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mjmannella

It is so nice to see Tropius walking on the ground again


NeonFurby

I totally expected to see Tropius in the jungle level on my first playthrough


Squish_the_android

I was already surprised at the amount of content in the game. The original was incredibly short.


ButtersTG

^(I don't think you're going this way with your comment, but I want to say this incase someone hasn't played it, and gets the wrong idea) That does not mean that it is not worth a play, there is so much character in every pokemon and even if you get the best picture of one pokemon, you,may find that it has a cooler/cuter thing that it does on another run through, so tge game is short, but not devoid of gameplay.


BaronKlatz

Yeah, even though I finished it as a kid I kept going back to rent it from our local game store over and over again. Great replay value. Oak's responses and the fantastic music helped too. Things prof. Mirror lacks. (And he creeps me out with the "friendly tag" stuff. Some sure okay but a Sharkpedo chasing a Squirtle with it's mouth wide open? At least call it a interesting sight or something less sadistic.)


ButtersTG

However, at least he's got, "It looks like it just got *bopped* by something!"


Praise-SpaceGhost

The music is some of my favorite in a game


BaronKlatz

The new music? Respect. Probably just nostalgia bias for me. I can still hear the old pokemon Snap's lab, cheery beach and ending credits music in my head after all these years.


Praise-SpaceGhost

Oh no I meant the old music. And yeah the lab music and the poke flute music are now stuck in my head.


Dreyfus2006

Short games can absolutely be good, and the original game is great. But it is definitely short.


Rarzhn

I think he meant the n64 game with „original“


ButtersTG

Yes, that's what I was talking about. New Pokemon Snap is already rather extensive before the DLC.


henryuuk

I would even say that the shortness makes it great to go back to several times New pokemon snap is fun too, but I can't see myself ever really returning to it after completing it, unlike 64


TheShaggyGuy

At the beginning I said one thing, please have Gyarados. I was not disappointed.


dunkan799

I was so excited for this game and didn't look up anything until I had beaten the whole game on my own which took a long time. I was so excited to try and find Gyrados on my own and get the same excitement I had from the original. I threw sooooo many fruits into that damn whirl pool and must have played that level at least 200 times trying everything I possibly could before finally caving and looking it up only to find out Gyrados was not in the game. I immediately turned it off and have not touched it again since. This will get me to finally go back and get it 100%


TheShaggyGuy

You almost wrote my experience word for word. Every Magikarp I came across was pelted non-stop with fruit and orbs. I also stopped playing the game but around the halfway mark. Weirdly enough I hopped back on and finished at the beginning of this week, even wrapping up the PhotoDex yesterday. This is a nice surprise for both of us!


MistarEhn

> I threw sooooo many fruits into that damn whirl pool and must have played that level at least 200 times trying everything I possibly could before finally caving and looking it up only to find out Gyrados was not in the game. Dude, same. Maybe not the number of attempts, but with so many Magikarp near whirlpools and waterfalls (and in the game, in general) I figured at least one of them was supposed to have an evolution method. They baited me so hard lmao


johnatello67

Honestly with hindsight, I find it pretty funny that every level had a Magikarp but there were no Gyarados. They trolled us good.


dunkan799

Oh as a fan of the original it really built my excitement up as I was playing through seeing so many magicarp knowing the big Gyrados reveal was gonna be epic. I couldn't wait for it to randomly pop out and when I finally found out it wasnt even in the game I was so disappointed.


johnatello67

That is fair, I think I was just so impressed by the content and game itself, the individual pokemon ended up being less of a factor for me.


dunkan799

Yeah that makes sense. I'm old and have only played the Kanto region games and Gyrados has always been my favorite so that definitely added to it. I did really enjoy the game and it was absolutely loaded with content which was awesome


BaronKlatz

Even the ice level, cold hearted. Only thing missing was a Ditto magikarp/gyarados.


dunkan799

Same! It wasn't until I did a bunch of the challenges and realized none of the ones I had left didn't involve magicarp that I finally looked it up online and was crushed


RQK1996

I hope for more Cyndaquil line


jledzz

According to www.serebii.net this adds 20 new pokemon as well as these 3 new courses with day/night variants: 1. The Secret Side Path of Florio Island Nature Park, which is the miniature level shown in the trailer (idk if this is a new stage entirely or an alt path) 2. The Mightywide River on Belusylva Island, which looks like a raft ride down a river, 3. The Barren Wilderness on Voluca Island, which has both the Onix in the walls and Gulpin’s poison swamp. I really like this update, 20 pokemon over 3 courses doesnt seem like much but given how big the base game is to begin with… gamers won today


Dreyfus2006

Right, 20 Pokémon means 80 different diamond photos to get.


