so proud of McKayla and Simone. truly heroic women.
By - BusyBusyBizzy
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/jDOQr8K.jpg) is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. [Here](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/former-u-s-olympic-gymnasts-mckayla-maroney-and-simone-news-photo/1340576919?adppopup=true) is the source. Per there:
> Former U.S. Olympic gymnasts McKayla Maroney (2nd L) and Simone Biles hold hands as they leave following their testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Captiol Hill on September 15, 2021 in Washington, DC. Biles, Maroney and other champion gymnasts testified about the abuse they experienced at the hands of Larry Nassar, the now-imprisoned U.S. women's national gymnastics team doctor, and the Federal Bureau of Investigatoin’s lack of urgency when handling their cases. (Photo by [Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images](https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/chip-somodevilla?family=editorial&phrase=%22Chip%20Somodevilla%22&sort=newest))
I find it hard to believe that Nassar was the only person involved in this abuse. Didn't the news initially say it was systemic throughout the gymnastic community?
Nassar was definitely not the only one involved, which is why these gymnasts are testifying - the widespread abuse has been known about for decades and in the public eye for years and Nassar is the only one who has faced any sort of punishment.
There has been physical and mental abuse of gymnasts not only in the US but in gymnastics programs around the world. Everyone knew about it but it was just the “way things work” so they kept doing it.
The FBI got involved and did an investigation so they knew about the abuse but didn’t punish anyone or remove anyone from their positions.
Gymnasts have been reporting about it for decades but the story didn’t really pick up until around 2016. The people in charge were removed from their positions at USAG but there hasn’t been a proper internal investigation and a lot of the gymnasts’ concerns haven’t been addressed.
The Netflix documentary Athlete A talks about how gymnasts we're scared to come forward as they'd lose a chance at Olympic dreams. Also, it's a supposedly trusted doctor - difficult for young kids to know they're actually being abused and not just experiencing an uncomfortable exam. Nassar needs to rot in hell.
30 for 30 did a podcast series about the system and former coach Béla Károlyi and all of the awfulness that was gymnastics training over the last five decades. It's called 'Heavy Medals'.
I recommend this documentary to everyone and anyone but be warned the content is . . . Graphic at times. It's a hard watch, but an important one. (just like the film Icarus)
edit: I mentioned Icarus because it confirmed a suspicion that I've long held about international sport: rampant cheating. It's also an extremely terrifying tale of a whistleblower with a government after him. Not the same kind of content, but still disturbing.
Was Nassar the only one doing the abusing? I find it weird that everyone is covering up for one guy.
Not by a long shot. He was the most prolific with sexual abuse, but there was sexual abuse of gymnasts from other coaches/trainers as well.
Physical and mental abuse was rampant and it started at the very top with the Karolyis.
[Here is an article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/aly-raisman-conditions-at-karolyi-ranch-made-athletes-vulnerable-to-nassar/2018/03/14/6d2dae56-26eb-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html) about the conditions they faced at training camp.
And [an excerpt from Dominique Moceanu’s](https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_1707937) (1996 Olympian) book about her experience with the Karolyis.
Its really messed up because the widespread mental and physical abuse was how nasser was able to get to really gain the trust of the girls he abused . He knew the systemic emotional abuse that went on in gymnastics and made an effort to be extra nice to the girls so they would trust him. It’s awful.
Oh, other people knew. The board members and gymnastic coach of MSU knew, the coaches and higher ups of the US Olympics gymnastics knew, and even local gymnastic coaches in Lansing knew. And they didn't care what he was doing and protected his ass.
Watch Athlete A on Netflix and At the Heart of Gold on HBO Max.
The willingness of people to be fucking shitbags is directly proportional to the amount of power, money, and/or fame they stand to gain.
The Karolyis are to blame as well. They let that abuse happen under their watch on their property.
The Karolyis were known to be abusive themselves, so why would they care?
McKayla's testimony. This is getting removed everywhere so hijacking the top comment to bring it back.
Well that was horrific and disturbing.
It's infuriating. I had no idea the level of abuse that went on, and the lack of initiative by the FBI. Disgusting.
yeah, me neither. no clue about how bad the abuse was, and the stuff about the FBI was all news to me. How horrible that these girls and women had to go through that.
Fucking hell, I was not prepared for that. What a testimony.
It’s not acceptable. And let’s be honest, this is NOT just within the Olympic athletics. This is something all government officials believe they can get away with
LPT: use [https://www.removeddit.com/](https://www.removeddit.com/) to view removed/deleted posts on reddit. You can even link to a comment on there like you did, regardless of if the OP or mods removed it
It hardly ever works anymore, because the backend database (pushshift) is being pruned at the request of Reddit.
Works much better.
