By - csiqueiros15
SOOBIN (TXT) mentioned that Beomgyu will often drop honorifics when they’re in private.
I'm not sure about what language formality level they use, but Seonghwa ('98) from Ateez shared that 99liners don't use honorifics like hyung towards him in private. He said he knows they respect him and that's enough for him. They still call him that during broadcast/publicly etc though.
These are the random facts I want to know haha thank you for sharing!
Aww this is sweet. They have a close enough relationship to speak without formality on a personal level, but they show respect for him publicly/professionally
They respect him in speech, then bully him relentlessly. Poor Seonghwa.
Seventeen calls each other Hyung, but doesn't use many honorifics beyond that. I was watching a Form of Therapy reaction and PD noticed it and mentioned (as a Korean speaker) that's its actually really rare for that to happen among just regular friends (that aren't one year above/below you). It's something typically reserved for family or your best BEST friends apparently? PD was actually pretty surprised by it and they aren't surprised by much.
Occasionally in Gose when there's a chaotic moment (in other words, when Jeonghan is caught cheating again) they don't even use 'hyung' anymore. They're so tired of his antics that they just go by his full name. Cracks me up every time it happens but it also shows how comfortable they really are with each other
*YOON JEONGHAN WHY DO YOU ALWAYS CHEAT* lolol
if i remember correctly, in their knowing bros ep (homerun era), most of the members call scoups (the oldest and the leader) by his full name as a joke lmao
Thanks for sharing! :)
Depends really on the people itself. Within the NCT units, banmal is common amongst each other, but across units, some members would use formal language to older members they’re not so close with. An example would be Jisung with any of the 127 hyungs, as opposed to say Haechan using banmal to those same people, and Jisung using banmal to his hyungs in Dream. It’s really interesting to observe the levels of speech they all use. And when they’re in front of a camera, they all do honorifics but there’s always little slip ups into banmal.
Thanks so much for the comment! I can only imagine how difficult it would be to track who uses honorifics/banmal with each other in a group so big haha. That's cool to know though :)
Agree that They also mix it up! I always hear Haechan saying Taeil hyung on a normal basis but when they're joking around he would say Moon Taeil 😂
Oh dang that’s interesting. I noticed they always say “hyung” to each other on camera and in videos so I was wondering where you found out that they usually drop the honorifics off camera haha
Well for the informal V-lives, when they’re addressing or answering each other, sometimes you can pick it up. They’ll never drop the “hyung,” it’s too ingrained in them, but it’s their speech patterns that change. Less words ending with “-yo” and “-nida.”
ITZY, TWICE, (G)I-DLE, Fromis, LOONA, woo!ah!, NCT 127 (i think) & SEVENTEEN speak to each other in banmal (you should know even if younger members are close enough with older members to speak informally/banmal, the unnie/hyung suffix is still mandatory).
IZONE, STAYC, IVE & Red Velvet members didn’t break that comfort level, so younger members speak in jondaetmal (formal) to their elder members
aespa is a weird case. Ningning (02) speaks to Winter (01), Karina (00) & Giselle (00) formally. Winter is a fast 01, who choses to identify as an 01 despite sharing some classes with Karina & 00 liners. but she still calls 00 line unnie. there was a point where she didn’t, but i assume she wasn’t comfortable, so she resorted back to calling them unnies - but they still speak informally to each other.
Thanks for the details on so many groups! I wasn't sure if the hyung/unnie suffix was mandatory because I recall nu'est members leaving it out sometimes when addressing the oldest member Aron. But it's good to know that it's generally required :)
yeah 4/5 members of NU’EST are 95 liners. so they’re same aged friends, they don’t need to add hyung to each other’s names. they’re on the same level in terms of hierarchy; and they speak informally to each other automatically.
assuming they speak informally to the eldest member who’s a 93 liner, they still need to add hyung to his name.
Yes, I know there's only one older member. I was specifically talking about when the 95 liners speak to the oldest member Aron. On camera they include hyung, but they've mentioned that they don't always off camera. I suspect him being American plays a role in that though.
Now im super curious about stray kids
They've mentioned that they will drop honorifics for everyone except Chan in private. With Chan, it just feels wrong to them to not call him hyung.
