By - spankyourkopita
> Thats a lot to lose for a couple of chances to win a title.
lmao? are you ok in the head? ayton is walking either way
People have to realise we're a team with more nightmare losses than most franchises, Ayton isn't gonna win us a title, Durant may.
he’s an rfa my guy
and the suns will not be matching any offer he has so I'll say it louder so you can hear it
AYTON IS WALKING EITHER WAY my guy
lmao if you think the suns are that dumb
They literally are
And he has to agree to the destination for a sign and trade, my guy
doesnt mean he is walking
Small market team and CP3 not getting any younger. I say you go for it.
Edit: small market is a bit of an exaggeration. Mid market is more fitting, but the same idea still applies.
Bingo plus they’d have their own little superteam
Other teams will put together packages as time goes on so suns have to jump on this especially with how the whole Ayton situation is going
We don’t know just how bad it is with KD and the front office and Joe Tsai strikes me as somehow who would get cut throat. Even if KD says *I only want to go to the Suns*, Tsai probably won’t care. It’s reported they haven’t even spoke
This whole situation tells me the Nets FO is sick of KD and Kyrie. Suns gotta play it smart before KD gets shipped somewhere else
LMAOOO at giving up too much for KD
Especially for the suns who were garbage for a decade.
Now they could have CP3/KD/Booker big 3
We've had heartbreaking losses every year we make the playoffs too, let's fucking win.
KD is a top 10 player. The suns don’t have one of those
Top 5. Saying Top 10 is almost disrespectful.
You forget how much the nets gave up for harden only for him to leave lmao
Ayton is a FA lmao
Yeah they cant S&T ayton and send bridges in the deal.
Man I pray we keep Bridges
It doesn’t matter. He’s a FA either way, he can’t be included in a normal trade. For a S&T, you can’t include other players or picks, just Ayton, and that’s not enough for KD.
Restricted FA and sign and trades happen every year
Sign and trade. Keep up.
Which you can’t include other players or picks with…keep up.
I promise you if the Nets like the Ayton/Mikal deal, they will find a way. You can do separate trades as long as everything matches
That’s a violation of the CBA…keep up.
A three-way trade would work, how is that any different than Markkanen's trade?
Because the Cavs didn’t include any other players or picks with Markkanen? You do understand what a S&T entails, right?
First of all Markkanen went from the Bulls to the Cavs. But yes, that example wasn't a good one.
Can you show me where in the CBA it says you cannot do separate trades? I don't recall that being true. I tried searching online and everything I searched came up with multiple trades being legal. As long as salaries match it is legal.
Also the KD sign and trade to the Nets included a pick from the Warriors. I think you are wrong
Actually, I'm pretty sure they don't even have to be separate trades
My bad. It’s technically possible but impracticable. Ayton alone is not enough to get KD and adding any other players would significantly increase the salary Brooklyn has to match, which they probably can’t do.
If there's a will there's a way, like I said, if they like the Ayton/Mikal package a deal will get done
ayton alone is not enough for a sign and trade for durant lmao
That would put the Nets into the hardcap tho
I’d ask for booker if I was sean marks or no deal
That's an easy no deal for the Suns
Cool and no deal for nets if booker not involved. Bridge and ayton don’t move the needle with kd having 4 years left on contract
I mean, if you say so. I don't see anyone offering a better deal than Ayton + Mikal + picks. Especially with KD specifically pushing to go to Phoenix.
Boston can offer jaylen smart and picks, other teams can offer better packages imo
No brainer, 2 guys that want to win it on their own together late in their career.
No brainer. They’d obviously be getting their depth somewhat but sometimes if you wanna compete you gotta take risks
I'm seeing all these reports that Ayton's salary won't work in S&T, it seems like every team is struggling to find the pieces to make this deal happen ASAP. Sixers seem like the only team that have readily tradeable assets without making any changes in their picks or salary.
If I’m the Suns you got to go all in. Risk it for the biscuit
Sounds to me like they would need to give up more than what everyone is saying. Lowe just said this should be the biggest trade return ever, they will go through a list of best players under 22, players that were untouchable will now be on the table
The only way I can see the Suns getting KD is to sign-and-trade Ayton, which hard caps them. They’d be so thin, it’s tough in the near-term and you don’t really have a long-term with CP3’s age.
No such thing. They lost by 50 in a game 7, getting KD is never too high a cost
No. Nothing other than a like 3 or 4 NBA players is too much for KD.
If CP3 is actually cooked then they aren’t winning a ring regardless.
3 Way Trade between Bulls/Suns/Nets?
Ayton and Saric to CHI
Bridges, Vuc, Picks to Nets
White, Durant to PHX
Not entirely sure how to make the money work though...
Doubt KD would ever go to Pheonix, thats a city of just 80 year olds
There's never too much for KD. Unless you're adding Book to it then it just doesn't make sense for the Suns and KD