“I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.”
"...a small bird will drop frozen from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.”
-D. H. Lawrence
- Michael Scott
• Wayne Gretzky...........the only man I'd ever have sex with.
"And he slides it in five-hole!"
Damn I read half a DH Lawrence book and enjoyed it, but boy was his writing slow and meandering. This makes me want to pick his writings back up again.
Sons & Lovers was a grind, especially with all the old british slang there was to slog through but I was really glad I read it when I had finished.
To be fair, I've never seen a properly oppressed peasant feel sorry for itself either. They just do their job and then they die.
You seen a lot of properly oppressed peasants?
Ever work in the service industry?
Yes, for years. It’s non stop bitching and self pity lmao.
Can confirm I bitch non-stop
One of the other mechanics I work with got fired because he complained too much.
Yeah, from the customers.
He could be of service to others but not to himself.
Good lord, I made the mistake in my 20s of taking a promotion to manager in a restaraunt/bar... it was like I was leading a day care 70+ hours a week. Never again.
No, I live in an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We wield supreme executive power derived from a mandate from the masses.
What would you have? Some farcical aquatic ceremony with some watery tart lugging a scimitar at you?
Old woman, I order you to be quiet!
Well, I know he’s a king cuz he ain’t got shit all over ‘im
Gods might note the fall of a sparrow but they don't make any effort to catch them.
Me: "Why me, world?"
World: "You were available."
Because you were home
One of my favorite horror movies just because of that line. Like everything they went through was just… just because they were there. There was no usual motive, nothing sexual or no monetary gain no personal vendetta… just some fucked up people going to do something fucked up that night, and this couple was home when they stopped at their house.
Because your people are assholes.
Turns on do not disturb mode
How exactly would people read that from a zebra? Maybe he's feeling sorry as fuck for himself.
Of course it probably is harder to feel sorry for yourself if the blood leaking from your body is going to attract predators from miles around.
So I guess the cure to feeling sorry for yourself is to feel in constant mortal terror.
Because animals don’t have most of human emotions.
That zebra isn’t sad about being too young to get eaten, regretting not getting married, worried about how this will affect his zebra parents, sad it didn’t have enough time to travel, was hoping one day to start a band with other zebras, etc etc etc. In a few hours after this all it knows is it’s getting very tired and it hurts to walk and it’s just gonna lay down right there….
It feels fear and doesn’t want to die. That’s how all living things are programmed
I’ve always wondered. By all the physical responses we could record and label “fear”, such as: rapid heartbeat, adrenaline dump, pupil dilation, blood pressure. Etc.
We would say the zebra is experiencing fear of death. And wanting to live by running or confronting the fear to its best ability (right or wrong results irrelevant) and say it is afraid and wants to live.
But is it like ours? Does it fear, fear, like we do? We are afraid because of X and can quantify it. We are afraid to die BECAUSE we will miss out on life.
Can an animal asses all of that like we do? If it can’t does that make me feel better or worse?
Did our consciousness arise just to put a story and reason to those emotions after they have been around so long? And an animal has panic without reason, which in my experience is much worse than panic for a reason (at least I can’t pinpoint a reason to deal with).
I wonder this often.
As a primatologist, zookeeper, and casual ethologist I’ll answer this for you.
You, and most humans, erroneously perceive themselves and the rest of the animal world as existing on a binary. It’s a spectrum. Apes keep pets — anecdotally, in zoos, and in the wild. Dolphins communicate with us. Dogs are in tune with our every emotion and can smell and react differently toward nuanced biological and hormonal variations we can’t yet understand completely. Whales feel the magnetic pull of our earth and understand; birds, too. Your intelligence and the intensity of your emotions are at least equal to most other earthlings; in many ways, you lack the exquisite understandings inherent to others. The smallest ants are the most intelligent and keep complex societies that rival our own. To place humans on a throne above our fellow earthling is to pretend that we’ve gained all higher knowledges when in reality we’re as limited by our biological capacity as the zebra may be.
I mentioned in another comment I think it’s a spectrum, and enjoy wondering about the almost infinite possibilities. And the great variety of examples to take guesses upon, as you mentioned a few in your comment.
