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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/vwvgc0).


jt00798

Just when you think Realmuto can’t be more disappointing


gatemansgc

Should be able to catch some after work


Drake31217

I'm feeling a Long Ball from Hall tonight


gravearchitect

nola day. time to break out the nols jersey. so not only is JT of basically zero help to this team already, he’s now actively hurting them. love that. honestly i’m most bummed about bohm, we could really use him in toronto.


esperadok

Wow I didn’t go on this sub for a few hours and I missed some good slop, I see


JakeArrietasBeard

Nola CG tonight. Can feel it in my dick.


Drake31217

Let's win


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Hothabanero6

what off day? they play the blue birds tomorrow


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Ah…shit. European time is throwing me off.


inthedrink

I appreciate the mods for taking the spotlight off of me implicating the sub for not backing one of our guys over not one, but two Braves 😂


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

So *YOU’RE* behind this?!


inthedrink

Mannnn idk if I can be associated with you anymore after seeing the nasty shit you’ve said to the mods lmao


iTITAN34

Homie needs to chill


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

What did I say that was a lie though?


inthedrink

Oh I wasn’t serious. Just trying to create a little distance before the banning lol


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Oh ok haha. Got worried. But if they ban me that’ll be a joke.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

:(


bestnottosay

0 HR in 17 ABs for Schwarber? Great day to turn that stat around


Hothabanero6

Hey, Oscar Mercado was designated for assignment by the Guardians ... I think we should claim him


DaTigerMan

gonna have to decide at 9 whether i want to watch the phillies or better call saul. lets hope the phils make my decision easier by blowing out the cards


gravearchitect

my man. i couldn’t be more pumped about BCS. elite show. an all-timer.


FrenchBowler

I’m switching, sorry folks!


personalbeavis

Lol same, I have BCS recording just in case but it's gonna be hard not to switch over to it at 9


Stevie_Handjobs

Honestly, not too bummed about the people missing the Toronto series. JT needs a few games off anyway. Nola wasn't going to pitch. I think Gibson would've got game 2 right? So that kinda sucks. Bohm is the biggest loss as he's been playing well. That being said, getting a W tonight is a big one.


Drikkink

They switched games around so Gibson wouldn't be up to pitch until Thursday and Wheeler would be available Wednesday. If we didn't have this Toronto series, the rotation would have been Gibby-Wheeler-BP-Nola for this series, not Wheeler-Gibby-BP-Nola.


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Gibson’s W vs Stl on Saturday is already invaluable as it secured the season tie break for us too.


Stevie_Handjobs

So we got Wheels for game 1 then a BP game for game 2 in Toronto?


Drikkink

Flip them. Wheeler went Friday so normal rest is Wednesday.


Stevie_Handjobs

Gotcha. Thanks I just got up from a nap, brain isn't functioning.


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Other way around I reckon


skylinecowboy

I am ~~confident~~ hopeful that Wheeler will named to the all star team as a replacement when the inevitable pitcher or two don’t end up going for one reason or another.


MoonRock12k

Looks like today is battle of the good playing pitchers who never get any run support


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Win today. Goldy and Pujols are the only two to worry about.


[deleted]

They are all professionals, can’t take them lightly


NintenJew

Is Pujols really someone to worry about? I know he has been average, but I still can't worry about him.


[deleted]

i think "unpredictable" when it comes to him facing us lmao


VideoGangsta

He’s one of the only players who has been so bad for so long that it is honestly starting to overshadow his accomplishments for the first half of his career IMO. A decline for like 10 years is insane.


NintenJew

It's really unfortunate too because a lot of people don't realize he was the Trout before Trout.


inthedrink

Slightly better at the plate than Trout actually*


Bunny_Kat

I can.


Drikkink

Mods deleting comments so fast no one will see me say I'm gay Wait...


