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UnrealisticDetective

You're an employee, not a family, not a friend. Most of us have a glorified 1-day contract that gets repeated until they decide not to repeat it. Why would you treat them any differently?


OEWorker

The fact that it's about 'keeping a job' instead of 'making money' or whatever is the other half of the brainwashing. Oh I'm supposed to feel privileged and amazing to work for a fortune 500 company that exploits people, governments and ruins the ecosystem? Lol. People gotta change their mindset. It's not about having or keeping a job. It's about maximizing your earnings at minimum stress levels. You know, just like a CEO thinks. Would you rather do the right thing and spend 100 million bucks to make something eco friendly. Or would you rather spend 10 million to pay off officials, oh sorry... do lobbying campaigns... and keep ruining the ecosystem and pocket in 90 million more of which you might get 1-10 mil bonus? Yeah... Leadership will pick 80% of the time to maximize earnings and don't give a damn about consequences. We need to be our own CEOs. The company can go to hell, the leadership can go to hell. Heck, the projects can totally flop. I don't care. I contribute my expected piece of the pie and receive a paycheck in return. Keep your office drama. Keep your 'giving 110% to earn 3% in raise', etc. Maximizing earnings and my stakeholders (my spouse, kids and myself, lol) are my only objective. TL;DR: Be the CEO of your life, not work for a CEO who sees you only as a revenue stream, and refuses to pay you fairly.


pincherudy

THIS x100! So many are brainwashed into thinking they must have a career to be fulfilled. Fuck that, I’m in it for the paycheck until my biz brings enough revenue for me to walk away


OEWorker

The only thing fulfilling me is seeing my debt disappear and going on amazing vacations with spouse and kids. And buying video games and hobby stuff guilt free (cuz $$$ from J2)


pincherudy

You’re doing it right. Family. The most important thing


uchihajoeI

Once you change your mind set from “I’m lucky to work here” to “YOURE lucky I work here” everything changes. I’m selling my time to the company. Don’t get it twisted. There’s thousands of jobs and only one me.


pincherudy

BOOM


BeyondRecovery1

What type of biz


pincherudy

Multiple streams, one being real estate.


BeyondRecovery1

How is real estate for you? I hear tenants can be a headache? Or repairs can be a headache?


Oisschez

Absolutely. These demons would literally kill you if it added 2.3% to their GDP growth in Q3. They’re doing this already on a worldwide scale through the endless and unsustainable extraction of Earth. Hell, all of the big name tech companies are [competing](https://youtu.be/slwXztSAMCk) for every second of our waking hours. Their underlying business model is to make sure we’re lazy unproductive, pieces of shit who mindlessly consume content, therefore viewing as many advertisements as possible. It’s evil, evil stuff. The only things that matter are you, your family and your community.


OEWorker

Well put. And the endless competition is super fake too in some industries. Like people don't even know anymore who or what conglomerate owns what. I think it's something insane that all household products are being owned by only like 3-5 companies or something (body soap, dishwasher soap, laundry detergent, tissues, etc.) Similar thing going on with food brands and even car brands are getting worse. Smaller systems are bound to become bigger and bigger as time goes on. Even if you buy an eco friendly product it still most likely goes to a parent company that also makes an environmental unfriendly counterpart (think proctor & gamble aka P&G and such). Or companies that appear to go sustainable with initiatives like electric cars by Ford. Well yeah you also still make the huge 5.0 liter pickup trucks, lol.


Oisschez

Yeah it is insane. Competition eventually has winners and losers and the massive conglomerates that exist today are the winners. They’ve captured the markets and our government. Some fin services companies are so heavily integrated with the economy that they are too big to fail. They’re not businesses anymore, they’re institutions.


OEWorker

Yup. But meanwhile everyone preaches 'its a free market' and all that garbage.


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BRB, writing a PIP for my kids who aren’t doing the dishes often enough


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Dantronik

Thinking a corp is your family is like thinking a hooker is your girlfriend.


