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HoelEmbellyDancer

Wait when is Chris Paul going to be back Did he just die


sylvestersquad

No rush, just get em healthy. Payne been great (other than tonight)


Buckus93

Load management? Payne's been pretty decent starting in Paul's position. Maybe the issue with Payne's game is that the second unit didn't have enough scorers?


Pisto1Peet

Payne has played well with the 2nd unit as well. The issue with his game was that his primary PnR partner was Javale McGee, who is too slow and too one-dimensional to take advantage of Cam Payne’s killer first step. Also, he was just flat out shooting poorly in shots that he had hit the prior year.


Greekphysed

Plus this game would of been awful for him to come back to from a heel injury. It was a basically a track meet at this game.


Energizer_94

On the flip side, CP3 might just control the pace of the game and make it a whole lot based on the half court.


Greekphysed

Possibly. But Sac loves to push the tempo. Seems like that's what there built for


toasty_-

Payne was fine tonight just fouled a lot.


uxxoid

I love Payne. He is having a stellar season so far. But I thought he was terrible tonight. Awful shooting, at least 2 passes that were pretty much guaranteed turnovers, many ill-advised drives to the basket with hot shooters around him where he's just praying for a bail-out foul. Defensively it almost felt like he either let his guy by him or fouled. Those last 2 and-1 fouls of his were just abysmal defensive efforts. It was like he was giving away 3 points to anyone that wanted it.


peanutdakidnappa

He was 2-10 last night with 5 fouls lol, he was the worst player on our team last night and we probably lose that game if he doesn’t get his 5th foul which caused Monty to insert lee back in. 18-50 over his last 4 as well, he’s not been good lately and he was really bad last night. Before this recent stretch tho he’d been real solid.


frodounchained

Wb cam ? I saw a video of him shooting around but idk if it was old


uxxoid

He's been up and moving around on the knee for a bit so that could very well be new. Surgery was Nov 8. 1-2 month timeline. I'd guess closer to 2 months even if he's feeling good earlier, given that the suns are doing well and we've seen some signs that they are prioritizing staying rested/healthy for the playoffs.


Sikkly290

Cam Johnson? Probably another month at the earliest, 2 more months on the slower end of normal healing times. He is jumping and shooting already though, which is awesome to see.


GQDragon

I say just sit him until like a month left and then ease him back so he’s healthy for the playoffs. We haven’t gotten a healthy playoff Paul yet. We’d probably win a chip.


boxster233

Spoiler alert: Healthy playoff Paul is an illusion.


HarukiMuracummy

It's a guarantee that if CP3 publicly says "don't worry I'm fine" about an injury it means he will miss at least 3 weeks


Buckus93

He's starting to look like Anthony "Street Clothes" Davis. Only Paul has an excuse. Ya know, cuz he's old. Anthony?


yuhanz

Ah yeah coz CP3-6 weeks wasnt a thing before…


Buckus93

Yeah, I'll concede that point to you. It does seem like he's always injured near the end of the season when it's most important.


uxxoid

Davis is currently carrying an absolutely dogshit team entirely on his (bad) back. I just feel bad for him when he's going through injury stuff.


Buckus93

Lakers actually have looked decent the last few games. Given the NBA's tendency to favor the Lakers, and with their odds of winning a championship at +13000, maybe it's time to put some money on them.


Throwawayidiot1210

They played the spurs 3 times


Buckus93

That's a big oof.


CapableMachine666

Only the spurs wouldn't look decent playing the spurs 3 times.


Hecali

I wouldn't, they have been playing very weak teams in their current "good stretch". Besides, last year's worst phase happened post ASG so, unless they move some pieces, it will be very hard for them to make the play-in.


Buckus93

Good point. Still, put 10 bucks down, maybe get $1,300 seems pretty safe.


le_wild_poster

Anthony Day to Davis


panda_gravy

Starting? CP3 always gets injured, especially in the playoffs. He'd likely have multiple rings if he didn't.


peanutdakidnappa

Imo they no doubt win the title that year with the rockets, they win won of those last 2 to beat GSW and then they clobber the cavs. That was one of the worst timed and most painful injuries ever. The title was right in front of them and then bam it was off the table in 1 second. Ya tho you’re right cp3 always gets injured especially in the playoffs, even when he keeps playing and doesn’t miss time he’s usually hindered by some sort of injury


Buckus93

I always forget about that. Maybe it's because he's only been with the Suns a few seasons and I'm not as aware of his injury history. You're right, though. Even the last two years with the Suns, he was injured or likely hiding an injury during the playoffs at one point. Of course, let's not forget 2021, when he caught COVID during the WCF. Just...dude is cursed in the playoffs.