NintenJew

Hi Drinkkink! Thanks for posting to /r/phillies. Unfortunately, your comment has been removed for the following reason(s): #I Wanted To Please feel free to check out the subreddit rules page, and if you have questions about this, please contact our mods via moderator mail rather than replying here. Thank you!


inthedrink

It’s still here


NintenJew

Hi inthedrink! Thanks for posting to /r/phillies. Unfortunately, your comment has been removed for the following reason(s): ***Correcting a Mod*** Please feel free to check out the subreddit rules page, and if you have questions about this, please contact our mods via moderator mail rather than replying here. Thank you!


inthedrink

Is this your quirky yet clever sense of humor making this post or is this a real rule? Lol


NintenJew

Na I didn't remove any of the comments, just posted our little automated message.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Hi, (insert dissentful user here)! Thank you for posting to r/Phillies! Unfortunately, your comment has been removed for the following reasons: **It’s easier to claim your criticism of our policies is political rather than to be actually open and receptive to your criticism** Please feel free to check out the subreddit rules page, and if you have questions about this, please contact our mods via moderator mail rather than replying here. Thank you!


otterHooligan

If you’d like to discuss our moderation policies I would encourage you to use the modmail link in Mets’ removal message rather than bitching endlessly for attention in the game thread.


dustbunnyhoagiesonme

this mod tyranny is exactly why i'm moving over to r/phils with /u/mlbstar17 and u/bananaflame so i can be free


bananaflame

I think you tagged the wrong account. paging u/bannanaflame


dustbunnyhoagiesonme

Haha you’re right. Sorry to confuse you with the king!


esperadok

Some say Bananaflame is still on r/phils complaining about Kapler’s lineups to this day


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

I shouldn’t have to go to mod mail just to be told nothing can be done because you and some of your peers are abusing your power.


otterHooligan

If you want to seriously discuss things regarding the way the subreddit is run, then you should take your concerns to modmail. This has always been our policy, and that is why a link is included in every removal reason. Considering our modmail is currently empty I’m going to assume that you don’t actually have any interest in actually discussing anything and just want to complain for the sake of it


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Your policy has always been ‘no politics.’ Am I to believe that removing comments that disagree with your practices are just fun little perks? Again, I’m not going to send one of you mail just for you to wait all day to get back to me and reword the reason for removal.


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DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

That’s what I’m saying. I’m in here virtually every night and half of these mods I never see unless it’s time to consolidate power. There are people that are mods because they care about this community and there are people that are mods because they enjoy the feeling of having power. Seems like we’ve got a lot of the latter in here, and if that’s the case it’s pretty sad.


JakeArrietasBeard

Never even heard of 2 of the top 3 mods. That is a typical problem with large communities. The top mods have all the control but are largely absent.


JakeArrietasBeard

You’d be better off writing it down then throwing it out.


NintenJew

You are welcome to talk to me. We have been discussing this all week. If you have any ideas, I would love to hear them. Believe me.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Just to let you know my criticism isn’t directed at you.


NintenJew

Listen I think we as mods can do a better job, I won't take things personally. It is just this has been a complicated subject. We tried allowing everything, and comments were uh.... not good and ***could*** (probably wouldn't but could) put the sub at risk. We also tried removing specific comments, but different moderators had different ideas of what should be removed (due to our own natural bias). As the kids say these days "Shits hard".


dustbunnyhoagiesonme

I think that in trying to be proactive you jumped the gun instead. The thread moved quickly through the progressions and got locked right before actual news broke. I don't think locking that thread was a mistake. And your hands were tied when news broke – you run the risk of the conversation continuing from its prior point in progression. A preemptive lock on that thread is understandable but could've been anticipated and explained at an earlier point. I don't know when the next COVID thread will be, but I know you're all very smart folks. You can use a mega-thread to consolidate knowledge (about COVID and about the Phillies) in the post or stickied comment and moderate to that. I didn't really find any of that thread very valuable because news wasn't relayed effectively (OP mod didn't even include the referenced article in the post until a user provided it). I forgot that the United States didn't allow entry w/o a vaccine or negative COVID test – I thought they recently dropped that restriction and Canada was the last remaining major nation with those rules. IMO that's a major discussion point but that wasn't apparent anywhere in the post. I had to infer that from a deleted user-comment accompanied by a mod-comment. I think if you wanted to get ahead of the conversation, you could've done a better job establishing the ground rules and FAQs first and then cleaning up the degenerates. Y'all have a thankless and difficult job. It gets harder every season. I appreciate you all as individuals and I'm sorry that it sounds like Reddit really does not provide you with the support you need for instances like this.