Exval1

I was hoping for haunted course but I'm extremely hype nonetheless. I would be willing to pay for season pass for this pokemon snap game.


Dreyfus2006

AAAAAAAH! Those sons of a bitches! I just put the game down this week finally after 85 hours! Now they're trying to pull me back in! I lost it when the NEO-One turned tiny. Man, what an incredible game. My only disappointment is that there appears to be repeat Pokémon, which is no fun for ones like Metapod whose PhotoDex entries I have already completed. Nice to see Feraligatr complete the Gen. 2 trio! When am I supposed to play this??? TGAAC *just* came out.


yumstheman

[Just when I thought I was out… THEY PULL ME BACK IN.](https://youtu.be/G29DXfcdhBg)


sirmombo

85 hours??????? Seriously?


Dreyfus2006

Game's got a lot of content. I didn't even 100% it, I just got every Pokémon and scored every course.


sirmombo

I have the game but only put about 25-30 hours into it. You sir or madam, are what we in the business call a “finisher”


MossyPyrite

Or maybe a [Completionist](https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCPYJR2EIu0_MJaDeSGwkIVw)


MistarEhn

Filling your photodex and doing all of the request missions takes a very long time. Some of it could be argued as fluff because you’re required to go through the same course at least 4x to get the different star rankings for each mon, but the interactions required to get each one are generally unique on top of the courses themselves changing as you level up. There’s a LOT to do for completionists. I’m not sure of my exact playtime, but I just beat the ‘final boss’ with at least 30 hours and have an insane amount of content left.


EpsilonX

HowLongToBeat has it listed at 10.5 hours for a story-only playthrough, 18.5 hours for story + extra, and 55.5 hours for completionist. The original is 4, 5, and 6, respectively. I can see it taking a *long* time to get all of the requests - I think I've done 11 so far. They're hard to figure out.


onlinelurker

I stopped playing for sometime because the completionist in me was getting stressed with all the missions I couldn’t seem to complete (looking at you, Pidgeot and Magikarp). These updates got me so excited to explore again, to hell with those missions.


LinoleumFairy

I honestly think the requests are one of the best parts of the game. They have so so SO many hidden interactions that go beyond the star system. The pidgeot one involves bonking the pidgeot after it lands on the ledge to the left and then it will fly around and swoop on the magikarp that will otherwise just be flopping around on the right side. Most of them end up being a little in-level puzzle that otherwise would have been just "yeah I have 4* on both of these Pokémon I'll ignore them".


onlinelurker

I know how to do it, I just can’t time the shot, and my left joycon drift just makes it worse.


GR_GreenEye

This is fucking awesome. When it released I was actually hoping there’d be DLC and I was totally fine with paying, but the fact that it’s free is icing on the cake. Thank goodness they finally realized that people loved Snap.


raabyraab

Bandai Namco putting every other Pokemon game developer to shame


AetherDrew43

Legit tho. Those graphics are gorgeous!


liberocinderace

It’s also easy to make the game look good if it’s an on-rails shooter.


Rarzhn

Sure but you can still see that a lot of love was put into it. Can‘t say the same about the mainline Games. They look more and more mashed together which may also be because they don‘t have enough time


Bubblegumking3

Watch you get downvoted for even implying that this game isn’t the second coming of Christ.


liberocinderace

Fortunately, seems like most people here seem to understand that good graphics=/=good game.


JayZsAdoptedSon

@Anthem Seriously, the game was sold on the concept of "beautiful looking game with Iron Man type suits" And the game was so boring and lifeless


Taliasaurus

This is incredible! I already put 20 hours in the game (just filling pokedex not even doing all requests) and now theres even more free content! Bandai Namco deserves to do whatever it wants with the Pokemon liscence


Joegoodall

Why give Bandai Namco more freedom with the Pokemon licence when they can give it to the far superior Tencent /s


backyardserenade

I dunno, these are so vastly different games that the comparison really doesn't hold much value. And for what it's worth, *Unite* is a surprisingly fun game which makes creative use of the IP and stays rather true to its core concepts. Naturally, the freemium model is bad and rarely chosen to benefit players. But that's likely as much TPC's conscious choice as it is Tencent's. Edit: Geez.


