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joshtw13

“Immediate” attention, no. Should be fixed, yes.


NotARealTiger

So in your mind would it have to literally be leaking to require "immediate" attention? Because TBH that looks pretty bad, you can see drips.


joshtw13

It’s probably looked like this for years and no one has noticed. No leaking occurring, don’t need to call a plumber in on a weekend to replace the fittings, but for sure needs to be on the todo list.


Skuntank

This is the kinda thing you replace when you swap the water heater. These leaks kinda seal themselves lol


sTaCKs9011

The buildup you see all over the fitting is the "fixed itself" part


blucifers_cajones

is that buildup just from hard water?


555-Rally

It's corrosion from 2 incompatible metals. Copper+Steel = corrosion. In the water heater there are sacrificial rods (magnesium?) that corrode first. Tank = steel, piping in the building is copper, and it's basically rusting/corroding inside, as well as that fitting/pipe. The rod inside probably finished corroding and is sitting in a "puddle" at the bottom of the tank. Eventually the tank will leak out the bottom or crack. Water tanks last ~10-15yrs usually, cheap ones (fewer/small sacrificial rods) only ~7-10yrs. The tank and pipe fitting should be replaced, but there's nothing scary or shocking or an emergency to it.


jxf

That's definitely not guaranteed to be the case. There is a dielectric failure here; the pipe is dissolving itself and eventually there won't be a pipe anymore.


Slaviphile501

That's the difference between "immediate" and "eventual" As a plumber yeah that's not an immediate fix and definitely not a come in on Saturday fix, but it's definitely something I'd do in the next couple of weeks when I have downtime


Ferro_Giconi

That's what the mineral buildup is for, it replaces the pipe!


jxf

You're not wrong, in the same way that rust "replaces" iron. 😅


VoltaicSketchyTeapot

If it behaves like the hot water on our washer, it's literally not going anywhere for years. When we bought a new washer, we paid a plumber $150 to cut it off the supply pipe because we were afraid it was going to break off inside the wall if my husband tried to break the corrosion with brute strength. If the corrosion was going to fail, we could have gotten the hose off ourselves and saved the money. The corrosion ends up sealing the pipe. ETA: The pipe will fail when it finishes eating through the source material.


Tyler_Zoro

The one on the left is a bit more concerning, but neither of them look like they are about to fail. If it were me, I'd replace both with something that was fitted better, but if the leakage were constant, you would see more damage around the area. As it is, you're probably getting a drop or two every day or so. Not an extreme worry.


TheDungeonCrawler

To add to this, maintenance uses the word immediate to mean that it isn't a procedure that is an emergency. So this is likely already on the docket to be repaird, but it's on the docket in the order it was brought to maintenance's attention. If it begins to looks like it will fail, let them know and they'll probably bump it up the agenda and get it done within the week, if not the day.


Ghostglitch07

This heavily depends on the mantinence. I definitely have had some where "non-immediate" meant "not until it becomes a larger problem."


TheDungeonCrawler

That is totally fair, I just mean that this is the standard layman's language for "We'll get to it, but it's not a problem right this second."


-BigGirlPants-

This is exactly right. Everyone is just assuming that OP's landlord is blowing them off indefinitely, when it's more likely they're just putting it off because it's just not urgent enough to send someone out on a Sunday. There's no reason to interrupt a maintenance tech's weekend with their family for something that can be fixed on a regular work day...


Outside_The_Walls

> So in your mind Not just in their mind, but also here in reality.


PaperPlaythings

The drips are more likely from condensation than leaks.


heyumami

To me, immediate is tonight/tomorrow. This should be repaired in the coming month ideally.


Holiday_Breadfruit43

It looks reasonable stable, so it definitely doesn’t require immediate attention, but does need repaired. The corrosion appears to be caused by electrolysis between dissimilar metals: copper and steel.


