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[Rapoport] Big lift for Indy: #Colts LT Eric Fisher, whose recovery from a torn Achilles happened faster than anyone imagined, is expected to start Sunday vs. the #Rams, source said. The Pro Bowler debuts to protect Carson Wentz.

[Rapoport] Big lift for Indy: #Colts LT Eric Fisher, whose recovery from a torn Achilles happened faster than anyone imagined, is expected to start Sunday vs. the #Rams, source said. The Pro Bowler debuts to protect Carson Wentz.

jaathey

How the hell do you recover from a torn Achilles in 7 months?


ryanwc18

Apparently by rehabbing right away instead of waiting months to do it. I believe that is the technique/approach they are using now for Achilles injuries.


bburchibanez

I bet those first few rehab sessions are painful as fuck.


ryanwc18

Yeah when I say right away, I’m not sure how soon it is but I cant imagine rehabbing this kind of injury being easy at all.


WakingRage

Especially when you're a 6'7" 300+ lb offensive lineman. They have to move their feet a ton and bear a lot of weight/pressure when blocking.


imped4now

***Minutes*** after the initial injury.


MenacingAlgebro

They basically put you on the stretcher and then wheel you directly to the physical rehab center lol


Potential_Hornet_559

Lol, the operation room might be built right inside the rehab center.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

can confirm, the pain i had during the start of rehab was worse than the actual injury


rugger87

I’d cry.


thegypsyqueen

I tore mine two years ago. Did the accelerated rehab and no pain at all but it was very annoying and tedious.


mrtrollmaster

No joke, they call it "pre-hab" or pre-surgery rehab


13143

I think they've learned that if they start rehabbing sooner and get the athlete working out sooner, the ligaments tend to heal in the direction they're meant to be used. If they wait, like they traditionally did, the ligaments tend to heal in a criss-cross pattern, which makes the recovery process longer and less effective. I'm not a doctor, this is just what I've read in other reddit comments about ligament/tendon tears. Basically in the last 5 or 10 years there's been a sort of revolution in how major tears are treated. Also, these procedures are still only really available for millionaire athletes and organizations. If I tore my Achilles, I'd probably still be fucked.


sunburn95

A player in my citys rugby league team in Aus came back 8 months after an achilles tear and had a career best season. Its at a position that requires a lot of explosive movement, contact and change of direction too Achilles have come a long way E: just checked, he (connor watson) actually tore his achilles July 26 2020 and played in the first game the following preseason February 26 2021, so under 8 months.


hyperbolical

Gone are the days of getting struck by an arrow and just fucking dying.


ipeedtoday

That can still happen too.


[deleted]

7-8 months is still the outlier on the low end of the recovery time required.


sunburn95

Used to be 12 months, certainly shorter than that now on average


ChubbyKidBuu

Tore my achilles as a junior in HS, did track and Volleyball. Came back to full action in 8 months. My physio was excellent and I was a workout psycho, still blew everyones mind though. Can't imagine be a lineman and doing that though....fuck me.


ironiclynotfunny

I’m sure your age played a big factor in that


WackassVegetables

*Slant boi has left the chat*


IWantAKitty

Not quite the same but I fractured my elbow last year and the doctor I had wanted me to start the rehab immediately. Fractured it on Sunday and had my first rehabs session Tuesday. The first few weeks were absolute hell on earth. Elbow was fully functional after about 10 weeks though so I’m happy we went that route.


Not_Evil_

Brandon Brooks did something similar - tore his achilles in mid-January 2019 and then suited up for week 1 basically without missing a beat. Apparently medical staffs found a way to get that fast turnaround.


