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Wyden calls on Mt. Bachelor to scrap new 'Fast Tracks' pass, raises equity concerns

Wyden calls on Mt. Bachelor to scrap new 'Fast Tracks' pass, raises equity concerns

hamernaut

Here's the solution. We just set up a "fast tracks" line, but it leads straight to a guillotine.


Casual_1993

Yeah this is bullshit. They sell the x amount of passes a day for a total number of added revenue like 1000$ for seasons pass isn’t enough already. No way to regulate when and who gets the pass each day. All around just seems like a total greedy capitalist move. You want fresh turns get up early or work for them like the rest of us. This isn’t a theme park it’s a recreation sport/hobby.


95tacoma

Yeah plus throw in that bachelor is on public land and is not privately owned. Letting the rich have more access is total BS


Casual_1993

I signed it and sent it a bunch of homies! Eat the rich!


95tacoma

Appreciate it! Happy shredding this season 🤘🏽


Casual_1993

You too big dog!


RYouNotEntertained

🙄 Hate to break this to everyone ITT intent on throwing off the yolk of capitalism by, uh, not riding an early lift, but snowboarding is a luxury sport.


Mundane-Ad-6874

Totally agree. However, Steamboat has first tracks. you pay to use the lift and hour before official opening. It’s the bees knees on a powder day.


hamernaut

Then that also sucks. We need to take a stand against all of this bullshit. It's time for people to fight back against the corporations.


95tacoma

Like two years ago bachelor used to do this on weekends but it was for season pass holders only and it was on one lift. It was still super nice. You could go up and get some laps in before the rest of the mountain opened so when the other lifts were spinning you were warmed up and ready to rip.


ThePineal

Winter park had first track private lessons where you could go up an hour early. Make friends enough with the instructor they might wave the fee. Either way you split it with 6 of your buddies and enjoy the ride


fookinmoonboy

I like how you blame capitalism but the state artificially suppresses the supply of mountain resorts lol


Casual_1993

Elaborate.


fookinmoonboy

The state decides which mountains can become resorts, if there is a lack of supply than the there’s less choices for everyone. Downvotes don’t mean shit to me, I’m sick of the idiotic leftist takes on economics.


saysay541

This is why I love Oregon


baksideDisaster

I grew up riding Bachelor, was passholder 1986-1994. My folks live down there so I usually ride about 5-10 days a season there usually around holidays and spring break. I used to take advantage of multi-day tickets, pre-season sales. I now have a family so riding around the holidays was already pretty expensive for the three of us. Now, they have completely priced me out. $169 weekend/holiday ticket is fawcking outrageous, but adding an additional $50 so the elite can snake me is the final straw. Can't tell you how frustrated I would be on a pow day getting snaked all day. After over 35+ years of riding Bachelor I'm out! I'll be riding Hoodoo instead when I come down to Bend to visit family. That $299 any day pass is looking pretty sweet right now. \#boycottmtbachelor !!!!


95tacoma

Yeah it’s pretty bad. I’ve lived in bend for 8 years and when I first moved here a day pass was $70 and even cheaper in the spring. It’s gotten outrageous and with the massive influx of people moving here and making just about everything extremely expensive now many long time locals are having to leave. This move by bachelor sends a loud message that if you are a local and don’t have fuck tons of money to throw at them don’t ride here. Real slap in the face as there are many people here who have supported this mountain through thick and thin for decades.


RYouNotEntertained

Yeah man, $169 for a day pass is for the humble working man. It’s the extra $50 that makes someone part of the elite.


95tacoma

If you haven’t already please sign the petition here to keep the momentum going on this and help us to get rid of this BS! https://www.change.org/p/force-mt-bachelor-and-pwdr-corp-to-cease-and-desist-fast-passes


snowfuckerforreal

I signed, donated money and sent it around to all my homies. This year my mountain raised pass prices, implemented paid parking and we’re afraid this fast track bull shit might be next. I love bachelor! I’m in this fight with you guys!


95tacoma

Appreciate it!! We all have to stick together with these greedy resorts pushing us around.


prairiechickenz

First Ikon, now this. Rough couple of years at Bachelor, goddamn.


95tacoma

Yeah ikon was a straight kick in the balls. It destroyed our lines last year. Bachelor used to have maybe a few holidays that it would get busy. Last year it was hour or more long lines consistently from Christmas to March.


prairiechickenz

Had no idea Seattle ski week was a thing until last February. Longest lift line I've ever seen there was at the bottom of Outback on a Wednesday last Feb. Thanks Ikon.


95tacoma

I remember those February lift lines. They were brutal. 2+ hour wait. Chair running on half speed and only loading two to a chair. One of the days there was super bad lines everyone started a snowball fight and some lift got super pissed at everyone and said the next person to throw snowballs he was pulling their pass. Then everyone kept doing it anyway. Lol


robparadis

And what happens once the fast pass is sold out? Just fuck us regulars I guess.


