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At some point last season he had missed over half the games for PSG since he'd been here. His ratio of goal contribution is impressive considering that.
it means the asses, comes from a time when Barcelona fans would sit on a fence to watch the games so passers by would only see their asses sticking out above them.
https://barcelonayellow.com/images/stories/pictures_barca_museum/pictures_fcbarcelona_museum_15.jpg
>The true backstory of why Barcelona supporters call themselves 'cules' dates back to the early 20th century, when Barcelona played their matches at a small ground called Calle de la Industria which could hold only 6,000 people.
>The stadium was very simple and not lavish at all, nowhere near the grandiose design of Camp Nou. But even back then, Barcelona had more fans than they were able to accommodate at their ground, with the stadium only boasting a simple wall and a two-tiered stand.
>And so, in order for most Barcelona fans to catch their team in action, they would start perching on the walls that surrounded the field.
>Those passing the ground from the outside, then, could only see glimpses of these fans' backsides.
ok, we can go into this debate if you want, but lets make it clear:
you are currently, in good faith, trying to argue that L1 is stronger or as strong as the PL?
How many Ligue 1 teams even get out of the Champions league group stage? Premier League had 4 different teams in the final the last 5 years.
Are you seriously comparing the two?
Ffs man.. I’ll just post the original comment for you since you can’t do your own analysis.
city trashing a team 5-0
people: I sleep
psg trashing a relegation team
people: wOww Is tHIs leAGUe alWAYs tHis bAD?
because you are, in bad faith, insinuating that ppl say l1 is shit just because relegation teams ar getting scored against.
No, l1 is shit regardless.
While City can beat some teams 5-0 and the PL is still the strongest.
Im not saying PL is worse than Ligue 1 of course not. but people act like its 100 times better which is just false. city has been more dominant in PL than PSG in Ligue 1 even though they were pretty equal in CL,city little bit better i would say.
PSG 86points, 89goals, 36 conceded, GD is 53
City 90points, 96goals, 24 conceded, GD is 72 with 1 more game to go.
So if in the albanian league the difference between the first and the reast are not this big it means the albanian league is stronger than the PL? What kind of logic is that?
City having a very good season doesnt mean the league is not 100x stronger than l1.
wtf are you on about? the logic is that if a team has a lot of points and goals and less goals conceded the more dominant that team is in their league. simple as that. how can you not understand that?. your example with the albanian league would mean that the teams are competitive against each other and no one is dominant. not that its better than prem.
it was you who gave those stats to my comment that said that l1 is bad and the prem is a lot better.
what are you even talking about right now?
you just literally agreed with me that those stats mean nothing and just because a team is dominant it doesnt mean the league is bad.
my point was that ligue 1 isn't bad with showing that PSG isn't dominating it as much as city is prem. Ligue 1 is still a top 5 league. So no i didn't agree that those stats mean nothing otherwise i wouldn't have used them. but you started arguing with some random albanian league which had nothing to do with anything.
1 team dominating a season has nothing to do with how good/bad a league is.
why can you show that ligue 1 is not bad by showing that psg doesnt dominate as much while I cant show that the albanian league is not bad by showing the albanian 1st doesnt dominate as much as city?
whats the difference?
the huge difference is the european competitions. those are the only places where we can compare top european teams. and that gives us an indication how good the leagues are aswell. the albanian teams don't play in these tournaments. let me explain since you don't seem to understand.
PSG and City Faced each other in CL. that gives us an indication how good the teams are. city won 1 and psg won the other so they are pretty equal teams even though city was little bit better. that tells us psg would most likely be a top 3 club in england and city would obviously win the ligue 1 like psg does.
Chelsea a top3 team in england faced lille a top 10team in france. and even though chelsea won both matches, the matches weren't a beating they were pretty close
Tottenham a top 4 team faced ligue 1 top 4 team rennes and drew 2-2 and then lost 3-0
that tells us that the french teams aren't bad if they are able to beat prem teams who play in "the best league in the world"
the albanian 1st team would get battered by english top 4. so thats why your albanian example is flawd.
so summery, 1 team dominating a league doesn't directly show us how good the league is but when you put teams from that league against another league's teams that DOES tell us how good the league is. if league A top 1 who dominates their league loses easily to league B top 7 that tells us that league A is not clearly as good as league B.
hopefully now you get it lmao.