Sikkly290

He started practicing again, but it wouldn't surprise me if we let him rest for another week or two. He old, teams winning games, no reason for CP3 to be playing right now.


Dirty0ldMan

They're going to keep him fresh until the playoffs. I'd be surprised if Paul topped 50 games this year.


KillerZaWarudo

Worst. He turned 37


NChSh

I'm turning 40 in a month and I feel like Chis Paul is easily ten years older than me


dontwannadietomorrow

Ah, you have been giving in to your delusions I see


Southern_Ad_7758

Im 24 and i feel ive been seeing paul since my days in the womb.


AntiChangeling

"Heel soreness", which is apparently an euphemism for "season-ending Achilles injury". Not really, but the Suns really don't seem to like being upfront with this kind of stuff. We really don't know when he's going to be back, because the Suns FO doesn't really seem to want anyone to know, which leads to a lot of unnecessary speculation. Personally, I'd rather just know what was going on.


Yoduh217

I've had achilles tendinitis that could be described as heel soreness for almost a year now and it's still keeping me from running and playing sports. But I don't spend 1M dollars a year on my body 😅


KD7575

Lebron spends that much not sure about CP3 but wouldn't surprised me if he did


fullmoon223

I heard CP did as well


wadyamean

Try strengthening your calves by doing calve raises. Ideally aim to get to 2x body weight. Solved my achiles tendonitis.


nashty2004

have you tried heel raises and drops on stairs?


playerayton

His heel is sore, that'll be a season ending injury apparently


SunsCanucks

Probably would've returned sooner but with how the Suns and backup guard Cam Payne is playing, no need to rush him back. Just gotta keep him healthy for the playoffs.


krand16

Heel sore, he stepped on his kids Lego, out indefinitely


uxxoid

Stubbed his toe; out for 6 months.


SoundSaintWarrior

He’s “Heeling” up


Isosinsir

Just be worried when he says that he’s not fine because it might mean he’s about to die.


DapperUnion

"We play team basketball. We share the ball!" "jk imma drop 44 and carry my team"


Whit3boy316

DLee going for the 3 while Ayton waives hello from under the basket alone


uxxoid

I forgive a lot of Book doing that because he was on fire for stretches. And D Lee feels like a guaranteed 3 points in the 4th quarter, so I forgive that too. But there were quite a few stretches where we were not getting it done offensively. Book seems to be the last person to realize when he cools down. If everyone else was mediocre, I wouldn't care. Payne does not consider that Ayton is on the floor most of the time. At least Ayton still seemed really engaged. I almost like seeing that on a game where he is not fed more than on a game where he is, because this type of game is the one where it seems easy to get lazy.


Britta_is_in_this

I still don't forgive it. I like the correct basketball plays and Lee, Book, and Bridges each missed a wide open Ayton. Lee and Bridges made theirs, so it's a "nooo....oh...it went in....yes!"


kyler_

Yeah we got lucky there lol


Mitch3315

His career high is 70, 44 is him sharing the ball.


luck_panda

What is insanely wild to me is that he is playing 41 minutes on a monday night in November. What the hell? Why would you risk injury like that to your star player for a shitty regulation game in November? Booker literally only left the game long enough to drink water and wait for a dead ball. This is some Jimmy Butler on the Wolves type stuff.


Paladuck

I agree. They definitely should have given him more rest. Maybe even the whole night off.


peanutdakidnappa

Honestly Book is extremely well conditioned and he’s the type of dude who wants to be out there as much as possible. I assume they will scale it back some later in the season so he’s fresh going into the playoff. With the play in stuff now you get a pretty nice break also before the actual playoffs start so that helps too. Man just wants to win games even early in the season and if that means playing 40mins some nights he’s cool with it.


ClutchNorris

I typically agree with takes like this but there are levels to conditioning. Booker and Mikal are on a different planet when it comes to conditioning and probably 2 of maybe 20 players in the league that can handle playing a lot of minutes and you don’t have to worry about too much.


buttharvest42069

Or Jimmy on the Heat this season. He played 42 minutes a couple of weeks ago against the Hornets.


luck_panda

That is insane to me. These guys do not need to be doing that in the middle of November.


luck_panda

Aaaaannnnddd he's out for a few games because of his knee.


krand16

Book angry Ayton got player of the week..


HesiPullup

And that he got a technical for giving the ref the ball


KingsElite

That was a weak one in fairness


Strict-Amoeba1791

Got it clocked on radar going 1 mph faster than it should’ve. I was biting my nails when I saw the ref no looking but wasn’t surprised by the call. I was more surprised the tech was given by a different ref.


morcic

It was weak but deserved nonetheless. You don't throw the ball at the ref who is signaling to the scorer's table. It's disrespectful and he knew exactly what he was doing.


