Yes he’s terrible if comparing him to real boxers but can’t judge his form too much when he’s fighting against bums. Let’s see him against someone who knows how to box and then we’ll get a true reflection on his level
There’s a good point that a lot of these breakdowns make tho: ksi drops the left hand when throwing the right hook, and well we all know bout the right hook
Idk, with these youtubers just don't fight the best and just take fights that they know for sure they are going to win. Not that the current state of top class boxing is any better
Also let's be real he's gotten better at boxing because he had the money from other means to pay for top trainers to train him up that most other people can't afford. Not saying he hasn't put work in, since he has, but him clarifying in the 2nd video that he genuinely can break Mayweathers 50-0 streak sounds like he's off his trolley. It sounds like he thinks he'd win it, and that it's more than just a "mindset".
Honestly I do see that and agree to an extent. That is how people become better.
But him saying in that video that Deji could've beat Mayweather if he tried trying to play off Mayweather is a bit too extreme lol. I can definitely understand putting yourself in a frame of mind to push yourself, I just had an issue with him trying to play off a 50-0 boxer.
KSI can't give all the trash talk he's giving rn when all he's fought are mickey mouse boxers in the last 3 years while his rival is actually fighting decent boxers. KSI is trying to use age as an excuse to say Jake is fighting shit boxers when Jake's opponents have way more experience.
Anyways, his technique isn't that great and that's what I'm coming down to here. Fighting Jake seems like more of a distant goal as time goes on, since by the time KSI becomes a better boxer, Jake improves even more and its hard to catch up with him. I'd be surprised if KSI is ready by 2023, but I'd like to see it happen.
Nah what he was saying that Deji went into that fight with the wrong mentality. Deji went in there to “land a punch on Floyd Mayweather”, KSI wanted him to go in there to “be the first one to beat Floyd Mayweather” obviously we all know that would’ve been impossible but it’s the effort and mindset that counts. I cannot respect Deji after knowing that he didn’t take the fight seriously when he had the perfect opportunity to test his skills against the best ever.
Ahhh, I see what you mean. Deji put really low expectations on himself, when he should've tried to bang out Mayweather as hard as he can. You are right. Putting your mindset on the impossible makes you do more things, even if you don't achieve the goal you tried for. I'll be frank, a lot of this subreddit doesn't understand that and likes to take what he says literally not realising why he thinks the way he does. Apologies for my comment earlier, I shouldn't have made it.
It’s not reliance I’m worried about, it’s over-reliance. I say this as a fighter myself, I used to be over reliant on my stiff jab, until an accident really fucked up my tendons. Had to essentially overhaul my fighting style, and I’m still young at 22 years of age. I can afford to restart everything, but he’s in the limelight constantly.
A good eye can catch and punish the over reliance terribly
Evidently not a very good one since you can't even figure out that JJ is fighting at the level where there's enough money involved that every opponent will study the tapes. Why would he show his complete game, when he doesn't need to?
Give away his every favorite technique, fighting easily beatable bums?
He'd be stupid to show all his combinations versus such opponents. I have no idea why you're discussing injuries as if using the overhand a lot will result in that...
The whole point of my post was that once he faces someone with a good eye he will have saved tools for that moment. It's not that complicated, just go ask your coach.
The thing is, if you can’t even look good against low level opponents, what’s there to show?
And you missed my point entirely, I’m saying I was abusing the shit out of my favourite punch (much like JJ is doing), and once I could no longer spam it due to an injury, I had to overhaul my entire fighting style. That’s the danger of over reliance
He did look good, he took zero damage and got the finish without revealing much of his game.
Critique the level of the opposition all you want, but the only way it would have been better was if the finish came faster - which Pineda made impossible by hiding behind the ref.
The only thing you're saying he should do better is reveal more of his different weapons. I already explained why that is a stupid idea, so who is missing the point?
Him not showing more of his game doesn't mean there isn't more of it to show... Like what are you even talking about? He can clearly fight in a more varied way if his opponents are actually dodging or coming back with something.
As long as the overhand is working very well, looking like a simple fighter is perfect - it makes it all the harder for his next opponents to prepare for him.
He didn’t, Swarmz with a month of training caught him a few times. And he was chasing instead of cutting off the ring.
Boxing isn’t all about punching, there’s movement involved, the way you cut the ring, the way you compose yourself during/after an exchange.
But it is clear you’re set in your ways, and I am in mine. Let us agree to disagree
No, he didn't. You're literally making shit up at this point.
Yeah, his ringwork could use some work... The commentators said that during the broadcast, but thanks for regurgitating for me.
And his composure was fine. It’s only his 4th amateur fight, relax your butt cheeks.
Most of his overhands were controlled, but he has instinct of throwing them when he was in trouble or frustrated which we saw happen a few times in the fight.
