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amonaloli12

The photographer said that the lions tortured the cub for about 20 minutes in the hope that the mother of the antelope would respond to her cries and they would also be able to catch her.


Short-Top1621

Thats heartless! But also incredibly smart!


SaltMineSpelunker

Called a honeypot. Soldiers do it too.


Res__Ipsa_Loquitur

I didn’t realize soldiers ate antelope.


Paulthesheep

Based


Duck-of-Doom

They eat sheep too


DJTHatesNaggers

Thats not the only thing they do to sheep over there.


slimthecowboy

Holes are holes…


RadioDaddio

Every port is good in a storm.


PickleInDaButt

Any thing can be stuck in your butt with the right attitude and courage


d1g1tal

getting a sheep trapped in front of a body of water helps too, since they’re afraid to go into the water. not much resistance for the boys at that point. *ben rothlisberger has entered the chat*


Cheap_Animal_3829

They definitely eat ass too


SadTomato22

Gets lonely other there. You gotta do what you gotta do.


Apprehensive_Paint90

Can someone explain what “based” means to an elderly 29 year old


Paulthesheep

From Urban dictionary "Short for "debased," referring to a concept, object, practice or ideology that has been stripped of its intrinsic significance by association with and absorbption into the mass cultural continuum. Used meta-ironically, given that the word is itself a slang contraction and represents the debasement it seeks to impartially describe. "Dude, I think that Nietzsche might be my favourite philosopher." "That's based, bro.""


Apprehensive_Paint90

I’ve seen the urban dictionary definitions and still don’t get why it’s used in certain situations. Can you explain like I’m 5? thank you.


Paulthesheep

It's basically the opposite of cringe. "Based" is used when someone give no fucks about what's said and isn't rude but shares their opinion without anyone asking. If you force your opinion, it's cringe. If you give a zero fuxks opinion, then it is based.


Apprehensive_Paint90

Thank you so much for taking the time lol, it’s appreciated. Now it makes a hell of a lot more sense.


threeseed

It's a tag that indicates that the comment and everything the commenter says can be ignored.


here-come-the-bombs

Based.


cruzser2

Lions eat soldiers


nickmhc

The circle of life


EoceneEveryday

It moves us all


Orbus_215

Through despair and hope


LickyNicky444

And people fuck goats


dshoig

Tbf goats are known to be very [seductive](https://c.tenor.com/_Ta_wyUXw48AAAAC/sexy-goat-goat.gif)


reddigaunt

Op is actually referring to cantaloupe, which is delicious with honey. Common mistake.


NotEvenCloseToYou

Oh! The ol' Reddit [kill-a-roo](https://reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/s3udcb/eight_nurses_working_at_the_same_hospital_that/hsn6ixr/?context=3)


no_talent_ass_clown

Hello future people! Leave the date you visited in a reply, if you please. 1/14/22


Arcosim

Snipers shooting to incapacitate soldiers so their buddies ran to their help and became easy targets was the norm in WW2.


IWantTooDieInSpace

"_HES RIGHT THERE!_" "_Caparzooooo!!!!!!!!!!_"


terrih9123

And now I’m watching saving private Ryan.


TruthYouWontLike

And BoB


knockers_who_knock

It’s..it’s for my dad….it’s got blood on it


SJ_Shark_Byte

Would you say that the note is for his…*Family*?


KEEPCARLM

Reminds me of that scene in Full Metal Jacket although obviously that's Vietnam


Ryu_Tokugawa

Oh, right. I remember from HBO The Pacific the scene where the Japanese baby was crying in the hut and was noticed by 2 US marines around battlefield going on.


VanimalCracker

I think there was another scene of a woman carrying a swaddled crying baby asking soldiers to help, who kept telling her to fuck off. Then when someone did try to help, she opened up the blanket and it was a walkie playing baby noises, then she activated a suicide bomb.


BeBopNoseRing

It was a woman with an actual baby. I could be wrong but with how it was depicted it seemed to me like she was trying to get the soldiers to actually take the baby to safety before her bomb exploded, implying the Japanese soldiers pressed her into the suicide bomber role.


IWantTooDieInSpace

One of the very few times you should throw a baby.


Calimariae

I'm more curious about the other times you should throw a baby


diosexual

At a baby-throwing competition.


Calimariae

I almost never get invited to those


tipperzack6

That is correct


gayintheass

Honeydicking


MaxPowerzs

They hate us 'cuz they ain't us.