AaronDonaId

Reminds me of Whitworth tearing his MCL midseason last year and returning. He’s 6’8 and 39 years old(turning 40 this year)


Tibbroar

Jerry Rice tore his ACL and MCL week 1 of the '97 season. Deciding that being by far the best receiver of all time wasn't enough of a resume he decided that he would add medical marvel to his list of accomplishments and returned in week 16.


shanahan49

GOAT has to GOAT


AaronDonaId

Holy shit, that’s crazy I never knew that, thanks for informing me


pizzapasta_Pepperoni

💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉 and more 💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉 and more 💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉


Simpleton216

We already learned he's afraid of needles.


floyd3127

Funny enough Eric Fisher apparently hasn't gotten one particularly important 💉


GarfunkelBricktaint

Give him a break it took him all off-season to complete his research on the long term effects of using HGH to recover from an injury so that you can slam your body into other 300lb men at 20mph for 3 hours every Sunday.


dagreenman18

For all the crap they take otherwise why does no one just happen to slip in a Vax and tell them it’s a steroid? They’re not gonna know.


rockiesfan4ever

Lawsuit


Nikv1k

Cus fuck medical ethics, amirite? Those dumb football players are just beef cakes to inject whatever doctors want into. Informed consent? Informed deez nuts. Seriously though, pro-vaxx hysteria in English speaking world is getting ridiculous, and I am saying it as a vaxxed pro-vaxxer.


dontmakemechirpatyou

wtf dude


BlackMathNerd

The medical practitioner that did that would lose their license so fast


IAmNotKevinDurant_35

As a Warriors fan, can we get some of these magic injections shipped to Klay Thompson's house?


joshallenismygod

HGH Probally.


BarcodeZebra

>HGH ~~Probally~~ definitely.


SBFVG

I’m all for it


EnjoyWolfCola

Axel Witsel (Soccer player) tore his Achilles last January and played in the Euros this summer. It was just over 5 months after the injury. Sometimes the body does crazy things.


BigPeeOn

Especially a huge guy over 30. Crazy stuff like this used to be career ending (or at least career limiting with guys never looking the same after), and now the expectation is you can make it back in under a year.


PleaseDontSendDwigt

We drafted him #1 overall for his healing super powers. He just didn't need them much with us.


GarfunkelBricktaint

He actually didn't and just plans to play on 1 leg figuring it can't be worse than what the backup did last week.


Rt1203

If you’re looking for a serious answer, the Athletic had a great article on the changes in the Achilles rehab process and why the Colts are so comfortable signing and drafting so many guys with Achilles injuries. https://theathletic.com/2600367/2021/05/20/colts-confident-about-multiple-achilles-recoveries-but-should-they-be-doctors-weigh-in/?source=user_shared_article


MEMKCBUS

Is marlon Mack back yet? If so how has he looked?


nocturnalis

HGH or whatever the Russians gave Artur Dalaloyan.


moomoomistacow

Steroids.


whatsinthesocks

You don't use steroids when comes to healing and rehabbing tendon injuries. That's the opposite of what you want to do


GarfunkelBricktaint

Some steroids are amazing for that. Also HGH which the league doesn't even test for.


whatsinthesocks

They're really not. https://nydnrehab.com/blog/steroid-treatment-for-tendon-pain-help-or-hindrance-in-rehab/


GarfunkelBricktaint

That's about corticosteroids. Totally different from steriods like testosterone, deca/nandrolone, etc that people would take for performance enhancement and sometimes recovery from injuries. Other PEDs like HGH, TB500, BPC157 and IGF-1 have shown some promise and and a lot of people swear by them for injury recovery. Fisher would almost be dumb not to be trying some of those as I don't think the league even tests for them Why are you arguing when you literally don't even know what steriods are?


whatsinthesocks

>Totally different from steriods like testosterone, deca, nandrolone, etc that people would take for performance enhancement and sometimes recovery from injuries. You do not take steroids to recover from tendon injuries. Nandralone/Deca is an anabolic steroid which increase the risk of tendon injuries. >Other PEDs like HGH, TB500, BPC157 and IGF-1 have shown some promise and and a lot of people swear by them for injury recovery. These are not steroids.


GarfunkelBricktaint

Dog 2 seconds ago you didn't even know enough about steroids to google the right thing to find an article that was actually about steriods and not an anti inflammatory drug with a similar name but sure share your extensive knowledge you've angrily googled since then.


whatsinthesocks

Cortisol is a steroid. Care to share any steroids that actually help in the healing of tendon injuries?


fleejol33

Lmao dude you got WRECKED


Throwawayact1050

B U I L T D I F F E R E N T


GeorgeEliotsCock

Nah he just wanted it more


Throwawayact1050

Exactly


[deleted]

Drugs.