Joegoodall

I know they’re very different games but they both have the same licence so you can expect a crossover of fan base. I play and enjoy both games, I was more alluding to the difference in monetisation. Bandi giving free updates where as Tencent are using gross F2P mechanics.


zytherian

Unite can be fun but is absolutely just a cash grab. There is no proper balancing to the different pokemon abilities, you are actively stronger than a newer player at the start of the game for doing nothing more than equipping and upgrading items, and the meta of the game encourages just swarming others with minimal counterplay. It feels like they didnt even try to make it a balanced game, and its only barely playable


Philip_Swiftopher

Bandai Namco should get free reign to do whatever the fuck they want with Pokémon after this.


maximumutility

I was surprised by the amount of content in this game over and over and over again while playing it. Adding new secrets and requests would be one thing, but they're adding entire new areas! It's incredible how much there is to do and find in this game. Wish that the "so all you do is take pictures?" crowd would see that.


radikraze

They’re adding the 64 areas!? Let me go buy this game


Dreyfus2006

To be clear, they are only throwbacks to courses from the original. They are not, in fact, the actual courses.


brotbeutel

Wait a sec…were those the OG maps redone???? That looks like Valley and River! Or am I wrong?


Dreyfus2006

I don't believe they are remade courses from the first game. Just nods to them. There were several clips where the courses didn't look anything like River and Valley.


brotbeutel

Damn…you gotta shoot me down right away like that?


Dreyfus2006

You asked if you were wrong. :P


brotbeutel

Fair.


the_fuego

That's what it looked like to me but it seems that they won't be 1:1 remakes which is perfectly fine. I'm so stoked, Valley was basically my favorite course and had some hype music.


MistarEhn

They for sure aren’t 1:1 remakes level design wise, but there seems to be some definite inspiration for them in terms of the aesthetics and some of the Pokémon present. Metapod hanging from the trees in the ‘River’, Gyarados jumping from a waterfall in the ‘Valley’, etc. I think it’s a way better approach than doing a straight remake. As nice as it would’ve been to see the original levels in HD, part of what makes Snap interesting is the element of surprise that comes with which Pokémon appear.


MatthewHWood

They look like remakes of the N64 maps. I've been sleeping on this title; I need to pick it up when I get some time to play.


AltonIllinois

This is a great surprise. This game is already packed with content.


juggleaddict

If they put a fraction of the effort put in for Snap into the mainline games, they would be so much better. The gameplay choices add a ton of value and replayability. There is just a ton of stuff to do. I think we have roughty 60 hours in it and we're just half way through the requests and not maxed out on all the levels yet. You can spend hours just playing with the photo editor. For going through the same levels over and over, it has a remarkable amount of staying power. I wasn't expecting more but I'm really excited for it.


Nalfgar123

I was expecting for this since it was announced...or a $25-30 DLC. This is great!


JakeoftheWoods

> If they put a fraction of the effort put in for Snap into the mainline games, they would be so much better. That's the difference between an actual, competent developer making a game (Bandai-Namco) vs the hacks at Game Freak.


Tobegi

I mean... lets not get carried away calling Bandai Namco competent either lmao


Breakfast515

Aren't they tho? Between Smash, Tekken, the Tales games, etc that's a pretty good track record.


Tobegi

Didnt know Smash was developed by them! Imo their only competent teams (that I know of) are of course the Smash ones and the Tales of ones. On the other hand you have the guys that made all the God Eater games and Code Vein... All of those feel like mediocre games imo


Dreyfus2006

They had gold with Katamari for a while.


Bubblegumking3

Why are you blaming the devs of Gamefreak of all people?


JakeoftheWoods

Because Game Freak develops the mainline games and the poster was specifically comparing Pokemon Snap (developed by Bandai-Namco) to the mainline games (developed by Game Freak). Why wouldn't I bring up Game Freak in that comparison?


SuprSaiyanTurry

I still need to beat the main story! Guess I should stop trying to play 9,238,473 games at once and just focus on maybe 1 at a time... or 3.


Papa-pwn

This is awesome. Can’t wait!


griffith99

PSYDUCK!!!


