


RomeoLavia

I do remember feeling that he was overrated at a point, this was probably five years ago now. These days not at all, if anything it's the opposite, I feel like there are many people that underrate how good he was at his peak because of the last few years.


day_bat_28

Recency bias kills lol. Genuinely rated Hazard as one of the best in the world, just below the Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar clique. He was mesmerizing. Whatever you say of his goal contributions, he carried that Chelsea team for quite a bit


punching-bag9018

Who is K2? I will choke you to death if its Kounde.


machorhombus

Kalidou Koulibaly


punching-bag9018

It's not even a particularly hard name to spell.


mountainsky9

It is 2nd tallest mountain in the world, located in Pakistan


punching-bag9018

I've actually seen it in person on a trip. Lovely view.


mountainsky9

Wow cool


ChopinsFlames

I'm so jealous that Chelsea is getting SMS.


Seanxprt

It's nowhere near complete, we get linked to him on the regular


WyboSF

We aren’t


Cowdude179

Looks like money + player like Emerson or Kepa to land him


diegojaen18

? We’re just interested


burningbarn8

I sincerely doubt we're getting him this summer.


Common-Restaurant-53

Why are Pogba and McTominay scapegoated at Manchester United? McTominay has been heavily used by the past few managers, and Pogba starts for the current World Cup holders and is wanted by the most successful Italian team is recent years. Surely they can't be that bad. If someone says that Pogba is wanted for his marketing potential, I'm gonna flip a lid.


LordTrinity

Everything related to Man Utd gets 3x more exagerated than it should be. So people treat the players as top class individuals or relegation esque ones. You wouldn't think the team finished 3rd, 2nd and 6th with them (which, if you make an average, is more the true level of the squad and its players) As for Pogba, if he wasn't so expensive and also a cunt, certainly people would treat him better


McNippy

Pogba was pure shit for almost all of his Manchester United career, especially for the fee. He's not being scapegoated he's being justifiably criticised.


WyboSF

“Pure shit” is a wild exaggeration, and it’s not like it been a well tuned machine


avolcando

> McTominay has been heavily used by the past few managers This is Maguire level logic, "he's starting so he must be doing good"


bpjker

United teams have scapegoats always. Maguire has been a bigger scapegoats than both of them. Pogba was expected to do magic he couldn't or expected to be good at things he wasn't. McTom is a squad player with poor spatial awareness who has been starting all games when he should't be because he can cover a large area left by our structural frailties.


ChopinsFlames

McTominay is shit on because he's shit. It's not quantum physics.


MrEnganche

How much wage cut did Coutinho agree to for his move to Villa?


More_Beer_NYC

Rags say its 70%, take that for what you will, but they all have the same number


tefftlon

Each of the past 3 World Cups, we *suddenly* realize how stacked the team was. Lots of talk about how the 2nd team for the recent winner would be competitive. So which country has some sneaky depth right now? Brazil?


L34hhhh

France


mountainsky9

Spain is pretty solid in terms of their midfield and fullbacks, for sure.


dayloversd

Portugal had sneaky depth for a while, imo the 2nd best squad after France. Haven't managed to show up in recent tournaments though.


bpjker

I wouldn't say they have as good of a squad as you're claiming at all. There are teams with better and more balanced squad.


zionwilliamson_

France, Brazil, Portugal maybe


Stuff2511

[Probably been shared 20 times here already](https://twitter.com/esmuellert_/status/1541771992327675905), but lol


1PSW1CH

I don’t get it


tunken

List of players with too much wage that not easy to get rid: 1. Aubameyang, sold for free with compensation 2. Ozil, sold for free with shared wage 3. Griezmann 4. F. De Jong 5. Aaron Ramsey 6. Neymar 7. Bale, contract expired 8. Pogba, contract expired 9. Hazard, not really a problem Madrid is ok with it


[deleted]

Tanguy Ndombele


Spec1alistInFailure

Hugo Lloris Ben Davies - Eric Dier - Cuti Romero Sessegnon Emerson Royal Bissouma - P-E Hojbjerg Kulusevski - Kane - Son Where does this team finish?


