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Does she look super chubby compared to other geckos? I don't know her exact age but I've been feeding her around 6 worms a day.

Does she look super chubby compared to other geckos? I don't know her exact age but I've been feeding her around 6 worms a day.

TaxiSoda

She looks fine but keep an eye. Some animals can't self regulate, reptiles don't really need to eat everyday :)


kitttgonewild

Really? Would feeding her every other day be better? I was following an online feeding thing that said that baby's need to be fed everyday she grew big quick which is why I was worried


SilverUSA

She doesn't look like a baby anymore she looks like a subadult which requires a feeding every other day optimally


kitttgonewild

I'm going to switch to every other day! Not knowing her age is making things difficult


TaxiSoda

I usually leave worms in a escape proof bowl to give my girl the option to self regulate but my crestie cannot self regulate so I have to hand feed him so up to you!


kitttgonewild

Yeah some days she just isn't interested and other days she's a born killer


TaxiSoda

I would try giving her more worms every other day, so instead of 6 everyday, I'd give like 10-15/as much as she wants every other day


kitttgonewild

Okay! I was thinking about doing that since some days she doesn't want any it seems


TaxiSoda

She's pretty big already so she may be a little older than they said tbh!


kitttgonewild

Ive been guessing on her age. I feel bad cause she was way bigger then the other geckos so she had been there the longest


TaxiSoda

Yeah, the patternless aren't popular, unless its a blizzard, then you have a steal :) Shes probably closer to 8 months but I wouldn't be able to tell unless I got a pic of her in your hand or next to something to judge her size


kitttgonewild

I'm planning to get one soon! And she's the best in my heart! She looked so sad in that cage I had to save her


Cttread

Yeah mines nearly a year old and I feed her 10 worms three days a week


cosmic_splooge

I think u stop feeding daily when there like almost full grown I think


kitttgonewild

Yeah she's always hiding so it's hard to tell her size


cosmic_splooge

Well I waited for mine to come out fro crickets I put up a dollar bill to the glass and guesstimate from there since a dollar bill is 6 inches.


kitttgonewild

She's still getting used to us so she will only eat if I make the mealworms crawl into her hide


cosmic_splooge

Mine did the same thing for the first couple days. It is safe to say ur gecko isn't overweight it's prolly right at a good weight.


kitttgonewild

She was also probably skinny since PetSmart doesn't ever feed them enough.


cosmic_splooge

Mine was skinny when I got her a month ago too I swotch between crickets and mealworms and she's been getting up in weight with more tail fat. She's also keen to the sound of the paper bag I get from the feed store and the sound of clicking tongs. With patience ur gek should get used to the surroundings.


kitttgonewild

This PetSmart is always out of crickets so she's only eating mealworms I feel bad :( hopefully!


cosmic_splooge

I would check to see if u have a local pet store that's not a big chain. Even if it's not a reptile store they may have feeder insects. U can also try leopagel for supplement nutrients if u can't access crickets or roaches 🤙


kitttgonewild

Our town is pretty small and the closest reptile store is threeish hours away :( I was looking online but they come in huge amounts. But they do have super worms and wax worms always at PetSmart but I think those are to big right now


fionageck

Keep in mind that mealworms aren’t healthy for their main diet and should make up no more than 25% of their diet. They’re fatty and can lead to an overweight gecko. Good staples include live crickets, roaches, silkworms, and black soldier fly larvae. Mealworms, superworms, and hornworms can be fed occasionally. The more variety in their diet, the better. Regarding how often to feed: I know you don’t know her exact age, but keep in mind that over a year old they only need to be fed 1-2 times a week.


kitttgonewild

So could I feed her the roaches more often then the others? I havent seen anywhere that mealworms are bad but then again variety is good for any animal. How would I go about storing the roaches?


fionageck

Yep, roaches are a great staple. Basically all you need for them is a large bin with a secure lid (with air holes), egg cartons, and veggie scraps. Here’s an article explaining why mealworms aren’t a good staple http://www.geckodan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pros-and-Cons-of-Mealworms.pdf


kitttgonewild

Thank you! If I had known that I would have ordered them before I got her! In your opinion are the crickets easier or harder to keep then the roaches? And how big of a pin for the roaches?