LoLiAteYourKitty

Metal is touching another metal and now you have gross


molehunterz

And soon, wet


Dizzy-Ad-2248

and then slippery


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Rubicon518

Those 4 comments sound like typical droid sex to me. Gross,wet.slippery,moldy droids bumping uglies. We see this all the time in the android porn industry. It should be fixed post haste per C-3POSHA regulations. PS sorry just did a bong hit for the 1st time in years.


LoLiAteYourKitty

Never apologize on Reddit friend, own it.


Rubicon518

You’re right. My apologies, so sorry.


5thDimensionBookcase

How’s the bong?


plzuseasterisks

Probably broken considering they hit it


bearbarebere

Damn it I was gonna say that


Rubicon518

Actually that was me fucking around too. I live in a recreational state so can legally grow. I’ve got a green thumb from well b4 the law changed and make nice live rosin (hash oil using no chemical solvents-ice water extraction then a little heat w/literal tons of pressure instead of something like butane) and puff flower & oil daily. Just thought it was a funny image to put in heads & MUCH better then all the shit I just driveled in your direction


AmaranthWrath

C-3POSHA is my new fanfic and no one can stop me.


Rubicon518

Who in their right mind would try and stop that from coming into existence? I give my full permission of use for 1% of gross 2.25% of all merchandise. Cool?


AmaranthWrath

I wish that my IRL friends were half as supportive as you regarding my fanfic. Something, something, r/themonkeyspaw


ILoveRegenHealth

Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty


[deleted]

Ah yes, the gross


senyorculebra

If only this was r/explainlikeimfive, this would be top comment. Edit: corrected subreddit


mart1373

“Now you have gross” Thanks, gonna steal that line…


kate1567

Best explanation yet


OrdinaryPye

Finally, someone here making some gawd damned sense.


emma7734

That’s supposed to be a dielectric union, and it probably is, but something inside is not right. When the two different metals, copper on top, galvanized below (steel + zinc), come together, it causes a galvanic reaction. The dielectric union is supposed to keep them from touching each other. That functionality has failed, and that build up Is the result. It looks terrible, but it’s probably not something that needs immediate attention, but it should be fixed.


scottonaharley

However over time the pipe, which is giving up its electrons, will eventually fail and cause a flood. Galvanic corrosion is destructive. Edit:my grammar was corrected. It’s should be its


Diazmet

Good thing flood damage is super cheap and easier to clean especially the mold… much more affordable than some new fittings


MissLesGirl

Gives reason to raise rent (less than new fittings)


zxcoblex

Yup. Get insurance to pay for your new renovations. Rent goes up.


Novittuhiphei

I wonder if this exhange OP had with the landlord could affect the insurance policy if a flood was to happen. Any ideas?


-smartypints

I would imagine it would cause bumps in the very least.


Novittuhiphei

I figured so. My bio dad had a situation where he knew something was faulty but didnt do jack about it and since it was on record his insurance basically gave him the finger (serves him right). Thus I think it applies here too but how would the insurance company find out in this case is a mystery


Nice_To_Be_Here

It’s would apply here. At least if this is the U.S. This would be a fault do to maintenance/upkeep. Most homeowners policies have exclusions for water heaters because generally when they fail to the point of surrounding damage it’s do to a lack of proper maintenance. Essentially when a water heater fails and a claim is filed for water damage the policy holder would need to prove it’s a fault outside of normal maintenance. Source: I’m a Jake from State Farm.


ExNihiloish

Thanks Jake! Going to check my water heater now. P.S. Thank you for not saying "hot water heater". That term bugs me for some reason...


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If I was op and god forbid a flood was to happen, I’d go out of my way to let the insurance know that this was brought to the landlord’s attention and she intentionally disregarded it.


honeybadgerdad

Send an email with the photos as evidence so that it has a date stamp


Nice_To_Be_Here

That is solid advice IF the tenant is a policy holder, either some form of renters or a liability umbrella. Most likely the landlords insurance would not pay a claim due to water damage but if OP had a policy they should document all this and give it to their agent to protect themself from loss.


