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Tier List From An ESTP

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matthiastorm

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JohelPA

But respectfully


Impressive_Isopod_44

Yea bro, where are your manners?


Bob7901

But disrespectfully


stp5917

Why bottom tier tho (not complaining, just curious)?


shdjksj

Usually people make tierlists based on their experience with the types... so I'm assuming that this estp and the intp he met did _not_ get along


DragonKing0203

It’s just an issue of understanding between me and most INTPs I’ve met. It’s hard to talk to them, it’s hard to work with them, and it’s especially hard to have fun with them


MrOxxxxx

Yeah, it's pretty funny considering fully developed INTPs and ENTPs are almost indistinguishable.


KKRON3956

Why does everyone hate INTPs?


[deleted]

Not the guy who posted this, but in my exp, INTPs can be frustrating to work with (some can be scatterbrained, pedantic and slow things down by questioning every little thing), but on a personal level, they're the least bothersome people ever.


Impressive_Isopod_44

I get frustrated by myself looking back sometimes so I’d say its fair.


FluffyDragon292

Yeah I’d hate to work w me too ngl. Everything needs to be accounted for and be relevant to the project to move on.


5wings4birds

Most people: Have their flaws, everything is fine INTP: Question and think = Frustrating to work with.


[deleted]

Oh, other types are most certainly not off the hook lol. As for INTPs, it's not the questioning and thinking that's an issue, that's a good thing. Thinking about it, I think it's more that some of the INTPs I worked with were indirect about it. Say I took Approach A, and they prefer Approach B. Rather than directly stating that Approach B would be more effective, they instead take a lot of time asking questions about Approach A and indirectly listing off their (highly detailed) reasoning for Approach B without actually suggesting it until they've rambled/gone back and forth on emails for a while. Now, I love this freewheeling approach when having non-work related conversations. It's what makes INTPs one of the best people to bounce ideas off of. But in a fast-paced work environment, in the interest of time, I prefer putting forth the conclusion first, a broad overview of why, and then being open to further questions about it after. Just my experience anyway. Ironically, Fe-doms can be just as bad with taking up too much time, but in their case, with small talk and being hesitant to make necessary corrections.


5wings4birds

Oh, I don't relate, I don't think I ever did that in my entire life that seems tedious. If I am less knowledgeable either I just say nothing, or I ask if /tell them that approach B would be more efficient then explain why I think so. Just asking tons of questions and being indirect just seem like a higher Ne and/or Fe thing to me, I don't like speaking, but when I do I say what I think, this is how we Ti doms work. As you can see my replies are not indirect, I state what I think. Yes, when we do socialize our Ne and Fe take more importance as our extroverted functions, but at work we look more like silent ENTJs and really won't waste a single second in a fast paced work environment. I even made a meme about that: [https://i.redd.it/r496o161qgh71.png](https://i.redd.it/r496o161qgh71.png) .


Impressive_Isopod_44

I used to think to myself when going gets tough and the situation demands results, of channeling the energy of Gordon Ramsey because that’s what I imagined was the peak of efficient, no-nonsense get-shit-done attitude. “I got a job to do, get outta my way. Don’t make the impossible possible or make the improbable probable, just try to make the probable work.” Impose a hyper-realist outlook on the world and tackle the bottom-line first.


Moist_immortal

I'm sorry i like everything to be perfect and i don't like working without understanding what i'm doing :( chaotic perfectionists


itsa_zae

honestly as another enfj, i like them very much. i could be based since i have 5 friends who are intp, but it’s nice to just have a random conversation with them and suddenly we’re talking about how to solve corruption. in a work situation, they usually don’t really motivate the group to work in the project, and are usually in the background. but if you give them the chance, they can come up with some pretty sick ideas


ICEGalaxy_

just saying that OP actually replied and said the same thing


clmbb13

I love intps


Dragontuitively

I adore INTPs fwiw


DragonKing0203

I don’t hate them at all, I just get frustrated trying to work with them because our communication styles are so different


Citruseok

An ESTP thinking others are frustrating to work with is a joke that writes itself.


Pen54321

Why are you using stereotypes


KKRON3956

Understandable.


Tale-Virtual

I like INTPs. I think they're intelligent, easy going, interesting, and hilarious. I always make friends with INTPs.