HyliasHero

Unexpected, but very welcome.


Bariq-99

Oh damn.. That's a lot *Animal crossing dies in the corner alone*


Dreyfus2006

ACNH got a whole year's worth of updates and has more on the way.


Bariq-99

True But those stuff were already in the game before it (new leaf)


Dreyfus2006

Which just reflects that New Leaf was always the better game.


Bariq-99

Yeah obviously.. But it would have been nice to get them in new horizons too you know? New leaf is great but the freedom of New horizons is much better IMO


KING-Jotaro

Seing as nh also has way more features that were not in previous games, including the entire context of terraforming and changing outside your house, not at all, but go on with your gaslighting about two games you never played, Im sure you have a nice excuse for that.


Dreyfus2006

? I put at least 80 hours into both. More than 100 on ACNH but I don't remember my NL playtime. ACNH has terraforming, but it has significantly less furniture and a lot fewer things to do. It is also missing the ability to pass local laws, which I liked better to customize my town than terraforming.


MichiganCubbie

Most of those updates weren't real updates, just seasonal events.


thelovingbuddha

With stuff that should've been in the base game? Man you're gaslit.


Dreyfus2006

I agree that it should have been in the base game. But updates are updates. ACNH wasn't neglected.


Chunkystick

The fact that we have to say "free content update" nowadays makes me sad.


bigboyshalom

Was there ever a time where “free content update” was more normal than DLC?


Thievie

Your question sounds rhetorical but I'll put in my two-cents anyway: No. In fact, free content updates are pretty new in the grand scheme of gaming due to the availability of internet capability. For the longest time, you got whatever shipped with the disc and that was it. DLC obviously wasn't downloadable but paid content came in the form of expansion packs for games, and were pretty common and around long before free content updates via the internet were feasible. Now the upside was that it also meant that games were always completed and (almost) always bug-free at launch, which is more than you can say for most games nowadays, but in general it kinda annoys me that gamers seem to expect so much free content from developers, especially when they turn this mindset onto indie devs. Just because Eric Barone can afford to keep developing and proving updates for free doesn't mean that all devs can do the same. The amount of entitlement you see in some Steam discussion threads is unreal.


Dreyfus2006

Oh yes, I fully agree with the entitlement. It's normally GOOD when a game doesn't get regular free updates, because it means you own the whole game and it released as a complete package. Regular free updates push games into GAAS-lite territory, like Splatoon (good example) or Mario Tennis Aces (bad example). But it can be nice when games like NEW Pokémon Snap are already complete packages, could easily go without ever being updated, but get a freebie thrown their way with meaningful content (not just a new character or something).


Thievie

Oh yeah for sure, in the particular case of New Pokemon Snap, this is pretty ideal. A game that felt complete at launch that still gets free content to keep players interested. I kinda wish there were more mons included, but hey. I'm not gonna complain about new courses, a new mechanic, and a new legendary. That's great in terms of a content update. But yeah I'm not really sure when people turned around and started to view regular free content updates as the ideal model. I'd usually much rather own the whole game from the get-go. I suppose if the game already feels complete like in the case of Snap then it's just a bonus, but it's just not usually the case in my experience.


RQK1996

Actually, the early trailers of Snap showed that the game was not complete package, Shroomish was shown off in early trailers but not in game till update


Dreyfus2006

I'd just call Shroomish cut content.


RQK1996

It is more like at least 1 course was not done at release, but they had enough to release why they still worked on the last courses, same with Piranha Plant in Smash


RQK1996

What, games in the past were bug free!? Are you seriously going to say a game like Ocarina of Time or Mario 64 are bug free? Games you can quite easily break progression in with not even that difficult bugs to exploit, compare to Breath of the Wild or Odyssey, those are not nearly as buggy, sure there are bugs, but everything has bugs


Thievie

Well Nintendo still ships out completed and bug tested games at launch most of the time (Looking at you, ACNH). I'm talking the average game of the past (not just Nintendo but early PC games, PS2 games, etc) compared to how games now are released in early access chock full of bugs and in an unfinished state, and sometimes stay in EA for years. And I didn't say completely bug free, as a lot of my favorite games had fun glitches to exploit, but those are different than game-breaking bugs, games that constantly crash, etc - things which are more common nowadays imo. Moreover, I never said that bugs were necessarily a bad thing- I get the development process and why they exist especially in Early Access games. I'm just saying it's a bit of a give and take. The whole "release a game in early access and then provide free content for years while we finish the game" model is great for certain devs, great for gamers that get bored without content updates, but once in a while I get frustrated and just want to play a game that's actually finished and mostly free of bugs. But this is all tangential to my main point anyway.


veczey

Wow I completely forgot this game came out already, is it worth the buy?