The woman behind her, wiping tears away bright me over the edge
The woman behind her is Lynn Raisman, Aly Raisman’s mom. Aly also testified and her mom has known McKayla for a long time. I’m sure it hits really hard for her.
Can anyone write out the testimony? I don’t think I’m emotionally prepared to watch the whole thing but I would really like to know what she said.
[Here is a transcript of her opening statement](https://abcnews.go.com/US/mckayla-maroneys-gut-wrenching-statement-congress-fbis-handling/story?id=80037780).
Christ that was tough to read. I can’t imagine what it’s like. You’re a celebrity beloved by the nation and yet you feel so powerless. You get regularly sexually assaulted by a pedophile and the people who you expect to enact justice just completely drop the ball. Nassar can go to the deepest pits of hell.
With every single person who protected his ass. This shit only thrives when folks refuse to do the right thing.
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing” - Edmund Burke
Biggest takeaway from me is that he did it for a very long time and she gave a statement to the FBI more than a year before they did anything. And when they did anything, they changed her statement to make it not as bad.
EDIT: I see while I was writing this someone posted ABC’s version of the transcript. It’s much better than mine. Kudos to ABC for that. Leaving this up for anyone who might want to read on Reddit though.
Original comment: I have access to congressional hearing transcripts through my work (the official transcripts are not published for months following hearings, if ever). While all the witness’ written testimonies are on the hearing website, McKayla’s spoken testimony went into more detail.
The following is a DRAFT of her spoken testimony since the company that transcribes these hasn’t published the final one yet. I tried my best to put all the commas in the right places and capitalize the right words, but apologies if it isn’t perfect.
Major trigger warning, she describes her abuse in pretty harrowing detail.
Good morning. Thank you, Chairman Durbin, Ranking Member Grassley, and members of the Judiciary Committee for inviting me to speak today.
As most of you are probably aware, I was molested by the U.S. Gymnastics national team and Olympic team doctor, Larry Nassar. In actuality, he turned out to be more of a pedophile than he was a doctor. What I'm trying to bring to your attention today is something incredibly disturbing and illegal.
After telling my entire story of abuse to the FBI in the summer of 2015, not only did the FBI not report my abuse, but when they eventually documented my report, 17 months later, they made entirely false claims about what I said.
After reading the Office of Inspector General's (OIG) report, I was shocked and deeply disappointed at this narrative they chose to fabricate. They chose to lie about what I said and protect a serial child molester rather than protect not only me, but countless others. My story is one in which Special Agent in Charge Jay Abbott and his subordinates did not want you to hear, and it's time that I tell you.
In the summer of 2015, like I said, I was scheduled to speak to the FBI about my abuse with Larry Nassar over the phone. I was too sick to go meet with anyone in person, and talking about this abuse would give me PTSD for days. But I chose to speak about it to try and make a difference and protect others.
I remember sitting on my bedroom floor for nearly three hours as I told them what happened to me. I hadn't even told my own mother about these facts. But I thought as uncomfortable and as hard as it was to tell my story, I was going to make a difference and hopefully protecting others from the same abuse.
I answered all of their questions honestly and clearly and I disclosed all of my molestations I had endured by Nassar to them in extreme detail. They told me to start from the beginning. I told them about the sport of gymnastics, how you make the national team, and how I came to meet Larry Nassar when I was 13 at a Texas camp.
I told him that the first thing Larry Nassar ever said to me was to change into shorts with no underwear because that would make it easier for him to work on me. And within minutes, he had his fingers in my vagina. The FBI then immediately asked, “Did he insert his fingers into your rectum?” I said “No, he never did.” They asked if he used gloves, I said “No, he never did.” They asked if this treatment ever helped me. I said “No, it never did.” This treatment was 100 percent abuse and never gave me any relief.
I then told the FBI about Tokyo, the day he gave me a sleeping pill for the plane ride to then work on me later that night. That evening I was naked, completely alone, with him on top of me molesting me for hours. I told them I thought I was going to die that night because there is no way that he would let me go, but he did. I told them I walked the halls of Tokyo Hotel at two a.m. and only 15 years old. I began crying at the memory over the phone and there was just dead silence.
I was so shocked at the agent’s silence and disregard for my trauma. After that minute of silence he asked, “Is that all?” Those words in itself was one of the worst moments of this entire process for me. To have my abuse be minimized and disregarded by the people who were supposed to protect me — just to feel like my abuse was not enough. But the truth is my abuse was enough, and they wanted to cover it up.
USA Gymnastics in concert with the FBI and the Olympic Committee were working together to conceal that Larry Nassar was a predator. I then proceeded to tell them about London and how he'd sign me up last on his sheet, so he could molest me for hours twice a day. I told them how he molested me right before I won my team gold medal, how he gave me presents bought me caramel macchiatos and bread when I was hungry. I even sent them screenshots of Nassar's last text to me, which was “McKayla, I love how you see the world with rose colored glasses. I hope you continue to do so.”
