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Ballet dancers are some of the most hardcore athletes out there.
Have seen what their feet look like? So much pain endured for their elegance.
Given our modern technology, there must be some way to help them achieve what they can without destroying their feet though.
I, for one, vote for our new cyborg feet overlords.
SpaceX RocketSocks - the Tesla of footwear
EDIT: I just got a $7,200,000 check in start-up capital from a well known VC firm for *iShoo, the intelligent footwear*
I mean, a compression sock made of OLED is exactly what the world needs rn
[All I need is my clock and my rocket-boot!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is8xn-EQKcU)
We destroy the feet. To prevent destroying the feet.
But that wouldn't be "traditional". The tech to alleviate some of the pain and deformation could exist but it would not be accepted in ballet.
Yes because that is one thing I cant live without is being able to stand on the tip of my toe. It's necessary beyond belief.
Yes, this feit definitely a feat of feet.
I have a friend that is a ballet dancer. She's absolutely gorgeous but her feet are like something out of a David Cronenberg movie.
Can you describe them?
Throbbing veins popping out of the surface.
Get off the internet Ben Shapiro.
I lost it for a min there
Had to look it up... hurts to see
I can only imagine...
Found Quentin Tarantino’s Reddit account
They literally have such short careers (professional ballerinas have a career which lasts less than a decade). Also they fuck their legs up so bad.
I mean speaking from experience at my old ballet company, I had coworkers dancing professionally still in their early 40’s
Hmm, but don't their legs go thru hell ?
I have heard some ballerinas having to get physiotherapy in their mid 20s
(PS - I'm not disagreeing, just curious)
I mean yeah all of our legs get messed up, some have to get surgery 4 different times others go through it completely unscathed. You’ll have injuries and down time there’s no avoiding it. But a ballerina at my old company just celebrated her 21st year with the company. With the right amount of maintenance and muscle strengthening you can have a career spanning two decades.
That sounds so painful goddamn. Also I know that the industry is kinda obsessed on perfection 👀
Is that truly the case ?
Oh yeah 1000% for dancers it’s basically never good enough. Constantly seeking perfection. You have to learn when it’s right to push things or when it’s time to let it go and come back to it. That’s why it’s really healthy to have hobbies outside of ballet otherwise you can easily develop a unhealthy relationship with it and get burnt out.
Damn. They really don't get the spotlight they deserve
I was engaged to a ballet/ballroom dancer, and she had some seriously gnarly feet.
Those ballerina scenes from John Wick 2 made me wince.
yeah have you seen there feet when they get older... totally fucked up
Yeah have you seen male ballet dancers? They are more ripped than most bodybuilders out there, obviously not super buff, which wouldn't be useful for dancing, but like defined and muscular as hell. They have to be to have so much control over their body.
Edit: and then they are also like the most flexible guys out there as well!
Thank you. Yes we are💪🏻
I can deadlift 405, bench 225, but also I have all of my splits. At the same time I can do backflips, no handed cartwheels, and various other jumping elements. It’s really a shame more parents don’t see the benefit of putting your kids in it at a young age. Now I’m making a livable wage doing it professionally. And since I love it I don’t work a day in my life.
I tried to put my toddler in dance and all he did was ask where the cars were to play with 🙄 I’m not giving up hope, will try again in a year.
I actually started with the musical theater side of things. I grew up watching Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire, I didn’t find ballet until I was around 8 years old. By that point I grew to appreciate the discipline of it. I did play soccer, swim, and play piano as a kid but ballet was the one thing that stuck.
Knowing what I know now I would probably have started off in gymnastics and transitioned to ballet around 10. All of the best dancers that I know had a base of gymnastics before going into ballet. But it will take some convincing to get your son to stick with either one. The gymnastics will help build a solid foundation of flexibility and strength that will make ballet seem like a cake walk later on. Hope that helps!
I've been thinking about what sports I ahold guide my kid into, and was seriously considering ballet, however, what's your opinion on anorexia and body dismorphia that is (or seems to be) more prevalent in ballet than in other sports?
