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Question about isopropyl alcohol extract.

Question about isopropyl alcohol extract.

peanut0807

So I made this extract with around 20 pods and 300ml of isopropyl alcohol. Does anyone know how long I should leave it to extract the maximum amount of alkaloids? I shake it up a couple times a day.


Julz540159

few hours should be plenty


peanut0807

Ok sounds good


Wish_Capital

I gotta say this just to help.. Your gonna end up with Goo.. How are you gonna cram goo in a capsule? Im just saying!! You can evap it to dust but just get goo.. WHY? DOC is gonna tell you.. The solvent you are using is gonna reduce fats and oils too.. Gooo!! LOL ya so its smells cool.. NO bro.. Everything you want is water soluble .. Trust DOC.. He knows.. Your probably already there but you got a licorice smelling sticky Greenish black sludge.., If I am Rite DM me.. I will help you.. If not .. Teach me my MASTER! lol There is an easy fix that will convert your raw mash into a much stronger pleasant compound.. DOC


Gsham02

Would acetone be a good polar organic solvent? It’s volatile so it’ll evaporate quickly and is, as far as I know, miscible with acetic A.


Wish_Capital

I mean ya Its ok.. I believe on the dielectric constant scale its 4th. with a 5:1.. It can be used.. In fact polish H is made with it and ammonia water;; So absolutely... Great comment!!!


Wish_Capital

Ya.... Ummmm why did you use isopropanol? What you wanna do is use slightly acidic and almost anhydrous Ethanol .. See even if you recycle some of that solvent its still gonna be toxic.. It forms an azeotrope with water and soaks into the fat and proteins . So even with extensive evaporation your still gonna have a toxic product somewhat.. What would DOC do? Glad you asked!! I would throw that.. I Mean HE would throw that in a rotovap and recycle the ISO.. Then I would rehydrate the mix with DW ( distilled water ) Get about a quart in there.. Then add a quart of acetic anhydride.. Barely boil that crap all night.. In the morning and as its cooling to room temp. Stir in some soda ash (sodium carbonate) not Baking soda.. You can throw the B soda in a pan and boil the bubbles out.. Same thing,, LOL .. As you slowly approach basic around 7 or 8 ph.. It will start to snow and precipitate will crash out.. Congratulations you just took morphine and acetylated it into Diacetyl Morphine.. Now its 10 to 15 times more potent.. Scoop it up and enjoy.. Do not consume Isopropanol.. It will BLIND you... ... ... MCG aka the wizz..


peanut0807

Don't you need an acid catalyst for esterification and I also think you want to keep the concentration of water as low as possible and of the acetic acid as high as possible to shift the equilibrium to the products (diamorphin) side. So I don't get why you would add a quart of water


Wish_Capital

Thats a fair assumption but for this example I need a polar solvent.. Well water is the best I know of.. Also its not acetic acid.. Well Kind of..acetic anhydride anyway.. Acetylation of the base to D morph. Has always been done like this.. I have tried many different methods but as far as reaction and yield that has been the best.. The cartels in mexico skip a few steps and get that dirty tar crap.. I do not.. Sad thing is It all gets disposed of.. Lots of work just so we can eject it as lab waste just for a bunch of data.. Sad really...


AtenderhistoryinrusT

Is ethanol a bad idea, food safe and evaporates faster than water


Wish_Capital

Ya but your gonna pull out everything and have an oily goo that looks like a bat pooping diarrhea..Lol.. Wait. LOL OK whew that was funny.. Anyway sure If you are prepared for fractional chromatography then GO for it. HOWEVER all the goodies you want are water soluble... There are ways to dry water fast. Ask and thou shalt know!!


twomuchjuice

Anything over 3 hours and you begin to break down plant material and it will taste terrible


tp420dmt

That's gonna be some good stuff. Enjoy!


TheeJimmyHoffa

You will be evaporating the isopropyl right. And what method will you use?


peanut0807

Do you mean how I will consume it?


TheeJimmyHoffa

Yes


peanut0807

I'm going to pit it in capsules and swallow it. I've always consumed opioids orally so that's what I'm most comfortable with


TheeJimmyHoffa

You’ll be evaporating the iso making a type of ‘O’. Just curious might try this method. Change up from pod tea.