By - nfl_gamethread
Rodgers threw his 3rd endzone interception
They’re really not fucking around with head injuries now, that’s good at least
Of course the mods are inept 🙄
Fuck it. We party here until we get a game thread. The mods are mething things up.
[Link to RedZone thread until it's pinned @mods](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/xtnmex/game_thread_game_hubredzone_week_4/)
They have to start throwing on early downs.
OCTOBER IS PICK 6 SZN
Mods, wake up
Is this the redzone thread then?
Why is this thread still stickied? Where is the Game Hub thread?
Miss watching games this early! Hawaiian time
Wait a second. Explain what you mean here. Are normal 1 o’clock games on at 9am in Hawaii?
7am for the noon games the goes to 8 with day light savings our sunday night games are on at 2pm lol its kinda nice honestly
I think it’s earlier it’s a 6 hour time zone difference from EST so 1 o clock games would be 7 am?
Yes 7am then 8 during daylight savings
It's the same in Alaska. The early games are at 9 am.
Post game commentary doesn’t even acknowledge the bad calls. It’s like they’re totally aware but gotta carry the water for the NFL and pretend that the refs didn’t blatantly alter the gameplay to favor the Vikings.
Hey, member BountyGate? We member.
Ya'll Voodoo'd the '09 game by selling your souls for life.
(We got a hella ref push)
When you put it like that it sounds worth it lol
Can they tone it down with the sound effects lmao
I agree I was listening on headphones and they were too much.
NFL Network really trying to say Kirk Cousins stepped up today
He had a bad pick yes, but also two dropped TDs (one by JJ and one by Mundt), for once I think he played better than his stat sheet showed. He made some nice plays despite being under pressure all game. He really showed he is a top... uhh, 14 QB in the league today.
What was the dropped TD by JJ? and actually Mundt for that matter?
I only saw a poorly thrown ball by Kirk behind JJ in the end zone, and a very bad drop by Mundt that would have likely been 1st and goal, not a touchdown.
That “drop” by JJ is something 99% of WR in the NFL drop as well. It is difficult when on a good run into space the quarterback throws it 4 feet in behind the trajectory of your run and instead closer to the man in coverage.
Compared to his typical prime time performance, he was pretty good -- not that that's a high bar to meet.
How do field goals actually work? Because that ball actually crossed the plane but somehow got bounced back. At what point is a field goal a field goal?
From the rules:
>The entire ball must pass through the vertical plane of the goal, which is the area above the crossbar and between the uprights or, if above the uprights, between their outside edges. If the ball passes through the goal, and returns through the goal without striking the ground or some object or person beyond the goal, the attempt is unsuccessful.
The entire ball must be through, then touch a non-goal object.
Has to go all the way through.
*and land on the ground on the side too, how much would that suck to have a long kick hit the crossbar, clearly bounce over the plane but have the wind blow that bitch back?
That would be wild and a new entry in the ‘what is a…?’ Series.
Karma continues Saints.
Karma for what?!?! I’m eagerly waiting you copium take
He's still holding on to bountygate like it didn't happen over a decade ago
And Brett Favre is a POS
Like Darren Sharper wasn’t one of the better players on your defense.
Yet the Vikings had a bounty program of their own, and Brett Favre is a ultra POS for stealing from the poor.
I don’t give a flying fuck about bounties or Brett Favre
You’re crying about Sharper who played on the Super Bowl team and your team years prior, why bring him up then? Lmaoooo deflection is real.
Enjoy being 1-3. You’ll never be a relevant football team again. 1 win and it was barely clearing the Falcons.
Lmao like it matters, y’all can’t win a Super Bowl
Well, since the Vikes appear likely to never win a SB, I suspect the saltiness will be for life for the fans who remember.
Well arguably your only super bowl win was the result of bounty gate. I think you guys have more than payed for that debt in many heart breaks and bad calls since, y'all definitely out played us today without a doubt.