O-Genius

Hard knocks better be showing this foot magic going on there


Malfrus

Don't worry, our RT is out with a foot injury now. We just trade feet.


__BIG_MEATY_CLAWS__

Confirmed Frank Reich foot fetish


Pktur3

*Rex Ryan has entered the chat.*


tuepm

I have this theory that they were supposed to be on the regular hard knocks but had to push it back so they could do secret crazy foot shit. jerry stepped in with the cowboys because hard knocks is his thing. this would also explain why the team was announced so late compared to other seasons.


DTSportsNow

Awesome, wish Big Fish the best. Hope he kills it out there for Wentz's sake.


imped4now

He's going to have to today.


AGMOTM

Wow I have no clue how but this couldn’t come at a better timing


godofthebuns

Oh man, that's awesome! Good luck to Fish. I hope he balls out and is never bothered by it. That would be dope.


Drunkn_Cricket

I hope he takes on whoever is opposite of Floyd :P


UrkelGrue1

Don't worry bro their gonna line Floyd up on our recently signed practice squad RT all day


VolunteerCowboy

Is that even legal?


horse_renoir13

He made it legal


CookyHS

how????


RobbieAnalog

HGH is a helluva drug


proneisntsupine

Ah, the Peyton Manning method


TouchdownTom

Wait I thought it was Peyton's wife's method


MrKittenz

They’ve changed Achilles rehab. You used to sit around and do nothing for months but now they find that if you start rehab sooner it all goes way better. TL;DR Achilles injuries aren’t as devastating as they were a couple of years ago


StockBroker32

How the hell? Good for him that’s super helpful for the Colts hope he doesn’t rush into it and doesn’t injure himself again.


DJ_Brown_SUGAR

First Indy stole the team, now I think they're straight up stealing body parts from Baltimore


DirectTV_AndrewLuck

Well Baltimore is a very giving city, they even gave us their team decades ago!


Jack_StNasty

They'll even give you lightly used needles, bullets, and they throw trash right in the harbor so you can catch a half drank Gatorade to go along with your fish.


MrKittenz

Even forced them to leave by trying to steal them from their owners.


TouchdownTom

They've got some of that deer antler spray Ray used


2ent1n_Qarant1no

Godspeed Fun fact the Chiefs have lost exactly one game in the past two years when Fisher played


ListenBeforeSpeaking

Too bad the right tackle, Braden Smith , was injured this week and is out.


swagmoney10

Didn't Wentz and Nelson also recovery from their injuries sooner than expected? Colts med staff for pro bowl 👨‍⚕️👩‍⚕️ 🏅


McRawffles

Hopefully it's revolutionary rehab and not them being rushed back.


require_borgor

Haha like we would ever rush someone back from injury


usernameisusername57

It's buttloads of HGH.


MrKittenz

Unless you actually looked into the injuries and why they went faster.


MrKittenz

With wentz and Nelson it’s people not understanding what was wrong. They had basic surgery to remove a bone fragment floating around. They just had to wait on the wound to heal and done. The 12 weeks was given in case there were complication ins urgent like accidentally cutting a tendon or muscle. With fisher, Achilles rehab has totally changed in the last 2 years. It’s no longer a career killer and rehab is way faster.


Triple_Entit

Gotta give them some props, but the severity of these injuries just isn't anywhere close. Removal of what is essentially a foreign body vs. ACL repair recovery. That upper end of the Wentz/Nelson timeline was just absurd assuming the players weren't taking horrible care of the incision and the surgeon wasn't a butcher


Nikv1k

Yes. The staff that ruined Peyton and Luck and whose long term effect on Wentz, Nelson and Fisher is yet to be determined. Absolute all-stars.


MrKittenz

What long term affect could Nelson and wentz have? You really have no idea what you’re talking about here


Nikv1k

Yep. Sure. Rushing a player back after a surgery or forcing to play through injury can have no negative effects on their long term health. Its simply impossible. Never happened in Colts history. Their medical staff has a spotless record, yes siree.