This was very clear, cookie cutter pedophilia and abuse. And this is important because I told the FBI all of this and they chose to falsify my report and to not only minimize my abuse but silence me yet again. I thought given the severity of this situation that they would act quickly for the sake of protecting other girls. But instead, it took them 14 months to report anything when Larry Nassar, in my opinion, should have been in jail that day.
The FBI, USOC, and USAG sat idly by as dozens of girls and women continued to be molested by Larry Nassar. According to the OIG report, about 14 months after I disclosed my abuse to the FBI, nearly a year and a half later, the FBI agent who interviewed me in 2015 decided to write down my statement — a statement that the OIG report determined to be materially false. Let's be honest, by not taking immediate action from my report, they allowed a child molester to go free for more than a year. And this inaction directly allowed Nassar's abuse to continue.
What is the point of reporting abuse if our own FBI agents are going to take it upon themselves to bury that report in a drawer? They had legal, legitimate evidence of child abuse and did nothing. If they're not going to protect me, I want to know, who are they trying to protect?
What's even more upsetting to me is that we know that these FBI agents have committed an obvious crime. They falsified my statement and that is illegal in itself. Yet no recourse has been taken against them. The Department of Justice refused to prosecute these individuals. Why? Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco couldn't even bring herself to be here today and it is the Department of Justice's job to hold them accountable. I am tired of waiting for people to do the right thing, because my abuse was enough and we deserve justice.
These individuals clearly violated policies and were negligent in executing their duties. And in doing so, more girls were were abused by Larry Nassar for over a year. To not indicate these agents is a disservice to me and my teammates. It is a disservice to the system, which was built to protect all of us from abuse. It was a disservice to every victim who suffered needlessly at the hands of Larry Nassar after I spoke up. Why are public servants, whose job is to protect, getting away with this? This is not justice. Enough is enough.
Today I ask you all to hear my voice. I ask you please do all that is in your power to ensure that these individuals are held responsible and accountable for ignoring my initial report, for lying about my initial report, and for covering up for a child molester.
In closing, I would like to express my deep gratitude to the United States Senate, a very powerful institution, that from the very beginning has fought for us rather than against us. Thank you and I welcome any questions.
Where has it been removed and why? Not disputing, just curious.
I have heard nothing about this until today. What the fuck? How does this sicko get away with doing this to 70 different girls? What possible reason could there be for whoever at the FBI in Indianapolis to sit on this? It is even a high profile case because they are world athletes.
Something smells fishy. Did this guy maybe know someone at the FBI?
Not 70 girls. He was sentenced based on 70 and about 70 girls were abused AFTER the FBI first silenced the report. Today at the hearing there was a mention of 230+ girls.
Rachael Denhollander, who is basically responsible for this coming to light as she documented Nassar's abuse of her and collected stories of other girls, once estimated it to be in-excess of 500. She even went so far as to say she wouldn't bat an eye if it nearly hits 1,000 considering the length of his professional career and the unwillingness of most to come forward.
Its all so sad, and it’s not only the most innocent among us, being kids, they are also our national heroes. We have an imaginary Sense of grandeur about the USA, the FBI, our military and life style, it seems all so frail and hallow as of recent.
The Nassar survivors collectively received the Arthur Ashe Award for Courage at the ESPYs a couple of years ago. Not that that means anything, but the scope of this whole scandal really hit home watching ALL THESE WOMEN march onto stage.
You can [watch it here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9hu5HLoSzM)
The FBI agent was being schmoozed by USA gymnastics officials, and they were working on trying to get him a job offer within USAG.
The same FBI who protected trump from the Miss America/ Epstein / Victoria’s Secret girls sex trafficking. I hope the investigation is just starting.
70? More like 550. Look up the MSU Nassar cases.
There's a doc on Netflix 'Athlete A' that gives an immense background to the whole story, worth a watch. USA gymnastics don't refer serious allegations to police, they deal with it internally.
Also getting deleted there because apparently dropping truth bombs on the US Senate about the fucking Federal Bureau of Investigation isn't next fucking level. Fuck those mods.
EDIT: Oooh! I touched a nerve!
How could an FBI agent hear numerous victims say the same story and not do something about it? What was he telling his supervisors? Did any supervisors review his case? What the heck? Why did the agent hide all this? Was he being paid off or just lazy? So messed up.
Who is removing it? The Reddit moderators? You know what’s interesting… any time my significant other mentions his dislike for Penn State for the same reasons in the NCAA football subreddit he gets banned by the Reddit moderators.
Holy fucking shit. Wow. I could not do what that person just did.
Lack of urgency is an interesting way to phrase what was essentially turning a blind eye until it blew up too much.
Great work by these ladies. Hopefully we can get some testimony on [Jim Jordan and a Richard Strauss](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_University_abuse_scandal) next.