NoInjury1499

Social skills is essentially how good you are at getting people to like you, if you have poor social skills like INTPs its hard to get people to like you.


Rude-Durian4288

i like em


ButterscotchFuzzy460

Honestly I feel like this is the first time in this sub I’ve ever seen INTP’s get hated on. Most of us like y’all.


KKRON3956

Recently I have seen a lot of people putting INTPs at the "Fuck off" level.


deliusi

not really compatible with most


DICKTATOSAURAS

L post (im estj)


Bruce_Lee98

Always getting shitted on, but to me you guys are cool (if healthy of course).


darcytheINFP

"if" is a big request


DICKTATOSAURAS

if you're gonna shit on me at least be better than me (im vry salty)


Independent_End_8049

i love that name


vividimaginationn

I’m an ENTP and am in love with ESTJs. Unfortunately haven’t been able to meet one of you guys yet!


Healthy_Seesaw_8492

Soup is my favourite food. Also I haven't tried out soup yet.


Karyo_Ten

To be fair, username checks out u/vividimagination


verbalrockss

As an ESTJ dating an ENTP, find one man!! Best relationship of my life 🌄 especially cause he's a 7 and I'm a 1


Rude-Durian4288

two of my best friends are brothers and one is an entp and the other is an estj


Rude_Translator6004

I know I am amazing


sad_asian_noodle

Avatar checks out


SomeFakeIntj

What the intp do😭


naenkaos

Well then.. respectfully fuck off in return😘


5wings4birds

INTP: \*Exists somewhere, minds his/her own business\* This guy :😡


snowtaiga1

i notice us isfps rank average to below average on these tier lists


DefiantComedian1138

I would rank ISFP in S


SpokenProperly

🥹


MrShlkHms

Me too


SpokenProperly

Happy cake day!


iatepudding

Same


divine_purpose

Not in mine, you’re S tier


snowtaiga1

thanks ig


-Clint--

Ily


melodyinsadness

I'm surprised. I haven't met many ENTJs before but I was almost certain that you guys would hate us based on our online descriptions.


NamineOblivion

Not on mine lmao.


snowtaiga1

your the second entj to say that lmao


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*you’re


snowtaiga1

:(


melodyinsadness

I'm surprised. I haven't met many ENTJs before but I was almost certain that you guys would hate us based on our online descriptions.


NamineOblivion

Well, either descriptions are very stereotyped or I'm a different type of ENTJ that deviates from the norm. I would say the latter perhaps, since I pay a lot of attention on my Fi. I'm a Buddhist and I try my best to be in touch with what I feel, even if my body wants to run everytime emotions are involved, I push myself towards trying to be in a better headspace. That's also why I like Fi doms, I can see them and learn. Also my grandmother is an ISFP and she is a big mentor in my life, very wise woman. She is the most open-minded, free, caring and interesting person I know.


melodyinsadness

I see. That's very interesting indeed. I have met one lady whom typed as ENTJ. Although I doubted her typing. I wasn't sure. Nothing like the online descriptions. She was compassionate, understanding, yet efficient and protective. I don't doubt you're an ENTJ. But I won't assume anything. Just as you pay attention to Fi, I spend a lot of time paying attention to my Ni and Te. I've been mistyped as INTJ and ENTJ. Even ISTP. But I'm fairly certain I'm ruled by what I want for myself and what I want to do. Which seems to describe Fi. It's helped a lot in being efficient and getting things done for myself. Although I still don't have a good understanding of Te myself. I can relate a lot to what you said about wanting to be in a better headspace. I've just came out of a period of confusion on what I plan to do with myself in life but it's getting better. I'm happy to hear about your grandma. She sounds like an amazing person and a great teacher to have.


NamineOblivion

The way you describe this lady speaks to me! Specially me being an SP8w9 with 826 as my tritype. Same as how you mentioned being mistyped and how you know what you are ruled by, I am very strong when it comes to Te, Ni is also very high but I feel like Te is what my initial mind is at. I hope things get better for you, and that you are able to achieve all goals you set yourself to do!