NintenJew

I think you hit the nail on the head. We didn't lay down the ground rules because we as a team couldn't agree on them (hell we still can't.) All that did was just create this situation. We didn't prepare hard enough. We tried to get on top of it, but did do everything just too early.


dustbunnyhoagiesonme

/r/phillies: I don't think the system works. /u/NintenJew: how would you have it work? /u/dustbunnyhoagiesonme: we need a system where the mods sit down and discuss the problem, agree what’s in the best interest of all the sub and then do it. /u/NintenJew: That’s exactly what we do. The trouble is that mods don’t always agree. /u/dustbunnyhoagiesonme: Well then they should be made to.


JakeArrietasBeard

~~What he means is they are powerless because metssuck is above them. And he’s power hungry~~ Edit: apparently u/metssuck is the good guy.


metssuck

Considering I'm the one that's saying to let all comments stand and let one thread talk about Covid and have it be completely unmoderated, I'm going to say that's not the case, but that's all of the mod drama I'm going to share.


JakeArrietasBeard

Well in that case I’ll retract my statements.


NintenJew

That is absolutely the exact opposite of what I mean or what is going on. Now I won't call out names, but really I wouldn't assume things based on this thread. Instead of blaming the other mods, just blame me.


NintenJew

Oh God. Just don't go killing the younglings in the future please.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

You’re definitely my favorite mod here and always have been. I appreciate you actually interacting with us and telling us the situation instead of just locking threads with no warning and removing comments like some of your peers.


benoderpity

It's okay, Stubbs rakes.


tds5126

I know this has become the covid thread, but Arenado not starting for the Cards today is nice. Let’s get the win and worry about Toronto tomorrow


iTITAN34

Seriously, he has been hammering us


Abdoulaye_Skeet

People being seemingly let down thst only 4 players are ineligible is remarkable


sambraddock9

And we knew about 3 of them tbh


Abdoulaye_Skeet

And 2/3 can’t even contribute because they’re not up to pitch anyway. The “bUt WhAt AbOuT BRYCE” crowd just WANTING it to be worse suck so much.


Drikkink

I mean it will kinda suck if we have the fairytale season and run through the NL Playoffs Then face the Blue Jays in the WS.


inthedrink

If that happens we attack the locker room like it’s January 6 with hypodermic needles!!!


Abdoulaye_Skeet

The odds of that rn (sponsored by PointsBet) are +11900. Can we just take this as a 2 game series in Toronto and leave it at that until we start worrying about October?


Drikkink

Sir this is a Philadelphia sports subreddit. We must catastrophize everything. *Everything*


Abdoulaye_Skeet

I know I know and frankly I get it I’m just over the conversation. I don’t there should be a vaccine mandate (Can-US or US-Can) either way, especially when you don’t need to be vaxxed to go to games in Toronto (from what I can tell)


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metssuck

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DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Lol fuck you


JakeArrietasBeard

I guess they’re going to delete all non sports related comments? Nope just going to pick and choose


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Just the ones that strike a nerve I suppose.


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metssuck

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FejSkaz

Sign Knapp off waivers and have him play a game in Toronto lmao


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Jesus Christ id rather forfeit both games


FejSkaz

Excuse me, respect the .328 season OPS please.


iTITAN34

How


Abdoulaye_Skeet

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


AbsurdLemon

Stubbs > you know who


NeurosciGuy15

Covid megathread, locked. Tweet about the Covid roster moves, locked. So, uh, where are we supposed to talk about it mods? In here I guess? It affects the team so we shouldn’t ignore it just because some people will inevitably have bad takes.


skylinecowboy

The Mods on this board have been very even handed in dealing with this issue but their hands have been tied from their Reddit overlords. I would have also been totally in favor of a Wild West thread but that would have had bad consequences for this Sub. I’m ready to get back to just talking about baseball and the amazing turnaround Topper has been engineering anyhow.