It’s more prevalent amongst women than men. But being in front of the mirror all day can sometimes be taxing on your self image especially when you go online in your free time. The best thing to help negate that is to just make sure they can also spend a fair share of their free time outside away from a mirror and away from technology. I know it’s hard in this day and age but it’s a good thing to strive for.
Thank you! I think we will put him in gymnastics once he’s eligible for the covid vaccine (I know, it’s low risk for kids but we have a baby at home). That’s probably better suited to his need for more big body movement and exertion. Makes sense it’s a good foundation as well.
Mentioning Gene Kelly and your whole motivation and drive - you just keep on thriving. There are so few people capable of doing what you do. It's really singular, and ultimately, extra cool.
(Not trying to be a creepy woman just delighted you shared all this.)
It seems like kids have to be old enough to appreciate the sport/art to self motivate and want to stay involved. Stick with it enough and sure your son could enjoy it and learn some great skills!
Pre-Covid I was doing karate at a local uni very regularly and people would bring in their kids anywhere from 4yo and up. I didn't work with them a ton and am not anywhere near a black belt level instructor, but most of the super young/new kids were really hard to maintain attention while those who'd been in it at least a few months seemed used to it enough to focus. I'm guessing it's like preschool, where they have to pass the threshold of "why tf am I at this new place that's weird and not full of fun games" to "okay everyone's doing the same thing for this period of time so I'll join in"
One common trait of the male ballet dancer that is rarely mentioned; humility.
I’m not one to go around saying hey look at how cool I am. But for all the shit I had to endure as a boy growing up in the early 2000’s doing ballet id say I’m entitled to a little showboating every now and again.
> id say I’m entitled to a little showboating every now and again.
Fuck yeah you are. My nephew is a great dancer. He's done ballet, jazz but he really shines in tap. Kids at school have been total dicks to him about it. It's gotten better as he's gotten older and been more confident to tell them to shove it, but you can still tell it messes with him. Shine on brotha, you're a beacon of hope for lots of boys out there just trying to do something they love.
My son did ballet for a few years (at his request) and he was genuinely the only boy in the whole dance school for the three years he learned. Some of the boys at school tried to make fun of him for it, but he had an amazing teacher who shut them down completely by telling them all how strong and fit male ballet dancers are and finishing with ‘so watch out in a few years because he will definitely be able to beat you all up’ and I’ll love her forever for it.
That sounds like an awesome teacher. I also did it at my own request. It was slightly controversial to my mom since my dad was deployed in the military at the time. She wasn’t sure how he’d react to me wanting to try it but I was extremely fortunate to find out he and my mom 100% supported it.
Something I've always wondered, do you actively train the big three lifts to get stronger, or are they accessories to specific training for dancing?
I actually don’t train barbell squats personally as they have a tendency to hurt my knees since our knees have to be turned out. I also don’t train deadlifts very much nowadays as they’re not the most optimal for posterior chain strengthening. I do train bench but only with converging machines and/or dumbbells. For leg strengthening I personally do a lot of athletic based regimens that I’ve picked up from PT’s over the years. Mostly body weight stuff like Nordic curls and such. I do also train Pilates as it was actually developed for dancers in the first place to promote strengthening with range of motion in mind.
I did during covid train the big 3 just for fun to see where I was at strength wise but since going back to work they’re not quite as useful in my regimen nor optimal for hypertrophy. But what I did notice and what was surprising was how much the Nordic curl directly translated into deadlifts.
Because we are lifting human bodies above our heads I’d say it’s honestly more beneficial to just train with dumbbells over barbells for the added activation of the deltoids for stabilization. Kind of replicates what’s needed in a overhead press with a ballerina.
So I’d say no, we get stronger in our lower body from dancing, but weightlifting definitely has a place in a male dancers regimen for developing a strong upper body but not necessarily the conventional big 3.
Thanks for the reply! Not a dancer but I keep hearing about how great Nordic curls are, I'll have to start doing these.
They’re a game changer, helped me unlock strength in my legs I didn’t know I had. They’re nasty when you first start training them but after a while its just like clockwork.
I mean, their job is constant overhead presses. While making it look effortless.
They get that nice snake head thing going on with their torso. As a fat old dude I'm just envious
I sat up too fast this morning and ripped a huge fart
Absolutely this! A guy a grew up with is now in the Boston ballet company. He's an absolute tank!