[deleted]

I’ve had a similar issue with my landlord and my insurance. Where I live any physical damage to the building the tenant is not responsible for, no matter what it is. My landlord tried to blame me for shit that was physical damage and I have reported it more than once. The insurance agent ask me for their phone number and she contacted them and then I never heard from them again.


zxcoblex

If I was OP, I’d make the landlord reimburse them for absolutely everything that was damaged first and threaten to sue if he didn’t. Then I’d tell his insurance.


zxcoblex

If insurance found out that the landlord knew of this issue and that it would become one, they absolutely could deny his claim.


sammygirl1331

I'm curious about this too. Mainly because me and my neighbours have repeatedly told our landlord that the building is infested with mice (they are in the walls I stoppered up all the holes under my sinks with steel wool so they are no longer coming into my actual apartment but they are still in the walls) and he refuses to do anything. Mice in the walls are known to chew wires which starts fires. I told my neighbour before when she was complaining about the mice that if we have a fire start because of them I'm telling his insurance company that he did nothing to get rid of them.


Quackerbarrels

Put it in writing to your landlord, include references to your prior exhanges, and keep a copy. The insurance company will absolutely be interested in that information.


SuperbAd9232

I had a mouse problem where I used to live. Initially I could hear scratching in the walls then they started coming into the flat. One time something jumped on the bed whilst I was trying to sleep, that really freaked me out! I did the trick of blocking holes with wire wool and I also used builders foam. I contacted the council they put down traps, nothing. I tried humane mouse traps then traditional traps, nothing seemed to work. I was told later that when baiting traps you have to wear gloves as human scent deters the vermin from going near them. The block managing agents refused to help. In the end my wife and I bought a cat called Hawkeye from a pet rescue centre. We love him to bits and no more mouse problems ☺️. The cats scent deterred any further incursion. After we moved we briefly had a mouse problem at the new address. I could see Hawkeye was watching something and had identified immediately where the mice were coming from. He eliminated the mice (5 in a few days) I then blocked the hole behind my washing machine with wire wool and builders foam. Sleep easier and get a cat 🐱


SolChapelMbret

Ugh it’s seems everything is a scheme or scam smh


Bobbyanalogpdx

That’s because it is. Especially as of late.


SolChapelMbret

Fr I couldn’t agree more


I_Am_A_Real_Hacker

Until OP let’s their landlord’s insurance company know that they told them about this in advance of the flood and they didn’t fix it. Then it’s neglect or fraud. Next up, OP on r/pettyrevenge


MissLesGirl

Either way, rent goes up. "As all of you know, we had very expensive plumbing maintenance (changing fittings), as a result of the increase maintenance costs, we are forced to increase rent 10%. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. We thank you for your understanding" "Please thank apartment 4A for bringing this to our attention. It could have been 20% increase if there was a flood"


supermilch

Lol my rent went up 12% and 14% the last two years and they did absolutely nothing to justify ... in fact they removed the people from the leasing office to cut costs, and now you have to call a 24/7 hotline if you need anything


ja4496

10 years ago, I had a failed toilet supply line. It only cost my insurance company 37,000$. 🤷‍♂️


ExPorkie15

Good thing as a renter OP wouldn’t need to care about the flood damage costs and the owners negligence. Only thing he might need to pay would be for any personal items damaged and if he had renters insurance that would be covered probably.


McFeely_Smackup

FYI, just as a matter of terminology, "flood insurance" and "water damage"; are two different kinds of insurance. If water has ever touched the ground, it's flood, if it comes through the roof or from interior pipes, it's water damage


ExPorkie15

Thank you for being the small trickle of knowledge in this cesspool we call Reddit.


iAmUnintelligible

So not a flood of knowledge, got it. I think I'm catching on.


Murgatroyd314

So if a pipe bursts in your house, you get water damage, and if the water then flows downhill into your neighbor’s house, they get flood damage?