WorriedOwner2007

I'd put y'all in top tier if I made one. My best friend is an ISFP (I think) and she's great


friendlybanana1

isfps are great.


kaitepop96

I always expect us to be dead last lol


[deleted]

All my best friends have been ISFPs y’all are SSS tier


faiora

That might just be correlated with “the type of people who make lists ranking people.” And is that the kind of person you want ranking you highly? *shrugs*


SpokenProperly

Exactly.


deliusi

i actually love them


Rude-Durian4288

estp opinions 🤢🤢🤢


Hexiant

yeah thats fair


_spell__icup

Mmm I actually agree with most of this list tbh coming from an esfp


Rude-Durian4288

who?


Sigismund_Bacsi

I did.


Skye-DragonGirl

Yay an ESTP who likes INTJs!! I love you guys :D


DragonKing0203

Dude you guys help me make my chaos in ways that doesn’t get me immediately arrested, y’all are based as hell


Skye-DragonGirl

Aw thanks, and you guys teach me how to stop being so worrisome all the time and just do the thing I wanna do. ESTPs and INTJs can be unstoppable if they wanted to


AcademicFollowing163

that’s the evil duo


Skye-DragonGirl

Omg an ESFJ 🩷


AcademicFollowing163

yes it’s me


Narc_Survivor_6811

Another one here :D INTJ are awesome. Good fun, intelligent and not overly sensitive. What's not to love?


nitorigen

We hate you too ❤️


SamEnZoYT

+1


Subject_Bus

thank you stranger ESTP 😌


the-unbino-dino

*cries*


Bruce_Lee98

Don't worry, we INFJs love you <3


MedicalMulberry4809

If it's any consolation, you guys are S+ to mine. 👍


kevi_metl

Why are people so triggered? lol


Thisguy_2727

[Look for your name on my tier list.](https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/103bya4/mbti_tier_list_made_by_an_entp/j2y2stl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


friendlybanana1

I dunno, I dislike tier lists but I don't think this person in particular has bad intentions


DragonKing0203

Respectable We seem to have similar opinions on each other Edit: I realize my mistake, I’m a dumbass sometimes lmao. This is all just based on personal experience, I don’t mean any hate towards the SJ types. I’m sure most of you are fine people.


xThetiX

“I’m a dumbass sometimes lmao.” I think you’re a dumbass all the time lmao.


DragonKing0203

This is probably true lol


Thisguy_2727

What does your personal experience with individuals have to do with these mbti types comprised of hundreds of millions of people?


DragonKing0203

I’ve just used the people I have firsthand experience with to make my observations, I don’t have time to make everyone happy with my opinions


Thisguy_2727

Then why not keep them to yourself? Why go out of your way to make a whole list and tell people they’re unlikable based on your anecdotes of people you probably mistyped anyway?


GloeSticc

What? If people only communicated an opinion that had the least resistance, there wouldn't be such a thing as a good or bad opinion. And since when have tier lists been anything other than a subjective compatibility ranking? And they didn't say they were "unlikable," they said that they were "unlikable to him." Do you think people should make "objective" tier lists only? Or are you just upset that someone might feel bad about this?


Thisguy_2727

When hundreds of people say the same types are unlikeable, people start taking it as objective truth. Look at the big picture


BlessedBeTheFlerm

Only if those people can’t think for themselves, which we’d hope is not the case.


Thisguy_2727

Have you met people? Lol This sub has a very large population of teenagers trying to figure themselves out and looking to this shitty system. This is the same demographic that comprises the majority of trend bandwagoners following the herd in a search for social validation. Do you expect literal children to differentiate between bullshit and credible claims on the internet?


BlessedBeTheFlerm

Yes, that's what education is for. The internet has far more dangerous and insidious fake news than what is obviously a single person's opinion on MBTI types. We can't coddle everybody and we can't silence everybody because it might hurt somebody's feelings or confuse some particularly slow person. Instead of crusading to censor memes, have you considered teaching kids? Teach a man to fish, etc. Feel free to post to the main page for the kids that these memes are not to be taken seriously.


GloeSticc

That's besides the point. People shouldn't be censored to save feelings. And it doesn't matter how people "take it" as, because it's ultimately a subjective assertion that, as you pointed out, is based on anecdotes. There are no truth claims to this post whatsoever.