I used to be in a pretty hardcore Taekwondo club.
We had national and continental champions and two Olympians (as in participated).
Remember, this is a sport where kicking to the head is the default mode to score points, so people are usually VERY flexible.
In our training camps we had "guest trainers" coming in. A marathon runner's endurance, a rugby players body control... stuff like that.
Once, there was a ballet dancer for flexibility. And we just watched her warm up, dumbfounded. 7-8 HIGHLY trained black belts (and my ass) stood there, wondering how this was even possible.
Being more a connoisseur of ball sports, I was always stunned at how high ballet dancers could jump the few times my mom talked me into going to the ballet. (I was a sucker for the Nutcracker as a young lad.) Explosive movement, but also contained/controlled.
I remember former NFL stars Herschel Walker and Jerry Rice both took ballet to help improve movement control and injury minimization.
A lot of dance-like things would be great for athletes to pick up I think.
There's some hockey players that have a figure-skating background too.
Troy in Community joined an interpretive dance class at the recommendation of the football coach.
Also a lot of hockey programs bring in power skating coaches. Most of them are figure skaters. Kim Muir holds very popular power skating camps here in MI and has worked with many NHL players as well.
I follow Australian Football, which is a very demanding, hardcore sport. Several players from my favourite team have used ballet-based training to overcome long-term injury issues.
You should check out some modern ballet, it’s amazing and really shows the physique and physical attributes of the dancers
More football players need to take dance. I never played but all I ever here is about people needing to work in their footwork. That's what dance class is for. Coordinate your upper and lower body through repeated movement. Same. Even just learning to pick up knew footwork or technique is a big part of dance. Want to practice being coachable and learning quickly, go to dance class. Learning to recognize and anticipate other people's body movement, Dance class! And there are also girls, so it's way less gay.
Also my first thought. That level of endurance and pain tolerance and focus is next fucking level.
And they're strong too, my ex gf used to do ballet and she had legs so strong she could lift me up with her legs with no effort, and I was like 100+ kgs at the time. Also don't make them angry, they kick hard.
I pulled my sciatica just by flexing my toes I
That’s so cool that she can do that while standing on a Nespresso coffee pod.
Beat me to it!
Beat meat to it
One day I’ll remember that fucking sequence.
Today is not that day.
I’m pretty sure she could make her life a lot easier by doing this on a stable surface
That's no fun now is it
She should be like me and just lay on a couch or something.
Bullshit. Pics or it didn't happen.
how would the horse react
**Kylie Shea Socials:**
Oh shit this is the same girl who does that dance with mac from it's always sunny in Philadelphia
No shit. That's such a good episode. Always makes me miss my dad idk why. He's not in prison
Such a beautiful scene. Especially from the usual tone of the show.
Sure let's all just talk about the scene and not link it
Holy shit. I've never watched IASIP, but holy crap that scene was amazing.
The rest of the show is nothing like that at all. It made it so impactful because it's so beautifully shot and performed when just a few episodes before they were making a joke about a dog fucking the wound in a homeless mans neck.
That scene was so fucking beautiful and jarring and in juxtaposition with the rest of the show that I was in tears at the end of it.
Words don’t capture what that scene is.
The end of season 15 did the same shit. I just wanted a laugh, and it made me feel feelings. I love it.
When Charlie was crying?
Yeah. That unzipped me.
Wow. I watched the first 11 seasons, loved Always Sunny but life got in the way, haven't seen it since. I'm a gay guy, my deceased mother was a ballerina, and my dad doesn't approve of me being gay. I did NOT expect to be hit by a fcking train this morning. This clip made me sit here for 20mins afterwards contemplating so much. I'd give anything for my mom to be alive when I came out to my dad. Amazing scene, so deep, did not expect it. Life can be so complex at times. I wish my dad was more accepting of me. I wish my mom was still alive.
I will never get over just how Magic Mike shredded Mac got
Well he finally tacked on mass.
I was floored by how emotionally resonating this scene was when I first saw it. Watching again I am still incredibly impressed.