TaxiSoda

Dubia Roaches are by far easier to care for. They grow slowly, they need minimum care, they don't smell. Crickets are noisy, messy, cannibalistic, can nibble on geckos, they die easily and are smelly as hell. I always recommend dubias instead!


coyotelovers

I hate crickets LOL. They stink so bad and half of them die from being killed by their kin no matter what kind of hides and food I give them. Haven't tried dubias, so thanks for the tip!


TaxiSoda

Dubias are great cause they thrive with simplicity. I only have 2 gecks so I dont need a breeding coloney, my buddy had one tho. I use to buy babies from him and could keep for several months using a damp sponge for water and tropical fish flakes for food. They are wonderful to keep in comparison to fucking crickets


Disastrous_Reality_4

Crickets are a nightmare to try to keep!!! I’m in Florida so we can’t have Dubia roaches an crickets are so obnoxious! They constantly eat each other and smell terrible and they are just really hard to keep alive for any significant period. I wish we could do Dubais here, but because of regulations we can only do discoid roaches which are difficult to find at times, but they are soooooo much easier to keep than the crickets!! I’ve been working on starting my own colony - which is also relatively simple - so I don’t have to try to find them constantly. The Dubia roaches are similar in breeding I think, so you might be able to start a colony of your own as well so you don’t have to keep ordering them :)


TaxiSoda

The longest living leopard gecko in the world actually was fed only mealworms their whole life! Sources vary and while variety in diet is often encouraged, it has been proven that with multi vitamins and calcium, a Leo will still thrive off only mealworms! :D


fionageck

There’s a difference between length of life and quality of life. Sure, they can survive on only or mainly mealworms. But it’s far from optimal. Roaches, crickets, locusts, and silkworms are all better nutritionally than mealworms. I don’t see any good reason to use mealworms as a staple other than convenience, which really only benefits the keeper, not the gecko. An accurate feeder chart https://www.reddit.com/r/leopardgeckos/comments/nxl17p/feeder_insect_guide_from_leopard_geckos_advanced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


TaxiSoda

:D Again! Variety is encouraged but they are 100% capable of thriving off only mealworms as long as they get proper calcium and multi vitamin, it isnt always ideal/possible for those who live in small towns. I always recommend dubias before any other feeder but again, it isnt always feasible. An only mealworm diet is not dangerous nor harmful, unlike some other feeders such as superworms or wax worms :)!


fionageck

Those who live in small towns can order online and/or breed their own feeders. There are very few cases in which feeding mainly mealworms is necessary. Feeding only or mainly mealworms can result in an obese gecko, and their chitinous exoskeletons can be difficult to digest. And, if kept on oats or wheat bran, calcium binding can be an issue. So yes, a staple of mealworms can be harmful. I will never recommend using mealworms as a staple and will always inform others on why they’re not an optimal feeder. And personally I wouldn’t consider living off of a diet of only one feeder thriving (especially a sub-optimal feeder like mealworms). Variety is important.


TaxiSoda

Actually, I speak from experience, where I live, feeders die from the heat during shipping, and when I didnt have a functioning car, mealworms were the only choice until I had my own car. I'm not gonna argue with you, I have already agreed that variety is the most important but you are over exaggerating a mild point. A Leo will be fine for a while on mealworms, especially for new keepers that may need time researching viable places to go and buy safe feeders from. Don't over exaggerate/over blow it :)


sexygollum_

To me she doesnt look that bad, but they definately dont need to eat every day. You could start feeding maybe every other day? Our gecko gets food 2 times a week and my bearded dragon eats insects 5 times a week. Geckos usually do fine not eating for a couple days at a time.


ekomis84

We just got a patternless ourselves, and I think they're awesome!


