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Randi Weingarten Rips CRT Critics for ‘Trying to Stop Us From Teaching Students Accurate History’

Randi Weingarten Rips CRT Critics for ‘Trying to Stop Us From Teaching Students Accurate History’

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huge_eyes

What’s so absurd to me about all this is public schools don’t actually teach you much of anything about American history, and I went to school in a wonderful school district with teachers that gave a shit. It’s just a giant day care.


Dcajunpimp

MAGATourrorist snowflakes don't like accurate history. And their new normal of, 'The kids need schools... Reopen the schools....' didn't last long once mask mandates dropped. Now they are back to whining that 'schools are socialist indoctrination centers...' '...teaching kids to be gay', '...athiests' , '... socialists' , '.... CRT' How long until they start promoting and pushing homeschooling again?


ima_thankin_ya

To quote from a literature review called ***critical race theory in education***, written in 2015): >Thus, to undertake this review, journal articles, books, and book chapters that included education and CRT were examined. We found that CRT in education literature can be divided into two subgenres: K-12 education issues and higher education. While we could not include the universe of texts in this review, we highlight articles post-2005-2006,1which we found to be representative of emergent themes we encountered in the literature. In the area of K-12, we found that articles generally address the following themes: (a) curriculum and pedagogy, (b) teaching and learning, (c) schooling, and (d) policy/finance and community engagement.... >we examine the practical developments within Critical Race Pedagogy (CRP; Lynn, 1999, 2004; Solorzano & Delgado Bernal, 2001; Solorzano & Yosso, 2001, 2002; Yosso, Parker, Solorzano, & Lynn, 2004). In addition, we acknowledge that much of this pedagogical work is indebted to the pioneering work of Derrick Bell (2008a) whose pedagogical use of race hypos in legal education underscores much of this work... >How do educators enact, perform, or use CRP? Following feminists of color work that maintains our insights must be achieved (Calderón, Delgado Bernal, Pérez Huber, Malagón, & Vélez, 2012), CRP must likewise engage experiential knowledge in a critical manner. That is, experiential knowledge cannot be used without a pedagogical framing of the racialized contexts that give rise to experience. This work has developed from teaching in the classroom and a sustained engagement with both the scholarship produced by Critical Race Theorists in education and epistemological engagements in education (Cajete, 1994; Delgado Bernal, 1998; Deloria & Wildcat, 2001). It relies both on case method and Derrick Bell’s race hypos to explore the role of race and racism across a spectrum of curriculums to encourage students to reflect on what is in CRT counterstorytelling, mindful of Ladson-Billing’s (2005) cautionary words... >Both student and teacher counternarratives are contextualized within particular experiences that critically examine what it means to bring nondominant voices into classrooms, an essential component of CRT. In a sense, this work echoes James Banks’ caution in employing multicultural approaches: It is simply not enough to use diverse counternarratives to disrupt dominant pedagogies. These diverse counternarratives must begin with the lives of the oppressed as these are the voices traditionally excluded from dominant pedagogies... >Alternatively, CRP is also useful for White students. Matias’ (2013) work offers us tools as CR educators working with majority White students or students of color that might embody majoritarian narratives regarding their own communities and other communities of color. ***For Matias, this demands a “process of re-educating Whites via raced curriculum from which they begin a renewed process of identity development”*** This last part is the indoctrination people are worried about.


hangoverDOTTED

In other words, "the civil war was not about states rights. My god. How dense are you mother fuckers?"


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hangoverDOTTED

Ummm... Did you miss the whole "states rights" thing?


ima_thankin_ya

No, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


hangoverDOTTED

Aw, man. You've got a whole racist rabbit hole to go down if you don't know how whiteness and the civil war are related.