You should really watch Roundhouse radio video on this, he acc explained it much better and gave fair points that made sense, This wasn’t explained the best and missed a lot of points
Nah bro, I checked the vid and it’s actually pretty decent. He gives the positives as well as the negatives unlike yt boxing who basically just said that ksi should stop swinging
Eh, he's improved but still wildly throws
Dunno if that's just habit for him or out of frustration with both Swarmz and Pineda not really wanting to fight
Think Dillon will actually engage to fight so we should see something better, assuming he doesn't pull out
I don't think it's a habit I think JJ is a prime example that hard work and mentality can help but if you're not talented you just won't cut it compared to some other guys. JJ has heart, chin, power, but man after 4 years still doesn't know how to throw a straight punch
I mean but I unironically do like jj. I've been growing up with him since I was 12 but he does things I don't agree with and I ain't finna dick ride him, he's not that good of a rapper and boxing wise he's got power for sure but he has no technique whatsoever
I mean but I unironically do like jj. I've been growing up with him since I was 12 but he does things I don't agree with and I ain't finna dick ride him, he's not that good of a rapper and boxing wise he's got power for sure but he has no technique whatsoever
Mayweather didn't look 'average' against Logan because Logan was such a bad boxer. Mayweather looked 'average' against Logan because Logan was like 6 inches taller. He really struggled to hit him with good shots purely because of the height difference.
His technique is not completely trash I won't be a dick sucker he is an o.k boxer he does not have any pro experience compared to other non-pro boxers he is probably top 1% in them
You know he's gonna improve over time right? It'll be almost 5 months since he last fought when he fights in January and he could have improved as a boxer and on his weaknesses when he fights
Yes, i remember Jake's first 3 fights. They were garbage. But since then he's fought Woodley x2 and Anderson Silva, that's very respectable for a youtube boxer.
JJ's first 3 fights were Joe and Logan x2. And Logan doesn't have the killer instict and isn't an aggressive fighter. Yes he has a good jab, some technique, but that's it. He gasses out quick and doesn't have a good ring IQ, nor does he even throw combinations. JJ's 4th and 5th fights have been a journeyman and a washed rapper. And his 6th fight is going to be Dillon Danis.
Yes Jake's first 3 fights were shit, but he's improving his opponents. JJ is literally downgrading his opponents at this point.
Woodley and Silva were the only opponents I thought really could beat Jake. Everyone saying Nate Robinson and Ben Askren would win was just wishful thinking. Nate was a great athlete but had no experience and never even sparred from what I heard, while Ben was a great mma fighter but was known exclusively for his wrestling, had horrific striking and was also retired and coming off of hip surgery which showed in the shape he was in. Woodley was a good step up as he has bombs in his hands but is also a very low output and stationary fighter so while he did present danger he’s still a good matchup for Jake. Silva was another step up as his skills are very legit but his age and mileage made it a good matchup for Jake. As long as JJ continues to up the levels of opponent and shows improvement fight to fight I think he’ll be a better matchup for Jake than people think.
I agree but how when jj is not upping the level and already giving excuses why he didnt upped the level and blames the fans. I swear he wanna fight jake end of 2023? and if he thinks time is on his side then good luck.
Dillon is a bit of a let down but I think he may be trying to go for a viral knockout with this matchup. He didn’t get one with swarmz and Pineda because those guys didn’t want to engage with him. Jake was able to get knockouts because his opponents were actually there to fight him, Nate Robinson was literally running into punches. I think JJ said he wants 2 fights after Dillon before he fights Jake, so if those 2 opponents both up the levels I think he’ll be able to showcase more improvement.
you gotta be delusional if you really thought jake didn't had him winning every fight he took. nate and ben were bums and didn't even wanted to win. Woodley came from 4 losses with 40 years of age to take his bag he clinched jake for 2 fights till jake got him clean. No disrespect to silva but man he is 50 and we all know his stamina got him and jake and his team knew it so shut the fuck up.
You realise most people fight bums/journeymen when they first start fighting pro, right?
Any experience is better than no experience. Don't look at Viddals first few pro fights or you'll have a heart attack
Fuck me the reddit has gone to shit. Didn’t we create a separate sub because this problem was getting so bad? A sub dedicated to YT Boxing no? Go do your karmawhoring over there!
He would just say that he is better than any boxer in the world and prove it by fighting some youtuber who punched his meat more than people in his life
Idk why ppl keep hating on the overhand, imo it's a great weapon to have once he utilise it properly. The problem isn't the overhand, it's his timing and accuracy. Also he like to spam it without thinking. Once JJ works on those weakness, its gonna be brutal since he has ridiculous power. Hopefully he know this and is already working on that.