Doing god’s work
Oh, that *is* the IASIP ballet dancer. No wonder I was thinking of that scene watching her.
Song is lily's theme, from Harry Potter and the deathly hallows
I knew it had a 'later Harry Potter movies' vibe
Probably my favorite song from the movies, it's really good.
Damn I was thinking Witcher 3 at first but you’re spot on
At first i thought my spotify was still running (i love lily's theme), it wasn't, i love that they used it here
Yeah man, fucking love this theme. Makes me tear up idk why.
thats the girl from Always Sunny. Great scene
As a stereotypical male, I always try to suppress any emotions that even leads within the vicinity of crying. I also have never really had any appreciation towards dancing as an art form. But I distinctly remember my first time watching this scene when the episode first aired. For whatever reason, it brought up emotions inside of me that made me legitimately and unashamedly cry, which was one of the very few times in my life that a tv show or movie has made me feel that way. There was just something so beautiful about it to me, and within the context of Mac’s character development of being gay and religious and his relationship with his father, it moved me in a way that was emotionally unique to me. And it all happened on the show It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia for fuck’s sake 😂
You should really work on trying to let out those emotions more often. The "stereotypical male" you described yourself as kind of sucks. It's 2022, men can express emotions and talk about their feelings and go to therapy and there's nothing wrong with that. It should be encouraged and talked about openly
This right here is basically it.
Finally a man expresses his emotions and the first response isn't support. It's a slap in the face or ridicule.
People absolutely suck. That's the bigger picture whether that other commenter was intentional about that or not. You do not kick someone down when they are clearly struggling. That's just shitty.
I'm choosing to interpret it positively as "it sucks when you have to hold yourself to those stereotypical expectations" rather than "men who don't actively fight stereotypes suck"
Shit tier emotional support bruv.
Came here to say this. Beat me to it. Take my upvote.
I came here *just* to say this.
I came too.
I haven't watch iasip since fat mac, I didnt know there was a jacked mac!
i haven’t seen Sunny since devito pushed that guy off of a roof with a stick, and holy shit…
1) What an incredible scene
2a) Mac got shredded
3) Time to start hitting the gym more
People like this always remind me of Greek gods or statues. Her leg is so perfectly straight and muscular that it looks sculpted. And the serious pose and furrowed browmake her look like a legit moving sculpture if that makes sense
Yeah in the least possible creepy way to say this, I wished she was wearing more revealing clothes so we could see how the muscles work. Like when she brought her arm over her head to hold her ankle thats was a huge curve her obliques are in, and you could see the abs by her hips straining.
I get what you mean. I was trying to understand at each moment which muscles she was using. I would love a side panel mock up of the human body that shows which muscle groups are being engaged over time so I could understand just how much effort she is exerting.
It is always so fascinating to see someone with well defined muscles like this girl. I always look at these bodies and just start thinking about the various biological factors.
What I also find incredibly amazing are the statues of the antiquity. It's breathtaking to see the carved stone be so perfectly defined that it looks hyper realistic. I don't know the name of the statue, but it depicts two people holding each other. You can see the fingers of the man just sinking into the womans back and thigh. Just like it would look like if it were done by two people.
The human body can be so beautiful to behold. It is somewhat sad that the modern society has made the naked body, especially the female body, something that "needs" to be covered up. Only because people can't stop think about sex or porn for a brief moment. Personally, I think it's a good idea to spread the idea that the naked body is just the same as a clothed one. It shouldn't be a strange, embarrassing and definitely not "wrong" to see it. However, the issue is more often in the people wanting to see it rather than the one that is showing. Kinda silly that the shaming tends to be aimed at the one showing instead of the watcher that is misbehaving.
subbuteo really upped its game
Came here for this
If I *had* been drinking coffee I'm pretty sure it would've come out of my nose when I read this
Ah I’m so glad someone got there in good time.
many of you wouldn't have realized this, but doing it with your eyes shut is actually 10 times harder.
Our eyes helps us to to maintain a sense of balance. Try standing in one feet with your eyes open, and then with your eyes closed.
what are you talking about? I had my eyes wide open watching that smh
dude why can’t I do this???
