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Elec7ro

I love it when completely random ass trades that no one can predict happen, Also kind of surprised Phoenix didn’t go for him if this was the cost


paxusromanus811

I'm super surprised Utah didn't get a first for him. I had heard they had offers previously but wanted additional assets. So for them to settle for Kelly Olynyk and Lee is odd to me.


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awrf

Find someone who loves you the way Danny Ainge loves Kelly Olynyk


AKiiidNamed_Codiii

Fuck Kelly olynyk


SpiritualBar2469

Calm down and wait till you both get home danny.


epoch_fail

Biggest problem I saw was that the guys in Bogey's $20M range for salary filler reasons brought that first round pick asking price down to a level we weren't happy with. While there are some suitably bad contracts, such as Bertans or Duncan Robinson, their length also makes them less appealing as trade targets.


Frowny_Biscuit

This is what I came here to figure out. I figured they'd at least get a 15-25 first for him. Who the heck is Saben Lee?


Bigpoppawags

Put some respect on G League Legend Saben Lee's name. Dude is a walking bucket...in the G League.


Sea_Ad8742

MAkes sense Utah probably scouting the g league to see who they could call up to help them tank


Gamesgtd

We have Admiral Schofield. He's a literal tank commander


BigBlitz

Dude is a walking layup/dunk. In the G-League.


thabe331

Small scoring guard without much of a shot He always seemed to be too good for G league but not good enough for the NBA


AkronIBM

Bingo. AAAA player if this was MLB. I would say there's a chance he develops though. But that would take him from out of the rotation to the end of the rotation


GrowthhackerAU

Worth a flyer for a rebuilding Jazz team. What can they lose? They don't care about winning. If they make a tank commander out of him, perfect. If he's even more then jackpot.


Kipa_Kipa

I think he has potential as an energy 2nd PG kinda like Ish Smith


Alarmed-Classroom329

Utah might be a good place for him given that they're likely going to field a bunch of g-leaguers to tank.


yo2sense

Young guard with some offense but not a consistent shot. No defense.


thethirdgreenman

They either must think they can get something for Olynyk...or they don't care about getting assets back and just wanna get worse


According_Gene2202

Maybe Phoenix didn’t because they’re already trying to move off crowder and bojan essentially would just plug that hole?


TraeCartoon

A reputable insider (Gambo) said the Suns *did* go after Bojan, just the Jazz wanted more than a first rounder. Doesn’t explain why the Jazz got rid of him for so cheap but it isn’t the worst thing we didn’t trade for a 1 year rental.


leopardinatree

Lately, it's been said Ainge is on demon time with these moves and wants to spite folks. Probably didn't trade him to PHX just because "fuck you, you're in our conference" kind of thing.


Trent_Bennett

This. Ainge is spirited man he wanted 2 firsts from the Lakers bc they are the Lakers plus they have Bron. Now he gift Bojan for peanuts to a non rival franchise. Wtf he's on man?


Turaisk

He wanted 2 firsts to take back $40m worth of Westbrook


tatancool

I think the expiring 40 m are worthless to a team that's rebuilding. Who are they going for the next off season that's in their timeline? Maybe that's why the Jazz didn't do it. That and ainge hates us lol


BeautifulAndStoned

that's a Lakers thing. it's for flexibility and to reset the repeater tax, most teams do not clear salary because they're planning on signing a max player in free agency and even the ones that do are mostly delusional lol.


Trent_Bennett

Westbrook expiring should be an incentive for them to trade. Everybody not named Lakers would sit him out if he was on their team


Retro_Super_Future

That’s sound strategy to me 🤷🏾‍♂️


Cyberdrunk2021

Bojan is 33 and the jazz aren't contending this season, and maybe the next. It seems he tried to play the suns but got played instead.


Kdog122025

The Jazz aren’t contending for like 4 years at least.


blitzKriegzzz

Probably wants to make the Pistons better so they don't compete with Jazz for top picks.


mburns223

I didn’t think of this….that bastard!


iamadragan

Gotta note that his info was probably from the Jazz though, James Jones doesn't tell Gambo anything. Maybe the jazz were just trying to up offers


Mikegetscalls

I’m surprised more teams didn’t beat this trade. I feel like a lot of teams didn’t even know he was a slog or this cheap.