Its not like hes going to take it well, because anyone who opposes him or has doubt in his boxing skill is labeled a hater nowadays by the new fans who think criticizing is hating
I think JJ is realistic enough to know he hasn’t been a boxer for a long time and hasn’t lived and breathed it for 10 years before getting their first pro fight like proper boxers will have
Of course he’s never going to be a seasoned pro boxer but that doesn’t mean he can’t enjoy it, find others at similar levels and put on a show that people will like
He's got a good jab, right hand, hooks, uppercut, power, speed, decent head movement, acceptable foot work when displayed during training. But most of that just gets thrown away during his fights, like we saw in his older fights.
That's why I don't think the problem is a LACK of skill, but rather the lack of ability to put all of his training in place. H
Inability to cut the ring, terrible punch selection etc, are all undeniably problems that JJ just has and needs to completely rework for sure.
This is why the "athleticism" part of the video is the part that I am really fond of. Im sure most of the problems stem from there
Again the dilemma
If I criticise JJ - "bro you are a hater fake fan get out"
If I defend JJ - "bro you a dick rider shut up"
so at the end I don't care about his boxing I just wanna get entertained which I am
Pretty sure he is well aware of that fact and his coaches have told him. Ksi himself knows he isn't athletic or gifted in any sports just believes in himself that's why he wins.
Yet again another delusional person in the subreddit that didn't even watch the video and is harping on his "world class coaches" as an argument. The same issues that KSI displayed years ago fighting Logan still exist today so it's not a revelation or some deep analysis. The video is just bringing light to already existing problems. Even with great coaches, some issues don't get ironed out and the viewers can see from an objective POV. That's all the video is, he's not saying how to treat it but offering his prognosis.
The reason why I didn't give the video a chance is:
1. I already know KSI isn't an amazing boxer, hes just ok with a dog mentality
2. Super clickbait-y title that was seeming aimed to trigger KSI fans into video engagement
Let's all wait for the dillon fight, if he struggles even one bit, then Jake's gonna give him a tough time which i don't think will happen, besides these posts must fuck with him a lot so let's not keep posting the same shit it saying he is bad all it must be mentally draining
I wouldn’t say he’s bad, and It’s because of his mentality that he hasn’t lost, his mindset is if he says to himself “i will win!” He will win. yes he isn’t very skilled technicality wise, but he won’t let himself lose so that’s what makes him good
bro i understand like he needs to go the other way and push swarms into a corner but like when you step into a ring or step on to the pitch you forget a lot of what you learned most pro boxers have been boxing since they were younger than 13 and they go pro at like 20 that’s 10 years of practice while jj has only been boxing for about 3-4 years and he’s still good for the amount of time he has had
Yeah lol he's shit. I have seen people at my boxing academy. NOT me but others for sure and they'd absolutely demolish him and I'm from India and we don't really fund shit like boxing
Jj needs to fight a good boxer to actually showcase his skill, I felt like he genuinely improved since the Logan paul fight but due to his shit opponents we didn’t really see much of his skill. Sadly it’s unlikely that danis is going to be any better
I don’t think comparing YouTubers to good experienced boxers isn’t the best comparison
But if ksi was a actual professional and actually fought good experienced boxers
Then we’ll see if he’s on that leveled to be compared to actual good boxers
Probably nothing, why should he care what a YouTube video says about his boxing skill, doesn't he train with proper fitness trainers, a proper boxing coach, chef for meals plans.
There you go, I don't think he should even consider it, knowing how everyone here basically tells him how "shit" he is how he "windmills all the time and hasn't fought anybody (me included).
And I doubt if someone on YouTube is able to review his fight footage and make criticsim and provide feedback, his training coach does the same but it ultimately comes down to KSI himself to fix his technique.
Listen after seeing the swarmz, Pineda, fight whether you all wanna accept it or not, ksi vs Alex wassabi would’ve a lot closer than ppl expected it to be. Alex is hella underrated as it is. I still think jj would’ve edged it but ppl forget Alex trained 2-3 times a day and was training a madman to seize this opportunity from insider sources. Swarmz ended up looking better than the pro boxer and swarmz confirmed on his Instagram live that’d he’d never put on a boxing glove prior to the announcement that’d he’d replace Alex.
Everyone seems to forget that he didn’t spend his whole life boxing so when he says hes a “god at boxing” he means for someone who has been boxing as long as he has he’s better than alot of others at his level.
This reactions are just gonna fuel JJ even more up and I’m confident in JJ his boxing skills and he is good enough for sure. You lot are just on here running your mouths, while you don’t even have the guts to jump in the ring yourself and instead stay behind your little screen and talk shit and eat shit. Get a fucking life this KSI Reddit is becoming a let’s critic everything JJ does in his life page. Like come on man if you don’t like him get outta here and if you do like him let’s bring this Reddit back as it was back in the day.
Anyone with a fighting background can tell, this isn’t a slight against JJ. He has the determination, the sheer willpower and the strength to win, but his technique is bad.