WraithNS

Doesn't Whinnie do that?


broccoli_linux

As do computer security professionals


Adzaren

It's not heartless, it's fucking metal.


[deleted]

nature is fucking metal


inoveryourtoes

We should make a subreddit for that


ragenaut

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Hail satan and do drugs.


Imawildedible

Hail yourself.


R-DnB-83

I would never call it heartless since they are wild cats. But I'd call it intelligence for sure. That meal would have not even touched the sides..and their mum was the prize, but the mum was obviously not fussed with losing her young. In nature everything's out to eat you, unless of course you're an apex predator.


d_cervantes

Torturing your prey makes a lion less likely to be injured by said prey while they are eating it, it also makes it more likely to attract a parent nearby. Sounds like enjoying torturing your food would be a handy adaptation for lions, my gut says instinct. Cat's show similar behavior with mice.


Legendary_AF

Heartless?? That's ridiculous! It's just nature


lemons_of_doubt

nature is heartless.


ShaRo_

But it's the only way how the nature we know can work out.


MutterderKartoffel

I thought they were just being mean for fun. Thank you for the context! Still feels mean (from a human perspective), but makes total sense.


E4TclenTrenHardr

Don't try to ascribe human emotions to wild animals, this ain't the Disney channel. It's survival instinct, nothing more nothing less.


JhanNiber

Aren't emotions instinct, though?


TheEvilBagel147

Instinct plays a strong role in emotional development, but no I would not classify emotions themselves as instincts: individuals develop different emotional responses as a result of their unique individual experiences. This is as opposed to everyone possessing the same emotional responses to the same stimuli, which would indicate them being pre-programmed. That being said, I really hate when people try to boil everything non-human animals do down to "instinct". It strikes me as a cheap tactic to place humans on the high ground, when in reality our behavior is often more or less comparable.


saysoutlandishthings

How so? Humans do worse shit constantly. This is just nature.


xlkslb_ccdtks

> Humans do worse shit constantly If a human were to torture a child just to lure its mom in to kill her too, I’d still think that’s messed up lol


ageofwalnut

Well, to kill AND eat her.


x755x

I feel like the eating makes it a little more acceptable.


tokoloshe_

Well we do intentionally torture chickens for up to 2 weeks at a time so that they produce slightly more eggs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting?wprov=sfti1


kazumisakamoto

That's awful. Glad it's outlawed in the EU


Roflkopt3r

> The practice is controversial. While it is widespread in the US, it is prohibited in the EU. Fucking hell USA. Shit like this is why we could never join a trade agreement with you.


SpeakingRussianDrunk

You know they steal babies from their mothers for milk and then murder the calf for veal unless it’s a female then the cycle is repeated, the mother is milked until she can’t anymore then also killed or disposed of like rubbish


creganODI

But these things don’t happen in front of us, so we can happily ignore and let the torture continue on our behalf!


paulopolo

What about perpetually raising and breeding generations of animals in a cage? Probably more messed up than the above scenario.


Ponyexpresso

Yeah and any human that tortures someone we generally consider “mean”…


tb23tb23tb23

We have a lot better of variable potential inside our nature.


Raiden32

Difference being we consider humans that do it as broken, whereas with the lions it’s instinct. Don’t cut yourself on all that edge.


JustNutsandBolts

This is why I don't feel for the lions when an elephant stomps them or they get thrown around with horns.


WraithNS

They eat so rarely, and have to bring back enough for the pride, I get it, but I also hate it Nature truly is fucking metal huh


spyson

They don't actually bring it back for the pride. Adult male lions form coalitions with other male lions and they "own" prides. Prides consist of female adult lions and their children. Adult male lions lean on their prides to hunt for them. It's because they patrol and defend their territory from other male lions who want to take their pride and kill their children to have the female lions go into estrus. That's not to say adult male lions don't hunt with the prides, they do, but their primary job is defending their territory.


Jman_777

Damn the lion hate seems to increasing over the years.


idungiveboutnothing

People romanticize nature but somehow don't find beauty in the circle of life and the hierarchy of the food chain


Rocket1575

I'll agree with you that people tend to romanticize nature and when presented with how cold and indifferent nature can be they are dumbfounded. I will also say that in my opinion this video isn't beautiful, it presents the lack of morality of nature. It's not right or wrong, it just is. The Lions have to eat and this is a prey animal. Most of the time they get away, this one did not.