Hamsterupyourass

Dude if I’m a phoenix fan i would be livid, how tf do you not get bojan at this price!?!


seand233

They tried to trade crowder for Bojan, but Utah wanted a first as well. Not gonna do that for a rental


lebryant_westcurry

I would imagine throwing in a couple seconds should be equivalent value to olynk considering Utah is rebuilding anyways I personally think one first rounder is not overpaying either. Bojan is a good piece who can space the floor and create his own offense. The suns are gonna be good this year so it's not like their first would be that valuable


seand233

Right?! Rumor is the Jazz wouldn’t budge on needing a first round plus crowder for Bojan. Then they trade him for 2 guys that probably won’t even be on the team next year


jsDPT

I like it for the Pistons. Every penetrating guard needs reliable shooters around them.


_Apatosaurus_

I like it for the Pistons because they got a much better player for a much worse player.


Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak

It was a big brain trade for the pistons.


diderooy

Why doesn't every team just do that?


Lezzles

You know all those dudes that start with a paperclip and end up with a car or something? Why can't we do that with Kelly Olynyk and like...Lebron?


ruruhuh

Absolutely agree. With Burks, Bey, Bog and Stew (if his end of season and summer league stay true with shooting) this team can actually have some spacing finally.


vhvp

I’m a firm believer that Cade’s shooting will come around too. Just too smooth of a stroke for it not to. Don’t forget about Livers either.


indoninjah

Yeah for sure. Kinda like the Sixers grabbing Redick when Simmons and Embiid were young. Steady vets that can play their role reliably are great for development. I'm not a big fan of teams loading up on like 12 guys on rookie contracts. Feels like nobody gets the chance to learn much if everybody's in the same boat.


iksnet

We spend all this time thinking of logical trades then boom Bojan for Olynyk lol you’d get laughed off of here suggesting that a week ago


Tommy-_-

Right, this really came out of nowhere haha


Hamsterupyourass

I really don’t get the nba sometimes


LonzoBBBall

That's a terrible deal for the Jazz. Couldn't even land a 2nd rd pick. Also, they've just gained another player on top of their over-filled roster lol.


efficientshelter69

It's weird, Royce O'Neale fetched a first rounder


drjisftw

I have no fucking idea what anybody is worth anymore apparently


StarBardian

I mean, it's just a Rudy Gobert. what could it cost? 5 1sts?


beachsunflower

There's always draft picks in the banana stand.


ipreferconsole

Suddenly the Thunders logo changes to a Banana Bushel with no explanation


Immynimmy

Udoka: I am having a love affair with this ~~ice cream sandwich-~~ staff member


Rykno23

I do not understand the trade, therefore, I will not respond to it


[deleted]

How the fuck is Smelly Olynyk and Saben (trash) worth an 18 ppg scorer


YpsitheFlintsider

Maybe because only a 4th of his contract is guaranteed next year


[deleted]

We like you guys, we want Cade to do well.


BeautifulAndStoned

It's technically unprotected but it's the worst pick out of Houston/Brooklyn/Philly. it's probably 20-22 even if we get lucky.


[deleted]

Royce only went for a first because the nets were willing to give it up


Swampy1741

Yeah that's how a trade works.


Low-Exam1208

Royce plays defense


EmptySalami

Ainge tried with that report that him, Clarkson, and Beasley were valued at first rounders. Evidently, no one bit


Dhylan18

It’s crazy that there is an entire season to hold onto these people but we had to do it before training camp. Teams get desperate toward the deadline, especially with unforeseen injuries. I didn’t like the Beverly Trade and I hate this trade.


iSleepUpsideDown

How are Lakers not in this if that’s all it took lmao


VanWesley

How are literally any other contender not in this if that's all it took


TalenHortonTuckMeIn

Lakers tax


Low-Exam1208

Ainge hates the Lakers 😆


Rrypl

Who could they've sent? At least Kelly is one of Danny's guys.


BlackPepperBanana

Kelly being one of Danny’s guys has no value


Rrypl

It clearly has some value to him, as he traded a good player for him


N3rdMan

What is the value Kelly has to the Jazz?


Koba8

Because we would have to pay more, we would have to include an unprotected first lol, gm’s definitely play favorites


_chadwell_

Danny doesn't want to do a deal that could beneficial to the Lakers.


ComfortableMaster625

Yet he traded the Lakers Pat Bev, which guarantees a playoff appearance


Bixby33

"The next 5 first round exits are mine!"