MrKittenz

Yes it did happen. It’s not happening here and not the same medical staff, owner or coach


TheUltimate721

Good on him! Wishing the big fish well.


MistakeMaker1234

Hell yeah. Go get ‘em, Big Fish.


skengdri

what kind off magic are the Indy doctors using 😂


Jedi_Master_Cena

The Miz must have taught how to heal is ACL fast


__BIG_MEATY_CLAWS__

What?


Forrest319

I thought his was gong to be ready for the start of the season. So I guess I missed it by a week


Malfrus

probably would have if he didn't get covid.


MrKittenz

It’s true. His rehab schedule was ramping up and was thrown off at the end


YiMyonSin

11.75 games for Wentz to play.


rsmseries

Just keep him safe please. At least until week 13 or something.


Malfrus

Out RT is out and Pryor is starting tomorrow against Aaron Donald. Take that how you will.


just_saiyan_bro

Rip wentz.


MumkeMode

By gawd thats leonard floyds music


EricKillMongerz

Aaron Donald 8 Sack Game incoming


Ballsohardstate

My Colts futures 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈


Security_Six

C'mon colts, do it for Andrew, Peyton, Dwight, James, Harrison, Reggie and T. Y. Destroy those lambs 52 - 35


llcooljake93

Colts legend Dwight Schrute


AZBlue19

Wentz is still gonna shit the bed


Jeffthebarbarian

For gambling purposes is this moving the line?


bbaIla

No, Aaron Donald and Ramsey still playing I think.


BrandoDaSavage

Eric came back, Braden Smith is out. Seems like a push.


aneyefulloffish

As long as he keeps Carson safe for 75% of the games, I'm excited for this.


Throwawayact1050

Haters in shambles


Throwawayact1050

*Insert muscle flex emoji*


No-Name-For-U

That's a miracle or damned close!


DillaVibes

All these colts are recovering so quickly from their injuries this season


FreezeSnakePit

"All these colts" is the problem here. We heal 2 and 4 get injured.


UrkelGrue1

For example, see braden smith


ChoppedandScrewd

Yeah but they missed out on abducting Jason Peters from the retirement home so he can get 5 snaps before having to leave the game


squatch42

>faster than anyone imagined [Not everyone](https://youtu.be/0voOemp7Dhs). According to him he is a month behind schedule.


imped4now

If only we could have ***both*** starting tackles today...


v4vendetta

Hope Carl Lawson is on a similar rehab regimen!


B4rtBlu3

So no Matt pryor "protecting" Wentz? He might actually survive sunday against the rams dline then.


Greenmachine98

I hope he is fully recovered and gets back up to Pro Bowl level. The man was great for us. I think he got a bad rap because he was a number 1 pick when there wasn't a great option in the draft that year. As a Chiefs fan I wish him well in his journey.


sublimeone

Thank the sweet, sweet little Baby Jesus.


__sonder__

Damn so 2 of their best linemen are coming back this week after being injured... They're either gonna be fresh and dominate the LOS or they'll be rusty and allow 99 to get 3 sacks. I don't see any in between, really.


BigNnThick

LFG. Never forget the beer shower Fisher


MortifyingMilkshake

Why the fuck didn't we sign him


DrugsNSlumnz

Pushed too fast because our other OTs are dogshit. I look forward to the 2nd qtr seeing a reinjury because we forced it.


munkysnuflz

...kinda sus that the Colts have had 3 consecutive "faster than anyone predicted" recoveries I'm sure that won't affect them negatively in any way


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Gnux13

Seems like Achilles procedures are catching up quickly like how ACL reconstruction is now compared to just 10-15 years ago.


msdstc

not too long ago achilles was seen as a 2 year injury minimum and likely the end of any explosiveness. It's definitely caught up to ACL surgeries quite a bit, but this is remarkable no matter how you spin it. Wish him the best out there.


__BIG_MEATY_CLAWS__

Yeah, it is. The dude blew his Achilles like 6-7 months ago and he is now starting week 2


Mr_Beer_Pizza

Wentz is going to have to find a new excuse for his play now.