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[Tom Crocker] A “new feature” in the Man City programme today, highlighting their attendance figures.

[Tom Crocker] A “new feature” in the Man City programme today, highlighting their attendance figures.

Chris13Haughey

Please keep this feature for the derby


kcinkcinlim

You know what? United should put this feature as a special segment in THEIR programme for the derby. That way you ensure it happens.


Phoenixx777

I second this petty notion


WhyShouldIListen

"oh sorry, Gary forgot to put it in this week! The feature will return next week when we play Morpeth Town 2nd 11.


Frogblood

If they're cherry picking the same stats then isn't their all time top attendance higher than man us (from a cursory google)? Not that attendance at 1 match in the 30s really means anything these days.


El_Giganto

I think I've read people in Manchester attended games for both clubs at the time, though. If the attendance record really was set in 1934, then United should have a similar record.


kirkbywool

Yeah that was common back in the day for most cities. My dad who's in his 70ss,used to go watch Everton and Liverpool every week in the 60s. My uncle who's an Everton fan even went to wolves away when Liverpool won the league with my Dad and his mates as it was something to do and the pubs shut.


nickgray1995

I heard it said that Newcastle fans would go to Sunderland to support to opposition if Newcastle had an away game. Would imagine the same to be true for City/United


SeetheAccount

Years and years ago before hooliganism became a thing people used to just go to games to see players like Finney or Matthews. Harry Redknapp talks about it in his book. He'd go see Arsenal one week, Spurs the other etc, all with his dad.


spitfiremk1a

It’s good you dont have to take scarves as they run the video with scarves so you feel like there are fans


Comeonandslammmm

Absolutely farcical


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sidvicc

And kinda dumb selections too, like wow 1934 Manchester City drew big crowds....great.


mannyklein

I find this cringe worthy but probably chose it for the no history crowd


Calvin-ball

I guess? But it looks awful lol, like despite City being a global club in the modern era, they still can’t beat an attendance record set in the *1930s*. edit: yes, no capacity restrictions led to packed stadiums in that era, but then why bring it up at all? Just to prove they’re a bigger club than Southampton?


Brutalism_Fan

Football crowds were huge in the first half of the 20th Century. The largest crowd ever recorded at a football game was in 1950. Having a record attendance set before the ~60s really isn’t that uncommon. Still, bringing it up in response to poor attendances in the modern day is pretty daft.


Jaded-Ad-9287

Back then, crowd control and safety regulations were nonexistent. People could be packed like sardines.


Terran_it_up

Exactly, the 1950 WC final had nearly 200,000 people in a stadium that now holds 78k


GRI23

I mean who can though? Unless City rent out Wembley for a league match and bus in a capacity crowd they aren't beating that number. Teams like Rangers and Celtic used to get 100k crowds and the FA Cup final has been attended by crowds so big that the crowd extended all the way to the white lines of the pitch.


MP98n

Our record attendance is 118,000 against Celtic at Ibrox in 1939. Going down the SPFL member clubs by record attendance, you get to 31st place (out of 42) and Forfar Atheltic before you find a club that set its record attendance after the 60s. It really is pointless trotting out stats from before the all-seated era of stadiums.


essjay2009

And they still don’t look great for them.


Tulum702

Southampton are about 97% attendance of their peak attendance for a random game vs City whereas City are at 64% max.


MountainJuice

64% with about £10 tickets and begging people to come to games.


Frogblood

Yeah they're not even being criticised for their top attendance, its their average attendance (or their attendance in less glamorous ties) that's being commented on.


OtomeView

Against a ground not nearly as big as theirs lmao


spitfiremk1a

By bashing other team. Are they really that petty


april9th

How rattled are they that they're citing attendance from the nineteen thirties back when tickets were next to nothing and you basically packed the terraces to the absolute limit and then some lmao. Chelsea got just over 100,000 for Dynamo Moscow right after the end of WWII... would be insane for us to be wheeling this out when playing other clubs like it wasn't barely in our grandparents lifetimes.