McFeely_Smackup

Yep, that's exactly how my policy reads


Diazmet

Better make sure your renters insurance covers flood damage and you have everything you own documented in photographs… and hope they have enough money saved to afford the first second last and deposit on a new apartment… not to mention black mold causes some interesting damages to both property and health…


scottonaharley

Flood damage from a broken pipe or pump in the house is separate from environmental flood damage. I don’t have “flood insurance” on my house but I was covered when pipe broke and caused a flood.


starfishy422

Correct. “Flood” is usually surface water (like a flooding creek or lake due to heavy rains) which is almost never covered. OTOH, sudden and accidental discharge of water from a pipe or fixture (even a fish tank) is, if you have the proper rider added to your insurance. That rider is typically $10-30/year and would also cover a sewer backup.


GreenStrong

>$10-30/year and would also cover a sewer backup. A sewer backup is when your toilet projectile vomits thousands of gallons of shit into your home. The insurance is a good value.


Diazmet

Or when the city is fixing the sewers/ sink hole down your street and manages to inject cement into the lines causing dozens of houses toilets to not just back up with sewage but cement… do not miss living in Kingston


visegriphands

Where is the black mold?? It’s not about renters insurance. They don’t own the property. The insurance on the place will cover it.


CrumpledForeskin

I mean it still sucks. They do live there


MyHamburgerLovesMe

> Only thing he might need to pay would be for any personal items damaged "Only thing" "Everything you own" Potatoe, Pattatoe


buttbugle

You know how much some fittings are these days, in this economy?! When you got a good decent mold population going you can then sublease out to them. That is a constant flow of potential income if you can entice them to move in. You ain’t a moldist are you?


Diazmet

With the black mold you can self report your rental for being unlivable and use that to evict your current tenants and then give it a quick coat of killz paint and some laminate flooring and triple the rent for some of that sweet gentrification money


CapinWinky

It would take 15 mins and $20 in parts to replace the failed dielectric union with shark bite and pex.


jackrafter88

Too true. I had a galvanized flex line that fed my hot water heater barely touching the hot water line. Pinhole leak developed and spread hot mist in my hot water heater closet for who knows how long… A week, a month? The floor was so rotted that the water heater almost fell through and the whole inside of the closet was black with mold. Keep an eye on your pipes folks.


tagman375

That goes for everything in your home/apartment. Just take a look around every so often, even if you don’t 100% know exactly what you’re looking at. To most people, something can look wrong and it usually is. Like this pipe, you don’t have to be a plumber to know that that isn’t quite right. You don’t have to be a electrician to see that a wire shouldn’t be burnt. Etc.


tdasnowman

If your a renter document. Every time you call maintenance keep track. I had to have a dishwasher repaired multiple times in a unit for leaks. I kept telling the in needed to be replaced cause the new seals weren’t working. When I moved out they tried to dock me for water damage from the dishwasher and cabinet repair. I replied with every email I had sent to maintenance and pictures I took of the leaks and rusting on the bottom. They sent me full deposit back including damage I rightly owed on the tub. Guess it was t worth keeping at that point. I didn’t even dispute that.


Tyler_Zoro

This is true, but it's not going to happen right away, which is why the plumber said it wasn't urgent. The problem is landlords who read that is "safe to ignore."


eranimluf

It'll leak minimally for quite some time before it fails enough to flood significantly.


moeburn

Minimal leaks are also bad because you don't notice them destroying your walls for weeks on end.


pleasegivemealife

So it does not require immediate attention. But should be fixed. Got it.


Hornswallower

Eventually. Like 20 years down the track eventually. Not a tenants concern, OP; just make sure you keep copies of your correspondence with your landlord in case you need to file an insurance claim against damaged contents. As long as you've done your due diligence you're fine, and the landlord will probably have to pay your deductible if the pipe fails.


piledriveryatyas

This is the way. I work for a plumbing manufacturing company.