It's that God damned Getty getting the scoop on another newsworthy event! That dude is *everywhere*.
I thought that scoundrel Via Getty was in jail, for stealing Pelosi's lectern!?
Is that Alexis Rose walking with them?
This guy shits creeks.
You mean Alexis Rose, from Alexis Rose PR?
I believe you mean Alexis Rose of Alexis Rose Communications
The critically reviewed artist who performed "A Little Bit Alexis"
Hide your diamonds, hide your exes
Aly Raisman looked ready for war in that outfit she was in. Kudos to all these women, being able to turn out their pain like this for all to see in order to protect future women.
You're right. The force of her presentation made the outfit start looking kind of Samurai to me.
People say that these women are incredible athletes, which is absolutely true. But they are also so much more than that. Their whole professional appearance, presentation, speaking, everything. Some of them are quirky and what not, sure. But when it comes down to business, they always seem to smack it out of the park professionally in a way that normies couldn't.
Not to mention many of them are also extremely well educated.
edit: nvm is [this](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/yYcmhWbgEqvVh0N2jGTAKw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ3MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/FKebS51v5UMWUDzll5PdCA--~B/aD04MDA7dz0xMjAwO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/people_218/0fd73eb098b7eb39fa8a5bc54c1ba68c) it?
Yea, that's the one. Nothing says "pull my card, motherfucker" like 15th century jousting pauldrons.
Now that's a power suit. These women have so much more courage than I can even fathom.
It's crazy that the FBI would be so blasé for Olympians. Imagine what women who don't have that kind of profile must get treated like. This was on par with Epstein's level of egregiousness.
It's not good for us. I still have only told a hand full of people. No one who "matters" will ever believe me or not blame me.
Edit help others:
If you have kids teach them the names of ALL of their body parts as soon as they are old enough to learn. Teach them what sex is, where babies come from, bad touches, and how to report. Do this as early as possible (there are a lot of very good books out for all ages, baby to adult) and continue to do it as they grow. Teach them consent. They don't have to hug or kiss anyone they don't want to and they should ask before they touch others. THIS is what will help.
This. The outrage on this sub for these girls is amazing, honestly. But the sub is acting like they've never heard of or known anyone that has been molested by someone they trusted. Statistics say 1 in 9 girls are molested or raped by an adult. I'd be willing to bet, generally, that everyone knows a woman that was once one of these girls. Most people probably know a few. It just never gets told. Because, if Olympians are treated this way, imagine how the average little girl feels.
Right! This also completely ignores how many of us were not taught what rape is. Many not even taught what sex is. How can people report when it takes so long to realize that feeling inhuman was because we were raped that the time limits on reporting is gone?
This is way too common, unfortunately. Not even everyone in my family knows, because I'll be blamed. I was a toddler. But whatever. fuck people, for real.
This is a huge problem. It's not limited to celebrities or known issues. It's in our everyday lives.
The number is 1 in 5, for women https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
And this is in the US, where “women have rights”.
I’m sure it gets much worse.
I was abused as a little girl, it’s the type of damage you never fully recover from.
I did what they both had the bravery to do as well. I was mistreated the entire time.
The perpetrator was sentenced 6 months in jail but, only on the weekends + therapy+ an ankle monitor for alcohol consumption + a 120k to me.
Because of covid, all of the punishment was removed and he only paid me $400.
The court has done nothing
The more I read about this, the more it sounds *exactly* like what they did with Epstein. Not making the arrest until they absolutely had to, knowing what was going on but not actively intervening for a long time. Whoever is high up on the chain of command at the Bureau who determines what gets actively investigated or stopped should be put under oath and interrogated
Another article said the person overseeing the investigation was trying to get a job with the Olympics organization.
I know many women who have reported their rapes. At best they were ignored. At worst their trauma continued as the police called them liars or worse.
I know many women who have been raped and none of the perps went to jail for it. Only one is in jail and it’s not on rape charges, it’s on attempted murder charges for going after her new bf.
Serena Williams almost died when in labor because the medical professionals didn’t take her concerns and complaints seriously. *Serena Williams*.
Women, and especially women of color, are not “as equal” as men.
For more examples, see Texas.
Serena Williams' birth story especially infuriates me as an RN. She has a known clotting factor, with history of pulmonary embolisms and acute risk factors. The fact that her healthcare team didn't IMMEDIATELY jump into action when she complained of shortness of breath....epic f**king failure. An absolute testament to the way women, especially women of color, are dismissed in healthcare.
I just learned about this. Some doctor on Tik Tok revealed research that black women are basically believed less.
But I think it’s women of color are not as believed as other demographics. Like white women. Not just men.
Young women are often the most ignored and delegitimized. Achievements or exceptional abilities doesn’t seem to be able to overcome the biases that lead to this.