RodDryfist

100000 in Stamford Bridge sounds insane.. blows my mind stuff like this how rammed it must have been


Impossible_Pen_9459

Absolutely no ealf and safety for that back in the day. You actually see stuff a bit like this at times in lower league ground which still have terraces for play offs and big fa cup ties. Not like it was cos there are fairly tough limits on it but back then fucking hell


l453rl453r

proper football


edi12334

Game s gone


spannermagnet

Dog track meant it was a lot bigger back in the day.


Nerverek

That's why no one, except City fans, ever gives a shit when City win the league


DaddyMeUp

By saying that, some City fans will claim that you're obsessed and clearly care about them.


spitfiremk1a

Thats why they are investing. When the other team title records are reached as they fast forward it they hope they would care and actually become “big”. It’s a sad state of football as a game.


spitfiremk1a

Dumbest thing since video scarves?


tdurdenftw

Ootl, What video scarves?


BreadCouponsForAll

Worst part is that their largest home attendance vs Southampton isn’t even close to the max Capacity of the Ethiad. They’re basically advertising that they can’t fill their stadium.


zts105

The bar graph comparison vs Southampton is cringe.


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Alphapx

I would argue that the first stat counting fans who are probably all dead by now is worse


CentristIdiot

Especially their record being set almost 100 years ago 😂


R961ROP

100 years ago when you literally sardined people in and the gates opened at half time letting floods of people in for free


Differ_cr

Bringing up a record from 1934 💀


afito

wouldn't really see a German club doing that tbh


CoochieSnotSlurper

Took me a minute


Rico_stats

Yeah to show you geniuses they have history.


donfelicedon2

City are so insecure about their attendance it's honestly embarrassing


thepeetmix

They're a very insecure club in general. Same when people mentioned their spending in the past and they had to bust out the "well other clubs have a higher record transfer fee than us. "


SidJag

Or the ‘Grealish cost 60M’ literal quote from Pep, because that’s how finance works … Allison, VvD, Fabinho cost LFC zero by his logic


Exotic_Research_940

I mean their objective is PR above all else, that's why they bought the club. So it makes sense they would want to change the narrative about they not having fans.


in_pizza_we_trust

This is the opposite way to do it. A good way is to bring in more fans lol.


Tim-Sanchez

Yeah all they're doing is keeping this in the news cycle, the only slightly good thing is people might be discovering how cheap Man City tickets are.


Qurutin

Yeah it got me thinking if I ever happen to be in England I could go and watch City match because tickets are cheap and easily available. That's some good PR, but then the bloke from their supporters club went on to say they don't want tourists so I guess it's even in the end.


lucashoodfromthehood

>then the bloke from their supporters club went on to say they don't want tourists so I guess it's even in the end. What a welcoming person. Guy's so proud of empty seats during a champions league match.


Jetzu

Yeah, next time I'm in Liverpool and City plays at home I'm definitely going, lol


superdago

They don’t actually care about the fans in the stadium though. They just want people around the world to think they’re an actual football club and not an attempt to whitewash the image of an abusive nation state.


SamsungHeir

What I don't understand is with that in mind why isn't City poaching stars from South America, Africa and Asia more, especially Asia, if they want a worldwide fanbase. Their entire squad is European, bar Mahrez and a couple Brazillians


antbaby_machetesquad

You can't blame the owners for being confused- usually they just torture people until they accept they're wrong and/or 'disappear' them if they don't.


Aarondo99

Well being able to buy CL tickets on Groupon clearly means that isn’t working either


gnorrn

TIL Groupon still exists.


hornpub1818

Lmao that can't be real.


Aarondo99

I was half taking the piss, but I believe they were actually selling tickets to the Leipzig game on Wowcher


VinceRussoShoots

Trying to change the narrative about them not having fans just further highlights the fact that they don't have many fans


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VeryBadflower

getting eclipsed by the rest of the Top 6 and then some, as well


good_udichi

I would not be surprised if they start giving money for attending the match


Exotic_Research_940

I checked their website and the price for a ticket right next to the pitch is pretty cheap.