Cuneiform_scribbles

And that last bit, as well as bits before, should give every rational person cause to doubt CRT. I do NOT need to renew my identity development, especially if it has to do with skin color, which is an entirely superficial (literally) category of difference. Anyone who tries to convince me that skin color is important gets labeled 'racist' in my mind.


walksthiswalk

Absolutely. They can leave that shit for the people that make every part of their lives, every part of history, and every part of their future about race and how their application of it in projection regulates their serotonin levels in accordance to their racist tendencies.


walksthiswalk

Partially. Another major part, is that by reading relevant literature, such as The 1619 Project, it becomes infinitely clear that the goal of the piece isn't merely to "educate on history", but to ultimately lift one party up over the other at present. Education doesn't need or ask for a call for that manipulative behavior. We've survived quite well without signaling for and against our clearly defined party system. Liberalism has absolutely infested the education system, and there's no evidence that it's been a positive improvement, whatsoever. It's hilarious to watch people say "it doesn't exist" and "I guess Republicans don't like the truth and don't want children to be aducated mmkay" at the same time. Absolute fools.


Real_Zhious

My mother asked to teach my kids, after saying CRT was teaching them sex. She's a Q and I feel like Q is training them to be pedophiles. All she talks about is pedophiles


Fluffy-Anybody-4887

Actually, by me they cried they wouldn't care about masks as long as they got back in school full time last year. Only to lie through their teeth and show their true colors here that they want to fight any form of mask mandate or requirements for any grade level because now they want that gone. They are making so many false claims about how masks are harmful, and just all sorts of blatant lies to get their way, including making threats to the school board even after the board made masks optional. They are still fighting this because they are afraid masks will end up mandated after all and are trying to convince every parent to show up first day without masks for their kids if they change their mind about what needs to happen. All while still fighting and sharing false info about culturally responsive teaching, claiming it's exactly the same as critical race theory, since they have the same acronym.


hwkns

It should be interesting as some of the teachers will surely do, to openly defy the law. There are going to be a whole lot chickens coming home to roost on this. Will we have to expect political police to set up a booth next to the one with the heavily armed protection office? Wait until private historical truth social clubs start popping up to educate the public outside of the system.


Steve_Harvey_0swald

This headline infers we are teaching CRT in primary schools. It muddies the water and helps build the propagandist’s false narrative.


oldnjgal

Well, she’s not wrong.


Steve_Harvey_0swald

However, CRT IS STILL NOT TAUGHT IN ANY FORM DURING PRIMARY EDUCATION GRADES 1-12.


oldnjgal

The actual CRT curriculum guide may not be used, but I can assure you elements of it have been taught in some states.


Steve_Harvey_0swald

I’m not trying to be argumentative, but the Republican concept that we are teaching CRT in any form anywhere outside of college level and post-secondary courses is just as honest as the annual war on Christmas. It’s a rope-a-dope argument you’ve lost just by engaging in it. Are there teachers teaching black history? Absolutely, but that’s not CRT - it’s just history.


ima_thankin_ya

To quote from a literature review called ***critical race theory in education***, written in 2015): >Thus, to undertake this review, journal articles, books, and book chapters that included education and CRT were examined. We found that CRT in education literature can be divided into two subgenres: K-12 education issues and higher education. While we could not include the universe of texts in this review, we highlight articles post-2005-2006,1which we found to be representative of emergent themes we encountered in the literature. In the area of K-12, we found that articles generally address the following themes: (a) curriculum and pedagogy, (b) teaching and learning, (c) schooling, and (d) policy/finance and community engagement.... >we examine the practical developments within Critical Race Pedagogy (CRP; Lynn, 1999, 2004; Solorzano & Delgado Bernal, 2001; Solorzano & Yosso, 2001, 2002; Yosso, Parker, Solorzano, & Lynn, 2004). In addition, we acknowledge that much of this pedagogical work is indebted to the pioneering work of Derrick Bell (2008a) whose pedagogical use of race hypos in legal education underscores much of this work... >How do educators enact, perform, or use CRP? Following feminists of color work that maintains our insights must be achieved (Calderón, Delgado Bernal, Pérez Huber, Malagón, & Vélez, 2012), CRP must likewise engage experiential knowledge in a critical manner. That is, experiential knowledge cannot be used without a pedagogical framing of the racialized contexts that give rise to experience. This work has developed from teaching in the classroom and a sustained engagement with both the scholarship produced by Critical Race Theorists in education and epistemological engagements in education (Cajete, 1994; Delgado Bernal, 1998; Deloria & Wildcat, 2001). It relies both on case method and Derrick Bell’s race hypos to explore the role of race and racism across a spectrum of curriculums to encourage students to reflect on what is in CRT counterstorytelling, mindful of Ladson-Billing’s (2005) cautionary words... >Both student and teacher counternarratives are contextualized within particular experiences that critically examine what it means to bring nondominant voices into classrooms, an essential component of CRT. In a sense, this work echoes James Banks’ caution in employing multicultural approaches: It is simply not enough to use diverse counternarratives to disrupt dominant pedagogies. These diverse counternarratives must begin with the lives of the oppressed as these are the voices traditionally excluded from dominant pedagogies... >Alternatively, CRP is also useful for White students. Matias’ (2013) work offers us tools as CR educators working with majority White students or students of color that might embody majoritarian narratives regarding their own communities and other communities of color. ***For Matias, this demands a “process of re-educating Whites via raced curriculum from which they begin a renewed process of identity development”***