Jeffy29

Without the predators antelopes would quickly overpopulate and eat all the food, causing large scale cascading famine not only to antelopes but myriad of other creatures living in the area. It’s wonderful how nature over time has developed to be self regulating that things like that happen only very rarely. Circle of life is wonderful, too bad we humans have destroyed it in most of the world so badly that the local ecosystem can’t even function without the human intervention.


glider97

First the monkeys, now the lions, what's up with people?


StockAL3Xj

It's because people are idiots and don't realize nature isn't a Disney movie. Nature ain't pretty a lot of the times.


fayry69

This is heartbreaking to watch.


FellowTraveler69

Lions gotta eat, don't hate the playa, hate the game.


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bhplover

Imagine having problem with how wild animals survive in the wild, while humans are literally destroying the nature and themselves. I won't feel for you either when you'll get stomped by an elephant or get mauled by a lion


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Guipbtt

Yeah, it seems like the lioness by instinct was grooming it instead of killing it (happened with a big cat and a baby baboon in another video) Edit: [Link for a similar case (young female leopard and a baby baboon)](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/rxix2j/a_young_female_leopard_grows_attached_to_a_baby/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)


10010101110011011010

Yeah, but that's _your_ anthropomorphizing. I could see either explanation being plausible.


hunteram

I don't think anthropomorphize means what you think it means.


10010101110011011010

You're anthropomorphizing again!!


mycorgiisamazing

Honestly I think the lion is rasping into the flesh of the antelope, you can see an open wound where the lion was licking the calf. Lion tongues are designed to scrape flesh from bones


Budget-Falcon767

Exactly. Domestic cat tongues are made of medium grit sandpaper. Lion tongues are made of fucking knives.


Knight_Blazer

When it gets up you can see that the area the lioness was licking was covered in bleeding wounds.


PokemonForeverBaby

Definitely anthropomorphism at play here. Animals do not think that way at all lol


sfgisz

>in the hope that the mother of the antelope would respond to her cries and they would also be able to catch her Is there any actual evidence that lions are able to hatch these kinds of plans, or is it possible that the photographer was just coming up with a potential explanation? Asking because humans are pretty notorious for cooking up explanations for things they don't understand or have an answer for.


Masothe

I don't believe the photographers explanation. House cats do this same shit to mice and birds that they catch. I think its just part of their genes. Big cats and house cats all have some similar tendencies it seems.


BlueDusk99

Reminds me of the Vietminh sniper girl in Full Metal Jacket.


visionslip

I always thought that it was crazy that scene was a metaphor for the vietnam war. The movie shows how much time and money was put into training soldiers and when the scene starts they are aimlessly shooting in the direction of the sniper with thousands of dollar in ammo, and it is a ten year old girl who nearly brought down the squad.


ban-me_harder_daddy

20 minutes? that's a mercy.. domestic cats will spend 3 hours toying with a mouse before they kill it.. and of course they won't eat it


Fashajualia

This .. I used to live in a house with many mice, my cat would sit in front of a hole in the kitchen for hours on edge and I'd hear a bang noise , I come out and he is waiting at the front door with mouse in his mouth waiting to be let outside so he could play with his new toy . I'd watch him go out there in the driveway and let the mouse go . He would just wait until the poor thing would try to run away so he could pounce on it again. After about 30 minutes of this he just tears it up and leaves it without ever eating it because he's well fed .


SuperMariosGr

Is there a full video?


PeterShagan

Yes


10010101110011011010

Thanks.


SpoppyIII

Wouldn't it be a calf, not a cub?


Britisheagl

The way they play with their food is oddly terrifying


kima23

they weren't playing with it they were using it as bait to lure the mother so that they can catch her


Britisheagl

I mean the way the male lion was pawing the fawn's ear and just seemed to be having a great time


cold-corn-dog

Tickle tickle tickle!


AL_PL

Eheheh stop it!!!


myabacus

Another happy foster care family


Elsecaller_17-5

To make it cry. To lure the mother.


zombiep00

Plus, cats large *and* small love to play with their prey. >>Much like their domestic cousins, lions have a reputation for playing with their prey before killing it. So, yeah. They like to play with their food before killing and eating it, just as housecats do.


load_more_comets

That's what my cat does when it catches a mouse. Just toys with it for a few minutes. Sometimes she'd break the spine so it won't be able to run away.