>so summery, 1 team dominating a league doesn't directly show us how good the league is but when you put teams from that league against another league's teams that DOES tell us how good the league is. if league A top 1 who dominates their league loses easily to league B top 7 that tells us that league A is not clearly as good as league B.
Ok so you are literally saying that the stats you wrote mean nothing. LMFAO
And stop drawing conclusions from 1 year. If we only look at this year the eredivisie is the 2nd strongest league. Thats why coefficients show the last 5 years, PL is 100k+, L1 is 60k. L1 is closer in strength to 6th (portugal) than to Bundesliga (4th)
L1 is bad because its a farmer league. It has 1 team with 900m market value and then the 2nd has 350m.
Even bundesliga, another farmers league is 800m bayern and 560m for the 2nd.
If you remove endless oil money from PSG, L1 is a mediocre League.
The problem with L1 is that it has the budget of a top 4 league, and the performance of a 6+ league.
i don’t think they’ll win the ucl either but they should definitely do better, don’t think they built enough chemistry before the real tie this season. if they can find balance in the squad and especially the midfield i reckon they’ll do a lot better
I know it's trendy to bash Ligue 1 and earns people a lot of upvotes in here, but Messi went from scoring 30 goals in La Liga last year to 6 in Ligue 1 this year. Maybe it's not that easy to score?
Obviously scoring in league 1 isn't easy, has people already forgotten psg dind won the league last year?. Anyway I think the main reason for messi not scoring as usual is more about team chemistry and messi's morale than the league difficulty itself, if meesi plays in a team built for him and he is motivated he will score everywhere until he is old enough.
That is my view of the situation as well. Sure there’s quite a few big names and what not but there’s not that much cohesion or chemistry. Give Messi that and he’ll score for fun in any league
Not like this. The defending in the first and third goal is unreal and it happens nearly every game PSG plays. These guys are hardly even football players
Ok, lets look at coefficients. Ppl defending l1 like to say that l1 is a top 5 league.
Yes it is, the problem is that the budget difference between the top 5 and the 6 is like 4 times.
Ligue 1, with its current good year, is still closer in strenght (according to coefficients) to portugal liga than it is to the 4th league, the german bundesliga.
PPL trash L1 because it has the budget of a top 4 league, and the performance of a 6+ league.
This year, french teams did very good. If french teams keep doing good for a few years, you can say that l1 is not bad. But l1 stans shitting on coefficients for all these years because their teams did shit, and now this year they suddenly all became uefa coefficient conoisseurs, is just funny as hell.
Last year the teams which were high in the league when the league stopped due to COVID played in Europe. I doubt La Liga or Serie A would get high coefficient points if teams like Eibar and Levante or Sassuolo and Torino played in Europe
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Bordeaux right now hoping PSG scores at least 12 more
It was so easy to be at least 18th place man, the amount of points we lost in winnable situations makes no sense to me.
100th goal for PSG <3
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I hope so.
Honestly thought he'd have more than that, been at the club very nearly 5 years hasn't he?
At some point last season he had missed over half the games for PSG since he'd been here. His ratio of goal contribution is impressive considering that.
He missed like half of the games, at least a third..between that and the time needed to be fit again
He missed 50% of PSG matches ever since he arrived
Goes to show how tough league 1 is
Wow that's low for a player of his talent after such a time. Injuries have killed that.
I thought Mbappe would score all the goals today, but I'm glad Neymar scored. It always makes me happy when he does.
Both Neymar and Messi are culés. They should give all the balls to Mbappe so he scores 6 goals today.