It’s a fun thought for me, especially after smoking some weed, looking at my dog, and wonder if he’s thinking and if so, to what degree. He’s able to express so many things, and emotions, wants and needs, even planning ahead based on routine.
Does he love me? Is it the same love I have?
Doesn’t really matter, because whatever it is or isn’t, is perfect with me.
And also I can’t imagine we are the pinnacle, then I wonder what lies above us that could think we are ants lol
The White Stripes
That's the name of the band the zebra wanted to start.
Huh, now I wonder if zebras are actually black with white stripes or white with black stripes?
They're black with white stripes.
Black with white stripes. They have black skin underneath their fur and the white is the product of an absence of pigment more than a presence of anything.
How is it proven that animals don't have human emotions? Humans are animals. Don't tell me your dog isn't happy his meal ticket came home from work.
You know I’m glad we’re smart enough to be able to put ourselves out of our misery.
"The walking Zead"
"Snap out of it!"
It's just a scratch
a mere flesh wound
I have never seen 9 words that were that impactful
What about 8 or 10 words that were that impactful?
Tis but a flesh wound
Tis but a scratch
Just rub some dirt on it, you’ll be fine.
Spray some windex on it.
YOU DONT EAT NO MEAT!?
That's alright, I'll get you some lamb
"I warned you! But, did you listen to me? Oh, no, no, didn't you? It's just a harmless little bunny isn't it? Well, It's always the same. I always tell you, but do they listen to me?."
>What're you going to do, bleed on me?
Flex Seal will hold it together!
TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX SEAL, I SAWED THIS POOR ZEBRA IN HALF!
NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE
I spit water all over my new monitor.... thank you.
I vomited all over mine. Very funny.
I mean, it really is, you can see that it’s only skin that was torn off. Painful? Yes. Survivable? Also yes. This zebra really could survive.
Nope. There's 0% chance it can survive. The skin is the #1 most important protector against disease and infection. Animals including humans can die from a decent cut due to infection. That area is going to get infected really easily and then the zebra will slow down, and get eaten really quickly.
Now that percentage is just wrong. I there are animals that survive worse wounds than this. I would put survival at 30-35%. Primarily because it’s an easy target for predators.
I love how with absolutely 0 sample size you assume 1 in 3 animals with this level of damage, an actually incredibly rare sight, survive. Did you know that 86.3 percent of all percentages posted online are completely made up?
Personally I would put the survival at a mere 14.11993732%, factoring in the size of the wound and multiplying by the number of zebra stripes affected, then of course dividing by the time of day (which I estimate to be 12:53).
# I would put the percentage of made up math in this comment chain at 100%
slightly less than 100% bc your statement is fact
Were down to 99.98%
60 percent of the time thus is true everytime
Cmon dude I got cellulitis from a fucking mosquito bite. Had I not gone to the hospital within 24 hours I would have potentially lost my leg. Had I not sought medical attention the infection would have spread to my heart and I would have died. Tell me how an animal missing a huge chunk of flesh is going to walk that one off.
Oh fuck, I should check to see if that rabbit I ram over last night survived I didn’t think of the sheer will effect
The immune system of wild animals is in general way better than that of humans, so there might still be a chance. I once saw a documentary where a lion cub had been torn open by a horn of a buffalo, it's guts were hanging out and the vets of the production didn't think it would survive.. but it did!
Plenty of humans have also survived their guts hanging out, it's just somewhat of a rarity without medical intervention.
Well not really. Humans have a really strong immune system compared to most wild animals because they must live longer and human behavior really helps to transmit infectious diseases.
Humans don't just die from a decent cut. Humans survive way worse incidents.
Sauce : I am a registered nurse.
>Nope. There's 0% chance it can survive. The skin is the #1 most important protector against disease and infection.
Grizzly bear 489 (called "Ted") in Alaska's Katmai national park had a huge chunk of skin ripped off his hip during a fight with bear 218. Healed up without human intervention.
Close your eyes and imagine the sheer quantity of bacteria that are settling into that meat. There aren’t enough flies on the savannah for their maggots to keep up with the sweeping microbial wave.
Maggots don’t eat bacteria. Maggots eat dead flesh. So maggots help yes, but they don’t reduce infection.
The removal of dead flesh helps the existing flesh have a better chance to repair itself.
