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kirinboi

OG, Jrue, Dort, Mikal, smart. If I have to include a Center it’s definitely Bam. Also does giannis count?


BoopasaurusRex___

Replace Mikal with Herb then add GP2 and that’s my top 6 in no order


kirinboi

I think my criteria is ironically based on their offensive prowess. If u can’t contribute on the court to score, the team is just playing 4v5 If anything I would put Simmons over Dort if he ever reverts back to his 2018/2019 self


aeiou-y

Dorture Chamber


The-Truer-Facts

Luke Kornet


BigBallerBrad

No one else has that 15 foot defensive gravity


Warlandoboom

Guys just because you don't like Smart doesn't make him bad, lol. Any list that doesn't include Smart is salty as fuck he's undeniably top 5.


j_etti

Smart has two teammates that are as effective as him on the perimeter, if not more so lol. Everyone knows dude is excellent defensively but can we all ease up off his meat just a little bit


Peel7

Maybe I'm biased against floppers, but he's my #6. My list: GP II, Jrue, Thybulle, Wiggins, Herb Jones. Wiggins not at least getting a mention in this thread is criminal after what he did to Tatum in the finals, and to a lesser extent Luka in WCF. My honorable mentions: Smart, Mikal, Tatum, maybe Draymond.


BoopasaurusRex___

Get thybulle the fuck out of there hahaha


Peel7

His outstanding PoA defense is literally the only reason he gets any playing time, no? Poor 3P shooter and scorer. Literally just defends, but better than almost anyone.


BoopasaurusRex___

He gambles, misses reads, and getscaught ball watching. Give me a guy who can play well in a system and pick up actual minutes, becuase that’s rule number one to be on this list…playing time. Jrue, OG, Wiggins, GP2, Smart, Tatum, Mikal, Herb etc all come to mind.


AdmiralG2

Not having OG at least in the honourable mentions is criminal lol


Peel7

I haven't seen enough of him (or Dort), so I may very well be wrong about not including him. Few Raptors games I watched I was mostly keyed in on Barnes.


Warlandoboom

So your list is a joke then, got it.


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MonkeyFL3X

Anunopy


hallandale

More like Anuyepy


Responsible-Still839

The Annunaki


Poohbeantull

Jevon Carter


BigBuck414

Agreed.


KJR37

for Leroy


IceMan_674

Smart, Mikal, Jrue, Tatum, OG, Herb Jones and Dejounte


KorgG29

Follow my lead OKC fans: D Edit: this is not what I was expecting


mathman651

Fuck r/nba for downvoting the DORT chain


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E


FallenLemur

T


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H


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mathman651

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Frankiedrunkie

Mikal, Jrue, Dort


FallenLemur

I'm assuming you saved the other 2 spots for OG


silentstealth1

OG is honestly the scariest defensive player in the league this season. so fucking big and aggressive.


kebbun

Nice to see OG finally get mainstream recognition as one of the premier defensive players.


Flat-Stuff87

Dort, smart, kawhi, pg and mikal bridges


JoJonesy

Smart, Mikal, Jrue, OG, GPII off the top of my head


giantmamba

Payton, OG, mikal, jrue, thybulle


Competitive_Set_893

*Dort


5IVE5TAR5

Literally just shutdown beal on the perimeter to win the game yesterday lol


clancydog4

I mean, I know his DPOY gets hated on but it seems kinda ridiculous to leave Smart off the list, especially for dudes like Thybulle and Payton who play less than 15 mpg. Jrue, OG, Smart, Mikal, Dort would be my list.


No_Bumblebee464

Thybulle would be a starter on any team if he had literally any offensive skill


FaithlessnessTime105

Thybulle gets cooked half the time when he plays Boston. Not sure about other teams, but no way he's a top 5 defender


JesseJamesGames449

Thybulle cheats on every possession. he is super aggressive and gets beat so often and it never looks bad on him becaus embiied is in the paint to clean up after him.


clancydog4

I realize that, but he doesn't and thus, doesn't play very much and so his overall defensive impact is limited due to lack of minutes. I feel like the top 5 defenders should tangibly affect every game they play on the defensive end, and someone like Smart does that much more than Thybulle (even if we totally ignore offense) due to playing over twice as many minutes per game.