NintenJew

Legitimately it is something we have been discussing all week. The problem is, for some of these terrible takes we can get in trouble with reddit. We tried allowing everything, but that went poorly, and it's the internet so we can't have a civil discussion. We are talking about it and honestly, we are open to any ideas people have. We also have other jobs and we do this in our free time, so we can fully moderate everything. I am not trying to say this as an excuse, it is just hard to figure out exactly what we can do.


joeco316

You’re saying allowing everything isn’t an option or that it is but just degenerates too easily? If it’s an option I say just make it a Wild West disclaimer thread and let whoever wants to submerge into the muck have at it (I may or may not dive in!). I think most want to have a designated place to discuss it, and what comes with that comes with it.


NintenJew

We allowed everything, it degenerated to things that were not COVID related, and then degenerated into things that would get us in trouble as other subs have gotten banned for having those types of comments. It is a baseball subreddit but instead of talking about the baseball, people were using it for other stuff.


EverybodyHits

Let one thread implode and police the others hard. I don't even think there's much energy for implosion anymore.


NintenJew

There were some really bad comments that we can't allow as it goes against Reddit's rules. We tried that with the megathread, just getting it implode, but it was just bad.


AbsurdLemon

You make one little terroristic threat and everybody loses their mind 🙄


joeco316

I’m not doubting you per se, but there is so much absolutely horrible stuff on Reddit, I just find it tough to believe that this would be what the Reddit overlords are overly worried about.


NintenJew

We just don't want to risk it. Would anything bad happen, no. But some things were really uh... toxic is the best word I can use.


joeco316

I gotcha. You guys do what you gotta do.


dustbunnyhoagiesonme

glad we had a thread with no new information 4 days ago to unnecessarily invite ~~controversy~~ discussion only to close the thread less than 24 hours before we got real news that we couldn't discuss in a real thread. great work, mods. /s


JakeArrietasBeard

Great decision mods. Now the whole game thread is about it.


classicrockchick

Honestly, I thought it was going to be a lot worse. 4 isn't bad. Sucks, but I was expecting like half the team to not go given the way people were speculating.


Bunny_Kat

The articles about it made it seem as though half the team wouldn't be crossing the border. Looks like Camargo might be back for Toronto and if not Vierling can cover 3rd. Marchan will come up for back up back up catcher and neither pitcher wouldn't be pitching in those 2 games due to the adjustments already made. Looks like we'll get an extra relief pitcher to help fill in on Tuesday.


Cloakington

Yeah the way some people were talking I thought we would be fielding the Iron Pigs in Toronto. It's still disappointing there were any but 4 isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things


EaglesPvM

Just wanna put a personal apology to Rhys here. For some reason I thought he and Nola made those dumb comments last season about the vaccination but a quick google search showed Rhys has been for it. Sorry Rhys. And fuck everyone who is hurting the team with this BS Also fuck the mods for locking the thread immediately after posting something that impacts our Phillies heavily, on a Phillies subreddit


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Hey, mods? How about you let us discuss the fact that a major sect of our team will not be able to play multiple games. Yes, it runs the risk of becoming political…that’s the point of protected/specific threads. But this is a major event that could impact us in a playoff race and we’re not allowed to talk to other fans about it on here? Come on….


bubbles1990

Definitely a joke and to those who won’t get vaccinated because of some backwards and unfounded belief, you are dumb and hurting society


JakeArrietasBeard

Agreed. Ridiculous stance by the mods.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Getting tired of people who don’t think that there’s a place where sports and politics intersect, and it’s a shame that the mods in my favorite sports community on the internet subscribe to that mindset.