See also the investigation into Brett Kavanaugh. I’m sorry “investigation.”
It was hard to watch their testimony.....good for them
My reaction too: a) this is excruciating to watch and b) everybody should watch it.
Bruh if the witness statements from literal gold medal winning athletes get brushed off, I don’t even want to think about the hundreds of other children
There is at least one father who committed suicide because of guilt for not believing his daughter.
Among other reasons (he was best friends with Nassar, had some chronic health problems, etc). His daughter, Kyle Stephens, gave the first [victim impact statement at Nassar’s sentencing. ](https://youtu.be/Q0_qzIsQtkI) It’s a little over 10 minutes long and very worth watching.
(CW for SA, suicide in the video)
Dude on the ESPYs when they acknowledged the survivors of Nassar and dozens stood up there from a wide range of ages it was just so heartbreaking.
[here is the clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9hu5HLoSzM)
…..that’s too many. One is too many, but that. is. too. many. The years and years of covering for that man by how damn many people…fucking infuriating.
You think it’s over and they just keep coming. And coming. And you know not everyone felt comfortable enough to do this on tv, so there were plenty more who weren’t there
The crowd on the stage, speaking or not, was just a fraction...
That dude is a monster and I hope they let him get a few days in GenPop as long as the rest of the guys know what he did.
Holy shit. That is absolutely fucked
That was inspiring, thanks for sharing. The sheer number of women and the photos of them as children gymnasts playing in the background were heartbreaking.
The link in this comment is really good.
Wow. All those women. What an absolute failure by so many “respected” organizations. Makes me sick.
I stupidly watch Kaylas testimony about the fbi. Fuck that was rough. Fuck Larry Nassar.
I think the thing that hit me was commentary how this was happening while they were winning medals at the Olympics in London. So much pressure, ability and poise at the same time as enduring terrible abuse. Stunning women in so many ways
It happened when they won in Atlanta in 96 and Rio in 2016…and pretty much every Olympics between. So many gold medals won by girls enduring sexual, physical and mental abuse.
Nassar was allowed to retire by USAG prior to the Rio games, but the story wasn’t exposed til during/after the games.
here's a [short clip](http://imgur.com/a/r3gLIb3) of Simone testifying yesterday. McKayla testified today. all part of the hearing on the FBI's mishandling of the Larry Nassar case
so proud of Simone and everyone else who's come forward about their past sexual abuse in youth sports.
edit: first time posting on this sub. I've been following these proceedings closely. when I saw Simone post this photo, it made me tear up and I posted it here. starting to regret that decision. wtf is wrong with some of y'all? holy shit.
Did any of them mention why the FBI did nothing? That Larry Nasser was signing their Therapeutic Use Exceptions for Ritalin.
The chief branch FBI officer at the time was applying for a job at USA Gymnastics. 40 ~~women~~ girls were abused WHILE THE FBI WAS COVERING IT UP.
> 40 ~~women~~ ***girls****
Yeah it’s important to note that this is child rape.
Federally facilitated child rape
Just to clarify for people new to this issue, thats during the period of the cover-up, so far its potentially 230 victims, but Rachael Denhollander, who was a victim and dedicated her life to bringing down Nassar, thinks there is still a considerable number of victims yet to come forward.
The lead FBI guy (in Indianapolis, I believe) handling the case buried it because he was up for a job with either USA Gymnastics or the US Olympic Committee (I can't remember).
> Did any of them mention why the FBI did nothing?
They wouldn't be in any position to know why the FBI allowed Nassar to continue. They don't have access to any internal FBI communications or anything like that.
Rumour is it that the guy leading the investigation was lining up a future career at USA Gymnastics.
Makes me wonder: Was it his investigation into the abuse that drew him into wanting a career at USA Gymnastics; so he could get in on the abuse?
McKayla did. There's a clip under the current top comment of this post.nothing about Ritalin though.
You got a link?
edit; sorry she doesn't mention WHY the FBI did nothing, just that they failed to act for 14 months
She also says they falsified some of the reports by lying about her statements.
You can read the full report about WHY the FBI did nothing [here](https://oig.justice.gov/reports/investigation-and-review-federal-bureau-investigations-handling-allegations-sexual-abuse). It's horrifying.
Basically it's like equal parts incompetence and malicious lying to cover up incompetence.
Dude was supposed to call people and send files to another department. He didn't and then he lied about doing it. He didn't take notes during the interview with Makayla and then fabricated notes based on his memory 14 months later. He entered these lies into the official file when he finally sent it.
thank you for the link; also holy fuck people are just the absolute worst
Not defending the FBI but trying to understand the “why” so this is more a thought process behind the why.
This is a guy that was “vetted” for nearly 20 years by the USAG (a piece of shit organization that I’ve personally dealt with before this scandal and thought I couldn’t hate more and then this broke and hate them 1000x more).