DragonEevee1

>Also, they've just gained another player on top of their over-filled roster lol. Jazz need a big to run some form of an offense, Lee won't play a minute


claydavisismyhero

They can just cut people


VanWesley

I expected Ainge to keep him until the deadline and snag a FRP from some desperate contender.


dchu

makes no sense for jazz


motorboat_mcgee

My assumption is that there is another trade looming with more players involved, otherwise they’re going to have to straight up cut a bunch of guys


sersleepsalot1

My count is at 20 now, if i am not mistaken. They literally have to cut 5 guys. And if they are planning to trade Conley, clarkson, they will get more players in return as their salaries are higher, especially conley's. And I think the Lakers trade with them is dunzo as the most desirable player has gone. There's no point for lakers go for a bunch of other guards (conley, clarkson) when they already have a bucketful in the house.


kultureisrandy

Yeah we desperately need wings, our best wing pickup in FA was Lonnie Walker.


anglesideside1

“Now ask yourself why the Jazz would do that…” 👆🧐☝️


1850ChoochGator

Guessing they *really* want to tear it down and give Lauri the reigns at PF. Bojan isn’t quite a bench player yet and plays a large majority of his minutes at PF. Lauri still fits best at PF and imo played SF more out of necessity in Cleveland.


shabann

Lauri is SF in PF body.


Heyec

That's the perfect center. /s


ComoEstanBitches

This position talk makes more sense if it was 2002 than it does for 2022


viking_machina

The Jazz got basically nothing for a guy who can get a late first for at the deadline? Even if the pistons aren’t winning a ton this year he will make their games more competitive and they can flip him at the deadline for more than this.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Bojan’s deal and age make him a lot less desirable trade piece than people think. This tells me Jazz weren’t getting great offers so they just went with whatever helped than tank the best. Keeping Bojan might have hurt their draft position


BeautifulAndStoned

And the cap. Now that we've moved the big dogs, they want to get rid of as much salary as possible each deal. It's going to be hard to move Conley without paying for it, and taking back a bad contract is probably how we do it.


everythingisamovie

> Bojan’s deal and age make him a lot less desirable No? He’s on an expiring. And it’s under 20 mil.


InAingeWeTrust

It’s pretty hard for these contenders to match contracts without also trading away a good player.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

Expiring is good. Almost $20 million makes it hard to trade except for good players, or multiple players. That’s the issue


King_Artis

I think he's expiring too so teams aren't willing to give up a ton for him. Of course I like this trade myself, we got him for a bag of chips and he helps the spacing a lot while clearing out log jam at both the 1 and the 5. Don't see him being here past the season, nor do I really expect him to be here past the trade deadline, but with how it also clears us of KOs contract it's very much a win for us.


ihateeuge

Clearly he couldn’t get a late first then lol


Milan_Leri

Now get the other B. Bogdanovic. Just to mess with the opponents.


SEJ46

Too OP


Dylan245

Good vet presence and shooting that Detroit needs without losing anything of value


VictorAkwaowo1

Also frees up more minutes at the 5 spot to give to Stewart & Duren


Crafty_Substance_954

And dishes Saben Lee off who, respectfully, wasn't making the roster anyway.


IronicallyToxic

And Noel who’s a serviceable rim protector, and Stew can play the 4 like he used to and maybe more comfortable in


[deleted]

Stew’s actually never played the 4 prior to spurts last year


GrilledCyan

It’s probably going to be Bagley and Noel sharing minutes at the 5 to start and then phasing in Duren over time.


Comfortable_Buddy946

Bagley is a terrible 5, unless you want to lose or him to get injured fast so Duren can get minutes


YpsitheFlintsider

Playing him at the 5 seems to be thrown around quite a bit and I'm like... he's hardly a 4


stoppedcaring0

Yeah, this is a beautiful trade for Detroit.


mansmurf

Maple Kareem in Utah gonna be unstoppable


Rockstar408

Bogi has been an efficient 18-20ppg scorer on a playoff team for 5 years, he's really good and underrated. Pistons look nice


Vordeo

Which makes this all just confusing, because of all the guys we had left I thought Bojan at least would get a first back.


shai251

Are we sure there’s no picks being traded?