No_Bumblebee464

the question isnt top 5 players who are great perimeter defenders. thybulle is a better perimeter defender than smart even though smart is 100x better of a player


potatomanflan

Thybulle is absolutely not a better perimeter defender than Smart lmao that dude gets cooked constantly and just has Embiid cover up for him


clancydog4

did you even read my response? I realize that, I am saying, even if you ignore offense entirely, Smart still has a much bigger defensive impact on every game cause he plays 30 minutes vs 13 for Thybulle


yendan-

is the question “who is the best defender” or “who has the most defensive impact per game” goalpost gary


clancydog4

I don't think those are particularly different. Not moving any goalposts, I just interpret the notion of "the best defender" as "the most defensive impact." How is that moving a goalpost...


No_Bumblebee464

sorry , i didn't see your edit. i disagree with your interpretation of the question i think


Warlandoboom

Or you're just desperate to shit on Smart


No_Bumblebee464

wtf lol i literally said smart is 100x better than thybulle


Warlandoboom

Just not on defense? The fucking defensive player of the year, the first guard to do it since Gary Payton. And your hating ass has Thybulle above him... Matisse "barely an NBA player Thybulle". A guy who can't get on the fucking court. Look, if a guy is a better defender than the DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. He'd be on the court. They're playing Daniel House Jr. more than they're playing Thybulle. House is averaging 3.9ppg, 1.7rpb, and .8apg on 43/33/71 shooting. Are you telling me the difference between those numbers and Thybulle's offensive numbers justify sitting a guy who is supposedly a better defender than the defensive player of the year? If he was as good of a defender as you say he is he'd have to be shooting at his own basket on offense to offset that game changing defense you're crediting him with.


JesseJamesGames449

Thybulle isnt a better defender than smart.


potatomanflan

Lmao you got downvoted for that, damn people fucking hate Smart


Naive-Air2866

Alot of people here sleeping on gp coz he ain’t played this season.


SlimReaper35_

Thybulle is overrated. Dort should be there


NardP12

A guy who's not playing yet due to injury and one guy who can't even sniff on the court cmon


Poohbeantull

Jrue


hungrytiredandbored

Which center is the best perimeter defender?


Quatro_Leches

Rob and Bam


Expulsure

Bam and Claxton


IceMan_674

Al Horford lowkey


Zmoney743

If we count AD he’s up there as well. And horford but I still view them as PF


Poohbeantull

Def Gobert or Jokic


Burnem34

Careful, someone will take the Gobert part seriously and we'll end up with a dissertation on why Gobert is actually one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and the Jazz failure against the 5-out in the playoffs was actually everyone else's fault


Sweden13

Isn’t Gobert actually fine when he… you know, is actually assigned to play the perimeter? The failure of the five out strategy is because the scheme had him stay in the paint, intentionally leaving someone open. This of course flops because Mann nailed his threes, but if Gobert was committed then they could get in the paint and score with ease.


Barbell_Flyes

looool based


2022-Account

Or maybe all of them were bad on the perimeter


hungrytiredandbored

But which one? Been having this argument with my friend, i say joker he says goober


TheyCallMeChevy

Jokic is not a good perimeter defender


RandomBeardedGuy

Pascal


Blackroseguild

AD and bam.


yungstraddle

Bam comfortably


HS941317

Jayson Tatum deserves a mention


neurotido

Jrue Thybulle (when allowed to do his thing OG (against larger perimeter players) Draymond (PnR + communication) Caruso (+50 dawg)


Irishdelval

13 minutes a game for Matisse is criminal


l0ngline95

it reall isn't, he's best enjoyed in small dosis


Irishdelval

I’m not suggesting he starts but he warrants 20 min a game


OcksBodega

he is horrendous on offense. They’ll play him if he can make open shots but rn even that’s too much to ask


ladwagon

He's like really bad on offense


patchworky

He brings literally nothing to the table offensively


Irishdelval

He has to work on his three and shoot more often agreed but 13 is low.