[deleted]

You forgot Doherty and Perisic


punching-bag9018

Doherty and Perisic would start at wingback


Cowdude179

4th


burningbarn8

Perisic replaces Sessegnon. But yeah eh 4th, great attack, especially with Perisic supporting it that's an improvement on last season, but not too impressive outside of that.


Mitch_Itfc

Probably not very high if Davies plays right centre back and the 2 wingbacks swap sides. Joking aside I imagine Skipp or the bloke they got from Juve start next to Bissouma, Perisic will also play most games. They desperately need a RWB because Emerson is absolutely awful, like he gives Firpo a run for his money he’s that shite. 3rd if they sign a RWB and Bissouma doesn’t get locked up. 4/5th otherwise.


[deleted]

Doherty will start over Emerson for sure. That said Emerson is no where near as bad as Firpo. He's a good RB just not at all fit for RWB. He performed brilliantly in the last month of 21/22, he's really not that shite. Hojbjerg is also incredibly underrated, he'd start with Bissouma I think, but Skipp and Bentancur are good too.


MKtheMaestro

Bloke they got from Juventus. Class lad.


[deleted]

Sess doesn't start above Perisic and Emerson isn't good enough at RWB.


Stuff2511

With the treble


larcenistxd

This team doesn't move me, full credit to Conte if he can finish top 4 again


mrscorchingtakes

4th, but only if Kane/Son keep performing at this level


Mediocre_Nova

wtf is this formatting


Spec1alistInFailure

3-4-3 bruv


Mediocre_Nova

But why did you start from the left at times and from the right at times


BringingGunsToArenas

Any Raphinha replacement links for Arsenal?


Cowdude179

Asensio it looks like


random23448

Raphinha isn’t fully done, but it’ll probably take a couple days


TheMonkeyPrince

US is the first Concacaf team to qualify for the U20 World Cup. Panama/Honduras play tonight, and Dominican Republic/Jamaica and Guatemala/Mexico play tomorrow to decide the other three spots. Whichever two teams get to the finals also qualify for the Olympics.


justaregulargye

I think the Koulibaly rumors are to push Juve to accept a bid for De Ligt. Don’t think there are many clubs after De Ligt this year and Juve needs money. Though if we end up signing both, I’m not complaining and would actually be the ideal solution.


Dusan-Vlahovic

Arrivabene is running deals now and he’s going to hardball. Especially knowing you have money and new owners that want to spend My thought was it’s an alternative for you guys


justaregulargye

That’s fine, we go for Koulibaly then. IMO a better player, at lower wages, lower cost - would just be a medium term solution instead of long term. Also we likely stick to the 200m budget regardless of new owner, so don’t think that’s a huge factor either. But I can see De Ligt staying put.


Dusan-Vlahovic

I obviously rate De Ligt very highly but I wouldn’t really argue with saying Koulibaly is the better player currently. Physically a beast and is IMO prime CB age De Ligts price is so high because he would need to finance two CBs if he’s sold. One would be expected to start most minutes next season and would need to be high quality as well. That’s kinda why I don’t really see one of the swaps being accepted I will say you are the first Chelsea fan I’ve seen even mention his wages tho


justaregulargye

Why would you need him to finance two CBs if only one of them would be needed as direct replacement. If the same money can be used to fill other areas is squad (eg attack with Pulisic / Werner) through swaps it’s essentially the same thing except you might get some discount on those players prices. And I’d guess the clubs could use some accounting magic that results from swap deals. Also there might be other players like Emerson and Jorginho that come into the picture to make this deal happen, I wouldn’t be surprised. I thought it was common knowledge he’s on high wages which is why not many clubs are interested because combine that with Juve’s asking price and you’ve get an enormous package to deal with.