He was vetted by Michigan State athletics for decades.
He was vetted by The Big 10 as well.
He worked at NCAA tournaments.
Now if I’m Johnny FBI Agent, that’s a lot of “respectable” organizations that should have caught this. Granted, they probably had no idea just how shitty of human beings the USAG were but one would think those assholes would protect their gymnasts.
One would think Michigan state would protect their athletes.
One would think the Big 10 would protect their athletes.
One would think the NCAA would as well.
The entire chain failed these women, many other women and failed them when they were underage.
The FBI should have to answer for their failings but the amount of people that failed these people still just blows my mind.
I watched McKayla's testimony. As a dad of daughters it was gut wrenching and made me want to vomit. To think that mere hours before she competed in Tokyo Nassar was abusing her and she still went out and medaled shows what an amazing, strong person she is.
This whole thing reminds me of the Penn State assistant coach who walked in on Jerry Sandusky in the showers and caught him red-handed buggering a little boy - and instead of calling the police he ran to Joe Paterno and asked what to do.
How does this kind of shit keep happening??? Un-fucking-believable.
Or the wrestlers at Ohio State who were ignored by Gym Jordan (R-OH) who instead helped cover up the abuse by Strauss. Of course he denies it, even though six wrestlers have come out saying he's lying and that he was told multiple times.
I still can’t believe Jim Jordan has a political career after what he did at Ohio State.
I wish I could get Ohioans to wake up and vote him out of office, the criminal.
I don't know how it keeps happening but it does. even with the creation of SafeSport which has significantly lowered the barrier to reporting abusers, I've found it incredibly hard to get others who I know we're abused to come forward.
l think it comes down to power. in my case, my abuser had me convinced I was going to the Olympics. and this person was my ticket to get there. when you're young and don't know any better, the abuse seems a small price to pay for your Olympic ambitions.
I don’t have any faith in SafeSport. I’m in figure skating and there have been quite a few reports of abuse coming out in our sport too and SafeSport seems so inept to handle a lot of these things. It sucks.
As a man with no children it makes me want to vomit how these women were treated.
> This whole thing reminds me of the Penn State assistant coach who walked in on Jerry Sandusky in the showers and caught him red-handed buggering a little boy - and instead of calling the police he ran to Joe Paterno and asked what to do.
*Head desk intensifies*
There are still an uncomfortably large number of Penn State alum who think Paterno shouldn’t be vilified and that it’s unfair to his legacy as a football coach.
I'm from PA, so lots of people I know went to Penn State. The fact he's still a hero there is just shocking to me. I knew one guy there who protested honoring Paterno and got a *lot* of pushback for that.
I saw footage of the rioting after he got fired. So much Kool-Aid drinking.
There are people in this comments talking about how Jerry Sandusky and the Penn State cover up shouldn't be brought up and discussed because ["It was taken care of nine years ago."](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ppkyg4/so_proud_of_mckayla_and_simone_truly_heroic_women/hd58z2t/?context=3)
dissociation is a hell of a drug. basically when you experience trauma by a trusted person /caregiver the way your brain trys to survive that kind of violation is to dissociate. either you become unreal or everything around you does and is like being on autopilot.
people who aren't well versed in trauma work usually struggle to see what's going on.
yes it's strength but it's also a terrible price to pay to be strong in the face of violence.
The penn state abuse is so haunting to this day.
I could never fathom how anyone could walk in on someone raping a child and not beat the perp unconscious at the very least.
When men make the rules, women concerns are low level. It's why people call for systemic changes.
What does your daughter have to do with it? This wouldn’t make you feel sick prior?
Having a daughter or not should have no bearing on how a man feels about this. Progress in how women are treated by society will not happen until men empathize with the concerns women face daily simply because they’re people and listen to women simply because they deserve to be heard. Lacking a specific type of relationship to a women should not ever be an excuse for not understanding. Being a person - full stop - means feeling disgust over what these women experienced - full stop.
Thank you. Sincerely.
Stay strong, ladies.
The bottomless depravity of some [factions](https://www.salon.com/2021/07/28/charlie-kirk-piers-morgan-slam-simone-biles-shes-a-selfish-sociopath-shame-to-the-country/) of the commentariat cannot be overstated.
Both of their testimonies were very moving and *very* damning for the FBI. I think it's amazing that they spoke, but I'm horrified by the realization that their systematized abuse would have been quietly covered up if they had not become internationally recognized athletes.
I would never have known that Maroney's attempt to alert the FBI was delayed for **14 months**, while her abuser continued to molest women and girls, and that the FBI *falsified her statements* in order to protect her abuser.
I saw this live and McKayla did the damn thing.
These women are so strong and brave . With everything they had to endure and America failed them.
I have realized that women and children are not valued in this country or any other country for that matter. This proves it.