Cules sound so much like an insult in french that it makes me laugh more than it should
Any other language too
it means the asses, comes from a time when Barcelona fans would sit on a fence to watch the games so passers by would only see their asses sticking out above them. https://barcelonayellow.com/images/stories/pictures_barca_museum/pictures_fcbarcelona_museum_15.jpg >The true backstory of why Barcelona supporters call themselves 'cules' dates back to the early 20th century, when Barcelona played their matches at a small ground called Calle de la Industria which could hold only 6,000 people. >The stadium was very simple and not lavish at all, nowhere near the grandiose design of Camp Nou. But even back then, Barcelona had more fans than they were able to accommodate at their ground, with the stadium only boasting a simple wall and a two-tiered stand. >And so, in order for most Barcelona fans to catch their team in action, they would start perching on the walls that surrounded the field. >Those passing the ground from the outside, then, could only see glimpses of these fans' backsides.
So it's the same root haha. But that's a nice story. Gracias
PSG trying to save ASSE themselves
city trashing a team 5-0 people: I sleep psg trashing a relegation team people: wOww Is tHIs leAGUe alWAYs tHis bAD?
>people: wOww Is tHIs leAGUe alWAYs tHis bAD? but the answer to this question is a clear yes, while the PL is not.
I mean more teams scored 3+ goals on Norwich Watford and Leeds than didn’t
ok, we can go into this debate if you want, but lets make it clear: you are currently, in good faith, trying to argue that L1 is stronger or as strong as the PL?
I’m saying PSG winning 3-0 against a relegated team isn’t an indicator of it.
How many Ligue 1 teams even get out of the Champions league group stage? Premier League had 4 different teams in the final the last 5 years. Are you seriously comparing the two?
I’m comparing the fact that top teams in the PL beat relegated PL teams by 3+ all the time which is what the original comment was referring to mate.
So what exactly are you arguing here? Who gives a fuck how many goals relegated teams concede?
Ffs man.. I’ll just post the original comment for you since you can’t do your own analysis. city trashing a team 5-0 people: I sleep psg trashing a relegation team people: wOww Is tHIs leAGUe alWAYs tHis bAD?
because you are, in bad faith, insinuating that ppl say l1 is shit just because relegation teams ar getting scored against. No, l1 is shit regardless. While City can beat some teams 5-0 and the PL is still the strongest.
Jfc no one is saying that. How thin skinned are you?
oh the angry bayern fan from the other farmer league with the ad hom fuck off
You okay there mate?
yes, thanks for asking
Im not saying PL is worse than Ligue 1 of course not. but people act like its 100 times better which is just false. city has been more dominant in PL than PSG in Ligue 1 even though they were pretty equal in CL,city little bit better i would say. PSG 86points, 89goals, 36 conceded, GD is 53 City 90points, 96goals, 24 conceded, GD is 72 with 1 more game to go.
So if in the albanian league the difference between the first and the reast are not this big it means the albanian league is stronger than the PL? What kind of logic is that? City having a very good season doesnt mean the league is not 100x stronger than l1.
wtf are you on about? the logic is that if a team has a lot of points and goals and less goals conceded the more dominant that team is in their league. simple as that. how can you not understand that?. your example with the albanian league would mean that the teams are competitive against each other and no one is dominant. not that its better than prem.
it was you who gave those stats to my comment that said that l1 is bad and the prem is a lot better. what are you even talking about right now? you just literally agreed with me that those stats mean nothing and just because a team is dominant it doesnt mean the league is bad.
my point was that ligue 1 isn't bad with showing that PSG isn't dominating it as much as city is prem. Ligue 1 is still a top 5 league. So no i didn't agree that those stats mean nothing otherwise i wouldn't have used them. but you started arguing with some random albanian league which had nothing to do with anything.
