Is that 4 different ad cards in the welcome booster? That seems excessive.


But it makes the packs look and feel bigger /s


Need one of these for my….ya know. “If it works, I’ll take a dozen!” -Sean Connery


Gauzy it up however you want Trebek what matters is does it work!


The fourth ad card was an Arena code for a Dimir deck, apparently the same one that they gave out with the DMU Welcome Packs. Definitely feels excessive, but I guess they do each point to a different website to help newer players.


> apparently the same one that they gave out with the DMU Welcome Packs Yeah, it’s the same standard-legal deck for each set in a block, made up of cards from the previous block. So the MID, VOW, NEO, and SNC packs it was an ~~Izzet~~ Prismari deck, for the DMU, BRO, ONE, and MOM it’s a Dimir deck.


It's a free pack , isn't it ?


As a store organizer, I hate that these things replaced welcome decks - instead of free bulk decks to offer new players, they get less cards and half of which aren't standard-legal. Super confusing and an unintuitive item.


I dunno about your store, but my LGS never had any good use for welcome decks. New players are introduced to Magic by existing players, who loaned real decks. They then often spent money to buy precons that are much more playable than welcome decks. The only ones that wanted the welcome decks were the nearby middle school kids. They wanted to hang out at the LGS for free (parents used the LGS as free after-school day care). Otherwise the welcome decks were just gathering dust.


We constantly had (and still have) people come in and just see the Magic product and say that it looks cool or they've always been intimidated by all of it and it was very nice to have an easy product to offer them for free as a starting point. We have a lot of children at our store (we *do* run an afterschool program), and kids fawn over Magic maybe more than anything else in the store - we would often clear through a supply of welcome decks in under a month.


I think Jumpstart is sort of the replacement moreso than these. Not free of course, but still has that same "here's most of a deck to play with, including lands" with the bonus of some variety.


Shame they only give you ONE but I guess it’s thematic


Wait for the great sequel : ALL WILL BE HALVED. Damn those marketing Wizards!


Except for the cost of the product


Next Unset to be announced!


WotC: why do you think standard play dried up? also WotC: here's a bunch of non-standard cards in your standard set welcome booster.


Well, they're going to have to do more than just pack standard cards in a welcome booster to do anything about standard.


Standard is actually fun and good right now. but it's just hard to find places to play it.


The number one barrier for new players trying to get into competitive magic-standard or otherwise- is and always will be price of entry. In my anecdotal experience, even a basic aggro deck is seen as “expensive” for newer players, let alone other tier decks. Then there’s the looming concern of rotation. All that’s compounded by how easy it is to get into the routine of buying packs/boxes instead of singles. At the same time, opening packs is a big part of the fun for players new or old. WotC would have to upset the secondary market a lot to change that, for example buffing the challenger decks (say Arclight Phoenix) to include more shocks and mythics instead of just 2 phoenix and some izzet guild gates. No easy solution unfortunately, somebody is going to get burned this way whether it’s the stores’ single sales or the currently invested players. I’m not sure what the best way to welcome people into competitive formats would be. Welcome Packs are nice but far from adequate. Offering (playsets of?) format staples as prizes for FNM or other weekly events could be cool, instead of a promo [[Vulpine Goliath]] or some similar worthless BS.


All paper magic is stupid money imo. Limited is the only format I can stomach playing in paper. Spending 200-500 on a competative standard deck just to play casual games at FNM seems like a mugs game to me. Fine, if you wanted to play the GP circuit, back when that existed.


Agreed, and standard is probably the “cheapest” of the constructed formats. But that first rotation was pretty hard to stomach when I first started playing awhile back. Right now I’m content with maintaining a few pioneer decks with some singles purchases from new sets, but if I’m being honest it’s still a lot of money for cards. It just seems like the marketing from WotC for ages 13+ is a bit contradictory, as lots of adults cannot afford to spend that much on a mere hobby.


Not even rotation, each set release is a massive chunk out of your wallet. It's rare that the top tier decks remain the same between sets.


> standard is probably the “cheapest” of the constructed formats Pauper exists. And the only competitive deck that breaks $100 is the deck with 4 lotus petals. Everything else is less than $60. But also, if you’re playing casually, you can absolutely build a fun “constructed” deck for less than $20


My bad forgot about pauper. Yes it is the cheapest of them all.


[Vulpine Goliath](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cdacb147-35ce-4751-961e-576b5f958048.jpg?1562831410) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vulpine%20Goliath) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/183/vulpine-goliath?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cdacb147-35ce-4751-961e-576b5f958048?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


But it's not a "standard welcome" Booster. It's a welcome to magic Booster. And that is what it does. Show offer a variety of cards, a variety of formats that might interest a player.


