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Best time to pick up enemy fetches?

Best time to pick up enemy fetches?

goldenCapitalist

Removed, violates rule 4.


Hmukherj

If you've been in the community forever, how have you not seen the other like 10 posts on this exact topic? If you want them to play with, pick a price you're comfortable with and pull the trigger when they hit that point. It's not worth stressing out over trying to time the market perfectly to get the absolute rock bottom price. And if you're limited by your budget, you'll absolutely get more bang for your buck sticking to the base versions.


Daotar

I should really tell myself this more.


mattbag00

Gotta wait for cards to be released in 4/5 days, then we'll see the impact of mass demand. People seem to be pretty eager to let go old prints anyway, so the price should be sweet.


thehorg

Yes/no.


Temporary_Kangaroo_3

You and everyone else that plays anything but standard is trying to time this too. Its kind of an unpopular opinion but blue mana fetches might not drop all that much from where they are right now. Nobody really knows the future. Pick an entry point some time this week and just do it, if you want to play with some you finally got a few! If they drop even more in price then buy more!


deminotaur

Fact: LGS 's are getting reduced Draft Booster allocation Opinion: buy when you are comfortable with the price. For me, 40 dollar Misty's and Tarns is pretty damn good. 25 dollar Mesas, Catacombs and Flats, damn good price.


zeroman987

Mesa and flats are pre selling under $25. They will go below $20


deminotaur

Then I'll buy more, I was simply stating the price I was comfortable with, 75% reduction is pretty damn good


SparkOfFailure

Hard to tell, where I was, the Filter Lands from Double Masters hit their lowest on **release weekend.** The pathway lands from Zendikar Rising hit their absolute lowest at **1 month after release**. Pathway lands from Kaldheim on the other hand, hit their lowest on **release weekend** again. Snarl lands from Strixhaven however, till haven't hit their lowest point yet, and projected to be lower than even the temple lands. Triomes from Ikoria hit their lowest about **a month after release**, but due to the pandemic, this point may not be accurate.


coelomate

Good question. I dug into the Modern Masters 2017 fetchland reprint, including threads with exactly this title on this subreddit. Scalding Tarn hit its low point and rebounded by the Wednesday after release. For this set, that would be Wednesday June 23rd. Peak *initial* supply should hit just a few days before Weds the 23rd, as stores are free to sell and Amazon pre-orders get delivered. One of two things will then happen: * *Fetches rebound quickly again*. There's pent up demand waiting for this moment (new Arena players have never seen an enemy fetch printing!), and maybe most importantly, people expect them to go back up and so demand increases dramatically as prices drop. If we eat through the initial supply (oh no COVID shipping delays sorry!), they could even spike hard. * *This time is different*. Higher supply and fancy alternatives in collector boosters make "regular" fetches a little less shiny, and powerful new cards + new-to-modern reprints eat up a lot of value. Mass opening sellers undercut each other deeper than pent-up demand can handle, and fetches bleed even lower. We really don't know, but based on that, I'm buying at least *some* fetchlands before next Wednesday.


Daotar

MM17 is a very bad reference point though. That was a highly limited print run set, whereas MH1 is print to demand, which completely changes the dynamics at work. It's like trying to compare Commander Collection: Green to a Signature Spellbook.


coelomate

That's fair, I may not be fully accounting for the difference between print to demand (MH2) and limited print run (MM3).


Daotar

Yeah, we still don't know exactly what the print run is going to look like, but I'd expect it to be more like MH1 or Commander Legends. Perhaps it's scarce initially, and who knows what will happen with the Collector boosters, but over the coming weeks/months I expect supply to flood the market and for that to create continued downward pressure on prices.


Squishyflapp

I think that's a bad idea. So many people are going to jump the gun on this and be burned. Fetches are going straight to pound town. Wait for Mistys and tarns when they are $25ish. Grab Catacombs at $20 and flats/mesa when they are $15


coelomate

There were lots of comments to this effect in 2017 when MM3 came out too. They were all wrong.


Squishyflapp

Yeaaaaaa...Modern Masters 2017 and Modern Horizons 2 are completely different beasts all together haha. One was a lower print run masters set that had historically bad collation and 1-2 fetches per box with one single variant. The other is a print to demand set with 3 different types of boosters, 7 (yep, seven) different variants for each fetch, even collation with around 3 fetches per box (so far, with over 120 boxes I've seen opened), and is literally the most hyped set of mtg this year (possibly ever). Wizards will keep milking the MH2 cow for the entire year. You can also look at 2XM and CL for a good view at where staples will end up by the end of this year. Collector Boosters especially, have changed everything when it comes to reprints. This time, we aren't wrong. But my philosophy has always been buy the cards you want to play when you want to play. If $40 is appealing to you...then pay it!


coelomate

$30 Tarn/Rainforest is more what I'm expecting rather than $40, but we'll see. You bring up a good point about Modern Masters 2017 not being print to demand, I probably wasn't fully considering the impact that would have.


NexPhr3ak0r

Personally I am waiting for $15-$18 on Mesa and Marsh and 25-30 on catacombs, tarn and misty. In that range I will be happy with the price I pay.