Steve_Harvey_0swald

Okay? I guess I’m having trouble finding any substance in there. Can you tl:dr the evidence you’re trying to share with us?


ima_thankin_ya

Sure. CRT is taught in schools through critical race pedagogy (CRP), both within the curriculum and the way the teachers teach. While the basis of CRP is CRT, two specific tenets of CRT is specifically focussed on. First is the idea of dominant narrative and counter narratives as a way to counter act the dominant narrative, and the second is the omnipresence of racism, particularly whiteness or white supremacy. The more controversial aspect of of this is focussing on decentering and dismantlling whiteness. One method for them to dismantle whiteness in white students is to "re-educate" them on their white Identity. : Edit: got temp banned for being uncivil. Here is my response: A) that is irrelevant to the point that CRP is specifically influenced and derived from the tenets of CRT tenet, as they even admit to it. We are discussing if CRT is taught in schools, after all. The fact that their epistemological ideas stem from somewhere else is irrelevant since the schools derived it from CRT and not elsewhere. B)Sure, I completely agree. We should teach about white supremacy in American history, slavery, KKK, Jim Crow and red lining. What we shouldn't be teaching is that whiteness or white supremacy is the dominant narrative or hegemony today. C) While it isn't very widespread, yes, there are schools teaching this type of [nonsense] (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/should-black-lives-matter-agenda-be-taught-school/618277/) like giving up your whiteness or losing your soul. If you also read the paper that my original quote us referring to, it also explicitly lays it out in actual case studies. The study is called "Who you callin’ white?! A critical counter-story on colouring white identity" and it maps the process of two 16 year old students, once successfully losing much of her whiteness while the other not so much. I'm not saying that this defines all of critical race theory, but we are seeing these things pop up once in a while, as seen by the Atlantic article. Trying to deny it happens or say it's not CRT isn't the right response. Instead since it does clearly exist, and again, not wide spread, it is not made up either


Steve_Harvey_0swald

A.) Dominant narrative and counter-narrative is an academic way of acknowledging that history is written by the winners, a concept that people have understood for a lot longer than Africans have been in America. B.) What would American history look like without acknowledging racism and white supremacy? Can we not discuss slavery anymore, or the civil rights movement because they’ve been relabeled as CRT? The assassination of MLK? The KKK? These aren’t even theoretical concepts, they’re objective examples of race relations that deserve to be taught. C.) Dismantling whiteness wtf THIS IS NOT IN K-12 CURRICULUM. You won’t even find it in college level courses unless your sociology degree requires it or you intentionally seek it out.


The_Lonely_Satirist

This latest boogeyman, belonging to a culture that manufactures sensationalized fearmongering propaganda, rhetoric, buzz words, and a host of bizarre and deranged narratives, merely exists as another accessory to a right wing culture war that stops at nothing to perpetuate the indignation, the fury, the victimhood, fear and hate that has come to define our modern day conservatism. It's become so destructive lately due to how right wing echochambers indoctrinate their fanatics, that these parents who are showing up to local meetings are simply regurgitating what their manipulated into adopting surrounding CRT. While they lack complete comprehension, they spew vitriolic rhetoric and buzz words, claiming that even teaching our students history, whether it's of slavery, discrimination or racism, within this country's past, is emboldening Marxist teachings and Critical Race Theory. Despite the fact that CRT is rarely, if ever taught in public schools, it's now become a label that conservatives can use to categorize whatever they'd like as a movement endeavoring to "indoctrinate their children", as racism against white people. This is pure ignorance. However, it's the conservative paradigm, it's how right wing enthusiasm functions now.