F0rsythian

Probably because you cant see anything behind the 2-tier advertising screens


Cahootie

IIRC Qatar did that when they hosted the handball world championship.


sonicandfffan

I’m not sure it’s good PR though, most Corporate PR seems to emphasise reducing plastic rather than bragging about how much of it turns up on match days.


badmanbernard

You're wrong in that PR is the main reason they're doing this, football fans wish "sportswashing" was that shallow, but in 20 years we'll see the real effects of how bad it truly is But as a city fan this is fucking embarrassingly cringey, this whole thing from pep to the fans has been a shambles. On one hand it's "our fans aren't plastic", now we're trying to advertise how many new fans we have. Who even give a fuck


Joshvir262

They have taken the memes personally


artie_fresh

Insecure about everything not just attendance.


DrMantis_T

>sportswashing owners, care about their image


jvdarko

i feel bad for their fans tbh. except for the guy on tv


ryanedwards0101

Actual old school city fans are good people, and my dad talks about how good their club was for LGBT stuff back in the day. Quite sad to see them owned by a country where that’s not even legal


Grouchy_Being_3396

Nah I'm enjoying it...


BeeHalo

Damn they are insecure


Uptons_BJs

Don't most kids learn this kind of thing by 3rd grade? If you act bothered by something, people will bully you more. If you act like you're not bothered, the bullies get bored and move on! Emptyhad jokes have been going on for years, and quite honesty, half the league has some difficulty selling tickets sometime. But Pep provoked this recent media cycle by commenting on it


TaeKurmulti

It's unbelievable that people go their whole lives and never figure this out.


Grouchy_Being_3396

Thanks bald fraud for giving us this drama.


Mental_Rooster4455

When you’re a club that’s won less european cups than Wes Brown and less trophies overall than Ryan Giggs, you can understand where the insecurity comes from tbf


fookinlegend3

Fewer


Lannisbro

Stannis Baratheon moment


Seanige

I've never even heard of Wes Fewer.


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BeeHalo

I dont get it why not just embrace it and pay it no mind lmao


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grchelp2018

I don't understand how insecurity like this exists on an organisational level. What are the higher ups thinking.


Drews1738

Tinpot esque LOL


Joshvir262

The power of the memes


Exotic_Research_940

Oh dear this is pathetic.


VinceRussoShoots

The most pathetic part is the highest attendance against each other comparison. Yeah the reason why Southampton only had 31882 fans against yous is because Saint Mary's has a capacity of 32000 fans. Mumble rappers could spit out more logical bars than that bar chart


AbsolutShite

>Lower Capacity >You fuckers harassing me >Smaller Stadium >Fans - can't be containin'em > Fuck you City > You own slaves, that's shitty Should I start a Soundcloud?


ScottStorch

Pull up in the gold Bugatti Slaves in the back, yeah, Im Emirati Pep, out of my hands he eat (eat) Im in the stadium, all I can see is empty seats (seats) We got that net spend on fleek (fleek) We rapin this league like Benjamin Mendy (Mendy) My main bitch fly, she decked out in that Fendi (Fendi) Levy and I got beef like wendy (Wendy)


Mr_Hendrix

The extremely tone deaf bar is perfect and just like so many rappers


East_Wind17

Next album when?


LALLANAAAAAA

>We rapin this league like Benjamin Mendy (Mendy) Jesus wept too soon


minkdraggingonfloor

That line drops in a real song and it's just over lol song of the year. I'm sure Drake is taking notes.


ScottStorch

I would chop off one of my bollocks to be on the Drake ghostwriter team


Fernweh26

Their club is so desperate, it's absolutely hilarious.


Tim-Sanchez

It's really weird, they need to stop giving fuel to this news story. Both Pep and the supporters group could just stop bringing up attendance and it would stop being news, and now they have a feature in their programme?


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Tim-Sanchez

I wouldn't be surprised if this feature quietly disappears once they play a team that actually has bigger attendances than them


MajorTomintheTinCan

When they playing United 😂😂


yaipu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect >The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet.


English_Misfit

🎶you're insecure don't know what for🎶


PopeFuchsYoungKidd

Taking tinpot to a whole new level.