DragonKing0203

This is just for fun man, if someone gets pissy over a Reddit MBTI tier list that’s more of a them problem then a me problem. ESTPs often get a lot of shit, we’re kinda the bad people dump of the MBTI community. You either learn to grow up and live with it or you’re honestly far too sensitive.


Thisguy_2727

So you justify shitty behavior with other shitty behavior?


DragonKing0203

I don’t think it’s shitty behavior. It’s an internet meme. Grow the fuck up dude.


Thisguy_2727

“I don’t think” -Dragonking0203


DragonKing0203

Well you ignored the rest of my sentence to try and insult me


Skye-DragonGirl

Ahaha you can relax now dude 😅


Thisguy_2727

I’m actually learning A LOT about how some people think by going off my beaten path here. It’s actually super interesting now to watch how they mental gymnastics around this.


YourLocalAlien57

The only person doing mental gymnastics is you


Skye-DragonGirl

I agree with your point but I don't think you have to attack everyone for it? At the end of the day it is just a joke. I hate unfairness as much as the next guy but people are gonna start seeing you as some sort of crazy person at some point


Thisguy_2727

That’s a good point. I think [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/103ao5e/this_sub_hates_sensors/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) got me all fired up.


Skye-DragonGirl

Oh yeah I understand then. It is really annoying when people continuously shit on SJs, especially STJs, but I see more people speaking up against the hate nowadays than before.


YourLocalAlien57

You need to relax bro, the tier list is just for fun and im p sure they dont hate every single person of the type. Also its a tier list they made themselves, if not anecdotal data, what else would they use... its meant to be based on people/characters you know of the type.


Thisguy_2727

Good job repeating that incredibly obvious perspective without seeing the bigger picture. Y’all are a dime a dozen.


YourLocalAlien57

If its so obvious then why cant you seem to understand it. Its really not that deep


Thisguy_2727

I understand it perfectly. You don’t have to agree with a point to understand it. ![gif](giphy|HbjDTy6gfBXMI)


__shoe_

da homie right dere


missdanielleyy

Thanks boo love you too 😘


Deep_Craft_3760

Yeah I am kind of glad I am not on top


lanascarnations

the se hate on hate 🙁


_dzeni

Aww I love my estp homies <3


DragonKing0203

Fuck yeah, let’s go homie


GuiltyCauliflower459

Hold up what does that make me as an INXP?


ButterscotchFuzzy460

Finally an ESTP who gave us a good word 😤 Our comparability’s supposed to be terrible but my best friends an ESTP. Y’all are cool imo and it’s an underrated pair when both are healthy. I actually get along better with ESTP’s than ENTP’s. We work as a better team because I’ve got the ideas you got the execution and we’re both in that F-S S-F loop so surprisingly it’s kinda similar to how an ENFJ INFP or ESTP ISTJ would complement each other and we’re both chaotic and goofy af in different ways so we can connect on that while benefitting from having different strengths.


Rude-Durian4288

A couple of my friends were in a relationship and they were estp and infp They honestly have the potential to be such a great relationship if he wasn’t such a piece of shit. and if she was more self-reliant. like you said if they’re both healthy I think it could be good but he just cheats on her and strings her along all the time and she sticks with him through it all and lets him walk all over her to feed his ego


ButterscotchFuzzy460

Oh that’s terrible. Hope she breaks it off and he gets better


fizzycartman

the feeling is reciprocal don’t worry


artmoloch777

How dare you. But, okay.


Aint_Falco

homie awakened all the mad intps lmao


DragonKing0203

Me: Puts a personal opinion on the internet The internet: *feral INTP noises*


Twili95

I'm extremely picky my tiers are like this (unless the person is an amazing outlier that defies trends) Top) ISFP High) ENTP, ESTJ, INFJ Mid) ENFJ, ENFP, ENTJ, ESFP, ESTP, INFP, ISFJ, ISTJ, ISTP Bottom) ESFJ, INTJ, INTP


Deadlypants905

nobody loves me


wonder689

🥰🥰🥰 never say never.


Fun-Carpenter8923

Wow- am not at the bottom for once ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


vide0gameah

f tier tier list


ariesmartian

How dare you treat INTP like that!


Idkquedire

Mad cuz bad


khlaun

Just place every type in "you are a real one". You are all real and no one I REPEAT no one is imaginary.


RogerBoii64

For potential self-growth purposes, what do you think are flaws in INTPs that we could improve on?