TechyDad

>This latest boogeyman, belonging to a culture that manufactures sensationalized fearmongering propaganda, rhetoric, buzz words, and a host of bizarre and deranged narratives, merely exists as another accessory to a right wing culture war that stops at nothing to perpetuate the indignation, the fury, the victimhood, fear and hate that has come to define our modern day conservatism. I had a friend on mine criticize CRT because he doesn't think there's any racism in this country. Note that he's a white Christian and didn't think there was widespread antisemitism. I corrected him on both. just because you don't personally experience something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. He also complained about the new Foundation series that Apple TV+ is releasing. We're both Isaac Asimov fans but he was horrified by the trailer because a few characters were being played by black people or were gender swapped to be women. Now, the book never really (to my memory) stated the characters' skin color and it's not important to the plot. However, he was railing against "woke casting" because those characters were previously illustrated as white men. (Likely illustrated, I should point out by a white man and definitely not by the author.) Personally, I care more about whether the plot remains accurately translated to screen and less about "does this side character's skin tone match what some illustrator drew".


upfromashes

Oh, you didn't know..? Only casting white men is neutral and apolitical. Everything else is a raging political statement.


Edward_Fingerhands

You know, I was wondering why Republicans keep going all in on the culture war stuff, despite losing it over and over, and then I realized that the reason is because they've been winning on the economic war against labor and having the culture war dominate the narrative in the media distracts everyone from that. So in a way, they're strategically losing on purpose.


dilted

Being white is their foundation. Their ultimate fear is being wiped out genetically. Every interracial mixing with white the child comes out less "white". They will destroy the country before they give up white power and with it their genetic future. This has been their rallying cry for 3 centuries. \------------------------ “From Missouri to Texas, from Wilmot through Kansas-Nebraska and Lecompton, political debates had been about whether or not slavery could expand, not whether or not the federal government would interfere with it in the states where it existed. But secessionists feared that they could not convince the non-slaveholding white southern majority to abandon the Union just to protect entrepreneurs’ access to future cotton frontiers. Instead, they proclaimed that by electing Republicans, the North had declared its commitment to “equality between the white and negro races,” as an emissary sent from the Mississippi convention told his Georgia counterparts. Not only had the Republican Party declared its goal to be abolition, but it “now demand\[s\] . . . equality in the right of suffrage, equality in the honors and emoluments of office, equality in the social circle, equality in the right of matrimony.” Not only would emancipation mean that non-planters would lose the chance to move up in the world—a chance that ownership of even one slave could represent. Worse, the everyday distinctions that gave status to all whites, especially men, would vanish. Lincoln’s victory left only one choice. Secede, or your neighbor’s field “hand” will marry your daughter . Secede, or offer up your “wives and daughters to pollution and violation to gratify the lust of half-civilized Africans.” Republican domination, the emissary concluded, meant a “saturnalia of blood,” “a war of extermination” that would lead to the destruction of the white people by “assassinations” and “amalgamation,” or rape. ​ ”Excerpt From: Edward E. Baptist. “The Half Has Never Been Told.”


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Cuneiform_scribbles

Yep, and if Dems decide to go all-in on grievance racial critiques, they'll lose. Here I am, just wanting the basics: legislative efforts to address climate change, deal with various forms of pollution, and incentivizing citizens of my country to care more about the country. But no. These regressive liberals just have to coat themselves in identitarian bullshit.


justa_hunch

What “anti-white” rhetoric are Dems tolerant of? Can you provide a source?


upfromashes

The little fear pigs won't get fattened up on fear, hate and outrage without a narrative. And if they aren't full to bursting like overfed ticks then how are they supposed to be directed, weaponized and deployed by the right wing?


jokerZwild

Republicans have no clue what CRT means except "teaching racism bad" and nothing else.


Coyote65

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Or in the case of those against teaching CRT: "Those who fail to teach history HOPE to repeat it."