Britisheagl

Yeah my cats used to be like this, too. I had a cat back when I lived near a pond and she used to bring frogs home all the time, often with broken legs. FYI frogs scream. It's frightening


load_more_comets

Yeah, they're murderous creatures. Thing is she mostly play with it, kill it and not even eat it. I bar her from going outside because she'll kill everything as big as her in the neighborhood. Once found an adult rabbit, almost as big as her in her bed. Like, where did you even get this thing? I just hoped it wasn't a neighbor's pet or something.


Britisheagl

Yeah my other cat would hunt mice and birds but she always ate them. We ended up have to keep her indoors unless we were in so that we could save them! The frog hunter also used to catch and eat moths. Cats are awful but I love them


NeoTheRiot

Do they actually understand torture or is it just as simple as "Bite slightly to maybe attract others"?


kima23

i don't know man i'm not a lion


jaymobe07

Well do you know one I can ask?


kima23

i'm afraid not


nnhumn

He's lion about this


load_more_comets

Well, that's cowardly.


MelonJelly

The latter. It's learned behavior driven by hunger, not malicious premeditation.


NeoTheRiot

Thats good to hear. Btw are you a lion?


WoofChoo

Melon but they’re easily confused


BizzarroJoJo

It's hard to say. Like is this just something they learned of "food cries and calls more food" or do they actually understand that this is a little one and like how they have little ones that they protect they know a mother's instinct to protect and they are preying on that. I dunno, it's kind of cool to me though that they figures out how to honeypot. I mean it's vicious and cruel to the antelope but this is nature and how that works. I mean honestly I feel like a dog a certain sense of these things. My friends dog recognizes her child and is seemingly gentle and kind to the baby. I think bigger mammals like this have more complex thinking than we might want to give them. But then we see stuff like this and some people want to go to "they're just animals" but then we have a video of a Lioness protecting a Wildebeest calf and it "once a mother always a mother". It's somewhere in between obviously. If you want my take. I think they fully realize what they are doing. Lions attack one another at times so they know what a bite and claws feel like, they know what pain is, they understand that by hurting this creature it will attract another, they have a concept of what juvenile versions of other animals are. I think they know what they are doing. But weather or not this actually give them some kind of sadistic pleasure? Maybe lions are just made to feel that way when killing something as killing something leads to food and that means survival. So yeah killing something and hurting something is likely to some extent enjoyable, nature pushes us mammals to try to get things enjoyable to us so that we survive and reproduce. Maybe we have to examine our own nature in similar regards.


w0rd5mith

It’s one and the same lol. Us humans defined it and put a name on it. Some would call it torture, But it’s just lions doing regular lion shit.


Watergrip

This is hearsay from this thread but you state it with such confidence. I love the internet.


onlytoask

What I really love is when one of these things catches on and you see it over and over again in different threads for months. People will just confidently go into threads and correct people with information they have absolutely no real knowledge about.


PungentBallSweat

The last 2 seconds of the video. You can see the baby making a scream and the lions perk up their ears and look around.


redalert825

"A lion's tongue is as rough as sandpaper. It is covered in tiny spines, called papillae, which face backwards and are used to scrape meat from bones and dirt from fur. These spines make the tongue so rough that if a lion licked the back of your hand only a few times, you would be left without any skin!"


DeDragoner

„Wife, is the food ready?” “Gotta clean it first”


Snoo-77115

Seasoned to perfection with slobber


walrusgoofin69

Getting petted before you get killed has to be the #1 most disrespectful thing ever


PMmeyoursafeword

It’s up there with being licked before being eaten


offBy9000

It’s the way I’d want to go out.


TheQuiet1994

I volunteer as tribute.


Jwhitx

Dm me


Bribase

Bare in mind that it's how they do most of their eating. [Their papillated tongues](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-92d5a84015267439d74b7518bcbe4aef) do something similar to mechanically sanding the meat from their prey's bones.


ShadowSwipe

That must be incredibly painful


burninatah

Idk dude. my wife seems to prefer it.


oktupol

It's not as much petting, but more sandpapering off the skin. Lion tongues are full of spikes, perfect for scraping off the last bits of flesh from bones.


PissAntSlayer

That’s a quick circle of life. Damn!


qu_me

Just in and out of new game


ThatWhiteGold

I choose to believe when anything dies you get hit with a character creator screen and you go again with no knowledge of what your last life chose


whataccountusay

Maybe the antelope still remembers this. So his throwing away a bad roll.


ThatWhiteGold

shit spawn probably


Skalaxius

Man what the fuck was I thinking when I designed myself. Did I just hit randomize a bunch of times and then accidentally click done?