The issue with that is, 'a variety of formats' is just three If you have a bunch of cards from various legalities, then it only ever lets you play them all in vintage legacy or commander. But if someone hears 'standard' they think its the base format, and then you have to explain that no even though they opened a Phyrexia All will be One welcome booster, and yes Phyrexia All will be One is one of the standard sets, many of the ards in that pack are not actually in standard. and god forbid they ask what a commander is when trying to play standard. It just basically makes introing new players to standard way harder than it used to be. Yes new players being introduced to Commander is fine for getting people to play magic, but when a place that used to help players into standard now helps them into commander, you can't say its not going to change the way new players play magic. For the record, i see nothing wrong with eternal legal cards being in a theoretical 'Legacy Horizons' or 'commander legends' welcome booster. Just like i see nothing wrong with Modern legal cards being in a 'Modern Horizons' welcome booster. I honestly don't see much wrong with treating commander as the beginner format in general, it's certainly the fewest steps away from Tabletop magic in tone, even if its more complex than standard, explaining 1 ofs, 100 cards, commander zone/tax, multiplayer rules, different health values, having far more mechanics and interactions, it's still a good format because of that tone. But if you treat commander as the beginner format, you also can't be like, why is our previous beginner format not seeing as much play.


But it's not. This isn't a pack they buy. It's free. Why wouldn't it show off cards. Some are standard, some are cool legends to throw in commander, some are fun kitchen table cards. That's the idea. Introduce someone to standard, they have the challenge decks. What's you suggestion here? Two options: 1) A pile of bulk standard cards you can find laying around after a draft. 2) playable standard cards, which invested players would steal/fake being new to obtain in order to use/resell. Neither benefits someone being brought into magic. If they like a card and can't play in standard, maybe that will interest them in commander, or pi9neer, or modern, etc. At the very least they get to start asking questions and a salesman gets to answer and expand.


If someone is being introduced to Magic as a whole, it's better to give them a spread of options so they know what they want to pursue. The expectation isn't that they'll play with all the cards in the pack, but pick which ones interest them most. Just as you worry that it pushes them into commander/vintage/legacy, putting standard-only cards would then push them into standard. I think having a mix of both standard and non-standard legal cards is the most fair.


They drowning commander has put me off of commander. I do miss 60 card formats at times


How odd. Most interesting to me is that they have included cards explicitly for commander that cannot be used outside of that format.


I mean you *can* use commander’s sphere in Legacy and Pauper if you want a 3-mana artifact that cycles for free. But it’s really in there to say “hey, there’s this format called commander you might be interested in”


The fact that there are legendary cards in this without legendary borders gives me serious "Walmart Mystery Box" vibes.


Weren't legendary borders not a thing before 2017 DOM? Linvala and Atarka in those printings are from before that, whyever they include them though


Yeah, i started playing Magic in 96, so for me legendary borders are still different.


These aren't reprints though, that's a Fate Reforged Atarka and that set didn't have legendary borders.


That only adds to the mystery box feeling imo. 'Here's a 7 year old bulk rare we're trying to get rid of, welcome to the game'.


That's not what it is. It's "here's a 7 year old cool dragon." Of what dragon is it? You look it up and learn about Tarkir, the dragonlords, mtg lore, etc. Or you learn about commander and build a cool dragon deck, or just Gruul deck. Or you just think it's cool and you throw it into a deck you have. Or you just enjoy having it. Being bulk is the point. Its a completely playable card. These packs are to give new players, not free cards for established players to scalp or try and resell.


I legitimately think experience Magic players forget how good “bulk” rares can be. Atarka is legit scary when you have multiple dragons


Guess every Legend pre 2017 is just a Walmart knock-off then!


The cards don't have the Planeswalker symbol used in the list/mystery boosters to indicate 'reprints'. So that suggests they are built of product WotC had lying around (sorry if this is common knowledge, this is the first time I've seen this product). So it really does seem to be an official WotC "Walmart Mystery Box".


I think there literally being an Atarka probably cements that feeling


Atarka and Linvala are curious inclusions. Perhaps hints they might show up in March of the Machine?


They're simply bulk rare cards that could appeal to newer players that don't know any better. I doubt it's in any way related to the story


Yeah I’m assuming they’re putting some big flashy legends and cheap planeswalkers in there to feature more of mtgs multiverse and not just make it all phyrexia all the time.


These don't have the mystery booster stamp and have their old set codes. That implies to me that these aren't newly printed and may just be loose cards someone can't sell otherwise.


Every welcome booster has the same cards. I don't think they just happened to find thousands of Atarkas and Linvalas just lying around.


Nah they're newly printed, they just used the last layout file they had on hand instead of going through that process again.