1 team dominating a season has nothing to do with how good/bad a league is. why can you show that ligue 1 is not bad by showing that psg doesnt dominate as much while I cant show that the albanian league is not bad by showing the albanian 1st doesnt dominate as much as city? whats the difference?
the huge difference is the european competitions. those are the only places where we can compare top european teams. and that gives us an indication how good the leagues are aswell. the albanian teams don't play in these tournaments. let me explain since you don't seem to understand. PSG and City Faced each other in CL. that gives us an indication how good the teams are. city won 1 and psg won the other so they are pretty equal teams even though city was little bit better. that tells us psg would most likely be a top 3 club in england and city would obviously win the ligue 1 like psg does. Chelsea a top3 team in england faced lille a top 10team in france. and even though chelsea won both matches, the matches weren't a beating they were pretty close Tottenham a top 4 team faced ligue 1 top 4 team rennes and drew 2-2 and then lost 3-0 that tells us that the french teams aren't bad if they are able to beat prem teams who play in "the best league in the world" the albanian 1st team would get battered by english top 4. so thats why your albanian example is flawd. so summery, 1 team dominating a league doesn't directly show us how good the league is but when you put teams from that league against another league's teams that DOES tell us how good the league is. if league A top 1 who dominates their league loses easily to league B top 7 that tells us that league A is not clearly as good as league B. hopefully now you get it lmao.
>so summery, 1 team dominating a league doesn't directly show us how good the league is but when you put teams from that league against another league's teams that DOES tell us how good the league is. if league A top 1 who dominates their league loses easily to league B top 7 that tells us that league A is not clearly as good as league B. Ok so you are literally saying that the stats you wrote mean nothing. LMFAO And stop drawing conclusions from 1 year. If we only look at this year the eredivisie is the 2nd strongest league. Thats why coefficients show the last 5 years, PL is 100k+, L1 is 60k. L1 is closer in strength to 6th (portugal) than to Bundesliga (4th) L1 is bad because its a farmer league. It has 1 team with 900m market value and then the 2nd has 350m. Even bundesliga, another farmers league is 800m bayern and 560m for the 2nd. If you remove endless oil money from PSG, L1 is a mediocre League. The problem with L1 is that it has the budget of a top 4 league, and the performance of a 6+ league.
If you actually think Ligue 1 is always this bad you definitely never watch it
l1 is shit, sorry your 1 team league is not entertaining at all.
Why does Metz sound like such a German name
It's close to Germany and it belonged to Germany at multiple points in it's history
And more eats there is a city in France called Strasbourg
Was that celebration a nod to Cavani?
That's what I was thinking, risky
risky how
Because Cavani literally got suspended for it 🤣, something with encouraging violence or something.
Nah, Cavani got a yellow. Then a second yellow for touching the ref
Ah correct, but the cards were all regarding the same situation no?
That's correct
It’s for CSGO Major which there’s a Brazilian team in playoffs
Not anymore
Yeh too my dismay, had them in my Pick em’s over Spirit
What Cavani did??!!!
Cavani does a celebration like that iirc
What celebration I didn’t see anything strange?
Nah, he done it when he played for the NT, is a CSGO reference.
Certainly looks like it lol
Oof thats risky cavani got a red card for that.
transfer saga free mbappe, depression free messi and injury free neymar might win everything next season
Lol we said that last summer but to be fair they are clicking very well now so who knows? Dont beleive it will happen but you never know in football
i don’t think they’ll win the ucl either but they should definitely do better, don’t think they built enough chemistry before the real tie this season. if they can find balance in the squad and especially the midfield i reckon they’ll do a lot better
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it was a joke lad
Metz extended their deal with psg aswell?
Sus celebration
Brazillian CS-GO team (Furia) members were watching the match and neymar is a supporter of them and did this celebration to them
10-0?
🏊>🐢
I know it's trendy to bash Ligue 1 and earns people a lot of upvotes in here, but Messi went from scoring 30 goals in La Liga last year to 6 in Ligue 1 this year. Maybe it's not that easy to score?
That would be using logic and people don’t like that here
Obviously scoring in league 1 isn't easy, has people already forgotten psg dind won the league last year?. Anyway I think the main reason for messi not scoring as usual is more about team chemistry and messi's morale than the league difficulty itself, if meesi plays in a team built for him and he is motivated he will score everywhere until he is old enough.