Also Brett Favre stole millions from Mississippi citizens so
Dont try to argue with them. Their brains are froze and full of Cousin copium.
Did Cousins drop those 2 TD passes? And hasn't he lead back-to-back game winning drives? What...what are we supposed to be coping?
Against the lions and half the saints it’s really looking up for him
I mean, with that argument, you can't really lose? You basically set up a situation where, lets say the Vikings did end up losing, you could still shit on Cousins for losing to "half the Saints"
So, if he wins, well, so fucking what, it was against some backups, but if he loses, haha, what a fuckstick, he can't beat the backups?
You're setting up a scenario where no matter what, you shit on Cousins.
I'll enjoy today's win, though.
Refs will be enjoying it just as much.
I can't deny there were some bad calls but this is simply a case of counting the hits.
The Vikings were on the good side of some flags, particularly that hands to the face call, however, there have been games where the Vikings have been obviously screwed over by the refs, too.
I hate it when it happens, yes, even if my team gets the good end of the stick, but it does go both ways in this case.
And the Vikings keep getting their Karma -- getting their asses handed to them by the Eagles, who never had any questionable history, controversies, or bounty history. /s
You know. Looking forward to the next Minneapolis Miracle.
Y’all won the Super Bowl that year huh?
Take the L.
That the luck
Salty about bountygate still
Did you know the Vikings had a bounty program to injure the other teams hest players at that time too?
Bro I don't really care either. That was over ten years ago. But there are Minnesota fans that still hate the saints for bountygate mostly because it had a direct impact in the playoffs.
But… the Vikings had the same program going. So all those Vikings fans that are salty about it are hypocritical bitches.
Such a shame that the saints cheated by uh… hitting ball carriers
Vikings do not seem like a 3-1 team
New system on both offense and defense. We need time to gel.
Weak defense and problems on the O-line. Not a good recipe for being a contender.
Should be 1-3 to be honest. The other two victories feel gifted
That’s NFL football in a nutshell though. Come playoff time the wildcard round is always a crap shoot of teams that won their +/- 3pt games.
It’s the best.
I will not argue with this.
Agreed but I’ll take it
Yeah, are we the luckiest 3-1 team ever?
They’re not really
Only time we have is when we played Green Bay
Pity they had Man City vs Man Utd EPL game at same time, no one in UK was watching this game until the last quarter
That's not a bad thing. The 4th quarter was the best part of the game.
As a United fan I was definitely watching this instead.
They really should have had the Bills and Ravens play there honestly. Would have been prime time for UK fans, normal 1 o’clock game for the Americans, and hopefully a good fucking game. They have to stop giving the UK fans a bunch of shitters if they want to grow the game.
I don’t want my boys to have to deal with that red eye shit
It is but I wish I watched this one ffs
Formula 1 clashed too, not ideal
Haha I clicked around a bit there and this was the top link, I love seeing bullshit artists being backed into a corner.
Fuck morning games lol
Idk I’m drunk
Mark Sanchez was so desperate to make that vinegar in Fish and Chips or Bangers and Mash line work.
Just needed to top it off with a Dave Anthony-esque "ELLO GUVNAH!" and we would've had the Brit-fecta.
If I were a British/Irish/Scottish/Welsh NFL fan, I'd definitely be insulted, lol.
Mark Sanchez was pushing a lot of dumb phrases this morning...
Did he ever mention the "Bum Fumble"?
Glad the Brits were treated to one of our greatest exports, the double doink^tm
Absolutely disgusting job by the refs today. Sad to see.
Refs got it to end right at +/- 3.5 for vegas though
The ball didn't bounce the way I expected it to twice.
Well this team is 3-1 so that's cool. Not sure how or why.
We don’t deserve it but I’ll take it.
The Vikings didn't deserve this win.
But, as always, the Saints can suck eggs.
Who's the girl?
another ugly win... Will take it.
If you don’t like that, you don’t like Vikings football baby!!!
I wonder if Vegas has a line for points scored for a team by referees?