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I always tell my kids I’m going to fire them…. Out of a cannon


HodloBaggins

2 things. 1. Many people lack something in their life and that makes them vulnerable to the “we’re a family” bs, to fill a void. To have a sense of purpose or belonging. 2. As time passes, I believe it’ll become clearer that many people will start “firing” their families. It’s already being normalized by the idea of “abandoning your toxic family members” or whatever. Okay, I’m not saying that all family members deserve unconditional love and respect if they’ve done terrible things to you. But I think agreeing to disagree is slowly dying and younger generations are primed for “cancelling” anyone and anything in the blink of an eye. And the work/grind/rat race mentality only exacerbates the fact that your priorities are out of whack. Your old parents tucked away rotting somewhere while you focus on work hard-play hard or whatever.


Seiche

Found the toxic family member. But seriously I think this has to do with the realisation that time is limited and life's short and there are ways to make you happy (or improve your life) and then there's spending time with racist aunt margaret that doesn't care or listen to your opinion once a week because she is sad and lonely (surprisingly). We as a society keep abandoning the "it's what you do" cultural conventions (imo rightly so) and that's part of it.


HodloBaggins

Like I said, not all family members deserve unconditional love and respect if they’ve done terrible things to you. But there’s a fine line between that and just being done with a family member over a political disagreement


Seiche

For me it's just the fact that if I don't get joy out of any interaction with that person why would I waste my time like that, just because we're related.


OEWorker

That's the spirit! Lol. Maybe I should put my kid on a PIP to increase household value by increasing productivity![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


moremintjelly

and the kids should be trying to find a second or third set of parents :)


AussieCollector

Absolutely fucking spot on. When i stopped giving a fuck, my life got so much better. Could not care less if the project is late or delayed. Or if something wasn't completed. Not my problem. It will be done the next day. CEO's are cutthroat. Thats how they get to the top. Be cutthroat yourself. Take no prisoners. Started a job and its your first day and a better offer came in? Resign and take the better offer. Just completed the training they spent all this time on? Fuck em. Take the better offer. Always be working out how to put yourself first. Because they sure as hell wont.


OEWorker

That is very well put!


Straight_Physics_894

This is a huge fact. I worked for a huge fortune 100 and I had a meeting with the team that was directly responsible for stifling the legal eruptions of their wrongdoing. They were high key advocating for slavery.


stardustViiiii

Maximizing shareholder value (i.e. the bankaccount of your spouse, kids and yourself)


OEWorker

You got that right!


VanguardSucks

Yeah fuck this whole “keeping a job” BS. You nailed it. The moment you get complacent, it is over (for both your careers and financials)


goobershank

As someone in the process of interviewing, I often find it difficult to separate the humanity of the people I'm working with from the cold, heartless "corporation" part of it. Being OE, I feel like a player trying to hook up with a chick who is looking for a long term relationship. This post is 100% correct, but when real humans are the face of what you're dealing with, it can be challenging to separate the 2. Although I imagine it's easier when you're working for a larger company.


StuffDadSays1234

That’s showbiz baby! Loyalty is a two way street. I’ll show loyalty when I receive it. Until then - fuck you. Pay me.


FakeNickOfferman

I'll drink to that. Thirty years of eating corporate shit here and nothing to show for it.


28carslater

Even then, fuck you. Pay me.


Gary_Glidewell

> Being OE, I feel like a player trying to hook up with a chick who is looking for a long term relationship. Being OE, I feel like a chick who is looking for a long term relationship, who's dealing with an unscrupulous player


BikePsychological993

I've had an easier time thinking of myself as a high end escort. I say when, where and how much. No kissing on the mouth. Too personal. 💃


Kingofauui

That chick you think is looking for a long term relationship is only looking for free drinks (You working after hours), a temporary boyfriend (you can work as salary until you’re not needed) and a SIMP guy (who will go above and beyond) while they make the real profit but you make nothing. Use company’s like they use employees. OE let’s you stay in the drivers seat able to break up with her until you find someone better.


Ok_Independent9119

>Although I imagine it's easier when you're working for a larger company. This is absolutely true. I always want to be able to cut bait and leave at any time for J2+, with a smaller company it hits them harder. For a giant company I'm not even a blip on the screen. Sometimes the humanity of the interviewer aligns with the heartless corporation though, and it makes it even easier to do this.


cats_catz_kats_katz

She wanted that relationship until Tom moved in next door, and you were spending so many late nights at the office trying to het that promotion….it just happened.


