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> Thats a lot to lose for a couple of chances to win a title. lmao? are you ok in the head? ayton is walking either way


Rh1-No

People have to realise we're a team with more nightmare losses than most franchises, Ayton isn't gonna win us a title, Durant may.


blacknotblack

he’s an rfa my guy


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and the suns will not be matching any offer he has so I'll say it louder so you can hear it AYTON IS WALKING EITHER WAY my guy


blacknotblack

lmao if you think the suns are that dumb


thechemistrychef

They literally are


CazOnReddit

And he has to agree to the destination for a sign and trade, my guy


blacknotblack

doesnt mean he is walking


agbdc

Small market team and CP3 not getting any younger. I say you go for it. Edit: small market is a bit of an exaggeration. Mid market is more fitting, but the same idea still applies.


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Bingo plus they’d have their own little superteam Other teams will put together packages as time goes on so suns have to jump on this especially with how the whole Ayton situation is going We don’t know just how bad it is with KD and the front office and Joe Tsai strikes me as somehow who would get cut throat. Even if KD says *I only want to go to the Suns*, Tsai probably won’t care. It’s reported they haven’t even spoke This whole situation tells me the Nets FO is sick of KD and Kyrie. Suns gotta play it smart before KD gets shipped somewhere else


[deleted]

LMAOOO at giving up too much for KD Especially for the suns who were garbage for a decade. Now they could have CP3/KD/Booker big 3


Rh1-No

We've had heartbreaking losses every year we make the playoffs too, let's fucking win.


beer_down

KD is a top 10 player. The suns don’t have one of those


agbdc

Top 5. Saying Top 10 is almost disrespectful.


milkmypepperoni

You forget how much the nets gave up for harden only for him to leave lmao


AncientMarsupial3

Ayton is a FA lmao


BlueberryGummies

Yeah they cant S&T ayton and send bridges in the deal.


Rh1-No

Man I pray we keep Bridges


Michiganmade44

Restricted FA


AncientMarsupial3

It doesn’t matter. He’s a FA either way, he can’t be included in a normal trade. For a S&T, you can’t include other players or picks, just Ayton, and that’s not enough for KD.


xmidgetprox

Restricted FA and sign and trades happen every year


Epic_Storytime

Sign and trade. Keep up.


AncientMarsupial3

Which you can’t include other players or picks with…keep up.


Super_Armor

I promise you if the Nets like the Ayton/Mikal deal, they will find a way. You can do separate trades as long as everything matches ...keep up


AncientMarsupial3

That’s a violation of the CBA…keep up.


Super_Armor

A three-way trade would work, how is that any different than Markkanen's trade?


AncientMarsupial3

Because the Cavs didn’t include any other players or picks with Markkanen? You do understand what a S&T entails, right?


Super_Armor

First of all Markkanen went from the Bulls to the Cavs. But yes, that example wasn't a good one. Can you show me where in the CBA it says you cannot do separate trades? I don't recall that being true. I tried searching online and everything I searched came up with multiple trades being legal. As long as salaries match it is legal. Also the KD sign and trade to the Nets included a pick from the Warriors. I think you are wrong http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92 Actually, I'm pretty sure they don't even have to be separate trades


AncientMarsupial3

My bad. It’s technically possible but impracticable. Ayton alone is not enough to get KD and adding any other players would significantly increase the salary Brooklyn has to match, which they probably can’t do.


Super_Armor

If there's a will there's a way, like I said, if they like the Ayton/Mikal package a deal will get done


jawadhaque089

ayton alone is not enough for a sign and trade for durant lmao


antoniocandido77

That would put the Nets into the hardcap tho


lakernation21

I’d ask for booker if I was sean marks or no deal


CountAardvark

That's an easy no deal for the Suns


lakernation21

Cool and no deal for nets if booker not involved. Bridge and ayton don’t move the needle with kd having 4 years left on contract


CountAardvark

I mean, if you say so. I don't see anyone offering a better deal than Ayton + Mikal + picks. Especially with KD specifically pushing to go to Phoenix.


lakernation21

Boston can offer jaylen smart and picks, other teams can offer better packages imo


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No brainer, 2 guys that want to win it on their own together late in their career.


KaiserKaiba

No brainer. They’d obviously be getting their depth somewhat but sometimes if you wanna compete you gotta take risks


pugas

I'm seeing all these reports that Ayton's salary won't work in S&T, it seems like every team is struggling to find the pieces to make this deal happen ASAP. Sixers seem like the only team that have readily tradeable assets without making any changes in their picks or salary.


Michiganmade44

If I’m the Suns you got to go all in. Risk it for the biscuit


AgonizingSquid

Sounds to me like they would need to give up more than what everyone is saying. Lowe just said this should be the biggest trade return ever, they will go through a list of best players under 22, players that were untouchable will now be on the table


Infraready

The only way I can see the Suns getting KD is to sign-and-trade Ayton, which hard caps them. They’d be so thin, it’s tough in the near-term and you don’t really have a long-term with CP3’s age.


Elitealice

No such thing. They lost by 50 in a game 7, getting KD is never too high a cost


JimmytheGent2020

No. Nothing other than a like 3 or 4 NBA players is too much for KD.


komc_

If CP3 is actually cooked then they aren’t winning a ring regardless.


orionus

3 Way Trade between Bulls/Suns/Nets? Ayton and Saric to CHI Bridges, Vuc, Picks to Nets White, Durant to PHX Not entirely sure how to make the money work though...


BayTerp

Doubt KD would ever go to Pheonix, thats a city of just 80 year olds


moneyman2222

There's never too much for KD. Unless you're adding Book to it then it just doesn't make sense for the Suns and KD