95tacoma

Exactly. So either buy it or get stuck watching as the rich kooks lap you all day. Would be absolutely maddening on a super busy powder day


biggletits

Look, I get it’s annoying but I really don’t see this as a massive issue. This has been around for like 15-20 years in CO and it really doesn’t make things worse, a few people cut the line, you wait an extra minute or two, and then you’re off. People here talking like it’s rich people forcing them to spend hours a day extra in line. Blowing snow is expensive af and is only going to get worse with rising energy costs. if you want your mountain to exist in 5 years with the way the climate is changing you might as well get used to it. $1k for a single mountain season pass is fucked though, I’ll fully agree with that


95tacoma

Yeah that’s Colorado. It’s been known that that’s where the rich and elite go to ski and snowboard. Generally not how we do things here in the PNW. Bachelor doesn’t even have a hotel or anything at the resort. It’s a very bare bones resort with no frills about it. People go there to ski and snowboard and that’s about it. We don’t need or want all the fancy shit here. If the rich want a place they can go and not have to wait in line like everyone else sounds like they have plenty of options in Colorado and can probably stay slope side there.


_off_piste_

The option already exists and has for as long as I’ve been riding. Saw it first-hand when I worked a couple years at a resort. If you have the money just pay for a private ski instructor and you move right to the front of the line.


Somethingsomeone1234

I think the argument at hand is that it’s not private land but actual public land on loan for the public to use. Therefore, it’s not right to create a divide in social class where the rich are able to enjoy the land more than the poor since it’s meant for ALL of the public regardless of social status. They can do that if they own the land but they are borrowing it from the public so it’s not their place to do so.


Itchy_Cartographer78

It’s already dividing classes between those who can afford a normal day pass and those who cannot. What they are doing here is the exact same ethics. Case A: provide a service for people who pay $200 and don’t provide it to people who pay $100 Case B: provide a service for people who pay $100 and dont provide it to people who pay $0


Somethingsomeone1234

Not the same ethics at all actually. Realistically speaking, you will always have to pay a fee to use the land (I.e National Parks, State Parks, etc) and this fee is meant to help recoup the cost of operations (pay for staff, cleaning, maintenance, etc). However, it’s an understanding that this is where it ends. Everyone pays the same fee with the exception of children, military, veterans and seniors. However, introducing the idea that you can enjoy more of the land or have special access to it because you are richer and can afford more is something else entirely. It’s like saying if you pay $25 more, you can have access to first camp site reservations and then we will let others book the leftovers or for $25 more we will let you enjoy access to this exclusive hiking trail so that you don’t have to hike with the crowds. While that works for private companies like Disneyland since they own the land, it’s not the same with public land (which you actually pay for with part of your tax money by the way).


Itchy_Cartographer78

Great point about the public land. With that in mind the issue seems to be that we’re expecting a for profit corporation to provide the same style of services on public land. Is the corporation leasing the land or using it for free?


Itchy_Cartographer78

Now that I think more, even if they are leasing the land for $0 (and the government is getting benefit via tax revenue), that makes them Disneyland, not the national park service


ashimo414141

It works in one place. As a rider I hope you understand how significantly different states and resorts operate. This would make the sport even more intimidating and inaccessible financially and otherwise than it already is. It works in CO, but spreading that elsewhere on that notion is a dangerous precedent to set and could easily lead to other resorts becoming money driven rather than passion driven


nativeroots2019

So is it just a pass you can buy to go up the lifts before everyone else. Almost all resorts in Colorado have this?


warmhandluke

Just because other places do it doesn't make it not lame.


manescaped

I understand that I have to pay to play. Snowboarding is a privilege and it has a cost. But I would prefer if more of my money is invested in environmental remediation and not the pockets of some private investor.


95tacoma

No this allows you to cut the lift line all day long at basically any lift on bachelor. It’s especially frustrating because we pay $1,000 for a season pass that only works at one resort and day tickets can run you up to $169 and then you’ll have rich people cutting you all day long even after paying for all of that unless you wanna pay another $49+ per day.


nativeroots2019

Dang thats a little different than going up the lifts 30 minutes before everyone else. Honestly though if you know your mountain you will know where to go once the main runs gets tracked out. The ikon pass is like 700 to 1000 but it's good at a ton of mountains.


ask_jeeves

You don't know Mt Bachelor


ashimo414141

That’s very sad, I didn’t know that about Colorado. This is not Disney world and it’s already and expensive sport. One of my favorite things to do is to introduce people to it. What a shame it would be to prevent even more people from potentially finding their passion because greed and superiority made it even more inaccessible.


fookinmoonboy

It’s nice not being broke


Main_Investigator_80

Fuck I wish we could do this at Meadows, last year was unbearable. I've been going there for 12 years now and Bachelor for the 10 prior to that and the resorts just have too much fucking demand to be fun anymore. I'm not even rich but I would definitely pay whatever the cost to skip the line on good days.


nuisanceIV

Seeing the amount of line cutters I find on pow days… probably lot of people who would do whatever to skip line


drinkelectro

It's sad to watch the entire ski industries across the nation get more and more greedy over time. Charging more yet you get less runs on the mountain because of increased wait times


unimportantdetail22

Pretty standard at resorts these days (Vail and KSL been doing this for years); good luck though