That would be a pretty bad ass scar
I mean, it is just a flesh wound. No internal organs or anything vitally important has been damaged.
Except for the skin
I've treated similar injuries in small & farm animals and they usually heal up pretty well by granulation over a period of several months. However, treatment is the important part - an untreated animal may live, but debriding & cleaning the wound and antibiotics drastically increase the survivability of such injuries.
A zebra like this on its own on the African plains, with predators everywhere and hordes of insects though? Potentially survivable, but I'd say there's virtually no chance.
Thee lords have blessed me with a spare
Good thing zebras are assholes.
Are you referring to the clip of the zebra randomly kicking a newborn gazelle?
We need to see said clip.
Probably this one
This one too
Man, fuck Zebras.
Should probably take them to dinner first.
They don't deserve it
Fucking christ I hate your name
I will take your mother, Dorothy Zebratooth, out to a nice seafood dinner, and never call her again..."
I hate to generalize, but that one zebra is a cocksucker.
Male zebras will do the same to their own young
Had to comment here because the second post is locked but the person's comment saying "I literally forgot Zebras existed" killed me.
Yup I laughed at that one too
That made me audibly giggle.
In reference to the drowning vid: if that was my childhood then I’d grow up to be a massive asshole too. Now here’s the real question: who started the zebra chain of suffering and assholery?
Jesus what in the actual fuck with the drowning clip
I guess panda from jujutsu kaisen is in the right for wanting to punch one one day
That clip changed the world's opinion on zebras.
They’ll never get another cent from me
defunding Zebras won't solve anything.
I mean I think most people in Africa where they have zebras knew this for ages, considering they're impossible to domesticate which in a way completely fucked their development as a civilization.
Even domestic horses can be super dangerous if you're not careful.
Zebras take that to a whole new extreme. Humans probably did try and domesticate these lunatics but their demeaner isn't good for that. They have to be aggressive, though, to survive in an environment surrounded by apex predators like hyenas and lions. You have to respect just how savage they are though, and even with this toughness they're still endangered.
Plains zebras (such as the one in the photo of this post) are pretty common. It's the other two species of zebra - Grevy's zebra and mountain zebra - that are endangered.
There's also a zebra clip of a zebra trying to drown a baby zebra because it belonged to his rival. It's trying to escape a watering hole but he keeps dragging it back in and hoofing it
I’ve been thinking about that clip last few days I now have closure
You'd be an asshole too if you evolved on the African savannah!
I mean, technically, we kind of did... which really explains a lot.
We are assholes as well.
Whichever one of our ancestors first
decided to climb down out of those trees and start smashing rocks together sure does deserve a serious ass kicking.
Probably climbed down to grab a rock to throw at another sapien.
The gazelle clip makes me totally unsympathetic here.
I can only hope it's the same one haha
Zebras are assholes, as a Zookeeper they are my least favorite things I have ever worked with. Give me hippos, cassowaries, kiwis, rhinos, hyenas, ANYTHING. Zebras are awful individuals
Can you elaborate? Give examples?
The fact this was posted right after the other zebra post is pure karma \*chef's kiss\* Good on you u/deadstar420
I didn’t even see the other lol
I was expecting this comment after that video of a fucking zebra kicking an antelope. All my bois hate zebras.
Was expecting to see stripes on the insides as well :(
Don't worry, once it's shredded there won't be stripes on either side
So you think zebras were kinda cake?
Might actually be alright. It wasn't disemboweled and animals are deceptively hardy. There's lots of animals with extreme scars out there.
[like the whale that was chopped up by a boat propeller.](https://images.app.goo.gl/SR6ij1wrw43fcetb6).
It's different. The whale got a thick layer of fat and it's in salt water which helps speed up healing
There's a lot of bacteria in sea water as well. Sea animals still get infections all the time. And this zebras injuries don't even appear to have gone beyond the skin. They have fat around their vital organs as well and muscle etc. But you see none of that. It actually looks like the animal is already in the process of healing. The blood is all dried and clotted.