Head_Ad9081

Ya no draft picks. Just Kelly o and lee. Pistons gm with another fleece


willymoose8

he’s 33 and his contract isn’t small. Similar situation to Eric Gordon, the best offers for him were all seconds or conditional firsts that would never convey. Teams just don’t want to give up a first for these types of guys


TheSmokedSalmon420

Man I love everything the pistons are doing.


Vloff

Likewise


hollow-ataraxia

Getting a good player for pretty much nothing - another common Troy Weaver W


thisisanaltaccount43

Troy Weaver is a walking W


orr123456

5-77 estimated record for the Jazz


Sir_Isaac_3

watch them draw the second overall pick anyway


orr123456

Scoot would be worth it


melennia

That’s all it took lmao


sunnydftw

Common Troy Weaver W


Sir_Isaac_3

he doesn’t miss


AkronIBM

Counterpoint - drafting Killian is looking susp even to Killian truthers like myself


sunnydftw

Imo we don’t get Cade without Killian sucking ass, so still a W


Sir_Isaac_3

Im pulling for him but if he doesn’t show up this year, his time is up in Detroit


KnoxsFniteSuit

Give credit where it's due: the Pistons GM has been on fire for a couple years now


fredsavagegarden69

Wow nice for detroit, got an adult in the locker room. Good move


[deleted]

Kelly wasn’t?


p0tatoman

[Jazz fans when they find out who they got](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Tg_-LDyfg)


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[Jazz fans watching a Lauri/Olynyk/Kessler frontcourt](https://i.imgur.com/azhkTm9.jpg)


milomcfuggin

Heh we’re not watching our team this year. Silly.


Vordeo

Not only because we're tanking - our jerseys are pretty much garbage fires lol


thewrongnotes

Seasons with zero expectations can be fun. Of course, I would know.


Dhylan18

I’m getting league pass and watching Minnesota, Cleveland and now Detroit.


epoch_fail

I'm watching the heck out of this squad. The unpredictability is exciting. The losing, not so much, but I think we'll play fast and hard.


youredoingWELL

“They say he’s even whiter than Bojan”


RRJC10

Great deal for Detroit. An often underrated aspect of rebuilding is letting your young guys win. Bojan doesn't make them a play-in team by any means, but he gives those young guys a guy who can help them grow on and off the court. I like how they're not scared to win a few extra games to help with player development (OKC take note).


MattRice15

You’re telling me no body offered a pick?


jsDPT

No picks? Wow


NewBuddha32

Pistons stole this man


bluekomodo01

I’m convinced Weaver’s got these other GMs at gunpoint while making these trades


[deleted]

Need that 3 dragon meme with Yzerman and Troy as the intimidating dragons and Al Avila as the dumb one


Head_Ad9081

Thank god Avila is gone guy literally got nothing in return for arguably the best pitcher of our generation in verlander


NewBuddha32

We traded nothing for desperately needed shooting and a trade asset at the deadline. Beautiful no notes


sunnydftw

Between Weaver Yzermam and Brad Holmes, shit feels too good to be true


NewBuddha32

Kelly and saben weren't gonna play for us this year and Troy traded them for a 20ppg scorer that shoots over 40 from 3. This is an absolute steal for the pistons who have defenders to cover for him and desperately need shooting.


Sam_Seaborne

Bojan was apparently worth a barely rotational guard and Kelly O… surprised no one else made a better offer.


im_alliterate

lee was not in our rotation lol


the_shins

Straight up G-league player who could not beat out Cory Joseph for a spot on the worst team in the league..


Jakobissweet

BUT he is a g league star so there is that


Turbo2x

☝️ why would the Jazz do this? ☝️🤔


Ozeback108

Jazz FO realized there were still fans after trading both all-stars and rebranding to the ugliest uniforms ever. This is to kill off any of us left so they can move the team to Vegas. /s


LunchThreatener

The unis are so fucking bad 😭😭😭


last_suvivor13

I get Bojan is a little expensive, old and on an expiring but damn man I thought he could at least get back a 2nd rounder


Roxxor7

He did, its Saben Lee


Meatiker

Adding a good vet presence and some desperately needed shooting is a good deal when we're not giving anything up really


spacedorb9

damn I wanted Bojan


Guts709

Gives some much needed spacing, shooting, and we didn’t give up much of anything worthwhile. Defense matters, sure, but so does shooting/spacing, and the Pistons were bad at that last season.


charlesfluidsmith

They are trying to win a negative amount of games. Ainge knows how to fucking tank. PS The Pistons are becoming for real.