Dusan-Vlahovic

Chiellini while not able to play very often was still a fantastic defender when available. With him now gone and taking away De Ligt you would be left with Bonucci, Rugani, and Gatti. We were supposedly already in the market for a CB before all this news came out, so with our most consistent defender these past couple years also gone we really would need two quality options coming in Pulisic is not good enough and gets injured too often for what we are looking for in our left wing and this is a personal thing that no clue if management/Allegri agrees with is to stop shoehorning makeshift strikers out onto the wing in Werner’s case, also don’t really think he’s good enough to accept in a swap in that case We’re also now very close to signing Cambiasso at LB so I think the Emerson ship has sailed and I don’t see Jorginho coming in after Pogba (personally think the combo is way too slow to play together) I think if Juve really go for the deal it’s going to be close to a fuck off price


justaregulargye

If you were already in the market for a CB before DeLigt, then you wouldn’t really need DeLigt money for two CBs, just for one. Even if you assume you do need DeLigt for two quality players, if you don’t sell you’re left with only two quality CBs in Bonuncci and DeLigt. And if that is really the case, all the more reason you would need money to have two quality CBs. That a sale is needed, means Juve could accept lower price. It’s a game of poker, where Juve seems to indicate they have the upper hand which may not really be the case and too risky a play IMO. - a la Sandro situation from a few years ago. There have been past interests in Pulisic and Werner from Juve so I wouldn’t rule them out. Pogba and Jorginho are every different players too and the latter is the player in Allegri mold.


PreachinMyOwnFuneral

There's a subset of Corinthians fans, which call themselves ''Autistas Alvinegros'', The translation would sort of be '' Black&White Autistic clan '''


AeronReformed

What are examples of players getting exposed in a new league?


Jabari313

Immobile


burningbarn8

From a comment I made in the MU Lisandro thread. "Since 2015 some high profile moves include - Depay to MU, Davinson Sanchez to Spurs, Ziyech to Chelsea, VDB to MU, Bergwijn to Spurs, Klassen to Everton, Jansenn to Spurs, Wijnaldum to Newcastle, Angelino to City." All those players except Wijnaldum lol. Also Werner, kind of Kai honestly, he's pretty good and has that CL goal but dude sure hasn't scored close to the 17 he got in the Bundesliga. Bakayoko, ugh, fucking terrible player, how did Monaco convince people he was good?


liarloserat

Coutinho, Sancho, Werner, Bakayoko, Nicola Pepe, Kepa, Joelinton, Ndombele, Soumare, Jovic, Davinson Sanchez, Hirving Lozano, etc.


ddrdavei2

Henry in Serie A Good thing he moved to a much easier league and became a legend there


Lyrical_Forklift

He only had one season there as a twenty year old so not exactly the best example.


ddrdavei2

Serie A had extremely high standards at the time, if he proved himself he would've been an even bigger star. Probably a ballon d'or or two instead of finishing below Nedved.


Lyrical_Forklift

He ended up being the Premier League's greatest ever player, World Cup winner, European Championship winner, and won the European Golden Shoe twice- I don't think he'll be disappointed how his career turned out.


uch_m

If he performed at juve they would have gift him the balon d'or like they did to Nedved but he floped


Shardul23197

https://twitter.com/thecityzen06/status/1541799703872159744?s=20&t=TDJSymveM3rNBKB3QJcJow I'm not sure I agree with this. Sterling is in the top 10 of all-time Manchester City goal scorers.


frenetic_clockworks

You may as well have dug in the bin to find that


avolcando

It has 7 likes how did you even find that


Shardul23197

One of my followers on Twitter liked it


zxenmed

Obviously not true, troll tweet


donkey100100

I agree with you. Mahrez is a Leicester legend but I don’t think he has really been crucial for City. Take him out and I think City are still as good. But take out Sterling and I think City are a bit worse. That’s my opinion


NoodleinTexas

Take out our top scorer in all competitions and we’re still as good eh?😭


donkey100100

Are you saying Mahrez is your top scorer in all comps?