I said the same thing and then remembered I ate an entire bag of Lays Baked BBQ chips in one sitting today.
Which is no small feat in itself. Kudos my friend!
Dude why can't I do this?!
Motivation, disapline, focus. Set your sights high... That's where the good snacks are.
I don't know... I've had some nummy snacks from the bottom shelf.
I’m having some chocolates as I type this.
Nice, just reminded me I got a bar of toblerone stashed in my cabinets. Sorry, don’t come across toblerone very often where I live, but when I do see them, I’ll buy a few bars. So good
Pssst, ever seen the large 750g Toblerones?
(There's also a giant 4.5kg Toblerone, but that looks like overkill.)
Jealous. Those are damn good.
[She was the ballet dancer that did the dance with Mac from Always Sunny. (spoilers if you're not up to date with the show)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6urFp8YZ0)
Damn I forgot how ripped he was.
Lol what the fuck. The last time I watched Always Sunny was years ago. Things have... things have gotten different, huh. I should catch up.
You can. But you will have to practice for several thousand hours first.
i don't wanna brag but i fall from my chair sometimes
Don't forget flexibility
Also; consistent practice.
If it were just strength and balance we'd be looking at caber tossing.
Ballet is the most intense shit out there. It's what yoga wants to be when it grows up
I beg to differ. Yoga isn’t a dance. Its origins as well as well its purposes differ from that of ballet and it is also hundreds of years older.
One can't be more wrong. The very purpose of yoga is relaxation.
I thought that until I took a yoga class and my legs were shaking from holding positions! Maybe it’s relaxing when you become good at it? That beginner class was horrendous.
It is just one aspect of yoga. Asanas, they are done in order to improve flexibility. You also seem to have a different view of relaxation that yoga envisions.
Umm.. What? They aren't competing against each other, they're completely different disciplines
Some of that yoga stuff can get pretty intense. I remember a video of some old yogi that basically folded in on himself and stuffed himself into this tiny little box.
Professional ballet dancers are just competitive yoga practitioners?
Most people have no idea how hard it is to do that let alone on a balancing ball.
During hard lockdown, I tried doing some beginner ballet videos as cardio exercises. [After going through this even once](https://youtu.be/ziT4ERqtS04), I can start to appreciate how much effort this takes.
Add on - eyes closed for the leg raise. Pretty ducking impressive
I pulled 3 muscles watching this.
3? It seems like a few men pulled just 1 muscle watching this...
Phenomenal...She has the most incredibly chiseled calves.....
Honestly the first thing I noticed.
Pfft, I can do that. Except flat footed, on the ground, and no silly leg raising.
Iggy Pop has great balance for his age.
Quite possibly the most graceful human being I’ve ever seen
An incredible display— but the years of dedication to her craft are the true achievement. Art borne of time, blood, and pain.
She’s really out there pushing the capability of the human body, meanwhile I’m over here— nearly losing my life, choking on a cheeto because I swallowed wrong.
A gymnast, Jerry. Think of the flexibility. Mmm, that sex'll melt your face.
I just watched that episode the other day!
Is this that girl who danced with Mac on Its Always Sunny?
Edit: yes it is
Do NOT google ”ballerina toes” 😂
Is she doing that with her eyes closed?! If I’m on tippy toes with both feet and I close my eyes I’m going down faster than a Mafia snitch wearing cement shoes in the East River.
This is what happened to Sarah Conner after there was no apocalypse.
Pretty sure all the muscles merged.
And she is now one muscle woman.
Can't imagine the discipline and time to master that craft. Truly amazing. Possibly expensive.
That is one hell of a body.
Look at those flexibility
I was scared for her ankles watching this
Core strength at full display
If I tried to pull my leg up like she does at the beginning id cramp 60 f times
Well look at lady swish, showing off her working knees and flexibility, whilst I'm over here walking like RoboCop after being placed in a Boston Crab by an Ed-209...
and here i fall on two legs
Ballet dancers are the ultimate athletes
Jesus Christ look at her calves
My hip clicked just watching that
This is probly the best gif I've seen in a while. A true master of her craft.
I think she's doing this with her eyes closed, which makes it a lot more impressive than it already is