Isn't the whole point of the PW stamp to avoid that process?


That was my take as well. The same type of product (that's never worth the price) that distributors have been throwing together out of old stock for years. But WotC official this time (I guess? This is the first I've heard/seen of it).


If you don't know. There are welcome boosters with every set. Given f9r free to stores to give away for free. They are designed to give to new players or people who have a potential interest in magic. They showcase different card types, style, etc. This is to give the individual a chance to see a wide selection of magic. Every welcome Booster for a set is the same. Each set's Booster might change slightly in content.


Yes, last time the welcome boosters included Niv-Mizzet, so the trend is just to include flashy, cool rares.


It's not a bad game plan. It inspires commander builds and they aren't bad for that either.


Every Niv except Dracogenius is pretty good though.


Absolutely not


Well we already know zendikar is a hit from one of the promotional pictures of March But tarkir could be a safe bet…but which one the clans or while the dragons took over.


Current timeline is post Khanfall, so it would feature the Dragons if we did visit that Plane.


Use realmbreaker to somehow bring back Khans era tarkir as well. Normally unreachable but still existing out there. Give us both


I own more copies of that Atarka than I do of any other rare, because it was a promo card they printed to DEATH. I used to buy blister packs (3 packs in one package) all of the time and they came with a promo card, that Atarka card 90% of the time. If they still sell blister packs I haven't seen one since Eldritch Moon


>If they still sell blister packs I haven't seen one since Eldritch Moon They sure do, it's [[Beast Whisperer]] or [[Gargos]] these days


[Beast Whisperer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b7e90355-80ca-49db-914c-62b3a7bd4726.jpg?1631234731) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beast%20Whisperer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/54/beast-whisperer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b7e90355-80ca-49db-914c-62b3a7bd4726?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gargos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4e446e90-6e31-43ed-bcb1-a01422b503c0.jpg?1592517214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gargos%2C%20vicious%20watcher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/172/gargos-vicious-watcher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4e446e90-6e31-43ed-bcb1-a01422b503c0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


I got the ones with [[Stonecoil Serpent]] and [[Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion]]


[Stonecoil Serpent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b34bf7fd-9fe3-43e2-8cfe-7ce7cff08afe.jpg?1572491124) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stonecoil%20Serpent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/235/stonecoil-serpent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b34bf7fd-9fe3-43e2-8cfe-7ce7cff08afe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a8cbc3ba-f552-43fd-a59b-f3d8e3edd12f.jpg?1673305315) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Neheb%2C%20Dreadhorde%20Champion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/125/neheb-dreadhorde-champion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a8cbc3ba-f552-43fd-a59b-f3d8e3edd12f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


I petition for the Leak/Unofficial Spoiler tag to be removed from this post as the image quality is much too high.


Seems weird to me that the older cards don't have the List symbol.


That Quicksilver Fisher art is a good reminder why I browse in dark mode


Seems weird to me that the older cards don't have the List symbol.


OMG a Commander Sphere ... i never saw one of them ever in a welcome booster /s


They just keep downgrading the planeswalker. Used to be a weak mythic, something playable from a recent commander deck. It was a rare in DMU and now an uncommon. I am talking about specifically in the welcome pack. I am a very invested player, I know that WAR had uncommon and rare planeswalkers. The welcome packs, for new players, used to have stronger (but still not competitively viable or expensive) planeswalkers like [[Ral, Izzet Viceroy]]. The less rare planeswalkers are less compelling for new players, in my experience. The [[Ajani, the Greathearted]] in DMU resulted in a lot less excitement than the *mythic Planeswalker* of prior years, in part because new players can't tell whether or not a card is good, so they assume more rare is always better. Please, ask questions or do a bit more research before just piling on downvotes. This is a change I actually care about and to have my opinion dismissed because other people are uninformed does not feel good.


Uh that’s from War of the Spark lol


But it's from the ONE welcome pack. The person you replied to is saying that the DMU welcome pack had a rare planeswalker and the ONE welcome pack has an uncommon planeswalker.


That’s a war walker it’s a uncommon


Right, and the Planeswalker in the DMU welcome boosters was a rare and before that it was a mythic.