NoodleinTexas

Yea he is lol


donkey100100

If that’s true then my original opinion is probably off-base


Mediocre_Nova

Lmao this fucking sub has some of the worst takes I've ever read


NoodleinTexas

Seriously


IfISpeak_

Mahrez is a key player for Pep and does stuff in the team no one else can do. The disrespect he gets on here is shocking. Pep needs him for what he brings especially his 1v1 against the full back and ability to go either way from the right wing. If he leaves City, it will be difficult for him to be replaced.


donkey100100

He doesn’t even start most of the games. Of course he is a great player but without him they play Sterling there or Jesus and they’re still just as good IMO


ChopinsFlames

If these Chelsea rumours are true then we are fucked. I mean they're already the 3rd best team in the league but now it'll be even harder to catch up.


three_shoes

You never know, their signings might be crap or injured and Man Utd finally start training its players.


enterthegalactic

….bc they’re signing raphina ?


burningbarn8

+Sterling and K2 and De Ligt. Raph and Sterling both very close, the other two not so much but probs the rumours OP's talking about.


punching-bag9018

Who is K2?


burningbarn8

Koulibaly.


day_bat_28

The mountain in POK, second tallest in the world


Spec1alistInFailure

My top 5 favorite kit + sponsor combinations ever (no order): - [Auxerre PlayStation kit](https://images.app.goo.gl/sAKRdaftEDeJtLMs9) - [Man Utd Blue AIG kit](https://images.app.goo.gl/TUNinLf2yqsihKp89) although the white one is also crispy - [LFC 21/22 Away kit](https://images.app.goo.gl/YA5dfyJLSctvGeF19) - [19/20 Real Madrid white & gold kit](https://images.app.goo.gl/fGMNhp3xBX8gvhXx5) - [Milan OPEL kit](https://images.app.goo.gl/of1p6Ykr1hmZdX3s7) Honorable mentions: 21/22 Man Utd powder blue kit, LFC 19/20 pinstripe kit, Arsenal O2 kit (any colour), and any kit with the Fly Emirates sponsor on it.


KrillWhitey

No mention of Portsmouth TY Beanie Babies, I see.


Mediocre_Nova

The Madrid white/gold one is my favourite non-Spurs kit by far


donkey100100

That LFC away kit colour is so nice, I bought it as soon as I saw it


frenetic_clockworks

I don't see any Carlsbergs on there or the Fiorentina Nintendo one from the late 90s


TheConundrum98

Reckon half the reason that Auxerre kit looks that good is because it's Djibril Cisse


mint4condition

I like Juventus with Jeep, looks very clean and both begin with J


YoungDawz

Fiorentina with Nintendo Newcastle with Newcastle Breweries. Barca with Unicef. Inter with Pirelli. Juventus with Sony Liverpool with Carlsberg. Arsenal with O2 and JVC PSG with RTL


avolcando

I like most of these, also ours with Holsten


mint4condition

>Inter with Pirelli rip so much


mint4condition

I used to like Fly Emirates, but now their ugly Emirates Fly Better is ugly


neededtowrite

> any kit with the Fly Emirates sponsor on it. Ugh. Fucking worst


IfISpeak_

Sheffield United earned the LEAST from TV rights in the Premier League at €105M while Inter earned the MOST in Serie A at €84.2M… [If I speak...](https://twitter.com/FClMthomas/status/1541420989271183361?s=20&t=LZuJh3w8fqUVxl2GSAEI5g)


random23448

What’s the issue? The EPL dwarfs Serie A in revenue


LDQQXDJ

Proves Money doesn’t equal quality


Double-Ended-Dildo69

That's what happens when one league produces greater revenue than another league.


zionwilliamson_

And PL teams still regularly embarrass themselves in Europe. Shocking league once you go past the top 2-3.


transtifa

Even we made a CL final lol


zionwilliamson_

Tottenham made one miracle run, which was great. And then?? Disaster in EL vs Dinamo Zagreb. Another terrible performance this year in ECL. Should be automatic finalists in these competitions considering the financial disparity.


Mediocre_Nova

We had Nuno and then we got kicked out because of UEFA incompetence out of our control. You ok there?


zionwilliamson_

UEFA incompetence made you drop points in all the initial games? Should've gotten out of that group with 15 then. What about the previous season? "We had a bad manager" isn't an excuse, he's literally part of the team.