Slippinjimmyforever

Grim Weaver strikes again.


KingOfWeTheNorth

We'll never beat the Pistons again


PaoloBancheroFan

Jazz tanking. Pistons trying to win.


Crafty_Substance_954

well...Maybe win more often?


dabeest1

Jazz must really like Saben Lee to take on Olynyk's multi-year deal


mj2legit23

Olynyk is only guaranteed $3m next season


dabeest1

Still. Why would he do this then? Hes not just gonna cut them both; he couldve gotten a second and an exception if he wanted cap relief


[deleted]

Saben Lee stinks. Great GLeague player but when he plays the pistons he over dribbles, can’t shoot and gets blocked at the rim all the time. He’s fast though


dabeest1

I mean the Jazz are trying to field a G-league team so maybe he is a good fit


Jazz_Cigarettes

Utah isn’t ready for Maple Dick Kelly


saywutt7

Good to see the Pistons making moves


firstbreathOOC

Pistons have a good team, damn.


JetsLag

Wasn't Bojan supposed to be worth a FRP? I don't think Olynyk is worth a FRP.


Hotbullets2die

W for the D


orr123456

Jazz robbed


PenisMcBallsAllStars

Just thinking of the time last season olynyk dropped a million points in some random game and the top comment on the thread was “the lunch lady servin’”


kasaan110

Lol but everybody said the lakers should give up 2 first rounders lmaoooooo


Bahamut727

This sub pretends to not know what Lakers tax is. Glad ainge got nothing in return. Westbrooks expiring was a chance to get off of expensive vet contracts and get draft compensation. The Jazz now have too many players and are close to the luxury tax and received no draft capital for bogie…. Even tho this sub screamed at us saying bogie deserves all of our picks


bigbaldheadNR

Nice trade for Detroit I think


Lebron_Jams

Aloaloalaoalaolaloala


staling

Is Detroit making a trade that is gonna help them win games this year?? What’s that feel like?


Sir_Isaac_3

Pretty dang good


Conversation_Dapper

This is an interesting trade


PusseySleigher

utah getting more jazzy i see


DoubleAmigo

Saben Lee is going to be a monstrous tank commander


bigtasty321

This is stinky


hence_1999

Lol shocked they couldn’t at least get a 1st since it’s been reported they want 1st’s for Bojan, Beasley and Clarkson but good for Detroit


FailResorts

Man, Detroit teams are making moves. Even the Tigers, with the garbage season this year, are looking up with the new front office hire. If the Pistons can go .500 or better and at least be competitive for a playoff spot, even the lowest seed, I’ll be a happy camper.


WongKawhi

I don't see how Bojan's timeline aligns with ours, but I like his game, he's automatic from three. Plus, he has a pretty versatile offensive game that doesn't get talked about much.


Crafty_Substance_954

He's on an expiring contract, that's how it aligns with ours.


im_alliterate

hes on an expiring so presumably just getting a temp ride on him anyhow


the_shins

Olynyk didn't align with our "timeline" either, but we got the better player AND better financial flexability because of this trade


volzovio

Damn what the fuck lol I was hoping we'd do Devonte + Jax and a pick or something for him. How tf is this Bojan's value? also, why are Detroit doing this? Weird.


BeardeddBombshell

Man if you were willing to give all that up for a 33 year old then you might not have as good of a grasp on trade value as you think.


the_shins

Two things. We needed to get rid of one player because we don't have enough roster spots, and Saben Lee could not even beat out Cory Joseph for a rotation spot on one of the worst teams in the league. Kelly Olynyk also got a partly guaranteed deal for next year (3 million) wheres Bojan is an expiring deal. He is also clearly the superior player and it's not unlikely to see him get traded at the deadline to a contender. Detroit can also use him since we won't really tank this year, even though we are likely to be a lottery team still. The FO probably want legit players around Cade, Ivey, Bey etc. to help them develope and play proper basketball.


[deleted]

We don’t have a starting 4 and we severely lack shooting so I get it. Pistons aren’t trying to tank this year, they got their current core, they just young


Sam_Seaborne

Detroit wants to compete at least for the Play In, in 22-23. We have our superstar in Cade, along with a solid young core.


yapyd

LOL. Didn't Ainge say that Bojan is worth 1 FRP? Instead he gets more players