JakeArrietasBeard

This is Reddit. No matter what community you go to the mods will always take any chance to show they’re in charge


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Pretty sad. Would like to think the mods here are pretty chill. Although I should get them over to r/Sixers. If any place needs tyrannical mods it’s that one.


JakeArrietasBeard

They said there were comments that would get the sub banned (doubtful), but if that was the case those people should be addressed. Though, that would take actual modding.


dan_eppley

2.5 years into this new world and it’s pathetic the mods won’t let us discuss lol. Like what???


663SilverStax

I have every expectation that the BBCIB is gonna ball out in Toronto. Prove me wrong


J-Stan

Only 4 sacks of shit. Surprising.


joeco316

I’m not convinced that’s the full list. I would be absolutely floored if the entire bullpen is vaccinated and eligible.


Chief_JD

Only having 4 not traveling to Toronto is surprising lol


mp455

Appalling that Wheeler is not in the All Star game.


amatom27

Just here to thank JT since he's not vaxxed and this is when the inevitable Stubbs take over begins and I am ALL FOR IT


merlinderHG

ok so today it's nick's turn to faceplant in the outfield and potentially break his sunglasses


inthedrink

It’s a shame that our own fans don’t appreciate how good JT is because if we all did then we’d be totally up in arms that William Contreras made the team over him and absolutely ripshit that d’arnaud was named as the replacement when Contreras was named DH. What a joke all the way around And for those who don’t know JT has the highest bWAR of any active position player on our roster in spite of everyone’s eye test.


Ruut6

What are you upset about again? Contreras is ahead of JT in both fWAR and bWAR by a significant margin, and the hitting numbers are not even remotely close. D'Arnaud is higher than JT in fWAR, and JT is higher in bWAR. The main thing JT is better than D'Arnaud isn't even defense, it's baserunning. They rate comparably by FanGraphs's defensive rating, and D'Arnaud actually ranks 2nd of 58 in framing runs (JT is 45th). JT obviously has the better arm. So you basically wanted JT to make it over D'Arnaud because he's a better base runner? EDIT: just realized you meant William Contreras (not Willson). Still not understanding what the issue is, William Contreras as the DH makes 10x more sense than Realmuto, and the C reserve is D'Arnaud.


inthedrink

Contreras was named backup catcher from what I’ve seen before he replaced Bryce so he is part of this


Ruut6

What? Bryce was always going to be replaced (by William Contreras) and D'Arnaud was selected as backup C. You must be thinking of the fan voting, where (William) Contreras may have very well been second. But that's irrelevant. He was never actually selected as a catcher. His WAR is also barely behind JT's despite playing in about 57% of the games. I'm still just confused on who you think Realmuto should be in the All-star game for.


inthedrink

I saw the younger Contreras was named as catcher but maybe I misread or got bad info. Either way JT has been more valuable as a catcher than both of them. And I realize there is a debate to be had but it’s amazing that like 10% of his own fans are willing to have it. It’s also worth noting that JT has played about 25% more than dArnaud. That matters too


Ruut6

> Either way JT has been more valuable as a catcher than both of them. This is just a crazy statement to make, when it's debatable (at best) and even as a Phillies fan I totally understand D'Arnaud making it considering offense is always more rewarded by fans and all-star games than baserunning. Either way, in no way is it a "joke all around" that JT didn't make it. * fWAR (TDA vs JT): 2.2 vs 2.1 * bWAR: 0.8 vs 2.0 * OPS+: 117 vs 93 * wRC+: 119 vs 91 * FG defense: 8.7 vs 9.8 * Framing: 2 of 58 vs 45 of 58 * FG baserunning: -1.7 vs 3.4


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Any metric that has a lower case letter in it is fake


rhinguin

*nods in sixer fan*


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Anyone who does not recognize the value of advanced stats in 2022 will have their opinion disregarded.