KingsElite

Eh, to me it looked like he passed it before noticing, but whatever we'll take it


Whit3boy316

Books breakup with Kendall has hit the 2nd stage of grief…….anger.


aysurcouf

Can’t wait until may when he hits acceptance and goes off for 70 again.


ZestycloseResist5594

"There's no getting around it, guess I'm gonna have a career night 🙄"


_cosmix1

I only watched the 4th, but it was all impressive. The Kings' fight even down 10 points, and the Suns always buckling down at the right time despite fatal errors.


Reidroshdy

Kings would be down ten cut it to a one possession game,then the suns would hit a couple shots to be back up by eight or nine. It happened all throughout the second half.


burns_after_reading

Bro, I don't even watch basketball


Agent_of_the_N1ne

NO BEAM TONIGHT


HSPumbloom

The brightest beam is the motherfucking sun


dizZzy5

The real beams are the friends we’ve made along the way


SoDakZak

Hey now! Hey nooow! This is what beams are made of…


Space_Cowboy_805

Sick reference, bro. Your references are out of control. Everyone knows that.


largepizzasmallfry

Based haha


coat-tail_rider

I can only read this as a "Don't Beam It's Over" type parody, but I googled it and it's a Hillary Duff song. I'm 38, but I've never felt so ancient.


lemon07r

It's not longer boomer or zoomer era. It's now beamer era


wcooper97

If the Suns lose… we all **die.**


KingsElite

*enraged purple beam noises*


YoungDetective

airplane fans eating tonight


OneOfTheManySams

Devin Booker Slayer of Beams


RobotVo1ce

It will only take 37 more of these games to get that MVP. League is crazy this year.


Vallerie_09

Lots of heavy loading he been doing without Chris Paul. Another 40+ mins game. Best SG in the league


Imthegoat175

Has to sadly with how depleted the roster is


Georgiesara1027

It would probably help if they fed ayton some more to help take some of the offensive load off of book


kingofnick

I agree. I think Monty needs to let the bench guys roll a little more in the second half, even if it comes at the sacrifice of a win or two.


KillerZaWarudo

He doing that while getting double teamed constantly as well


Calexander3

Don’t tell r/nba this. They’re going to hate the fact that Book is constantly doubled and carrying this team to first in the west without CP3.


Mosh00Rider

Before the infamous clip Booker was one of the most doubled player in the league because we had no one else. I guess that means he should have practiced it more, but that also means he had tons of practice on it in game.


Calexander3

The whole point of Booker complaining was that he was just having fun in a gym run and didn’t want to have to deal with doubles like he does in actual practice and real games. And a ton of players came to Booker’s support on twitter. It’s just that r/nba has such a hate boner for Booker that of course they trashed him for it.


rice_bledsoe

What can you say? The hyper-athletic denizens of r/nba know more ball than the likes of Kevin Durant and Trae Young.


waffle_nuts

31 before his first free throw


Shaqovitch

Wet


AZ-roadrunner

Like


modChester

Im


Weapon_Factory

Book


RoostarHead

Worm


Just_A_Glitch

Adventures


SoDakZak

Goodbye


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HesiPullup

My man is getting doubled every time he touches the ball at the ends of games too. Suns desperately need another guy who can handle and score the ball in crunch time


Cervicals

You say that but Damion Lee is right there?


V-Right_In_2-V

He can shoot the clutch shots for sure, but he can’t run the offense. Washington has been a decent backup, but it would be great if we had more playmakers. That being said, we ain’t too shabby. Number one in the west and on a five game win streak so can’t complain too much


Forsaken-Gap-3684

We need more though that’s our downfall every time in the playoffs


silverfang45

Kinda funny watching it the king game, book almost seemed happy and just immediately passed to payne like nothing happened


mrmoo02

Anyone see the ringer article about derozan to the suns 👀


HesiPullup

If we could somehow swing that, we are the best team in the NBA and most dangerous team in the playoffs


Gluxion

How can you possibly get him without losing DA


uxxoid

We cross our fingers and say our prayers at night.