LatestArrival

Good to know they’re not wasting the oil money though, it’s clearly being spent on a behind the scenes tinpot research lab as well as on playing and coaching and all that


thehumangoomba

So, are they gonna show a comparison between them and United at the derby, then?


dhillonaire

Hope we show that comparison lmao


brian_d3p0

Fun fact: The league record for attendance was United vs Arsenal at 83,260 attendant in 1948 at Maine Road while United were playing their home games there due to the damage Old Trafford had received during WWII.


NateShaw92

Was the rebuilt old trafford smaller than Maine Road back then or did you guys just sardine people in more? Because otherwise I'd expect everyone to have stupid large crowds in the olden days.


VeryBadflower

pretty sure it was just sardine'ing em in. stadiums were basically all standing back in the day so it was just a matter of selling the most tickets and cramming em in.


NateShaw92

Cool. Thanks. I wonder why Southampton don't have stupid highs. I know Chelsea does at the ol' bridge.


april9th

The Dell was a very interesting design but very small. Stamford Bridge's first life as an athletics track means its stands were much broader and lower, making them not Spion Kops per se but gave them the ability to pack a ton in. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/16073/production/_115372209_shutterstock_editorial_946931a.jpg You can see there what I mean, the sort of unbroken sweep of stands meant you just had a sea of people that you didn't get at boxier stadiums. That's a shot from the Dynamo Moscow game that has an unofficial figure of around 100k in attendance, and it looks it.


Noxu777

Wow, a few of them are literally on the pitch there. Mental


twistingmemelonman

Yeah like the record attendance at Old Trafford is wolves v grimsby


Aaxxo

Souless. What's next, printing sales targets?


Mundaneinanities

Sweaty "I'm not owned" energy.


spiderbabyinapram

As they slowly shrink and turn into a corncob


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PeteZagarine

I needed this laugh today


Powerjugs

Fuck me, that's pathetic


Bumi_Earth_King

My god, I'm absolutely loving this. I hope they keep going on about this. It's hilarious.


Hoodxd

Club with bigger stadium has more attendance. What about the percentage tho, because i could see alot of empty seats on the disallowed goal


TheLittleGinge

Fucking Christ... Are we living in a simulation? This is beyond pathetic.


Mental_Rooster4455

They’ve been the dominant force for half a decade and have still won less trophies than Scholes and Giggs. Let em have this one lol


cech_the_replay

City are just embarrassing themselves at this point, it was just rival fans having a laugh but now they’ve made it even worse for themselves


LomaSpeedling

Honestly you all could just spend 90 minutes singing about the emptihad next time you play. This is hilarious stuff from city.


VeryBadflower

they've basically told everyone this is what to use as banter lmao


jimbocalvo

The lady doth protest too much, methinks


FingerBlaster20

Tin pot club.


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City fans, I am genuinely curious as to how you all feel about this feature and news story in general?


spiderbabyinapram

He'll be here in a minute


zkh77

He can’t be expected to be in multiple comments threads mate


Jellyfish_McSaveloy

/u/devineman


I_always_rated_them

It's been sooo long.


crookedparadigm

I don't believe for a second that he hard quit Reddit. Probably just made a new account. But if I'm wrong, damn that's some impressive willpower.


Jellyfish_McSaveloy

Nah he probably has left. If he thought discussions were shit 6 years ago he'd have an aneurysm now. This place is just for shit posting these days.


crookedparadigm

You make a fair point.


I_always_rated_them

It's not so much that the quality has gone downhill since then but rather that the volume of shit has shot through the roof.


BHYT61

Is this to prove they have fans or is this something they regularly do? Sorry but yikes, it really looks pathetic


MysteryTempest

It's a new feature. Which means they started doing it because people were laughing at them for not having fans. The bloke who writes it will conveniently take a day off when they play someone with a bigger stadium.


jamiew0w

> The bloke who writes it will conveniently take a day off when they play someone with a bigger stadium. the clever play would be to swap it to percentage filled on that day so they can both say 100%.