Nerfo2

As a steamfitter, I feel oddly qualified to comment on this. A dielectric union will eventually leak. There's a synthetic rubber (I have no idea what material it is) gasket between the steel and brass faces that is meant to keep them separate and seal water pressure in, and there's a plastic insulator that keeps the steel collar from contacting the brass solder socket. The gasket always fails. Repeated heating and cooling cycles, and they eventually fail. I learned early on, while installing iron pipe to copper heating/cooling coils, a dielectric union will eventually leak. Every single time. They all do. I also learned that shoving a copper pipe adapter straight into an iron coupling will eventually leak too, but it'll take WAY longer before it leaks. Either way, you're installing a future leak.


vanishingpointz

I have never been a fan of dielectric unions either , from my experience they fail and I'm not sure why people still use them . The funny thing is the nipples supplied with the water heater are generally dielectric nipples so those unions were not needed in addition but the plumber was most likely trying to make replacement in the future easier. The thing with water is that while it is the reason for life on earth it is also the most destructive force on the planet . It is powerful $#!t . From the instant it is introduced to any piping system trying to contain, control or divert it the water goes to work destroying it . I've seen it cause pin holes in fiberglass pipe, stainless steel even breakdown and make brittle sch. 80 PVC . Any plumbing system is just temporary and will need to be maintained at some point all you can do is not cut corners, install them by the book and increase the lifespan of all the "future leaks ".


nobodycool1234

You are not kidding about everything being temporary where water is concerned. My first experience with having a well water supply is that the microorganisms that live in the water (not the kind that make people sick) managed to eat through the magnesium rod in my hot water heater in less than a year - wised up and replaced with aluminum which is still chugging along. So even if it isn’t the water itself eating things away the metal eating bacteria will get it for sure. I’m told hot water tanks in my area rarely make it to ten years.


questionablejudgemen

I wonder how the sacrificial anode in the water heater looks.


apathy-sofa

Oh f thanks for the reminder to replace mine.


Vegetable-Entrance58

Just to add to your great write-up, the rings are usually made from Delrin from what I can remember. Also, in my part of Canada you cannot install new Galvanized pipe, only replace sections of pipe if it is already there. Since the service piping seems to be in copper, I'm wondering if the landlord is just trying not to replace an archaic water heater? I would usually use a Brass/Copper dielectric union and go from there in Copper.


Tyler_Zoro

Yeah, the real problem here is the landlord who is reading, "doesn't need immediate attention," with, "ignore it, it's fine." They should be putting that on the next 2 years worth of maintenance list *today*.


Cracktower

Certainly looks like a dielectric union with the lines. Possibly a small leak building up deposits on the fittings I would file this incident so they don't try to blame the op when it finally corrodes all the way through and causes major water damage


Oldjamesdean

The plastic that makes the electrical separation in the dielectric union has failed. This unit is on an accelerated self-destruct now, if I was the owner I'd fix it within a few days of being notified of it.


Jerryskids3

My first thought. Some years back we had to replace a bunch of these, I don't remember if it was the water heater manufacturer or the union manufacturer but one or the other had a bunch of defective ones where the plastic disintegrated.


vanishingpointz

The problem I've seen is the plastic cracking from overtightening and at that point they are useless


Numerous-Afternoon89

My favorite analogy here, is the 2 different metals created a “battery”. That corrosion you see, is as others have stated, electrons transferring from one location to a other, similar to a battery. This corrosion is similar to what you see in controllers left abandoned with batteries in then for a long time. Pipes made of metal need to be of the same material, or of a material that does not allow electrolysis (a lot of fittings are brass, since brass can usually be used to connect different metals without causing this corrosion) Is it a problem? It isn’t until it is. The corrosion is causing the pipe to get weaker over time, eventually if this problem is not addressed, the pipe will fail and you will basically have water filling into this room at the rate of a garden hose on full blast.


fix-me-in-45

>that needs immediate attention, but it should be fixed So it's something a landlord will ignore for years and years until it becomes a bigger and more expensive hassle to deal with.. got it.


kaihatsusha

"Thank you. I have updated my renters' insurance policy with these photos and your latest email, stating that you're aware of the problem and consider it not an immediate concern as of this date: YYYY-MM-DD."


imperial_scum

The solution is to paint over it. Like windows, outlets and hinges


Rhaedas

Thick enough paint might hold the pressure a bit longer.