These gymnast were literally given to Nassar on a golden platter and everyone involved turned a blind eye.
Sad thing is, these women would not be taken seriously if they never were national icons in their sport. What they had to do for us to listen to them is a black eye on our society.
Many women reported this guy before 2017. They were gaslit and removed from teams. Slandered and made to feel dirty and wrong
Which means thousands of girl and boys nationwide have reported their sexual abuse and nothing was done about it..
the only good thing that came out of it was the creation of SafeSport. not sure if it's worth what *hundreds* of kids suffered under Nassar. and those brave enough to speak up about it. I'm glad it exists is all. sigh.
edit: I feel sick implying that a good thing came out of this.
I understand how you feel.
I used to volunteer with an organization who worked with abused women and children, and a big part of what I wild do was translate documents. Passports were easy, but when it came to personal statements by elementary school kids talking about sexual assaults, it was just awful. At the same time, that assault was their pathway to citizenship. Good did come out of the bad, but it was excruciating for them to relive it and for us to translate it.
Just like you said, it's awful and disgusting but good is coming out of it. Not out of his abuse or the fbis criminal negligence, but out of their stories and their bravery in standing in front of the world to tell their story.
SafeSport is a joke though. They hire contract “investigators” with yahoo email accounts to follow up with reports months afterwards and provide nothing in return.
Look no further than the recent controversy over the US Olympic Fencing Team & SafeSport handling (or mishandling) of the numerous long standing reports of sexual misconduct by their Star boy Alan Hadzic.
It is a joke.
This is greater than sports. They are changing the world by making powerful people accountable. Way harder than gymnastics.
Now we have to put pressure on Congress to follow through. Get Biden to get the Justice Department on it. Because they'll never do a damn thing on their own. I'm surprised the hearings happened, to be frank.
Nobody other than Nassar has been held accountable as far as I know. Cheer these women, but there is nothing to celebrate here.
Jeez Biles is way shorter than I thought.
She’s only 3 inches taller than Peter Dinklage.
She’s 4’ 8”!
And Maroney is 5'4" (163cm). That's a whole 8" difference!
Doesn’t that mean she technically could be classified as having dwarfism seeing as she is under the 4ft 10 height classification?
Not necessarily. Some people are just short. There is such a thing as proportionate dwarfism, but it has other medical criteria aside from height, such as not producing enough growth hormone. I know some people reading this want to argue and claim that anyone under 4'10" is a dwarf no matter what, but it's just not true. Some people are genetically short. Source: I am a 4'6" woman and no doctor has ever told me I have dwarfism. My mom is 4'8".
That’s just 8.23 bananas!
There's a picture of her with Shaq. I love it.
Hey! She’s only an inch taller than me. Idk why I thought she was much taller. Maybe it’s all her awesomeness, makes her seem 10’ tall.
That’s close to her [jump height](https://mashable.com/article/how-high-does-simone-biles-jump) on the vault though!
Look for the photo of Simone with Shaq, taken at around the time of the Super Bowl. It's almost comical.
This is so fucking stupid I love it
Gymnasts are generally small. I was surprised how tall McKayla was.
I’m a former extremely casual gymnast and at 5’2” I was tallish for some equipment.
I also fit that description of extremely casual gymnast and by puberty I was 5’7 at least and quit gymnastics bc my stature was becoming problematic. At least in ballet you can find companies/directors that accept/prefer taller dancers!
and she's in flats vs Maroney's 2 or 3 inch heels
There's a reason all the top gymnasts out of China are probably like 14 years old.
Little bodies have a lower center of gravity and they can get more rotations in. Not to mention they're much lighter.
The gymnasts on the Chinese Olympic team were older this time around - 17, 18, 20 and 21.
Gymnasts in general at this Olympics were older. The median age at Tokyo was 21, compared to 16 or 17 through the 70s-90s.
The old idea that peaking at 16 or 17 and working gymnasts until they break down at 18 has been taken over by the appeal of experienced gymnasts. We have, in part, the exposure of the massive abuse by USAG to thank for this change - the Karolyis, who were the head of USAG for years, were some of the first and biggest believers in the “the younger the better” system.
And kids are more flexible, and tougher. It takes a lot of failed attempts and faceplants into the floor to learn all the moves they do.
Proud of all these strong women. They are doing the right thing, at the expense of themselves and their privacy. They embody the American spirit more than any politician. Thank you thank you thank you
The impact of their testimony will be massive for survivors. These women were ignored by their coaches, committees, the FBI, but still fight. Seeing them receive so much support will give women the confidence to report or seek help when they are victimized.
>“The @TheJusticeDept refused to prosecute these individuals. Why? Deputy Attorney General @LisaMonaco couldn’t even bring herself to be here today … Why are public servants whose job it is to protect getting away with this? This is not justice. Enough is enough."