Thank you fellow stay!
If they want to be cheeky to Chan they yell at him in English instead. [Seungmin is particularly obnoxious about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnastj5hWpU). 😂
TheBoyz has (from what i've observed) allowed younger members to use banmal to their older members (but they must still refer to older members by "hyung"). Some members might still mix in some jondaemal too but it's up to them / context of the situation.
Some differences might include Kevin and Jacob. They're both from Canada and so often speak English to each other. You almost never hear Kevin call Jacob "hyung" unless it's on purpose (like in one of their variety show contents).
Also, Juyeon is an early 98 liner (born 15 Jan) which means that he's technically the same age as those born in 97 according to the lunar calender. However, in these situations, one can choose to forego this system and follow the Korean one which says that all who are born in the same year are the same age. Juyeon chose the later and so despite only being 2 months younger than Hyunjae, he calls Hyunjae "hyung" and the rest of the 98 line (Kevin, Q, New) don't call Juyeon "hyung".
Thanks for the detailed comment! I’ll be sure to check out more of the boyz :)
Eric LIVES for speaking informally to his hyungs, especially Hyunjae and Sangyeon. That boy would be in trouble if they weren't so accepting of it.
With Cravity, on broadcasts and the like, they usually use formal speech and honorifics but it seems like they're pretty casual about it overall! Sometimes the younger members will address the older members without honorifics (although sometimes they're just slips) but they usually just take it in stride, especially if they're all just joking around/having fun! There's a running gag-type situation between Hyeongjun (Nov '02) and Taeyoung (Jan '03) where sometimes Taeyoung won't address Hyeongjun as a hyung because they're so close in age!
Thanks for the info :) I don't know much about Cravity, but I'll check them out!
AOA call each other by names, and they tend to speak informally across all members. They still used unnie but most of the time it’s just first names
BTS switches back and forth depending on what they’re doing and where they are. They’ll usually speak formally to one another in formal professional settings (ex. an interview) and use a mixture elsewhere (ex. concerts and variety shows.)
For example: when they’re doing formal ments during concerts, they usually speak formally to one another, but they might talk casually when the ments are done. If they’re in a reality show, they might talk casually for a bit then switch to formal speech when making a request or giving criticism, so as to keep the tone respectful. Likewise, they usually use “hyung” when talking together but “-ssi” (formal honorific, roughly analogous to “mr”) during interviews.
Although it’s not quite the same thing, it’s similar to how English speakers will generally be more polite when doing something that could theoretically offend the listener. Similarly, it’s a bit rude to talk to your friends very casually in a professional setting and/or if there’s a third party around to whom you’re meant to be respectful.
My understanding is that this is just the normal way people speak, so it’s almost certainly true for multiple groups but I’m not a native or fluent speaker and don’t want to speak on nuances I don’t understand.
Jungkook from BTS has mentioned he likes to speak formally because it makes things criticism feel less harsh. (Although he doesn’t actually do this all the time.) Baekhyun from EXO has a tendency to drop into extremely formally language if he’s offended someone by being overly silly. (In a somewhat jokey way.)
Anyway, that’s a huge wall of text but I hope it’s helpful and/or interesting!
Thanks for the detailed comment! :)
1. BTS uses honorifics. One time, they received a ‘congratulations I’m proud of you’ncall from Bang Si Hyuk who told them they could speak casually with him, for that call…..
2. Tomorrow x Together, Beomgyu and Taehyun use honorifics at work but “they are not friends” on Kakao talk. The group often makes jokes about dropping honorifics or calling Yeonjun, the eldest, “noona” when his hair is long and the color of cotton candy. Yeongun said being called noona was better than dropping honorifics completely….l
3. Enhypen uses honorifics….l
4. P1Harmony mostly uses honorifics- but I haven’t listened closely to everyone to be sure. The youngest two, 2005 guys definitely use honorifics. I’m just not sure about Intak. He’s so casual he might not and Keeho or Jiung might not care. In P1Harmony as with BTS, I sense a distinction with the eldest member. They seem to command a great deal of respect and everyone adds the hyung.
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Thanks for the info on these groups! :)