OcksBodega

OG Dort Jrue Smart Bridges


Curryboy1229

not getting the thybulle love, to have him over the likes of smart and og is next level insane. thybulle gambles so much, yeah he's physically gifted but has zero defensive iq. shouldn't be in any top 5 imo


sorendiz

Jrue, Matisse, Smart, jimothy g. buckets, PG13 Edit: how could I forget about lu dort


FrostyTheKnight10

OG been better than all these guys this year


sorendiz

I actually considered him but didn't include him cause the few raps games ive had time to see + everything i see from raps fans gave me the impression he was more of a draymond style 1-5 capable defender who generally takes the toughest cover, so I was thinking more of like, primarily perimeter defenders when answering


504090

Correct. OG definitely isn’t the best perimeter defender in the league, I wouldn’t even say he’s top 4.


saltface14

OG is top 5 easily, this season he’s been on another level


IRanOutOf_Names

In no particular order Smart, Jrue, Bridges, OG, and Dort


New_Essay_4869

Herb Jones, Marcus Smart, OG AnuGOATby, Dejounte, Jrue


bungajaji

Jrue and Dorture. Then the rest.


FallenLemur

OG Dort Then maybe Jrue


FaithlessnessTime105

The smart disrespect in this thread is hilarious


2022-Account

GP2 is right up there. Not sure if he’s top 5, but he’s elite on the perimeter


D1taj

Jevon Carter, Jrue, Mikal, OG, dort


kzapwn

Smart Thybulle caruso melton herb jones off the top of my head. ball simmons & gp3 would probably factor in when healthy


shammmgodd

OG has been playing DPOY level defense my brother


kzapwn

I came up with my list in about 30 seconds, my bad 😂 put him in for Thybulle


striker907

Jrue better than all them


kzapwn

At his peak maybe.


striker907

You don’t watch the postseason, it’s clear Dumbass take lmao, and here I thought you just forgot


kzapwn

Last year he looked elite on everyone except the lightening quick guys & he didn’t play any of them the playoffs. But if he is in other peoples top 5 I wouldn’t argue. He’s still way up there, it’s splitting hairs once you get into the top 5 lol.


striker907

His screen navigation and ability to stick to his man really is second to none, it feels like you’re counting age against him when his play hasn’t been affected yet


kzapwn

Yea like I said the only area he’s slipped in, to my eye is against the ja or maxey types who have that unmatched speed. And it’s not like there’s a ton of those guys in the league so he’s still gunna shut down 99% of opponents. Hopefully he play tomorrow


horredgrones

Jrue Jrue Jrue Jrue Jrue


Academic-Principle14

Over 60 comments and I haven’t seen Tatum mentioned. Blasphemy


theglicky

Dillon Brooks


WubaDubImANub

Chuma Okeke has to be up there


or6a2

Thybulle should be but if you're not on the court does it count? He has his limitations but doc won't let him work through them. Please fire rivers


ebdjra2

I only watch Kings game so Davion 1 thru 5 is the only right answer


Either_Opening_41

SGA is really great defender but of course Dort is better


Panik_Switch

Herbert Jones, Jrue, the not abuser Bridges, Smart, and maybe OG. It’s looked like SGA could be fantastic on the perimeter too, but I’ll need to see more games to tell.


Confirmation__Bias

Honestly feel like Tatum should be in this conversation


IzaacLUXMRKT

DORT


Optimal-Machine-7620

Rudy Gobert


Zmoney743

Tatum when he gives full effort is a top 3 defender


2022-Account

If you have to add “when they try” then it’s not them


hallandale

Gobert when he grabs a x3 to foot speed power up is a top perimeter defender.


cactusmaster69420

Jrue, Dort, OG, GP2, Simmons