Just compare JJ and Gib, both started out very unfit. Look at them now, Gib’s fight against Mcbroom showcased great technique and ring generalship. He cut the ring off and kept composure after getting knocked down.
Now we look at JJ’s previous fights, he was chasing Swarmz and Pineda instead of the cutting off the ring. And after getting tagged he was swinging for the fences.
I say again, this isn’t a slight against him. But his technique speaks for itself, his admirable traits are all from his hard work and determination.
Nah that’s nonsense, unless you’re an incredible fighter, what you see in the ring is what you get.
That’s when the body relies on instinct and muscle memory
What's gonna happen is , he'll play clips of it in his video and act like he's laughing at the analysis and that he's a "the nightmare" and start acting like he's the shit and if ur reading this jj please be real and stop manipulating your 10yo kids
Yes he’s terrible if comparing him to real boxers but can’t judge his form too much when he’s fighting against bums. Let’s see him against someone who knows how to box and then we’ll get a true reflection on his level
There’s a good point that a lot of these breakdowns make tho: ksi drops the left hand when throwing the right hook, and well we all know bout the right hook
Idk, with these youtubers just don't fight the best and just take fights that they know for sure they are going to win. Not that the current state of top class boxing is any better
That’s what there doing💀 Dillon Danis isn’t a striker
Also let's be real he's gotten better at boxing because he had the money from other means to pay for top trainers to train him up that most other people can't afford. Not saying he hasn't put work in, since he has, but him clarifying in the 2nd video that he genuinely can break Mayweathers 50-0 streak sounds like he's off his trolley. It sounds like he thinks he'd win it, and that it's more than just a "mindset".
Cause that’s the mindset you gotta have to be at the top. You gotta believe you’re the best.
Honestly I do see that and agree to an extent. That is how people become better. But him saying in that video that Deji could've beat Mayweather if he tried trying to play off Mayweather is a bit too extreme lol. I can definitely understand putting yourself in a frame of mind to push yourself, I just had an issue with him trying to play off a 50-0 boxer. KSI can't give all the trash talk he's giving rn when all he's fought are mickey mouse boxers in the last 3 years while his rival is actually fighting decent boxers. KSI is trying to use age as an excuse to say Jake is fighting shit boxers when Jake's opponents have way more experience. Anyways, his technique isn't that great and that's what I'm coming down to here. Fighting Jake seems like more of a distant goal as time goes on, since by the time KSI becomes a better boxer, Jake improves even more and its hard to catch up with him. I'd be surprised if KSI is ready by 2023, but I'd like to see it happen.
Nah what he was saying that Deji went into that fight with the wrong mentality. Deji went in there to “land a punch on Floyd Mayweather”, KSI wanted him to go in there to “be the first one to beat Floyd Mayweather” obviously we all know that would’ve been impossible but it’s the effort and mindset that counts. I cannot respect Deji after knowing that he didn’t take the fight seriously when he had the perfect opportunity to test his skills against the best ever.
Ahhh, I see what you mean. Deji put really low expectations on himself, when he should've tried to bang out Mayweather as hard as he can. You are right. Putting your mindset on the impossible makes you do more things, even if you don't achieve the goal you tried for. I'll be frank, a lot of this subreddit doesn't understand that and likes to take what he says literally not realising why he thinks the way he does. Apologies for my comment earlier, I shouldn't have made it.
All good a lot of the ppl here are kids and don’t understand the importance of your mindset especially when it comes to competitive sports.
Ksi said he could beat professional boxers so makes sense to compare him to pros
Does Dildo Danis know how to box, though? He hasn't had a boxing match.
Nope he’s poor as well
It’s actually a decent analysis, especially the points regarding the overhand spam KSI throws
You should really watch Roundhouse radio video on this, he acc explained it much better and gave fair points that made sense
I’ll do check it out, thanks
There's no reason not to rely on a weapon that is working. Why would you give away your every trick against bums?
It’s not reliance I’m worried about, it’s over-reliance. I say this as a fighter myself, I used to be over reliant on my stiff jab, until an accident really fucked up my tendons. Had to essentially overhaul my fighting style, and I’m still young at 22 years of age. I can afford to restart everything, but he’s in the limelight constantly. A good eye can catch and punish the over reliance terribly
yes, plus falling into patterns will let you be countered by some stiff shots
Evidently not a very good one since you can't even figure out that JJ is fighting at the level where there's enough money involved that every opponent will study the tapes. Why would he show his complete game, when he doesn't need to? Give away his every favorite technique, fighting easily beatable bums? He'd be stupid to show all his combinations versus such opponents. I have no idea why you're discussing injuries as if using the overhand a lot will result in that... The whole point of my post was that once he faces someone with a good eye he will have saved tools for that moment. It's not that complicated, just go ask your coach.