That is my view of the situation as well. Sure there’s quite a few big names and what not but there’s not that much cohesion or chemistry. Give Messi that and he’ll score for fun in any league
He is not the main scoring threat. He does the second pass or the assist now. People refuse to see the obvious and compare goal numbers like idiots.
The lack of energy and intensity from both teams is actually astonishing
Ligue 1 is actually so unbelievably trash
Real won 6-0 against Levante and you're complaining about a 3-0?
It’s not the score. It’s the defending. These guys are barely football players
Metz is 18th place. I'm sure PSG can do the same against Norwich
They’d likely do twice as much to Norwich.
Right but look at that defending for this goal and the first one. These guys are barely football players
You see this in every league though.
Not like this. The defending in the first and third goal is unreal and it happens nearly every game PSG plays. These guys are hardly even football players
So, to sum up, you're saying they're hardly even football players?
Yeah in summation I’m saying they’re barely even football players
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To be fair it's a relegated team on the last day of the season with nothing to play for
They actually did have something to play for but I guess they just weren't that bothered lol.
2nd ranked PL team beat the 6th ranked 4-0 in a half. This is 1st vs 18th.
Wait? Are you telling me Man City never won 6-0 against a relegated team? Not Bayern?
I mean, most teams in the relegation zones are bad...
Yeah this is 18th place Metz but w/e
Has a higher coefficient point this season than Italy, Germany and Spain this year but ok
Madrid fans are coping
Coefficient are bullshit
Ok, lets look at coefficients. Ppl defending l1 like to say that l1 is a top 5 league. Yes it is, the problem is that the budget difference between the top 5 and the 6 is like 4 times. Ligue 1, with its current good year, is still closer in strenght (according to coefficients) to portugal liga than it is to the 4th league, the german bundesliga. PPL trash L1 because it has the budget of a top 4 league, and the performance of a 6+ league. This year, french teams did very good. If french teams keep doing good for a few years, you can say that l1 is not bad. But l1 stans shitting on coefficients for all these years because their teams did shit, and now this year they suddenly all became uefa coefficient conoisseurs, is just funny as hell.
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Last year the teams which were high in the league when the league stopped due to COVID played in Europe. I doubt La Liga or Serie A would get high coefficient points if teams like Eibar and Levante or Sassuolo and Torino played in Europe
Levante lost to Real by 6-0. Relegation team are like that but yeah ligue 1 certainly not that good except 5-6 teams most team are terrible.
Lol
this is actually embarrassing for the league TBH
This doesn't happen in any other league
Everyone is scoring for fun versus Metz
How they are 18th you act like other leagues don’t have embarrassing scorelines here and there
Eh, psg is the best team in the 🌎, 🤷🏻♂️! Don’t @ me
It's fucking Metz m8
Wow they're destroying the mighty Metz!!!!! What a team!!!!! Wow what a league!!!!!! So much excitement in the last day of the league!!!!
Jesus the salt is real
FFS Angél
Where were you u/PSGAcademy? You missed all the fun
100th PSG goal in 144 appearance.
Lol sunday league level...is this shit that mbappe wants till the end of his carreer???!!!!
Like Real never destroys teams in Ligq
Bétis would put 5 in this Metz team...you Saw yesterday game???!!! La liga is 100miles ahead, and i mean every team there
Yeah, and Nice would beat Levante 5-0
I think people have forgotten every league has relegation teams. I don’t even want to know what a PSG - Norwich score would be nowadays
Must be Americans. I said that as a joke, but who knows
Must be English.
Just Madrid and this weird ass pl fans
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Yeah, it should only count against Levante
Is Ligue 1 defence always this bad?
Liverpool/City (City 10 goals in 2 games) lose no game in the Premier League in 2022 and you open your mouths ?
Just shows you how clear those two are compared to a team like PSG, Liverpool and City have done their business well
It's the 18th ranked team
This Neymar goal is better than Mbappe's last 2 goals by far
Tebas fuming