With that large of a surface area, there are plenty of opportunities for bacteria to infect the wound. It also looks injured and probably behaves injured so it’ll probably be a target. I thought that maybe since it doesn’t look too deep, it could be ok, but I doubt it will survive both infection and predators
Edit: I’m also not sure if the black stuff is necrotic tissue or clotted blood. I’m not a doctor
Odds aren't good but it's not impossible
I think that wound is to Big to heal
Guess we'll never know
I guess so
> salt water which helps prevent infections
It most definitely does not. We actually end up having to prescribe additional or different antibiotics for wound sustained in sea water due to the bacteria it contains.
Speak for yourself, I don’t ever prescribe antibiotics for wounds sustained in sea water. I just laugh and speed off in my boat
That dangly stuff on the zebra is fat. Nothing internal is pierced; only the skin is torn. It genuinely could survive that. Probably won't, but genuinely could.
Damn that is a badass whale, thanks for sharing
> Might actually be alright.
You cannot seriously be believing that.
but the whale
Mammals can survive everything between decapitation and massive skin injury. Of course they can believe that - it's not exactly impossible after all.
Checks date of photo "2019", with note "Zebra died 2 days later after being run over by a vehicle"
Might be. But probably not.
If it's the zebra that kicked little antelope the other day than it's well deserved
Scrolled for this! Fuck that zebra.
Agree, came here for that comment
Obviously he is walking it off. He'll be alright.😐
What’s black and white and red all over.
An interracial prolapse video
He ain't gonna help you here. This is reddit!
I like this comment the best.
At least he will go out a badass
And in shock.
And with a septic wound.
Bleeding his blood!
And in pain.
I remember this one where this zebra managed to escape an alligator but all of its organs had come out because it’s stomach was opened
Then it attacked its intestine thinking it grabbed it iirc
That's one unfortunate zebra to have met an alligator of all creatures
Happens more often then you'd think at Disney's Animal Kingdom in Florida.
Funny thing is people were saying for the photographer to help it,it’s just the circle of life
I hate people like that.
Yes Mr. Photographer, go bumrush the two wild animals, beat the shit out of the predator, and do it unscathed.
You mean a crocodile, because there are no alligators where zebras live.
Unless you perhaps saw a clip of a zebra in Florida?
Thoughts and prayers.
He will make it to dinner…unfortunately he is the main course.
Not a biology expert, but might it survive? I’m always amazed at how tough wild animals are. My gut says, this animal might make it. My best guess is the biggest threat to this animal (assuming it survives infection) is a group of lions or something that see it as being weak and target it before it has a chance to heal. But like I said, I could be totally wrong, I have a “I watched nova a few times, David Attenborough and stuff” level of biology education.
It's not impossible.
Either this is a relatively fresh wound that didn't breach the peritoneum (i.e. we are looking at the bloody subcutaneous layer when skin was ripped off but it's not really a deep wound) then it could heal with time.
Alternatively we might be seeing an old wound that did breach the peritoneum but now has granulation tissue covering the intestines. This tissue can essentially create a new skin over the area, but will be a permanent defect in the abdominal wall and likely remain high risk for infections, other intra-abdominal complications, etc.
I suspect it's the former.
Damn, it's toast. Just hanging out waiting until another predator sees this and takes it out before the infections set in.
It’s just a flesh wound
Anyone got neosporin?
I ain't hear no bell, MF.
on that note, incredibly [nsfw/nsfl](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVnDJMjNySg) youtube clip of an impala fighting with insides perforated by "wild dogs"
Blargh, that's gotta be painful. =/
Doesn't look like blood loss is an issue but the raging infection that's going to develop...
After seeing a zebra kicking the fuck out of a baby antelope the other day on here, for no reason, I feel less sympathy than usual.
Large wild animals always seem so unbothered but their horrific injuries
His skin fell off.
Does that normally happen?
It happens when something causes their skin to fall off
He'll be alright. Only the skin is torn off. If he can stave off infection, or the infection is mild enough, he'll live. But it might be that this'll not kill him, but another predator does as he is weakened now.
What do you even do in that situation
Probably stand about, maybe eat a bit, drink a bit, and if nothing else eats you in the meantime you get weaker and weaker until you eventually can't move. If you're lucky you'll die quietly somewhere comfortable.
That said, animals do recover from some serious injuries. Having half your torso skinned is a pretty bad one though.
I was expecting porno not a Zebra missing it's stomach but I'll do it anyway