The_Lone_Apple

Now they're going after not just some academic theory discussed among academics, these Republicans don't want people to know about simple facts that actually occurred.


thatattyguy

Many of these problems have at least a partial origin in the fact that just about nobody has any idea what precisely CRT's curriculum is. So critics point to its more extreme practitioners as cautionary tales of the perils re CRT, and its advocates point to innocuous examples of CRT, like teaching true history, and ask "how can anyone be against CRT when CRT teaches these historical truths all students should know about? How about we define what is, and is not, CRT? And how about we stop letting "practitioners" come up with authoritarian nonsense and then implement it into classrooms? Once we define where it begins and ends, perhaps we can discuss how we will judge its efficacy? BC this seems like throwing money and effort at the problem, but implementing an untested curriculum isn't necessarily smart if it fails to accomplish its goals. And we will never know whether or not it does unless we establish those goals. And can we stop labeling anyone who disagrees with any aspect of what is being peddled as CRT "racist?" It is an abuse of logic to position yourself so that either (1) a person agrees with your approach, or else (2) they are just a white supremacist who is afraid of the truth. Because despite what people seem to think right now, CRT isn't the only approach in town that ostensibly seeks to target racism.


shakergeek

This whole thing reminds me of the term “Global Warming”. Like… if you were a scientist that term made sense to you. If you were a layman you could interpret it anyway you want. CRT makes sense to academics. But to layman the term feels threatening in some way. Some layman I mean. Yeah that’s kinda willfully ignorant, but no surprise. How hard is it for the real experts in this to simply change their messaging. Like this lady, it’s about teaching history accurately. That’s the real message. Mostly what I see is lot ridiculous debate and no clear message. Every time “theory” is added to something the conversation goes off the rails. It’s been a long week. 😔


StillPlayingGTAV

The problem is that the left is going to waste time and energy trying to teach what CRT is and explain how it doesn’t impact K-12 education. No one on the other side cares. CRT means whatever they want it to mean and it pisses them off. MLK, Civil Rights, Civil War, Trail of Tears, Columbus ... whatever they want schools to stop teaching is CRT. It wasn’t meant to be a discussion. It was mean to be a battlefront in the culture war.


ima_thankin_ya

It's amazing how they keep flipflopping to between it not being taught in k-12, and it's trying just teaching accurate history and we should do that. Neither is true. While maybe not widespread, it is taught in k-12, and it is not even ettempting to be an accurate representation of history, and if anyone thinks so, they have no clue what critical theory is. It teaches history through the lens of group power dynamics, where the dominant group always attempts to keep their dominance at the cost of marginalized groups, actively oppressing them for white peoples own benefit. You can call it a critical view of history, but it is not trying to be honest or accurate. And for those think it's not taught in schools. You have been gaslit. They aren't teaching Derick Bell and how interest convergence and how it pertains to Brown vs Board of Education, instead they use CRT as a framework to teach. It is taught through critical race pedagogy. So the discussion shouldn't be about if it is taught, it should be where is it taught, how, and when does it go too far. From the 2015 academic literature review paper, ***critical race theory in education***: >Thus, to undertake this review, journal articles, books, and book chapters that included education and CRT were examined. ***We found that CRT in education literature can be divided into two subgenres: K-12 education issues and higher education***. While we could not include the universe of texts in this review, we highlight articles post-2005-2006,1which we found to be representative of emergent themes we encountered in the literature. ***In the area of K-12, we found that articles generally address the following themes: (a) curriculum and pedagogy, (b) teaching and learning, (c) schooling, and (d) policy/finance and community engagement***.... >we examine the practical developments within Critical Race Pedagogy (CRP; Lynn, 1999, 2004; Solorzano & Delgado Bernal, 2001; Solorzano & Yosso, 2001, 2002; Yosso, Parker, Solorzano, & Lynn, 2004). ***In addition, we acknowledge that much of this pedagogical work is indebted to the pioneering work of Derrick Bell (2008a) whose pedagogical use of race hypos in legal education underscores much of this work***... >How do educators enact, perform, or use CRP? Following feminists of color work that maintains our insights must be achieved (Calderón, Delgado Bernal, Pérez Huber, Malagón, & Vélez, 2012), CRP must likewise engage experiential knowledge in a critical manner. That is, experiential knowledge cannot be used without a pedagogical framing of the racialized contexts that give rise to experience. ***This work has developed from teaching in the classroom and a sustained engagement with both the scholarship produced by Critical Race Theorists in education and epistemological engagements in education*** (Cajete, 1994; Delgado Bernal, 1998; Deloria & Wildcat, 2001). ***It relies both on case method and Derrick Bell’s race hypos to explore the role of race and racism across a spectrum of curriculums to encourage students to reflect on what is in CRT counterstorytelling***,... >***Both student and teacher counternarratives are contextualized within particular experiences that critically examine what it means to bring nondominant voices into classrooms, an essential component of CRT***. In a sense, this work echoes James Banks’ caution in employing multicultural approaches: It is simply not enough to use diverse counternarratives to disrupt dominant pedagogies. These diverse counternarratives must begin with the lives of the oppressed as these are the voices traditionally excluded from dominant pedagogies... >Alternatively, CRP is also useful for White students. Matias’ (2013) work offers us tools as CR educators working with majority White students or students of color that might embody majoritarian narratives regarding their own communities and other communities of color. ***For Matias, this demands a “process of re-educating Whites via raced curriculum from which they begin a renewed process of identity development”*** It is particularly the last part that has worried liberals and conservatives alike, and is what alot of the examples we are seeing in the media. This is what most of the bills would ban, not the teaching of history, and the dark parts of american history.