The thing is, if you can’t even look good against low level opponents, what’s there to show? And you missed my point entirely, I’m saying I was abusing the shit out of my favourite punch (much like JJ is doing), and once I could no longer spam it due to an injury, I had to overhaul my entire fighting style. That’s the danger of over reliance
He did look good, he took zero damage and got the finish without revealing much of his game. Critique the level of the opposition all you want, but the only way it would have been better was if the finish came faster - which Pineda made impossible by hiding behind the ref. The only thing you're saying he should do better is reveal more of his different weapons. I already explained why that is a stupid idea, so who is missing the point? Him not showing more of his game doesn't mean there isn't more of it to show... Like what are you even talking about? He can clearly fight in a more varied way if his opponents are actually dodging or coming back with something. As long as the overhand is working very well, looking like a simple fighter is perfect - it makes it all the harder for his next opponents to prepare for him.
He didn’t, Swarmz with a month of training caught him a few times. And he was chasing instead of cutting off the ring. Boxing isn’t all about punching, there’s movement involved, the way you cut the ring, the way you compose yourself during/after an exchange. But it is clear you’re set in your ways, and I am in mine. Let us agree to disagree
No, he didn't. You're literally making shit up at this point. Yeah, his ringwork could use some work... The commentators said that during the broadcast, but thanks for regurgitating for me. And his composure was fine. It’s only his 4th amateur fight, relax your butt cheeks.
Found JJ's alt account.
Nah, JJ Isn't a beligerent fool. JJ seems to have some self awareness most* of the time
Nah that’s a pro bout, not an amy fight
His last two, both amy.
Silence, you clearly don’t understand boxing very well so stop talking.
Said the ignoramus.
When are you gonna stand up? Been on your knees for quite a while now
Not my fault you've made your mother such a hard woman to satisfy.
He literally said before the fight that this was to: Remove the rust And- **Showcase what he’s capable of**
He improved from the Logan Paul fight, but those wild over hands are still there. But technically speaking, he isn’t a good boxer lmao.
that's exactly what I thought when he fought the swarmz, the over hands
Most of his overhands were controlled, but he has instinct of throwing them when he was in trouble or frustrated which we saw happen a few times in the fight.
Tbf I’d be frustrated too in that scenario, dudes against a “pro” fighter who was complaining the whole fight and just running away
Yeah but for me the real reason he was throwing those over hands its just to get a knock out
You should really watch Roundhouse radio video on this, he acc explained it much better and gave fair points that made sense
Wade Concept also made a decent breakdown on JJs improvement
Legit a good vid
You should really watch Roundhouse radio video on this, he acc explained it much better and gave fair points that made sense, This wasn’t explained the best and missed a lot of points
bro shut the fuck up promoting some dumbass video nobody cares
Nah bro, I checked the vid and it’s actually pretty decent. He gives the positives as well as the negatives unlike yt boxing who basically just said that ksi should stop swinging
jokes aside I love ksi but his technique isn't that good
Not even “that good”, his technique is trash lol
Fax
You should really watch Roundhouse radio video on this, he acc explained it much better and gave fair points that made sense
Eh, he's improved but still wildly throws Dunno if that's just habit for him or out of frustration with both Swarmz and Pineda not really wanting to fight Think Dillon will actually engage to fight so we should see something better, assuming he doesn't pull out
I don't think it's a habit I think JJ is a prime example that hard work and mentality can help but if you're not talented you just won't cut it compared to some other guys. JJ has heart, chin, power, but man after 4 years still doesn't know how to throw a straight punch
So many "i love ksi but-" comments lmfao
I mean but I unironically do like jj. I've been growing up with him since I was 12 but he does things I don't agree with and I ain't finna dick ride him, he's not that good of a rapper and boxing wise he's got power for sure but he has no technique whatsoever
I mean but I unironically do like jj. I've been growing up with him since I was 12 but he does things I don't agree with and I ain't finna dick ride him, he's not that good of a rapper and boxing wise he's got power for sure but he has no technique whatsoever
I’m really not willing to judge him as a boxer until he gets in the ring with someone who’s willing to fight back
A skilled boxer should be able to showcase their ability against a bad boxer
it’s hard to show your ability if the guy is just running away
A good boxer would show their ability though. If you put Mayweather in the ring with Swarmz or Pineda it would be a massacre.
When mayweather fought Logan paul he just looked like an average boxer. When mayweather fought canelo he looked like a God.
Mayweather didn't look 'average' against Logan because Logan was such a bad boxer. Mayweather looked 'average' against Logan because Logan was like 6 inches taller. He really struggled to hit him with good shots purely because of the height difference.
Logan was literally hugging him for 80% of the fight. U need a good boxer to showcase ur skills
Good sidemenreacts video
Vouch
I mean most YouTube boxers aren't good, idk why this is a surprise to anyone. Boxing is a sport that takes years of training to be good at.