Abdoulaye_Skeet

I’m mostly being a jackass, but it seems pretty obvious why he isn’t getting the support he normally would in voting from Phillies fans this year considering his massive underperformance.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

Downvote retracted. But yeah, the general population will never really take advanced stats into consideration when voting for all-stars, which I’m actually kind of fine with. All-star nods are nice but should be meaningless. If a fan wants to send their favorite player to the game simply because he’s their favorite player I really don’t care. If they want to give someone else a shot behind the plate because JT’s had a down year in their eyes and just starred in one last year I won’t get bent out of shape because of it. It’s significance in fans appreciation towards JT and what he contributes is a different discussion.


Abdoulaye_Skeet

I think Phillies fans will always be appreciative of what JT does and know he does so much more than any other catcher, but considering our eyes are on him most this year yeah I’m not totally surprised his voting numbers are down. Contreras frankly deserves it over him, and then whoever gets selected after is a crap shoot anyway (see Wheeler, Rodon, Riley etc)


Morbx

I see you are a BATTING AVERAGE type guy. I am too!


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Don’t yell at me!


ibuycheats

Lol he's having a terrible offense year. It's just that every other catcher in the league besides 4 suck just as much at hitting that's the only reason he has 1.5 oWAR. We traded prospects and pay him 20 million a year for more than 236/310/369. He needs to be at least hitting for more power than 300s SLGing. I'd honestly rather just see Molina get a farewell nod than see JT make the team. He flat out does not deserve it.


Mulsanne

> We traded prospects What, pray tell, have those prospects done since being traded? Has the centerpiece of the deal literally not thrown an inning from the mound since 2020? Has the other piece remained a league-average-at-best catcher?


VioletOwls

I still argue we lost the trade the moment he reached free agency. Could've just kept our guys and signed him to the same deal considering it didn't help us reach the postseason anyway.


Mulsanne

I still argue those things I wrote which you ignored lol


VioletOwls

I mean Sixto's been hurt but he's not dead lol he's only 23. I like JT, I'm just saying that since we couldn't extend him after the trade we essentially gave up a highly touted starting pitching prospect (something we can all agree the team has really needed the past couple years) just to end up overpaying JT in free agency anyway, which we could've done without giving up anything but cash. Again, rolling with Alfaro might not have helped us make the playoffs but the Marlins ended up beating us to the postseason in 2020 anyway. I guess you could argue part of signing Harper was getting his bff on the team first? Silver linings.


inthedrink

Imagine a lightbulb going off realizing that WAR is representative to how you compare with the rest of the players in the league at your position. And if there’s a position where I’d prefer a higher portion of his WAR comes from defense it’s catcher or shortstop. Is he worth what he’s being paid? Maybe, Maybe not. Tell me more about how the guys he was traded for are doing right about now. Is he an all star this year? Absolutely.


VioletOwls

He's a great defensive catcher and a valuable player, but c'mon man he's got a sub .700 OPS he's not going to be a no brainer for the ASG. I'm sure he was in consideration considering catcher is a weak position this year but let's face it d'Arnaud is having a really nice year at the dish. I don't think it's egregious like the Wheeler situation. As to whether he's earned his contract so far, IMO absolutely not. Still time to turn it around, though.


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inthedrink

Offensively they’re not far off. Defensively they absolutely are. JT is a better player even when he’s not been good relative to his own standard


ibuycheats

The thing is a higher portion of his WAR comes from offense not defense and only because every fking catcher sucks absolute monkey dick at hitting this year. However, those other guys aren't being paid 20 some mil and on top of traded for. Don't even try to convince me hitting 236/310/369 (worse than Castellanos) adds anything remotely positive on offense. No he is absolutely not an all star.


inthedrink

Someone has to be an all star He’s better than two of the guys who have already been named ahead of him If you can’t find a better catcher then yes he’s an all star.


ibuycheats

If you think he's been better than Contreras this year, just rmaofl


inthedrink

Two of them were named and one has played 28 as catcher. I’ll let you figure out which one I think JT has been better than. He was named as catcher before he replaced Bryce at DH.


ibuycheats

"He’s better than two of the guys who have already been named ahead of him" Going off fangraphs I'd take d'Arnaud's much better bat (3.8 vs 0.2) with slightly worse defense (8.7 vs 9.8) over JT this year.