Jay-Bug

Hi, OP! :) Pretty baby. I have a blizzard who is now 7 months going on 8, and your baby is bigger than her. I hope that helps! Your girl looks to be about maybe a year. Did Petsmart have her with the other geckos, or was she a drop off, hon? They usually only have their Leo's when they're young, but maybe the area you live in is different. BTW, I agree with the every other day and not too much comments on the feedings. Also, each gecko is an individual so as time progresses and you get to know your baby, she'll let you know when she's hungry. (talk to her through the glass when you get chances. It's a great bonding tool! So is feeding by hand. They don't even bite hard. I promise!) They actually beg. Lol Too cute. Also, what kind of wet hide do you have in her tank? She looks to have stuck shed on her, hon. Beautiful baby, tho. 😍😊 Congrats!


Jay-Bug

Ps. Rule of thumb... The width of the geckos head should be very close to the width of their tails. Especially in females. If she was a chunky monkey, she would have little fat rolls. She's healthy, weight wise for sure.


kitttgonewild

She's had that little mark on her face since I got her, she won't let me get close to her face without running so I can't get it off :(. And she was a shipment that was there two before the newest one so she was there for a while sadly :(. She isn't an agressive scared baby she gets sits there and looks at us. Is there any way to know her age for sure?


Jay-Bug

I forget that you guys just got her. Its on her legs too. It's OK. Just keep talking to her, and don't ever show fear. I've been bit by a super giant Leo, and I swear, it made me jump, but it didn't hurt at all. I was more surprised like, what the heck is that?(She thought my finger was food because it smelled like worms.) Anyways, as soon as you're comfortable handling her, she is going to need a bath. There are instructions online on how to roll off the stuck shed. She may yell at you a little bit, but when you're done, she'll be very grateful. As far as her age, the only person who could tell you that for sure would be the breeder who sent her to Petsmart. I asked my fiancee too, and he agrees with me. Your baby looks to be a year old, hon. If I were you, I would mark the day you got her as her 11 month bday and go from there. She's definitely moving into her adult phase so 11 months would make more sense than anything. Her size was a dead giveaway for us because we have five of these guys. 😱😅 We've had all but the Super Giant since they were babies.


kitttgonewild

Update! I fed her by tongs today luring her out of her hide and she got her whole body out to get her worms! Also I made her moss wetter then normal and the stuck skin came right off!


Jay-Bug

Good job, OP!!!! I just saw this, and that's amazing news!! I'm so happy she is slowly coming around and that shed came off. Awesome!! Keep me updated on her! She's so cute! Really tho, you guys are doing a great job! ☺️👍


kitttgonewild

She's starting to stay out of her hides in the nighttime! She also doesn't run from us but she does think our fingers are food so we were working on that XD


Jay-Bug

Awwwe. She's bonding with you guys!! That's so great. I was curious how you guys were doing. It sounds like you're on your way. Question.. Does she think your fingers are food after you handle worms? Or just all the time? 😂 If it's all of the time, she'll learn. Don't be afraid to correct her either. These guys are smart. They know the different tones in our voices mean No! Or good baby. However, if you just handled worms, that's why. Lol I don't mean to laugh, but their bites are nothing, right? It's more of the surprise bite that makes ya jump. Not the actually nip. Too cute, btw! Good job!!! Thank you so much for keeping me in the loop. You're so kind. 😊


kitttgonewild

It's all the time I'll be cleaning her cage and she's like oooo that looks tasty. Also we feed her with bright red tongs so hopefully she knows the difference???


Alexiameck190

nah just a thicc gorl


Kaos78cross

That is one beautiful leopard gecko and leopard geckos don’t need to be fed every day


GiraffeKing04

it looks like she has a slower digestive system, because her tail should be a little bigger but im ofc not an expert and a vet should be consulted if you have any concerns


Tarantulalover69

No no no they eat about 10 warm every 3-4 days you can’t feed them that much


Servemelemonpie

Reptile obesity.


StayWildWormChild

She looks fine! 6 worms a day every day seems unnececarly too much to me, sommaybe if she starty getting chonky lower it down.


trihydroboron

Tail should be as wide as the neck IIRC. She looks fine to me. Similar build to our leo


heartlessimmunity

I would cut back to like four