Fax
Nah some youtube boxers are actually legit though. Kenny, deji, Salt Papi are all good and have potential.
They’d all get flattened by low level pros let’s be real
Oh yeah definitely, they don't train nearly as much as an actual pro boxer. They all show pretty good technique though
As Zerka once said, "Delusion is an illness". Hope Jj takes that seriously. Even just for a second.
mental illness may I add
Wdym by that?
Probably ignored it and thought ‘I AM THE BEST INFLUENCER BOXER NOBODY CAN BEAT ME, THE NIGHTMARE K…S….EYEEE’
Your entire post history is dissing JJ… get a life bro
It's jake paul fans who act like they are ksi fans and "criticize" him but in reality they are haters.
It just annoys me that blatant hate is getting upvotes. This sub wasn’t like this before
I’m a fan for around 9 years, JJs technique is complete trash and he can’t box for shit
His technique is not completely trash I won't be a dick sucker he is an o.k boxer he does not have any pro experience compared to other non-pro boxers he is probably top 1% in them
No way is he top 1% out of all amateur boxers. Maybe top 50%
People seem to forget about the amateur level of boxing all these big named pros boxed at for ages, honing and improving their craft.
You got so triggered that you checked out my reply history, I think you need to get a life
You know he's gonna improve over time right? It'll be almost 5 months since he last fought when he fights in January and he could have improved as a boxer and on his weaknesses when he fights
Hard to improve when he’s fighting people he should beat
You guys know that the practice/camps is where people athletes/boxers improve right? The main fight just shows the product/showcase the skill.
do you remember jake's first 3 fights now shut up
Yes, i remember Jake's first 3 fights. They were garbage. But since then he's fought Woodley x2 and Anderson Silva, that's very respectable for a youtube boxer. JJ's first 3 fights were Joe and Logan x2. And Logan doesn't have the killer instict and isn't an aggressive fighter. Yes he has a good jab, some technique, but that's it. He gasses out quick and doesn't have a good ring IQ, nor does he even throw combinations. JJ's 4th and 5th fights have been a journeyman and a washed rapper. And his 6th fight is going to be Dillon Danis. Yes Jake's first 3 fights were shit, but he's improving his opponents. JJ is literally downgrading his opponents at this point.
Why are we comparing jakes fights from 2+ years ago to KSI’s now lmao it makes no sense
because he isn't boxing from 3 years 💀
And? How does KSI expect himself to beat jake if he’s lagging 3 years behind him, I mean ik Jake will win but still
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I feel like JJ would win because some of Jake's opponents seemed like they didn't want the win that badly
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Woodley and Silva were the only opponents I thought really could beat Jake. Everyone saying Nate Robinson and Ben Askren would win was just wishful thinking. Nate was a great athlete but had no experience and never even sparred from what I heard, while Ben was a great mma fighter but was known exclusively for his wrestling, had horrific striking and was also retired and coming off of hip surgery which showed in the shape he was in. Woodley was a good step up as he has bombs in his hands but is also a very low output and stationary fighter so while he did present danger he’s still a good matchup for Jake. Silva was another step up as his skills are very legit but his age and mileage made it a good matchup for Jake. As long as JJ continues to up the levels of opponent and shows improvement fight to fight I think he’ll be a better matchup for Jake than people think.
I agree but how when jj is not upping the level and already giving excuses why he didnt upped the level and blames the fans. I swear he wanna fight jake end of 2023? and if he thinks time is on his side then good luck.
Dillon is a bit of a let down but I think he may be trying to go for a viral knockout with this matchup. He didn’t get one with swarmz and Pineda because those guys didn’t want to engage with him. Jake was able to get knockouts because his opponents were actually there to fight him, Nate Robinson was literally running into punches. I think JJ said he wants 2 fights after Dillon before he fights Jake, so if those 2 opponents both up the levels I think he’ll be able to showcase more improvement.
you gotta be delusional if you really thought jake didn't had him winning every fight he took. nate and ben were bums and didn't even wanted to win. Woodley came from 4 losses with 40 years of age to take his bag he clinched jake for 2 fights till jake got him clean. No disrespect to silva but man he is 50 and we all know his stamina got him and jake and his team knew it so shut the fuck up.
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What does being a world class fighter matter in a competition where grappling is banned? This is about if they're world class boxers. They're not.
You realise most people fight bums/journeymen when they first start fighting pro, right? Any experience is better than no experience. Don't look at Viddals first few pro fights or you'll have a heart attack
well, i mean he just reacted to it in his newest video, and he said it was a good video and it has a lot of truth in it.
Comparing JJ to real boxers of course he is going to be terrible but one thing you can’t take away is the power in his punches and his form
Should’ve broke down pineda’s skill, out of this world
It’s a good video and I think jj should watch because jj could use some of the advice he gives. This channel is really good
he just reacted to it in his new vid, he agreed with a lot of it and said it was a good vid.