No, they don’t “keep downgrading” the Planeswalker. The rarity fluctuates from set to set. M21 Welcome Pack: [[Garruk, Primal Hunter]], a Mythic Rare from M12/M13, using the C19 printing with the Holo Stamp/“Legendary Planeswalker” typeline. Used because Garruk is also in M21. Zendikar Rising Welcome Pack: [[Vraska, the Unseen]], a Mythic Rare from RTR, using the C19 printing with the holo stamp/new typeline. Used because, idk, Jace is in the set? AFR Welcome Pack: [[Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter]], an *Uncommon* from WotS. No canon Planeswalkers were in AFR, so I think they just picked a random one Midnight Hunt Welcome Pack: [[Arlinn, Voice of the Pack]], an *Uncommon* from WotS, because Arlinn is in the set. Crimson Vow Welcome Pack: [[Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord]], a Rare from WotS, because Sorin is in the set Kamigawa NEO Welcome Pack: [[Tamiyo, Collector of Tales]], a rare from WotS, used because they wanted to show Tamiyo before she got compleated New Capenna Welcome Pack: [[Ob Nixilis Reignited]], a Mythic Rare from B4Z, using the C21 printing with the new typeline, used to show a bit of Nixils’ backstory before he showed up in the set. DMU Welcome Pack: [[Ajani, the Greathearted]], a rare from WotS, same reason as Tamiyo The planeswalkers in the welcome packs are, with a few exceptions, previous versions of planeswalkers that are in the set. Sometimes that means they’re mythics, sometimes that means they’re uncommons.


You are right, I am a fool. I didn't realize.


##### ###### #### [Garruk, Primal Hunter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/9/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6.jpg?1625194361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%2C%20Primal%20Hunter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/190/garruk-primal-hunter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/79cfc0d7-fccb-47fb-87b6-08dd32528be6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Vraska, the Unseen](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6ab9d2b-6cb3-4477-8d0e-712c530383bd.jpg?1568004856) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vraska%20the%20Unseen) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/207/vraska-the-unseen?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6ab9d2b-6cb3-4477-8d0e-712c530383bd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/0/10e0d47d-b13c-4d48-881f-8aaa347ef209.jpg?1557576929) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jiang%20Yanggu%2C%20Wildcrafter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/164/jiang-yanggu-wildcrafter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/10e0d47d-b13c-4d48-881f-8aaa347ef209?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arlinn, Voice of the Pack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/5391d2f1-e8d3-4d39-98cf-367888e10534.jpg?1557576846) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arlinn%2C%20Voice%20of%20the%20Pack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/150/arlinn-voice-of-the-pack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5391d2f1-e8d3-4d39-98cf-367888e10534?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/5/354fe9bd-4ec8-409c-8ce5-b29393f3d169.jpg?1557577268) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sorin%2C%20Vengeful%20Bloodlord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/217/sorin-vengeful-bloodlord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/354fe9bd-4ec8-409c-8ce5-b29393f3d169?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tamiyo, Collector of Tales](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/6/76776b24-a2e1-4590-88e7-8a421baf2fc4.jpg?1557577288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tamiyo%2C%20Collector%20of%20Tales) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/220/tamiyo-collector-of-tales?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/76776b24-a2e1-4590-88e7-8a421baf2fc4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ob Nixilis Reignited](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be4370f5-faac-40bd-82a0-b2afe5a25d09.jpg?1625977118) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ob%20Nixilis%20Reignited) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/149/ob-nixilis-reignited?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be4370f5-faac-40bd-82a0-b2afe5a25d09?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ajani, the Greathearted](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6cc78151-8cb0-4521-9674-fb0c67e24a17.jpg?1582053217) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ajani%2C%20the%20Greathearted) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/184/ajani-the-greathearted?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6cc78151-8cb0-4521-9674-fb0c67e24a17?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


It wasn’t even a rare in DMU.


https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Dominaria_United/Welcome_booster "Ajani, the Greathearted" is a rare don't think the people downvoting realize the context, their not saying that a WAR walker cant be uncommon. Though there is still linvala in the mythic slot unlike DMU having no mythics. But welcome boosters are kinda irrelevant anywho


Not really sure why I got so many downvotes but thanks for providing facts. I teach a lot of new players so the contents of the welcome boosters aren't relevant to me. An interesting Planeswalker is an incentive for a lot of new players to get more invested in the game, even if the Planeswalker isn't good. This was the case for Planeswalker decks as well, which had a much higher retention rate than older intro decks, arena starter kits, or Planeswalker decks do, in my experience (this is not real data though, just my observations).




...except it is an official product, just not one that's meant to be sold. It's a "Welcome Booster," which is designed to help newer players get into the game. It just isn't a Draft/Set/Collector pack, so it can stretch outside of a single set. It's really more similar to a noob-friendly Promo Pack.


Yes, thank you. I teach a lot of new players so the quality of products aimed at those players matters a lot to me.


[Kaya, Bane of the Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a9b575d3-f3f9-4ff4-8e5c-da7c2ec69882.jpg?1557577364) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kaya%2C%20Bane%20of%20the%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/231/kaya-bane-of-the-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a9b575d3-f3f9-4ff4-8e5c-da7c2ec69882?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Strange they decided to go with legendary creatures that don't have the new border.