Mediocre_Nova

We had a bad manager


zionwilliamson_

Must be a league full of bad managers then. Not like Tottenham are the only underperformers in Europe.


jim0wheel1

60% of Champions League finalists (and 30% of Europa finalists) in the last 5 years have been English.


zionwilliamson_

I already said the top 3 performs well yet people keep mentioning them.. why? Please look at how every team besides City/Liverpool/Chelsea performed in those years. Tottenham in 2019 are quite literally the only surprise. Every other performance is either doing what's expected or just losing in embarrassing fashion. West Ham lost to Frankfurt and people accept it as a normal thing lmao. Frankfurt's 2nd biggest transfer sale was to West Ham. This is a ridiculous upset. I'd love to see what Frankfurt could do if they were a team capable of spending €50m on a single player, they're already good enough to win EL.


Drama_poli

lmao how, tell me one league that participated in more semi finals and finals in the last 5 years


zionwilliamson_

Look at the last 3 seasons (19/20, 20/21, 21/22) and the only teams that performed as expected are Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea. This whole thread is about Sheffield Utd getting more money than Inter. A midtable team in the PL like Leicester should never be finishing below the likes of Napoli and Spartak Moscow in their EL group. West Ham should never be losing to Frankfurt. These are the things I'm talking about. Saying it for the trillionth time here but I am not talking about the best teams in the league. Man Utd can spend on a comparable level to nation-backed sides. They should never be losing to Atletico, or Villarreal in the final, or Sevilla.


Drama_poli

Atletico were champions and we barely lost to them. all in all topping the group and reaching the last 16th wasn't the worst thing.


zionwilliamson_

Atletico's net spend since 2015 is €100m, Man Utd €700m. People just don't want to accept that these teams are not on an even playing field. They just say "oh the money was badly spent, money doesn't buy quality". Yeah that's the whole point. All that money and we still have this bad of a league.


Drama_poli

net spend is bulshit because we don't sale players total spending of Atletico is hardly small


MJ9695

How?? They had so many CL finalist from different teams Its just Real, and Bayern vs PL


zionwilliamson_

Good thing I said Europe and specified "once you go past the top 2-3". Their teams should be winning EL (and now the Conference League) literally every single season with no exceptions.


MJ9695

Besided La Liga ( mainly Real and Sevilla), its been only PL clubs in both Europa and CL, theyve had 6 different club finalist last 3 years alone, not really embarassing at all The real embarassing league in Europe is Seria A and French league


zionwilliamson_

Why would those leagues be embarrassing? They don't have PL money. Their teams aren't expected to perform at the same level. Stop bringing up Liverpool/City/Chelsea performances in the CL, I've clearly mentioned multiple times it's not about those teams. It's about Tottenham, Arsenal, Wolves, Leicester, Man Utd, Burnley that one season etc. These teams should be winning European tournaments. The financial gap is that big. Yes the top teams are good, I've accepted that part already.


Own_Solution4356

we know your name


FicklePayment7417

I'm in your walls


HaroldFinch2022

This is how the fans welcomed Corinthians for the match against Boca -> https://twitter.com/yago_ruda/status/1541920558186733568


Flamengo81-19

Excited for the match


Own_Solution4356

Low key happy we aren’t getting Raphinha. I would rather spend that money on a xhaka replacement and a decent enough saka backup


RawIsLaw_

copium


Mediocre_Nova

They never wanted Bissouma either uno


Own_Solution4356

i am pretty disappointed we didn’t. get bissouma tbh. He would have been a good rotation option for partey, especially since partey gets injured for like a third of the season. With raphinha, I would have been happy if we got him, but it doesn’t matter that much to me


Own_Solution4356

no? I never wanted raphinha


icemankiller8

That’s fine but the issue is he’s going to Chelsea and there’s no chance of arsenal being better than them next year. I do agree that arsenal really didn’t need him since his best position is the best as sakas best position but where did we go from here now? Sterling, Raphinha, havertz is a better front 3 than ours And their defence is better too that’s basically the only team we could have tried to get better than


dltbgyd8731

We finished 2 pts off spurs but you think we can’t even TRY to get better than them??!!!