TBH he prolly doesn’t care
Fuck me the reddit has gone to shit. Didn’t we create a separate sub because this problem was getting so bad? A sub dedicated to YT Boxing no? Go do your karmawhoring over there!
He would just say that he is better than any boxer in the world and prove it by fighting some youtuber who punched his meat more than people in his life
Fucking hell why is this Reddit filled with boxing posts
This one is about jj tbh
Idk why ppl keep hating on the overhand, imo it's a great weapon to have once he utilise it properly. The problem isn't the overhand, it's his timing and accuracy. Also he like to spam it without thinking. Once JJ works on those weakness, its gonna be brutal since he has ridiculous power. Hopefully he know this and is already working on that.
low it fam
Back with the boxing again eh? Guess time to leave again.
its true though. what makes jj good is his will and mental strength
Its not like hes going to take it well, because anyone who opposes him or has doubt in his boxing skill is labeled a hater nowadays by the new fans who think criticizing is hating
I think JJ is realistic enough to know he hasn’t been a boxer for a long time and hasn’t lived and breathed it for 10 years before getting their first pro fight like proper boxers will have Of course he’s never going to be a seasoned pro boxer but that doesn’t mean he can’t enjoy it, find others at similar levels and put on a show that people will like
He'd think it's wrong.
People don’t really understand how hard it is to look good against someone who doesn’t want to box but just survive so they just block and run away
Imo the roundhouse Radio guy video is wayy better, he actually explained fully and gave fair points
He's got a good jab, right hand, hooks, uppercut, power, speed, decent head movement, acceptable foot work when displayed during training. But most of that just gets thrown away during his fights, like we saw in his older fights. That's why I don't think the problem is a LACK of skill, but rather the lack of ability to put all of his training in place. H Inability to cut the ring, terrible punch selection etc, are all undeniably problems that JJ just has and needs to completely rework for sure. This is why the "athleticism" part of the video is the part that I am really fond of. Im sure most of the problems stem from there
Outside of the joe fight I’ve never seen him throw an uppercut
right, ignore the uppercut part then
Again the dilemma If I criticise JJ - "bro you are a hater fake fan get out" If I defend JJ - "bro you a dick rider shut up" so at the end I don't care about his boxing I just wanna get entertained which I am
“Laughing, mocking, 15 min rant about how good he is” That’s what his reaction would be like.
It doesn't matter, because hE IS THE NIGHTMARE: K, S, I!!!!
something that’s true but you guys will never accept😂
Pretty sure he is well aware of that fact and his coaches have told him. Ksi himself knows he isn't athletic or gifted in any sports just believes in himself that's why he wins.
Yeah I think he needs to improve his technique bur he beat Logan who had a good technique and KSI is a lot better now
Pretty sure this was the same guy who said Deji will K.O Mayweather
If you're talking about the guy who uploaded this video, he said it as a joke, like everyone else.
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Yet again another delusional person in the subreddit that didn't even watch the video and is harping on his "world class coaches" as an argument. The same issues that KSI displayed years ago fighting Logan still exist today so it's not a revelation or some deep analysis. The video is just bringing light to already existing problems. Even with great coaches, some issues don't get ironed out and the viewers can see from an objective POV. That's all the video is, he's not saying how to treat it but offering his prognosis.
The reason why I didn't give the video a chance is: 1. I already know KSI isn't an amazing boxer, hes just ok with a dog mentality 2. Super clickbait-y title that was seeming aimed to trigger KSI fans into video engagement
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I take it you don’t watch or keep up with combat sports or sports in general…
Because.....he's not a random guy.
Let's all wait for the dillon fight, if he struggles even one bit, then Jake's gonna give him a tough time which i don't think will happen, besides these posts must fuck with him a lot so let's not keep posting the same shit it saying he is bad all it must be mentally draining
I can assure you, he doesn't care.
Bro 💀
I wouldn’t say he’s bad, and It’s because of his mentality that he hasn’t lost, his mindset is if he says to himself “i will win!” He will win. yes he isn’t very skilled technicality wise, but he won’t let himself lose so that’s what makes him good
You can say “I will win” all you like but that isn’t a substitute for being skilled.
Well when he watches it I hope he commends this YouTube channel for uploading whilst living in that whole crazy Ukraine situation
they did him so dirty…
Ksi deep down knows he’s not a great boxer. He’s just trying to prove he’s the best influencer boxer and then he’s retiring
i just know this yt account will be getting bare views from this video
Yeah, I was wondering why I got it recommended to me, I knew someone was gonna say something
He doesn't need to
I hope people know he’s not aiming to fight any real boxers but if he wanted too he could.