Accomplished_Mix7827

Yep! Good ol' landlords: it would be better for my tenants and cheaper for me in the long run to fix it, but I'm just going to wait for it to become an emergency because I don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks for a plumber to come fix it!


shaunrnm

Spending a few thousand is far better business sense


TacticalRoomba

Bro I gained a whole a respect for HVAC/Plumbers after working construction


Dreholzer

“Hello Mr. Wolf, it’s Marsellus. Gotta bit of a situation.”


Longjumping_Kiwi8702

This is an engineer’s absolute dream question to answer


dirtydocnasty

Which is why it's usually a good idea to keep copper and galvanized plumbing separate. They interact too strongly, and no amount of teflon tape is gonna hold forever. Their water is probably harder than dead deadpool's murder boner to boot. Buuttt I been out of the plumbing scene for awhile and I'm not sure how fast it is going to get from this to indoor pool


Turbulent_Major5245

Copper to steel = galvanic corrosion. Hard to tell just how bad it is, but if it were my home I’d clear away the corrosion and see. Might cause a leak, but better to leak while I’m working on it then the middle of the night.


Strong-Estate-4013

Does it affect water quality or the health risks?


Turbulent_Major5245

It shouldn’t.


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dandytree7772

If you can see it in the water you obviously have a problem, but you would notice. Copper, iron, and carbon are all thing your body can handle and even requires in small amounts, so as long as you aren't drinking copious amounts of visibly rusty water, you will be fine.


JazzBoy_AJ

My body loves carbon actually. I need it in large amounts.


robisodd

Look at the carbon based lifeform over here, ya freak


GhostyMcDaniel

Me too. Plus I'm always high, I guess that's why they call me a carbon -based- lifeform. Thanks, I'll be here all week.


GameAndHike

Iron rust is not toxic.


According_Water5533

Household water that you drink feeds into a hydronic heating system through a backflow preventer.


isblueacolor

If I didn't know any better I'd say there's a 90% chance you're making words up here. 🤣 Actually, I don't know any better....


Zorpfield

It appears to be a multi-phasic temporal convergence in the space-time continuum.


Cruccagna

We absolutely need to flush the warp manifolds.


Late-Ant-6616

No, though you shouldn't be using hot water for cooking or drinking anyways unless you really love extra hard water.


MonteCoin

It's the only thing that gets me hard anymore 😭


idcaboutdownvotes

Why would you want it to leak when you're working on it, and then again in the middle of the night?


Invasive-farmer

Plumber here. There is nothing wrong with the dielectric union. What you see there is a small leak in the sweat joint (probably the bottom of that copper fitting above it) and the metal of the union rusting. It will eventually leak enough to soak the insulation around the tank and cause it to rust, weakening it from the outside in, and judging by the leak and those types of fittings that tank was already weakening from the inside out so it will fail sooner rather than late and require complete replacement, at which time the leaking joint will be replaced. Letting the pressure off a tank and replacing a small leak on the pipe will likely result in having to replace the tank soon after repressurizing. It should all be replaced. If it was your property you would do it. Seeing as its a rental And your landlord wants to get as much life as he/she can then he won't until it fails. ... Unless you can convince him of some damage that will occurs when it leaks, like hardwood floors. *edited to add: Yes there is "something wrong" with the rust, however its not the origin of the problem as we discuss later in the replies. ;)


Matasa89

A good landlord would probably fix it early to save money down the line. A slumlord... don't.


axxonn13

>A good landlord would probably fix it early to save money down the line. my dad works with his friend who owns many houses and apartments. my dad goes around helping him fix things or patch up new rentals for new tenants. my dad is from central america and brought with him is work ethic that people of his generation in his home country had. he would fix this. but his friend, who is the owner, would tell him not to as it is a waste of money. He was going to patch a hole in the wall created by a door knob. the owner said just slap a wall patch sticker on top and call it a day. no painting on top, and not a real solution. my dad told him the door know will easily and eventually tear the wall sticker.