MysteryTempest

This is especially easy to do if you limit your comparisons to last year's fixture (after all, it's a more recent and therefore more relevant statistic). City filled their stadium to 100% of the legal capacity in every single game! And this year, they'll have even more fans than that!\*


UltimateG94

Small club mentality


xyzzy321

Small club ~~mentality~~


Mental_Rooster4455

All these years of dominance and there are still pundits on TV with more trophies than their entire club


lodewijk_vdb

Small peepee energy


VinceRussoShoots

Lmao what an embarrassment of a football club


Squm9

OUR STADIUM ONLY HOLD’S 32K LMAOOOO And the dell only held 18’000 wtaf 😂


Massive_Bereavement

Let's compare the population of Russia with the population of Switzerland and present it in a bar graph so we can learn absolutely nothing. This is such a strange comparison.


WalaLlama5

Embarrassing


H_R_1

Unbelievably tinpot


BadCogs

They will soon post interviews with fans that can't make it, showing how though it is to do.


yyzable

The tiniest of clubs.


sttos1_4

Maybe include a graph showing how many human rights abuses the Southampton owners have committed compared to city’s. That would be a cool regular feature.


si4ci7

This can’t be real


hyperactiv3hedgehog

meanwhile villa fans are highlighting their attendance figures with the sound they're making in the stadium


RioBeckenbauer

Haha the Division 2 Champions attendance figures just seems so petty. It must be strange for Pep to work at a club that can't fill their stadium after working at Barcelona and Bayern.


abominable_bingus

City hierarchy: Yea so strange so strange....here is another £300 million to spend on fullbacks now shut the fuck up lol.


derpferd

Marvelously daft. Would have done better to ignore it and move on. Rivals will gleefully pounce on this now


FederalManner28

this is hilarious


MH18Foot

Small club mindset


lejoo

So we bought the team, bought all the players, but why aren't people coming to watch us? It is pretty funny ngl, wonder when they will actually just doing paid attendance


dema-dontcontrol-us

They're a meme at this point


MigueelDnd

Haha proper tinpot this club, citing pre-war figures.


mustardman2121

The most embarrassing club in England


Notorious_horse

Man City are the football club equivalent of small man syndrome


hasandiker

Small club mentality


wpmk

Embarrassing.


Scofield442

I honestly thought this couldn't get my embarrassing. I was so wrong.


spiderbabyinapram

What's the point in winning all the trophies if you're not *happy*?


Red_Brummy

Ahahaha. This is the gift that keeps on giving. City Pepping it up against Saints and Pep is so, so happy that the stadium was 2/3 full.


JonnyArtois

That is hilariously pathetic.


somuchvictory

The kings of cringe


etan1122

Desperate for people’s approval.. will never be a top club


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St. Mary's has a capacity of 32k you fucking protoplasmic supine jellies.


Infinite-Formal-820

is he sure its new because only he said it


Stravven

Well, one club may have a bigger stadium and thus a bigger record crowd. Not to mention that this just looks very bad, especially after whatever today was.


Definitelynotputin_2

Proper Lib Dem bar chart vibes this.


SaltineFiend

Pep: can we have fans? Sheikh Mansour: we have fans at home Fans at home:


bbydonthurtme4667

The empithad and no fans banter is so overdone, but fuck are they actually insecure


OtomeView

They made emptihad relevant again that's how peak it is


_Micolash_Cage_

The fact that they're this insecure about it, is why it's still funny.


yaipu

small dick energy


xXBrajkXx

Why are we doing this shit


Feeling_Temporary_51

A billion dollar football club being insecure and making marketing decisions based on what football fans say on social media... you love to see it.


marko1908

More fans than Southampton. Well done?


NateShaw92

Funny how it is only highest, not averages or percentages ot anything. So most of the time the comparison is just "who has the highest capacity ground? Nyuuurgh." Even more silly when you include different eras. How did Maine Road fit 80000? I know they stood and were not seated? Was it safe? Were football games back then crazy crowded?


guiseppifirmani

This is very “I’m totally fine” vibes


Zidlicky3

Oh, Pep please... come back from that soulless club.


spitfiremk1a

Wonder if [these guys](https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/lightbox_large/public/images/news/xmanchester-city-fans-influencers-987x987pngpagespeedictyjwdkhrmg.jpg?itok=Zaljcf2-) came up with the idea