SunDevils321

Jae + 3 1sts


real_1y

Done


shaad20

I think I might know a guy that’s up to the task, just as soon as his heel is back feeling right


HesiPullup

Love him but he really isn’t always up to the task in the playoffs. Those Bucks/Mavs series still scare me We need another guy going into the playoffs


shaad20

Only thing that’s held him back is health… which is admittedly a bit of a problem for him lol. It’s nice letting Mikal and Ayton absorb more responsibility while he’s out though, it will only help make us better.


admanwhitmer

He averages 22 a game in the finals, he had one bad turnover just like book did but now all of the sudden he sucked that whole series according to some people


AntiChangeling

Yeah, I'd be wild if there was a guy like that who was All-NBA level on this team. Maybe a potential HOF type guy? That'd be just crazy.


Plants_R_Cool

Chris Paul is 75 Years old in point guard years.


GlueGuy00

someone like CP3


[deleted]

Top 10 player right now


Jesmer8490

Last year too, he finished 4th in MVP


Alive-Ad-4164

He lives rent free in so many people heads


gears50

Y’all need to let this rent free stuff go. Hating is cheap and easy. Very economical


Mosh00Rider

Yeah but it's how we hate on the haters. It's a hatred cavalcade up in here.


GlueGuy00

mainly Lebron/Laker fans lol


KillerZaWarudo

Yes but because of that video him complaining about double team and game 7 he doesn't get the credit he deserved


Sitrous1

I’m not saying he should be put over guys like Tatum Steph Giannis etc cause they’ve been better than him flat out lol but he definitely deserves respect leading his team as the first seed with 2 starters out averaging 27/6/5 is definitely up there imo


mj2legit23

correct take


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Isosinsir

You must be new here lol


CarryTheHellOn

Leading his team to the best net rating and record in the West without 2/3 starters. People would be doing a lot of slobbing if this were a number of other players 😂


Jesmer8490

I think Celtics have the best NetRtg, we're number 2


Hay-blinken

Davion Mitchel up in his business for a bunch of tough shots. Good game.


Pisto1Peet

There were a few stretches where the kings just didn’t have an answer. Didn’t matter who was guarding him, didn’t matter if they threw a double at him, didn’t matter if they ran him off his spot. He was going to drop a pure bucket on their heads.


delamerica93

He couldn't miss. We didn't even play bad D on him at all, he just shit on us anyways lol


Alive-Ad-4164

Mvp candidate


thecolbster94

Honestly dont think he will be, he doesnt have nights like this often enough because the team's offense usually doesnt need him to carry


mrmoo02

Plus Tatum Gianni’s luka and Steph have just been phenomenal so far


ucd_sam

Extremely fair point but also I personally just can't put anyone in mvp talk who isn't playing for a top 5 team in their conference. I do not give a single fuck about "yeah I know they're in the 7th seed but just think where'd they'd be if they didn't have him!" We're only 25% in so obviously I expect all those guys to have their teams competing for a potential home court advantage in the first round, but currently steph and Luka cannot be in the convo for me until they get there. Regardless of stats. This is the only professional league that will do some shit like give an mvp award to a guy on an 7th seed team and it's honestly weird af imho


Calexander3

I don’t know man… First in the west on 28/6/5 without CP3, Cam Johnson, and Jae Crowder. He should definitely be top 5.


ashwinr136

Did anyone else watch the Kings broadcast and hear how salty the announcer was towards Booker? Lol


tyler1118

Yeah I did, she was insufferable, probably one the worst announcing I've ever heard. Definitely a r/nba user.


Imperium42069

Kings fans do not enjoy Kayte Christensen


SunsChampions

Fax 📠


HarukiMuracummy

She was awful. Disappointing because Mark Jones is excellent. I'm trying to get away from Eddie Johnson but didn't feel much better lol.


Ryguy-_-

I like EJ! Yeah he can be a homer but I find him funny and he provides good insight into the game.


Mosh00Rider

Yeha but he is our homer so I can listen to him.


Sn33kykitty

Don't worry we hate Kayte too


HesiPullup

EJ didn’t even broadcast tonight lol


Foyerfan

Aww cmon now EJ is the goat


PhirebirdSunSon

A Suns fan that hates EJ? The fuck?


Tsunami-Papi_

EJ is the goat wym 😭


Salad_Designer

I hope someone can post that since I missed it.


Greekphysed

I also heard when she said something along the lines of " I wish I was a single mom." Or something like it.


pixeldrunk

I liked the kings old broadcast team, this is what you call an “overcorrection”.