Refs got it right at the +/- 3.5 though so they nailed it
O/U was 8.5
Green Bay would be an instant over.
it’s gonna be a good football week tho
That Broncos and Raiders game though. I’m kind of scared lol
me too but i’m confident surtain can shut down davante adams. i’m expecting another defensive shit show
Well the Raiders defense isn’t that good IMO. Thats Broncos offense will just make them look good because of how bad they are. If they can get it together, Broncos are taking the win. The real game will be with the Raiders offense and Broncos defense
this is the game where the broncos have to get it together. if we win and the bucs beat the chiefs we are leading the division.
Why? Weve had one games ruined by the Zebras and were not even into the afternoon games?
Lol how is a 9ers fans this salty over the refs this game
Because everyone sees
yeah no broncos are beating you
man fuck mg3
Will the saints ever repay the bounty gate debt? I think not.
Such a shame that the Saints cheated by uh.. tackling players.
Especially that upstanding citizen that played QB for the Vikings that year. Brett Færbve? Wonder what he’s been up to, probably some really good and kind thing s
This is the most tired, uninspired, old take on Reddit football history. Every team, including the Vikes, gave performance bonuses for big hits. Every D coordinator uses the language of “We gotta go out there and kill him/them.” When a guys ankle is testy, people smack it, when a guys playing with a cast on his arm like Demarco Murray a few years ago? Players target it. Nothing the Saints did was out of the ordinary. The NFL was getting heat for player safety with the Concussion scandal and the Saints became a scapegoat so the NFL could show they were doing something. Did that stop Tua from going out there Thursday? Fuck no. The NFL doesn’t fucking care, they just wanna cash the checks. But as long as idiots like you keep regurgitating the same worn out bullshit like this, making it the fault of ONE team in the entire league, then the NFL continues on Scott free.
Convenient retraction even though he’s still quoted as saying this.
"Only thing I told him as far as specifics was I had been part of a meeting where players were amongst ourselves as part of a unit," Hicks told the Star Tribune. "We kind of felt like the last time we played the team, they kind of did some dirty things to our running back or quarterback. When we played them again later in the year it was, 'Hey, when you get a chance to get this guy, dinner is on me.' That was as detailed as I got. Again, it was never any specifics on what team I was with or anything like that."
Unless Sean Peyton is drawn and quartered, no
Thank you for the giggle
I honestly think the refs and the league in general are still sour at them
What I got from this game is the Saints are better than their record, but they are held back by QB play. While the Vikings are a little worse than their record because their QB can only play well when no one is watching...
Vikings fans trying to figure out how to sabotage the broadcast trucks every week.
Hmmm. Thats well said
I woke up just in time to see the end. WOW!!
Double Doink 🤝 Benefitting the Eagles
Always love to see the fans in England get a good show. Their faces at the end said it all. Great for the sport.
I agree. Nice to have good (or at least close) games in London. Tough to explain to the casual fans what DPI means though. Next time send the varsity refs.
Not my experience at all this actually in my years making my mates watch NFL games with me. DPI is pretty intuitive especially if they've watched rugby as you're not allowed to do basically the same in that.
Makes sense. I don’t know the rules to rugby but obviously a spot foul like that can have a major impact on a game. It sucks to see a game being dictated on a questionable pass interference call (or non-call). If it’s frustrating for a long-time fan, I can imagine how seeing that for someone learning the game would throw their hands up.
Definitely cool seeing fans in another country getting into it! It’s always entertaining for me to see how many different teams are represented in the stands.
I'll never understand why coaches aren't rushing 0 and dropping 11 into coverage when the other team has the ball deep in their own territory with less than 30 seconds. Let the the QB run around for 10+ seconds trying to find someone open, that works to your advantage.
Honestly. Sometimes feeling the pressure of the pass rushers is what signals the QB to throw the ball away. Don’t give him that, just make him waste time.
If you don't get any pressure they can stay in the pocket until the DBs get tired. Good coverage is marrying pass rush with cover concepts, one without the other almost always results in failure.