[deleted]

Spawn camped.


lemons_of_doubt

The circle of life is fucked up in the lion king movie It's more or less the lions saying I get to eat you, but you don't get to be upset about it because I will get old someday.


awenindo

It's the donut of life


goodnsaultey

The male pawing at the face like “awe your so cute, i could just eat you up”


AUG_77

AND I WILL.


justyn122

Can you look away? I don't like it when my food watches me


SaltMineSpelunker

Meat tastes better when it is scared.


PixelCortex

Adrenaline doesn't taste good though... I've heard.


jamieluke97

Source? Hillary Clinton?


redditorsRtransphobe

I think you're thinking of adrenochrome.


ucksawmus

even a goddamn werewolf is entitled to legal counsel


WTFZOMFG

Not sure if this applies to mammals. "Most fish die the same way — slow suffocation in the open air. It’s easy for fishers, but it causes fish tons of stress, and floods their bodies with chemicals like cortisol, adrenaline, and lactic acid. Those chemicals make the fish taste bad, smell “fishy,” and rot quickly.  " https://youtu.be/TS4AM9mPX-8


Siegfoult

Butter tastes good, and some people seem to really like buttery males.


devilsephiroth

*i can taste your fear, and it's delicious* - Shuma Gorath


Zephyr797

It's actually a lot worse. When hunting deer for example, if it isn't a clean kill and it runs for a while, it generally has a pretty noticeable negative effect on the taste.


Sandman3582

Tastes like sour, stringy & tough leather, best a quick exit.


captainredbeard42

It's an Nyala if anyone was wondering


Adzaren

I'm not even sure what knowledge I just gained


dee232323

Nyarlatothep?


BoojumG

*Nyarlathotep You screwed up the summoning, now you'll go double-mad.


MelonJelly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyala


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Rabbit-Thrawy

aww they're adopting the poor little fella


AceSpadePirate

In their diet


4ssteroid

Yes, this is the truth


Brainlessguy337

Cougars and wolves do the same thing to animals of prey


Trisce

Yeah, cougars definitely play with their food from experience.


rdxgs

This applies to both feline and human cougars.


iNEEDheplreddit

Human cougars in your area are most dangerous


stevejumba

Just put it out of its misery, Jesus.


BluntNarwhal

Jesus shows up with a snub nose revolver.


heisenborg3000

Now that would be godly


fernandoteruo

It seems like the lions always killed and ate the prey so fast they never had the chance to pet it. Now they are licking it, touching, interacting with. First time.


reshp2

You can tell when the thing gets up and runs a switch goes off and they both go from chill to kill mode. Chasing something running is probably pretty hardwired into them where as prey just meekly laying down doesn't illicit an automatic response like that and the lions almost didn't know what to do.


stehen-geblieben

they are torturing it to bait the mom, not really "chill"


reshp2

I saw the photog say that, but it seems like a pretty healthy dose of anthropomorphizing to me.


dzoya1266

Thanks for the caption... Of course I won't watch the video


the_dark_0ne

If it’s any consolation it doesn’t show them taking the life. They’re basically just holding it and licking it here and there. Other commentators say they didn’t do anything gruesome in the hopes of luring in the mother so they can take home a full meal for the pride. So it’s all the anxiety build up but none of the scary endings


dzoya1266

It's a sad scene anyways... Will skip still, I'm good lol


Sindelian

[Similar behavior](https://youtu.be/yJpT-72gveA) observed between a Leopard and a baby Impala. NSFW.


_____Deadpool

This video really looks like he was trying to bait.


[deleted]

the second i saw this title i was like “holy fuck here we go….”


Randilion8

Why does the female lion keep licking it? I don't mean for this to be a stupid question I'm honestly curious. Is she preparing the skin to be ripped open, or what?


justkai34

they want the baby to cry out for its mother, and a lion’s tongue is like sand paper so i imagine it would hurt or be uncomfortable enough to make the young antelope make noise


Slowhand8824

I cant imagine how bad my life would have to be to become one of the members of this sub that patrol the comments on posts like this looking for people to say they feel bad just so they can tell them it's nature to make themselves feel better about themselves


Bulvious

Yo it's fucking bizarre. Like yeah we know it's nature and that's how it is - we can still express empathy. The only people that really need those comments are the ones that are saying 'fuck all lions they are evil' - which you don't see much of because that's obviously a pretty stupid take too.


SparrowKnight69

Didn't mama teach U not to play with your food!


FrankieNukNuk

Yo the lion really smacked it around like a fucking gangsta