_DildoFaggins_

She's a former Suns employee...


zotboi

Devin Booker was unbelievable tonight. I wanted the kings win so badly but they just didn’t have an answer. He was the closest thing I’ve seen out there to Kobe, nearly brought a tear to my eye. Same movements, same relentlessness getting to his spots. Moved around the defense like they were traffic cones. One of the best live performances I’ve had the privilege of seeing


pp21

idk why people get so riled up when people compare Book and Kobe. It's like they can't understand that you're not saying he IS Kobe just that his game and killer mentality are very Kobe-esque and it's obvious he crafted his game around a lot of what Kobe (and Rip Hamilton) did on the court.


nashty2004

i'm saving this comment so i can read it whenever im sad


zotboi

I’m glad to hear that, as painful as it was to see him tear the kings apart. Arena was absolutely electric tonight, we hurled everything we could at Booker but it just wasn’t enough. He had the kind of villain mentality the black mamba was famous for


nashty2004

Thanks yeah Kobe was amazing, unfortunately he doesn't have the athleticism and length of Kobe but Kobe-lite is a great compliment to him. A lot of players have similar games but the villain mentality is a necessity


SoDakZak

Thassa lotta influence on a win right there


Liquor_Walrus

HE PLAYS TEAM BASKETBAAAAAALL!


shaad20

There were lots of “why do suns fans hate CP3 so much” comments on r/nba when Suns fans would argue that Booker was clearly the best player and engine of the Suns. I only hope that the second half of last years regular season, and the start to this season, help non-suns fans to understand our POV a little more going forward.


wendelldeucce

When has that ever been the narrative amongst us? Fuck the r/nba perception. Ive never witnessed any hate toward CP3 from any of our fan base inside or outside of Footprint. Definitely not in Phoenix period. We love the Point God for what he’s done for us, ring or no ring. There can be some gripe regarding the playoffs last year, but there is more to the story than just “Chris getting outplayed because he’s too old and washed up.” He’s been a MAJOR reason for turning this losing franchise into a WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPION 2 season ago and for winning the most regular season games in franchise history last year. Book is the man, clearly, and we all LOVE him, but there is no I in team. He lacked before what CP3 brought to the team after for him and likely everyone else. CP3 is the best thing to happen to this franchise since Charles Barkley, change my mind. Ps/ Titling this post “without… Crowder” is disrespectful. We are doing this without our TEAMMATES CP3 and CAM JOHNSON. Crowder doesn’t get any credit, he doesn’t play for this team anymore. Pss/ this is what team basketball looks like. Even if Book scores 40+ in the game, he didn’t get us the W. Cue D Lee off off the bench; Craig, Jock, and Biz making an impact when they step on the hardwood. Edit 3: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CliRXxMJmMr/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


tomatobandit1987

> Fuck the /r/nba perception It was literally just Laker fans trying to will CP3 to their team.


AntiChangeling

I don't think Suns fans hate CP3, but I do think they've been pretty disrespectful about him from time to time.


KaiserKaiba

Bro leading his squad to the top of the standings.


DevilGunManga

It's CP15 era now.


PalmerGreathouse69

I came to see everyone shitting on Book... am I in the right sub? Where the haters at?


ThunderBobMajerle

Bc this wasn’t against the Lakers. Notice all the respect from Kings fans?


BagRight8939

HIM


Buckus93

I was watching the highlights, and the Kings announcers sure had some good color commentary on Booker: "He's a professional basket getter" "He's got enough to feed the needy tonight"


KingsElite

Mark Jones my brotha


DANCE_SMOKEY_DANCE

But r/nba told me he doesn’t know how to handle double teams and that Chris Paul is the reason the suns are a playoff team.


[deleted]

He da real MVP.


Kuntsaw

Who needs to hit 3s when you have the mid range game that Book does.


Lotan

[Devin Booker was on fire tonight](https://streamable.com/r8w2cb)


salmon10

Early season mvp favorite imo, doncic doing his best LeBron circa 2007 imitation but give me what Booker is dishing out


Floating_egg

Even while ignoring Luka, Giannis and Tatum have been better


Jesmer8490

This is fairish. None of them are doing this missing 3 starting caliber players.


Imthegoat175

Top-10 easily right now


sunsbr

But I was told the suns was a play in team without CP3.


whatdogssee

When does Book start getting mentioned in MVP debates??


Dareal6

WET LIKE I’M BOOK


Roy_G_Biv_Mika

Elite


SandyMandy17

Can’t wait till Jae Crowder is back


Mundingburrasaurus

kingslayer


GucciGangGamer13

It was a good game, we took a L unfortunately but we almost had it. The only thing I would complain about is Booker falling on his ass every shot attempt lol. Exciting game tho.


BradyGalaxy

WET


Sunnyinphx1

Like


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MVP


Zooburn

I am the beam now


playerayton

FIGHT THE BEAM


Virtual_Hall_9206

“THAT’S WHY HE’S THE MVP, THAT’S WHY HE’S THE GOAT, THE GOOOAT!”


UNBOLIEVABLEE

Say no to beam kids