Monandobo

It’s a very faithful sequel to the original with a lot of charm, solid visuals, and better replayability than you might expect. So if the basic concept appeals to you, I would say yes.


veczey

Okay sweet thanks! :)


jepyang

Personally, yes. If you played the original and enjoyed it, then it’s absolutely a purchase. If not…it’s kind of a weird concept for a game but it’s done quite well. If you’re into Pokémon and you like games where the primary loop is repeatedly trying to improve your high score, then go for it.


veczey

Okay thanks! Unfortunately I never played the original D:


Dreyfus2006

Let me put it this way. Breath of the Wild is the only original game for the Switch that's better. If you like Pokémon or biology (especially on the ecology side), it's a must-buy.


veczey

Really that good? Okay I’m for sure going to get it now :)


App1eSeed

Still waiting on some new, free Mario Golf content.


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Bubblegumking3

Literally any post on this sub that even slightly mentions Pokémon has the entire thread turn into “Gamefreak bad”


Kristiano100

yep


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Dreyfus2006

You say that as if we don't also love Pokémon. :/ When you see something that you love start to lose its way, you should speak up about it. Not saying that every comment section should be an excuse to rant about Dexit. But you seem to be implying that people who criticize something don't love it when in fact, in these circles, it is typically the complete opposite.


ActionFilmsFan1995

Sweet! More of our favorite Pokémon to interact with! *Now let’s fix Dexit*


MichiganCubbie

Are they adding the Bunny Day event to Snap, or would this be the fireworks update?


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Mfw New snap got better dlc than SwSh


Kristiano100

it's only 3 new maps with 20 new pokemon, I dont think it compares to swsh's dlc...


Dreyfus2006

Certainly seems better to me! But I didn't play SwSh's DLC, didn't seem to be worth it. So I am ill informed.


TopOfAllWorlds

swsh final dlc is probably better but it costs money so it's not really fair to compare it like that. Swsh first dlc was pretty sub par though.


mismatched7

Sword and shield second dlc was so fun. Add so much replayability to the game. I have played it for many many hours were friends. Dynamax adventures are probably one of my favorite features in any Pokémon game


Hereiamhereibe2

This game is weird for me. As a kid I put tons of hours into the original. It was so cool seeing pokemon in their natural habitat and Rail shooters were a lot more common back then. Now this game just reminded me that mainline pokemon games can be so much prettier and rail shooters feel very clunky by todays standards. Im glad people are enjoying it and they are still releasing content but I literally didn’t even feel like playing past the first hour for this.


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OwnManagement

Mew is in the base game.


EpsilonX

Perfect timing, I got the game a few weeks ago and I was just starting to get bored with it.


liberocinderace

My boy Feraligatr is back.


Kevinatorz

Truly pleasantly surprised with this.


BoneHead796

Mew Pokémon snap


Stormrycon

I was completely expecting any extra content being paid DLC, quite surprising that it's a free content update Also answers why Shroomish was in the trailer but not the game


TopOfAllWorlds

Idk if they realize we woulda paid like 5 to 10 bucks for this ez


JaseAndrews

I just got this game last week and am already feeling like there's so much to do with the requests and the star ratings...and now there's even more content coming! So glad I decided to buy. \^^


Kitchen_Pattern7234

So excited! 🤩


Sculker

Okay then, guess the game just got a little less irrelevant for me.


zig_zaz

Ok cool, now what about Mario Golf?? I need more courses!!!!!


mjmannella

We know at the very least a New Donk City course is being added via update


zig_zaz

Really eh?? Sweet! How do you know this. Where can I get reliable updates on this kinda thing?


mjmannella

[This was mentioned in E3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ePrWcWJm8E&t=1m5s)


TopOfAllWorlds

the game just came out


zig_zaz

So did Pokémon snap


TopOfAllWorlds

snap came out over 3 months ago. Golf came out a month ago.