Let them run around for 20 seconds, game is over at that point
Pretty easy to tell which fans have never played football.
I did play high school football as a safety and I still don't understand why you would rush anyone. Take that Bills Chiefs playoff game as an example: They drop 11 in coverage and there aren't any quick passes for 25 yards available.
There's only around 11 DBs on an NFL roster and some of those guys have no business seeing the field if your even halfway healthy. With 8 in coverage you are covering a huge majority of the field and with an even halfway decent pass russ you only have to cover for 3-4 seconds. You don't even half to get home because it forces QBs to use their internal clock because they know the rush is coming...
If you let someone run around that long without any pressure all it takes is one guy to slip or get tired or lose concentration.
Arguably the most important point against that is nobody practices that and even if they did practice a few times a year or briefly in training camp, players are much more comfortable doing shot they're repped a million times. You want to play your best 11 guys running a play they can run in their sleep and limit the amount of time they can fuck that up. Not the last guy on your roster who signed 3 weeks ago running a play they've never practiced that lasts 10+ seconds.
Okay use 4 lbs and 7 dbs, which is what I was thinking anyway. If the QB takes 9 seconds to throw the ball you've already won as long as it isn't for a 70 yard TD.
Penalties. Untimed downs. Guys falling, guys running plays and positions they never practice. How many risks do you think is acceptable?
The goal of a coach is to put their players in a position to succeed while limiting their opportunities to make mistakes. There's a reason teams almost never run stuff like that, don't make the mistake of thinking you know more than people who have spent thousands of hours mastering the game. If you were an upstart head coach with a bunch of wins then people might pay attention to you for thinking outside the box, but you're a random person on Reddit.
It's still the logical play in this very specific situation. I'm not saying on hail mary situations, I'm saying to do it when teams need 40 yards in less than 20 seconds or whatever. Players have played this, you could literally tell the corners to cover the sideline like they normally do, run a deep cover 3 and still have 6 other guys to drop and cover the rest of the field, maybe do outside leverage and off man coverage with 5 of them and a guy in the middle to tackle any of those downfield screen plays where the rest of the wrs block while one catches behind it.
Because then you can run 30 yards on a QB draw and run out of time
You can usually run and then clock it with like 20 seconds or even 15 if you do a quick qb sneak dive.
okay let them gain 10 yards in the middle of the field.
good job REFS
great win for the REFS today
For real. We were gifted and still tried our best to lose.
They’ll be on theESPN top 10 tomorrow morning.
Besides a few terrible calls, I’d imagine Goodell is quite pleased with the game overall on an international scale
I think he’s okay with the terrible calls. Game would have been less exciting at the end without them.
Colleen is so pretty
Stop jacking it.
I’m not jacking it. You’re jacking it
We did everything possible to lose that game. SKOL THOUGH
I literally feel nothing. A win isn't a win in this case.
Meh, we lose games like this just as often. That's football
It's 3-1, doesn't matter who or how
Man, it looked good in the air too, can you imagine how badass he’d feel hitting back to back 60+ yarders?
Game game, refs fuck us but what's new. On the bright side, Olave is going to be a star.
Refs try to not rig a game challenge, level impossible
ESPN is busy crowning Kirk Cousins the NFC favorite after this win. 😂
Gawd I hope not, that was atrocious
That was close af
DOUBLE DOINK MOTHERFUCKAAAAA
This was extra guys. -Nfl Network
Good ole double doink
Fuck that. Nothing exciting about refs giving a game away.
Lmao, you don’t say
lol damn it
That ball was like half in. I’m fine for giving the saints two points for it just to be sporting.
Looks like someone had Saints +2.5....jk
Very polite. I'll take it.
Why are Saints-Vikings games always instant classics
Hate and history. Pulls out the best on both sides.
LUTZ. SIDE POST. NO GOOD :(
Fucking Minnesota tanked my fucking parlay right out of the gate. What insufferable turds.