Credk

You still need a starting quality right winger. In going for Raphinha it’s clear imo Arteta’s long term vision for Saka is at LB


taylorstillsays

How do you work that one out when Pepe couldn’t get game time to save his life, even when the Arsenal LBs were putting in weekly disasterclasses


Own_Solution4356

💀


HaroldFinch2022

Wonder who you will try now? Maybe Tielemans?


Own_Solution4356

Tieletubby links have gone dead recently, think we might come back if the price is lower, like with ramsdale


1PSW1CH

40m for Tielemans ain’t a bad deal at all. Depends on the budget I guess


kplo

Kinda happy Griezmann has declined so much since he did a fucking Fortnite dance after scoring against Argentina.


HaroldFinch2022

He is Uruguayan tbf


kplo

Disgusting 🤮 How do you feel for tonight btw? Only an hour left.


HaroldFinch2022

I'm nervous about our line up. It seems Du won't play and our DMs available are shit (Xavier and Roni). You?


kplo

We are playing full strength, except for LB because Fabra got too many yellows. Boca is a very mysterious team, we play better against tough opposition but we can also get this massive defensive lagoons at times.


HaroldFinch2022

Just saw that we are playing with Roni, Adson (RW) and Giuliano in the midfield. We are fucked.


Wiseman-Dennis

[Journalists have stans now](https://twitter.com/LyesBouzidi10/status/1541812287337537537?s=20&t=LkGCqWhEuonszRsIwC1cfA) >!who you backing though!<


ZaDoruphin

Ali Gold.


day_bat_28

Grace Robertson, easy


Mediocre_Nova

Ali Gold is clear


frenetic_clockworks

There's Pearce and then all the other dregs


APeckover27

Ornstien is the original guy on the scene. His reliability has never really been questioned either. The only thing against it is that The Athletic often give him the final "done deal" article when the real work was with the club journos. He also has a twitter comp.


liarloserat

Orny always make me so h-


jaanedejaanede

Prime Pedulla and "it's not even close"


Double-Ended-Dildo69

I'm definitely a Romano-stan - I unashamedly love the "here we go" catchphrase and I just adore how he seems to rattle everyone now that he is a superstar journalist.


Jabari313

[I know who my man is](https://i.redd.it/hencb3zc8qa11.png)


IfISpeak_

the one and only queen... >!es\_grimes!<


inspired_corn

Half the fun of the transfer window is interpreting her batshit crazy tweets. More often than not there’s some truth to what she’s saying (enough times that it can’t just be a coincidence) but she’s also been horribly wrong a few times


Own_Solution4356

she got a couple things right but has some really bad misses


Cowdude179

Orny and Nizaar >


Spec1alistInFailure

[Never forget](https://twitter.com/lfc_trujista/status/1541807640732471297?s=21&t=KRRhyEkSJ4_cv8V3VnW7bA)


IfISpeak_

a shame he will only be scoring tap ins now.


LampseederBroDude51

I think that night is very forgettable for you, at least


astral34

Guy that posted it >my third club making me proud


Own_Solution4356

third club is crazy


burningbarn8

wtf lmao


JohnnyKossacks

This is kinda random, but I wonder if football has ever had polymaths in the sport? Perhaps someone like Vinnie Jones? Who excelled in his career as an actor and the personification of the english game as a player


Cowdude179

Pogba


HaroldFinch2022

I think Chiellini has a MBA or something like that. We had Dr. Sócrates as well


KensaiVG

Carlos Salvador Bilardo was not only a great player and a world cup winning manager, he also studied medicine during his early playing career and graduated as a gynecologist, as well as researching on rectal cancer.


Lyrical_Forklift

Socrates probably deserves a mention here too


RYAN_BENJAMIN

How does Vinnie Jones come across as a polymath?