DragonKing0203

I don’t think that anything’s wrong with INTPs, it’s an issue of communication. When I try to talk with them my blunt nature can make their ideas feel worthless because of the inability some less developed one haves to filter out unrealistic ideas. A conversation between me and INTPs often starts with them telling me some crazy idea they’re proud of and me shutting it down quickly. Then we both just feel bad.


OriginallyWhat

Can't improve ideas without criticism!


Mysterious-Air8685

me and my dad.. 😃👍


5wings4birds

More like a you problem.


GuiltyCauliflower459

*refuses to elaborate*


TheGuyThatDrove

Omg ty


DMmepicsofyourdog

Thanks, sport boy


SpokenProperly

My son is an ESTP. He likes me a lot, tyvm. 👋


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DragonKing0203

ENTP is funny and INTJ is more motivated and easier to talk to


The-true-Memelord

If you’re nice to me long enough I’ll become a true homie or a real one usually Or well I guess idk what the standard system for that is


Fabulous-Chemical-60

Well fun fact: I am literally a complete mix of ENTP and INTP. Literally best and worse for you at the same time.


_voyager_2

i actually wonder in what universe do infps and estps ever get along


Thefrightfulgezebo

Timeline 14535-Epsilon-Tau-C


DragonKing0203

When a INFP gets comfortable around me it’s honestly really helpful. I enjoy having someone who can smack me upside the head when I’m being an ass


Few_Diver2228

Why r we at the bottom?


BreathOfPepperAir

Glad to know that I'm real, sometimes I'm not sure I am


Idunnowhattfimdoing

I love you too darling


ThepowerofNE

Everyone sucks, you’re all the same. If a type makes you feel better about yourself. Y’all need black Yeezys


DragonKing0203

Dude it’s a meme


Narc_Survivor_6811

INFP is wrong, lol I mean, I myself don't hate them in theory, but it never works. They always drive me crazy with the constant demands for validation. I learned not to trust


DragonKing0203

This is my opinions and I make the decisions


Current-Ad-6435

I love INTPs :(


ezindigo

thx homie, i love xSTPs


trapstew

So do you actually have an ENTP and an INFP homie? I feel like the ESTP-ENTP-INFP trope is quite interesting


DragonKing0203

I do actually, my best friend is ENTP and my older sister is INFP


TheRainbowRider

Lol I’ve never seen someone be like: “INFJ? Yeah they’re alright” 😂🤦


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[deleted]

Sensors bad, me smart and good


Initial-Drummer3258

We get it an ENTP cheated on you


DragonKing0203

Don’t take it personally, I’m just being honest


Atyllax

Am I the only one who hates ESTPs?


StoopidISFJwastaken

You should respect other people's opinions. Their opinions: This post🙂


supremebessyl

I'm INFP and my BF is ISTP. Glad to know we're homies.


ShotgunRenegade

ESTP's are one of the two only types that I hate because I'm jealous of them.


darcytheINFP

Someone finally put the ISFP in their place.


FreakyFreckles_

Infj and Infp need to be swapped


DragonKing0203

No because it’s my opinions and I make the rules


truthfullyVivid

Downvoting this post to the trash where it belongs.


DragonKing0203

Downvoting this comment to the trash where it belongs


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DragonKing0203

Honestly they’re really emotional and it can be draining for me to always be around that


[deleted]

Thanks Se god, this made me smile :)


[deleted]

That's also how I feel about ESTJs as an INFJ lol


Melodic_Elderberry52

ayyy 😉


Crimson_Rampage

Oh heck, I get to be a real one!


AdBroad7909

Never meet estp 🤔🤔 Confused homies :|


lovewithblueroses

😔


AstronaltBunny

Fuck off you too


Ledge_r

It’s hard to argue with this


MedicalMulberry4809

Yay! EDIT: Damn, I didn't think a lot of people would take this tier seriously. Hope y'all have a good day though.


kykyelric

Wow I’ve never been called a homie before.


Silver_jordann

reasonable, still a weird mbti reddit trend to me though


RanDiePro

My friend is an ESTP


_Monokuma___

funny thing, my mom is ESFJ and dad ISFJ so they are both basic together


wonder689

Basic + basic = 2basic(you)