Devadander

This is the correct answer


V6TransAM

Knock knock, galvanic corrosion called. Anode rod says hello.


Southern_Kaeos

Strangely I was talking to my brother about this the other day. Nice to actually have an example of what he does for work


TheyreSnaps

Have you heard of how they utilize this on ships? Big piece of magnesium as a sacrificial anode. So cool!


DSentvalue

Yeah I’ve worked building oil tank farms. Some beefy sacrificial anodes there too.


robosmrf

Same thing in the tower industry. We check voltage of the system yearly and we can tell with the anodes are used up. They're replaced on a schedule way before they fully corrode away though


crdotx

I have a very basic understanding of this but am I reading this correctly and that they literally just have a giant block attached to the hull of the ship on the inside and it just gives up electrons to keep the ship from rusting?


GenosHK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFXWjv65JWg Same concept, but about bridges with examples :)


Southern_Kaeos

Well, I have now


Ksan_of_Tongass

I liveaboard a sailboat on saltwater, I'm surrounded by sacrificial zinc.


benchley

Lot of compound nouns up in this comment,


razerzej

There's also an extremely rare verb/conjunction hybrid.


belb6785

Looks like A Clicker from The Last Of Us


Inner-Ad-1308

Yes!!!!!


Oseirus

Doesn't need immediate attention, no, but soon the Army is going to start shooting kids and then we've got a real problem on our hands...


cickity_clicker

Joel moment


Guys_pls_help

This is a certified sad old man moment


Wicked-Pineapple

SHAMBLER!


Little_Capsky

You might wanna ask that in a sub about plumbing.


Magnetron85

Good idea, thanks


Solar_Fish55

r/plumbing


u8eR

Always 50/50 if it's a porn sub or not


mmar141

Its electrolysis. Probably doesnt look that great but its common with water heaters since its 2 different metals. As /r/plumbing will probably tell you you can slow it down with a [bonding wire.](https://www.thespruce.com/water-heater-bonding-wire-4125747) , which effectively grounds the pipe.


buzzbros2002

I saw someone say it in the plumbing post, but just to second it here, renters insurance. And also if you don't have renters insurance, now would be the time to consider it probably.


i_lost_my_stapler

How do you heat hot water?


Dulcinut

With a hot water heater of course!


rainycatdays

That pipe looks like it's out of resident evil.


kraeutrpolizei

If it starts blinking you know where to shoot


peter-beter-barker

Could also be a bloater from The Last of Us


Plupert

I thought this was some kind of abstract cake lol


emj159753

Cakes these days are looking more realistic and creative!


Plupert

The cake is a lie


Jaredbville

2 dissimilar metal together. Electrolysis I believe it's called


Difficult-March183

Galvanic Corrosion


piTehT_tsuJ

Galvanic response and ithere are special fitting to use between the pipes to keep this from occurring.


stickyplants

Dielectric union. Looks like it has them, but they failed for some reason. At least the side you can see has it


joaquin0494

This union is called a dielectric union and is designed to roast because of the dissimilar copper and the iron in the heater. You don't have to worry. This is actually pretty standard for one to look like.. it's not really an issue until it's leaking enough water to get on the floor


Last_Project8411

I find it mildly infuriating that this was posted to /r/mildlyinfuriating


theshnoggdogg

[Galvanic corrosion](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion), due to the two different metals (steel and copper) joined where water is present. It blew my mind to finally learn in my late 30s that this is a thing.


oh2ridemore

DIelectric union is missing its washer allowing the two metals to touch. newer flexible hoses would solve that, as the pipe would not have a physical connection. Have them cut the copper short, solder a male 1/2 fitting, and run a short flexible steel jacketed hose. Along with this run an expansion tank on the cold line.


RogueThneed

Ask what "not immediate" means to the handyman. It might just mean "2nd thing Monday morning".


zxcoblex

It looks like it’s eating through the copper pipe. Did you text your landlord the pictures and get his response? If so, either let him know (or don’t) that if that pipe fails and damages your stuff, you’ll be coming after him to make you whole.