Nice_Mammoth_4341

Haha I love the analogy


SudoRmRfRs

I’m overemployed as freelance, obviously I’ll put my company first 😂


NewcDukem

Go to the mirror, and tell your boss you're gonna quit unless he gives you more money


SudoRmRfRs

Ok you made me laugh and therefore you are awarded my free award 🥇 (gold medail until i have my free award) Edit: award provided


Dantronik

Metaverse is a joke


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Straight_Physics_894

Sorry bro, been there done that


YoGodFlow

Looooooooool, my dude that sucksssss 😂 keep that head down!!!


JackDaniels_2021

I smiled when I read this because I did the same thing. I feel for you. But lesson learned....


wantAdvice13

If he posted “make money, get a life first”, he’d get shit on, downvoted, reported and fired into oblivion by Linkedin lunatics.


alioopz

Don’t drink the corporate kool-aid people! It’s every man/woman for themselves. ![gif](giphy|h0MTqLyvgG0Ss)


HodloBaggins

I fundamentally agree with this take, but what benefit could it possibly have to publicly post that on your LinkedIn?


HoiPolloiAhloi

Like farming is the new agriculture


PressureRich6127

I always tell people never to put work first. We are easily replaceable


BoomerZoomerLoomer

Everytime I see someone post something like this on LinkedIn I wonder how they're able to get away with it and not have their employer freak out and fire them or something.


YoGodFlow

Tbh i don’t think employers care that much. Unless they are the “we are a family” type of people which FAANGS definitely are not


HoiPolloiAhloi

Got laid off 3 times, after the first one i no longer went above n beyond and work excessively long hours. But it helps that my jiggler makes my status green thou lol 😂


Thinks_Like_A_Man

If slavery wasn’t illegal, even if was still considered morally reprehensible, companies would literally chain you to a desk and give you a bucket to piss in.


Straight_Physics_894

Don’t think these huge fortune 500s are engaging in slave practices. Down the supply chain it’s so evident


HoiPolloiAhloi

Like Amazon n the piss bottles


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Corporations hire prison labor pretty routinely, which literally does bring us to 13th Amendment legal slavery.


talino2321

Oh, I take it you have seen the remodeling done at Twitter since Elon took over.


jadiechappie

Yep, corporates dont give a single crap about us, guys. My “lovely” J1 just cut our benefits for next year. Downgraded from low deductible insurance/extensive network from a big provider to an insurtech company. No more 100% paid maternal leave but forcing us to buy a short term disability policy just to have 60% pay. I’m actively seeking for another J3.


Ok_Independent9119

My J1 used to give out 100% employer paid insurance. We got bought and that was taken away. Our holidays got cut, PTO cut, retirement matching cut. When I went for a promotion they capped the raise for promotions at 5%. Now they're getting ready to force people into the office for meetings, regardless of where you are in the country. I was OE before all of these changes but considering going back to just 1 job, but after one of their meetings talking about these changes I realized I'm never going back


jadiechappie

Same same. I left my J3 recently and was very comfortable with just 2Js until they started to make changes. Before the one I mentioned earlier, they moved our 401k to a tier B plan administrator. I used to have high quality Vanguard index funds and now all are low quality with high expense ratios and front load fees. Basically, it’s an early sign of massive layoffs next year. I was literally rushed to find J3 asap. I dont know how I survived before OE…Keep OE-ing. Good way to save ourselves/family from sinking ships.


JUSTOatl

Are two Js just not enough for you?


jadiechappie

No, especially when J1’s finance is unstable.


Puzzleheaded_Yam3058

A manager at one of my Js had their employment terminated due to failing their probation. They sent me the transcript of their probation meeting and in it they set out all the ways they went above and beyond (staying late, working way beyond their hours, etc) for the company. The company just gave them a dry thanks and still sacked them. Later on in our team chat, this manager tells the rest of us not to go above and beyond for a company because they don’t care. When the company wanted to kick them all their extra hours and going above and beyond didn’t save them. They are in their 40s and only realised this now. Capitalist conditioning is real.


AussieCollector

People need to cut Meta some slack honestly. Zuck really did admit fault for this and the severance package a lot of these software engineers are receiving is absolutely MASSIVE compared to anything anyone at twitter or amazon received. Zuck fucked up, he made a bad call. As a result 11K people were laid off. He admitted fault and as a way to make it up, he did a pretty decent severance package that pretty much puts anything else in corporate america to shame. For those who don't know, many of these workers are walking away with 4 - 6 months of pay + PTO and many other benefits in their pocket. Thats a house deposit considering the salary they were on. But this post is 100% spot on. No matter how hard you work your loyalty means nothing to them. Always be on the look out for better work. No matter what.