Fair_Lawfulness_8875

A good example of this is how Germans came to terms with their collective responsibility for what happened in WW2, identity development. Germans can talk about what happened and how it was a societal failure. Kind of the opposite in America where racists, and those who are racist adjacent, refuse to acknowledge the systemic racism that exists as a result of previous generations of racists refusing to acknowledge their racism and the resultant systemic racism


michaelnoir

I think what they mean by critical race theory is: 1. Telling people that they're infected with a mysterious thing operating like original sin called "whiteness" 2. Telling people that literally everything is about race. 3. Dividing people by supposed "privilege" according to race. The return of segregation, this time woke. 4. All the associated jargon, "whiteness" "bodies" "unpacking" etc. That's what they're actually against, not "oh here's an academic paper written by Kimberle Crenshaw in 1989 about some legal implications for minorities. I bet you haven't read it have you. That means you don't know what critical race theory is". The conservatives have latched onto the phrase "critical race theory" but what they really mean is race-obsessed wokeism in general. They mean the whole American cultural revolution struggle session hysteria that has broken out over the past few years, to nobody's benefit except Robin D'Angelo etc who have profited very nicely out of it.


Turk182

The problem is that they aren’t banning an opinion, they are banning facts from being taught. Most of the legislation doesn’t call out a specific course or intent but rest on the possibility the materials could influences someone to arrive at opinions similar to CRT.


michaelnoir

Oh I don't think they should ban it, but they should present other viewpoints. I'm against anything in the history of ideas being *banned* in an educational setting. But certainly I think the woke stuff ought not to be imposed on children, for instance. Sometimes it's not so much a question of facts but of *emphasis*. Because in history there are *lots* of facts that you can potentially teach. The question is what do you emphasise, and what do you leave out?


Turk182

The truth is often ugly but context is important, without context facts can lose their real meaning Fucked up shit happened, we live with the legacy of fucked up shit that causes more fucked up shit to happen.


skiplark

A lot of this does seem to come back to D'Angelo's populist anti-racism but I never see any push back on her take on things from the left. The vast majority of the push back to the right boils down to "That's not a clip its a magazine and you shouldn't be talking about my 2A rights with a vocabulary like that."


hangoverDOTTED

There are some disagreements on the left to D'Angelo but they aren't shouting about it. More of a polite disagreement. Easy to lose in the din.


TheMaskedHamster

We can teach history accurately without filtering it through the Frankfurt School/critical theory. 1930s Germany is the toxic gift that keeps on giving, apparently.


CATS_YAH_BRO

How the hell is CRT accurate history?


amus

How is it not? Do you even know what it is?


xaviermaxx20

Theories are mere speculations, they are not meant to be accurate. They're just hypotheses