Belllx

I'm sorry, I don't get what's infuriating about it? You asked her, she answered relatively quickly, and now you're getting mad over this because *you* don't understand if it's a problem?


GearheadGaming

I don't get it either. It's not like this is currently causing problems, and "doesn't need immediate attention" doesn't mean they'll never fix it, just that they don't have to drop everything and rush to it. 10 bucks says on Monday there will be an email telling residents to expect hot water to be down for a few hours on Tuesday and that's that. Why u heff to be med?


42ysereh

One on the left is a fix soon type of thing. The right probably next couple of years


Alias-Q

Corrosion of dissimilar metals. Not necessarily harmful to anything but the health of the water system, pipes and water heater will definitely need to be replaced at some point.


TheBitchenRav

Make suer to get that in writing.


Willing-Low6722

I have read the comments. Most people are wrong. This would be a pipe leak and not a flood. No insurance would deny the maintenance as it is not leaking. If you have insurance, your insurance would cover you and then surrogate against the owners insurance. To get back the money your insurance would have to determine your landlord was negligent. this is a grey area because the landlord had a handyman say it was ok. If a plumber said that, then there is no negligence the question would be, is the handyman familiar with plumbing. If not, there may be negligence and this is how liability or subrogation is handled. Was there negligence?? And yes i handle claims like this all time…


homeworkburgler

Go wack it with a sledge hammer then it will need immediate attention.


Usterall

'Handymen' technically should not be working on plumbing that supplies multi residential or apartments. Only licensed contractors. The liability is too high and they clearly are not qualified by definition under the law. So their 'opinion' is likewise worthless. As for the fitting, eventually it will spring a minor leak first then progress. But this corrosion is common with dielectric unions and hard water, the preference would have been a 6" brass nipple as well as bonding water lines as they enter. However the corrosion in the left image is extreme and should have been addressed / remedied long ago. If it's the outgoing hot line and ruptures (laundry room location for instance) it could spray scalding water onto anyone nearby as the water is considerable hotter as it exits the tank before arriving at unit fixtures.


Sacisbac

Not enough caramel drizzle on one of them.


Lemme_eat_your_pvssy

It's just galvanic corrosion (copper + steel = unintended battery + stupid plumber), not a bomb about to explode. There is no danger, other than an eventual leak and maybe some flooding. Get $50k in renter's insurance that cover's water damage and reap the benefits later.


currentmadman

Jesus Christ, I was not expecting to see what looks like a cheeseburger with cancer.


Sarcastic_Gingersnap

You could call code enforcement and get an email address where to send them that picture asking for advice. Bet they get movement for you.


seabrook2001

I'm a plumber. This needs attention right away! That fitting is called a dielectric union. It has a plastic spacer with a rubber washer. The purpose of the spacer is to prevent the copper and brass from touching the galvanized steel. This was either installed incorrectly or it is a cheep dielectric union. Basically what is happening is the less noble metal is being attacked by the more noble metal. Also known as electrolysis.


SpongeBobsBallzack

Does “needs attention right away” mean the same thing as “immediate attention” in plumber speak?


Maleficent_Dot6954

Loosely translated it means- here’s your after hours emergency bill for something that could have waited til tomorrow or next week.


MeasurementGrand879

This is a “It can wait until tomorrow” until it “should have been done yesterday.” kind of thing. It’s not Sunday work, but it should be on a plumber’s schedule.


WhitePetrolatum

So a duke is attacking an earl, got it.


brokejetflyer

My first thought exactly


GoldenPeach

Forbidden caramel sundae


iiitme

Hot heavy-metal infused water yum


WeRAliens

The dielectric unions need replaced, pretty simple.


SingleRelationship25

If it’s not leaking water then she’s right, it’s not an immediate issue. It’s what happens when two metals are mixed. It’s also an easy cheap fix


FischerMann24-7

I’m no expert but I’ve seen this at 3 mile island and Chernobyl…