[Twitter video clip of C-Span testimoney](https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1438166784092344329?s=20)
Not sure why she was called out so specifically: [Lisa Monaco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Monaco)
I heard the story third-hand so take that for what it's worth.
College dorm of an NCAA D1a school. Football players on the team are living at that dorm.
Female resident assistant gets a noise complaint about one of the rooms. It's a college dorm. This happens regularly.
RA goes to the room and tells them to knock it off. A football player in the room starts yelling back at the RA.
Things escalate, and eventually the RA runs back to her room with a football player in pursuit. She closes and locks her door. The player bashes the door down. RA calls the cops.
Before the cops get there, one of the assistant football coaches shows up and tells the cops to go away, as he has everything under control.
RA gets fired.
Nothing happens to the player.
And we wonder why these guys think they can get away with anything....
LSU’s football program has been pumping out abusers and rapists since forever and only recently has some of it come into light. Still there is no real sanction against those programs.
Not surprising at all.
There was a story years ago about Peyton Manning during college sexually assaulting a female physical therapist. Along the lines of pulling out his junk while she did her job.
She reported it after the incident but not surprisingly nothing ever came of it.
The whole story was swept under the rug and no one really knows about it because he’s just a “lovable, goofy football guy.”
These high profile male athletes even from a young age are basically treated like gods and assume they can get away with anything.
Big D1 football programs are notorious for that kind of shit, its insane what they get away with
> Before the cops get there, one of the assistant football coaches shows up and tells the cops to go away, as he has everything under control.
This right here should NOT ever happen. Those cops are complicit in this bullshit for obeying a random football coach instead of doing their *duty* as officers of the law. Fuck them.
Stuff like this happens so often in places where sports are king. I went to college with an NFL first-round draft pick, and like a month before the draft he got a DUI in our college town. Sooooo many people in the community were pissed at the *cop*, saying he should have let the guy off with a warning because a DUI could mess up his draft status.
This will get buried- but I have to say it. As someone who suffered from child sex abuse and family who covered it up. The documentary and their bravery is the first time in almost 40 years that I felt I was survivor than someone who should have successfully committed suicide earlier.
WHAT a convoluted collection of emotion watching these young women! SO incredibly proud of them, absolute, choking rage and not just at the FBI- this barbaric system where " THIS HAPPENED TO ME " can be flatly ignored. These athletes could be the ones to rip the covers from enablers. What they experienced is endemic. Know a kid whose doctor entered an abuse complaint against a parent. Long story short, kid was asked to write an account for the judge. Parent's lawyer simply said " That doesn't look like something a kid is capable of writing " and that was IT, story over. Big shrug from the judge, kid's lawyer put up no fight whatsoever ( Pennsylvania, where Penn State managed to pull off the same putrid kind of thing for a long, long time ).
If professional athletes who TOLD and TOLD and TOLD and still more women were abused, we're just seeing the tip of the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
Remember when conservatives were calling Simone weak because she had a mental crisis during the olympics?
I remember. It was BS then and it's BS now.
Calling it a "mental crisis" doesn't even quite encompass what she experienced (not that ANYONE should be considered weak because they are suffering from mental health issues). My understanding is that the stress caused a neurological disorder that ruined her muscle memory and she couldn't perform safely regardless of her strength/will to continue.
For all of those asking who they are, sort by top comments, and read the first freaking one! It takes less time to do that than post your comments asking this question.
What I got out of all of this and the crappy work the FBI has done on the insurrection is that the FBI is no longer a law enforcement agency. They are yet just another political department in the government.
You mean the agency created by J Edgar Hoover to harass his political opponents? The agency that killed Martin Luther King, Jr.? **That** FBI?
Yeah, they’re trash.
This failure of the FBI to protect dozens of child gymnasts from extreme sexual abuse makes me wonder about the lack of progress on the Gaetz investigation and the Kavenaugh investigation as well.
I'll be honest, I still get enraged every time I see anything about this case because so many people that looked the other way and ignored reports of abuse haven't faced justice.
Amazing how they were still able to compete at such a high level with their abuser standing on the sidelines at the competitions. The mental focus that must have taken is astounding.
This thread reminded me how garbage people are. This guy is in prison for life, guilty as charged and people are STILL victim blaming. Fucking idiots.
People say there’s strong women in the world and these two (along with Aly and the other woman’s name who’s name escapes me) are some of the strongest I can think of. It takes a lot of balls to call out the FBI.
Also, I’m super surprised that the Károlyis haven’t been charged with anything yet. They 100% knew what was going on and just looked they other way.
The FBI is building a history of mishandling sexual abuse cases. Nassar, Epstein. You guys know of others?
Sad the number of folks in the gymnastics world that turn out to be abusing the athletes. While it sadly happens in every sport, it seems more common in women’s gymnastics.