JuliusSneezure

Is this good for JuliusCorp?


WiseRelationship7316

And to always remember, the critical business needs are ever changing.


SashOfTopatoes

I’m 43. I work where it is fun. That’s all. When it isn’t fun. I leave. The fuck I gonna waste my limited time on space rock boring myself for some weirdos who think about money all the time? Lmao. People who put money first are Toxic 100% of the time. Figure that out first.


JonathanL73

Most people should’ve learned this in 2008


BrokenHero287

The key is to hide in the middle. The people at the top earning high salaries and doing important work, and the worst performers at the bottom were subjects to Elon's rage, but I doubt he noticed the adequate middle people, and did anything to them.


SoulsDesire4Freedom

Disposable tech workers? #Inconceivable!!!!!


cats_catz_kats_katz

Brah…3 faang man over here talking about corporate overlords, made me laugh a bit.


Just-10247-LOC

My company, major defense corporation - 40 hour weeks, unlimited discretionary PTO and Sick time, all hours over 40 are paid, working on cutting edge highly important defense projects. Fuck Amazon, Google, Facebook and Twitter. We do stuff that's important and we have a work life balance and we pay well.


HoiPolloiAhloi

Nice one


kaaziiii

Yeah no shit businesses will put businesses first what a surprise, how is that depressing


Oisschez

Because when they’re as powerful as they are, that means normal people consistently get fucked


kaaziiii

Unionize


LavenderAutist

Did this guy get let go?


Idonotpiratesoftware

Sadly but true


JeffIpsaLoquitor

I mean, I knew that back in 1995 when I started working, but kudos to this guy for figuring it out and needing a rationale to have his own purpose and life.


Organicsalad123

Im wondering why apple didn’t make that list? They have laid off a lot of people this year due to budgeting.


PinkySneaky77

Facts plus tax


_divi_filius

This was always obvious to those of us paying attention. Good to see the people who called us "disloyal, not-driven etc." are finally waking up to the same obvious facts. Company is family is the biggest grift since "Your pensions/social security is fine hehehe"


MasterButterscotch38

This is getting stuck to my wall!


A_RUSSIAN_TROLL_BOT

All other discussion aside, listing Metaverse and the blue checkmark next to AWS is kinda like listing Rebecca Black and the Annoying Orange next to the Beatles.


WorkingClassPrep

Never put the company first. You are a vendor. You sell your labor. Also never expect a company to do anything but put business first. That's the effing point of a company existing.


logyonthebeat

Ppl In the real world figured this out a longggg time ago kids


BeyondRecovery1

Thanks for this. My sister, who’s a VP at a tech company always preached this shit to me, especially the overworking. I just don’t agree because I got burned so bad by trying to ask for more work at a single company. It backfired to the point that they felt they were overpaying me


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NewcDukem

Not everyone was working age in 2008, cuz ya know... That was 14 years ago. It's still important to remind people.


JonathanL73

I wasn’t working either, I was 14. But it’s kind of hard to ignore the global recession and everybody’s parents getting laid off. I mean by the time I entered in the workforce in 2015, Millenials had already develop a reputation of being job hoppers, as a direct result of this. So by the time 2022 happened, none of this was any brand news to me. I find it hard to believe it’s brand news to anybody else in their 20s-30’s, when recruiters already know we collectively as a generation don’t stay with a company for 10+ years the way older generations _used_ to do.


NewcDukem

Eh, I dunno. I see what you're saying, however I think it's unrealistic to expect everybody to understand current industry rhetoric based on something that far back. Maybe you and I understand, but someone who's 16 today and just entering the workforce and has loyal-to-the-company boomer parents, isn't going to understand this until they've been burned by a few employers. History repeats itself because it is objectively hard to consider all of history's mistakes, which is why we have to continually reaffirm its lessons for those that don't have the same level of understanding or experience.


JonathanL73

Fair enough, and you have a good point.


nighthawk456

This is why you work for a mom and pop store.