Mulsanne

> on top of traded for. Please stop saying this as if we gave up some piece we'd really love to have around right now. It's not remotely true.


DaTigerMan

hoskins just barely edges JT in bWAR (2.1 > 2.0) but otherwise i agree


inthedrink

Thanks for the correction. The flip flopped since yesterday and I missed that.


DaTigerMan

no worries, the point absolutely still stands though. i think people don’t realize A) how valuable good defensive catching is, B) how good JT is as a catcher, and C) how bad catching is throughout the league


inthedrink

Especially option C. Someone has to be named all star and JT is better than two of the three who were named. Saying the guy should be an all star isn’t putting him in the hall of fame. But I do wanna support our guys who deserve it.


Pope_Landlord

How in the blue fuck did Nola and Wheeler not make the All-Star team? I mean I get it's a fan vote but still...


sleepkingzzzz

It's actually a good thing they aren't in the all star game. Both of them will be well rested for the start of the second half. If they pitched in the all star game they may not bed ready


inthedrink

Pitchers are not a fan vote


Pope_Landlord

Then even more egregious


inthedrink

Yeah some like Fried are very arguable but the bad one is Castillo who is only there because the Reds don’t have anyone else who isn’t straight up trash. The rule requiring a rep from every team is so stupid.


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Winning 3/4 would be fantastic


PrinterOne34

I know MLB powers rankings mean absolutely nothing but ngl I like to see the Phils appreciated once in a while. For sure thought we’d make it this week.


sambraddock9

Putting Brewers and Twins but no Phillies lmao guess we need to never lose again to make one of these


Drikkink

Brewers are waking up again (sorta) and the Twins are kinda streaking too, so I kinda get it.


JWHISKY707

the MLB ones are trash


DaTigerMan

the athletic’s latest power rankings has us at #9, which is cool


Drikkink

CBS also has us at 9. Overall, I'm okay with people continuing to sleep on us though. This is the most complete Phillies team since the golden age by far. Even without our best and (arguably) 2nd best players, we're on a tear. Ideally both will be back in a month-month and a half. Jean has already said he "won't let it go the full 10-12 weeks... as soon as I can grip a bat and swing, I'm good" and 10 weeks is mid August.


Morbx

Yeah, I was gonna say. I was happy to see that but it doesn’t match the satisfaction I would get for seeing the Phillies in the nifty MLB power ranking graphic that gets posted to r/baseball.


DaTigerMan

for sure, it’s nice to see our team get appreciated on the big sub as opposed to “BUT DEFENSE!!!”


Mulsanne

But then they spent the entire blurb talking shit about the team! I don't know why I bother, though. They're not designed to be accurate, they're designed to be controversial.


Chief_JD

Today feels like a loss for some reason prove me wrong boys


Abdoulaye_Skeet

Nola’s consistent lack of run support makes me sad


gatemansgc

there is going to be so much glorious salt if the braves knock the mets out of first in the next few days lul let's get nola a much needed W today. a schwarbomb or two would be nice too!


FarminHerbs

Nola day! Let's get him some run support. Need this series dub going into Toronto


Dan888888

Y’all rooting for Braves or Mets tn? I’m going Mets.


Vampire_Blues

The Mets could be playing against the Nazi Germany national baseball team and I'd still root against them


Dan888888

Fair


utleyduckling

Let’s get out there and knock Mikolas around a bit. We needs some serious offense this week


VioletOwls

I still can't believe they picked Fried over Wheeler for ASG. The Braves seriously don't need a representative at every fucking position.


wiivile

arent you glad a brave gets to replace bryce at dh


Bunny_Kat

no.


NeurosciGuy15

BA updated their T100 today: Painter 38 Abel: 66 O’Hoppe: 92 McGarry: 99


AssassinPanda97

Been a while since I've been happy with our farm.


DaTigerMan

today is a great day god bless


Mulsanne

Very ~~encouraging~~ engorging development