They saying yu ass jj
bro i understand like he needs to go the other way and push swarms into a corner but like when you step into a ring or step on to the pitch you forget a lot of what you learned most pro boxers have been boxing since they were younger than 13 and they go pro at like 20 that’s 10 years of practice while jj has only been boxing for about 3-4 years and he’s still good for the amount of time he has had
It’s not that deep but I posted this same shit hours before you and no one saw it. 👀
Good vid ngl
Deji is a better boxer than Jj. All that Jj has is his size and hardwork.
Saw this! Made some good comments regarding his style!
Yeah lol he's shit. I have seen people at my boxing academy. NOT me but others for sure and they'd absolutely demolish him and I'm from India and we don't really fund shit like boxing
Jj needs to fight a good boxer to actually showcase his skill, I felt like he genuinely improved since the Logan paul fight but due to his shit opponents we didn’t really see much of his skill. Sadly it’s unlikely that danis is going to be any better
I miss the days jj would take fights that he wasn’t sure he was going to win (like weller and Logan)
Bruh YouTube also trying to get Clickbait Views LMAO
All I'm saying is one of these days he's gonna get clocked by a counter doing that overhand spam if he doesn't evolve his boxing.
I don’t think comparing YouTubers to good experienced boxers isn’t the best comparison But if ksi was a actual professional and actually fought good experienced boxers Then we’ll see if he’s on that leveled to be compared to actual good boxers
I’ve had the same thoughts myself when i 1st saw it would really love to know jj’s thoughts.
Probably nothing, why should he care what a YouTube video says about his boxing skill, doesn't he train with proper fitness trainers, a proper boxing coach, chef for meals plans. There you go, I don't think he should even consider it, knowing how everyone here basically tells him how "shit" he is how he "windmills all the time and hasn't fought anybody (me included). And I doubt if someone on YouTube is able to review his fight footage and make criticsim and provide feedback, his training coach does the same but it ultimately comes down to KSI himself to fix his technique.
Listen after seeing the swarmz, Pineda, fight whether you all wanna accept it or not, ksi vs Alex wassabi would’ve a lot closer than ppl expected it to be. Alex is hella underrated as it is. I still think jj would’ve edged it but ppl forget Alex trained 2-3 times a day and was training a madman to seize this opportunity from insider sources. Swarmz ended up looking better than the pro boxer and swarmz confirmed on his Instagram live that’d he’d never put on a boxing glove prior to the announcement that’d he’d replace Alex.
Everyone seems to forget that he didn’t spend his whole life boxing so when he says hes a “god at boxing” he means for someone who has been boxing as long as he has he’s better than alot of others at his level.
https://youtu.be/q8fqRsTIS1c here’s the link of vid
I’m sure he’s watched it tbf
Finally this youtuber is getting the recognition he deserves
I mean it’s obvious 💀
This reactions are just gonna fuel JJ even more up and I’m confident in JJ his boxing skills and he is good enough for sure. You lot are just on here running your mouths, while you don’t even have the guts to jump in the ring yourself and instead stay behind your little screen and talk shit and eat shit. Get a fucking life this KSI Reddit is becoming a let’s critic everything JJ does in his life page. Like come on man if you don’t like him get outta here and if you do like him let’s bring this Reddit back as it was back in the day.
JJ was just trying to throw a punch because swamps was trying to run out of the ring the whole time
This video could actually help him. I understand his mentality but at the same time he looks a bit deluded which could end up in a really bad way.
Could be better
He's probably not gonna care
I don’t care, use the misfits boxing subreddit
he should react
he simply doesn't give a flying fuck
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How so?
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Anyone with a fighting background can tell, this isn’t a slight against JJ. He has the determination, the sheer willpower and the strength to win, but his technique is bad. Just compare JJ and Gib, both started out very unfit. Look at them now, Gib’s fight against Mcbroom showcased great technique and ring generalship. He cut the ring off and kept composure after getting knocked down. Now we look at JJ’s previous fights, he was chasing Swarmz and Pineda instead of the cutting off the ring. And after getting tagged he was swinging for the fences. I say again, this isn’t a slight against him. But his technique speaks for itself, his admirable traits are all from his hard work and determination.
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Nah that’s nonsense, unless you’re an incredible fighter, what you see in the ring is what you get. That’s when the body relies on instinct and muscle memory
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Oh 100%, im not saying he’s not improving, it’s just his growth is incredibly slow
He isn’t a good boxer or a singer… I only watch him for his humor in the sidemen videos.
What's gonna happen is , he'll play clips of it in his video and act like he's laughing at the analysis and that he's a "the nightmare" and start acting like he's the shit and if ur reading this jj please be real and stop manipulating your 10yo kids
And he’s gunna say he’s actually on another level since that fight but he can’t show it because he doesn’t want Dannis to see
I'm already down voted the riding is crazzyy!!
“Nah fam I’m not reacting to this, I’m not giving him views ahahahahaha, alright let’s see what this is talking about.”
Hard to argue the truth.