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#Mike drop Who's Mike?


lgrey4252

Lol she’s such an intellectual


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GoethenStrasse0309

I do believe people who are genuinely chronically ill. However when ppl go to the lengths that a lot of the munchies do that are discussed here is where I draw the line. Using a wheelchair when you’re told it’s much better for your overall being to walk whenever possible. Stretching the truth to a new physician so as to get him/her to give you medical accessories you don’t need. Taking up bed space in a hospital is drop dead wrong when there’s truly sick people waiting in the halls while you’re well enough to take selfies & videos of you hospital room, & / or explain your next unreal health crisis, etc. Not to mention it’s really good sick how all munchies have worn out the word advocate. I do support those who genuinely have chronic illness. You know, the people who quietly go about their day, take care of their medical needs without complaints & don’t claim how oppressed they are? Your every little ache & pain, hospital stay, or arrival of new medical equipment doesn’t necessarily need to be plastered all over the f*cking internet. However making a fool of oneself seems to be something these munchies are good at!! SMH


Younicron

“During this painful time” My god she’s over dramatic.


carcosa1989

Her getting this upset by it is a tell that’s all I’m saying


sonawtdown

Her reliance on the authority of “a doctor” suggests faith in medical expertise contradicted by the entirety of the rest of her narrative. It’s problematic to switch sides so readily when the motivation is so clearly immediate gratification (validation of her viewpoint).


Fleur-duMal

The Daily Mail is trashy but she didn't even bother to read the article. It didn't say 'everyone in the spoonie community'. Overreacting and misrepresenting an article about overreacting and misrepresenting doesn't help.


ThillyGooths

Who is Mike Drop? Is that *Doctor* Mike Drop?


turner_strait

Sounds like a drag king name Welcome to the stage: MIKE DROP!!


ThillyGooths

LOL when I saw your unedited comment originally I was gonna ask if this was a Tracy Martell and Katya reference 😁


CoolBlanchDoriteaux

Ha I thought of them too, did an uhhhnn binge recently


turner_strait

I mean kinda? I never thought it was a reference to them specifically, I just thought it was a widely known drag in-joke lol


ThillyGooths

It is I’m sure, I just associated it with Trixie and Katya because they say it a ton on UNHhhh and I’ve been binging that lately.


AshleysMirena

Nah Bethany, y’all don’t need to post more.


ThillyGooths

Dude I am dying at your username.


snailicide

Does anyone one know who the surgeon on TikTok that made the mike drop is? What kind of procedures does he do? Any munchie classics like MALS or CCI? Feeding tubez?


Confident-Choice4641

I wonder if his name is Mike 😂


haysahc

I'd love to know!


Basicwanderer

Hi guys I’m new to this sub. Can anyone explain what a spoonie is?


poison_snacc

This is what google is for


PuffyRainbowCloud

I think you’ll be good if you Google spoon theory.


sterexx

> we need to post more the inevitable conclusion, regardless of situation


AnniaT

Why so pressed? Because the shoe fits?


snailicide

Of course.


OwnEntertainmentX

If you don't like it, stop talking about it. Geez.


ProleLump

The Daily Mail exists only to validate the hatred and fear it’s readership thrive on. It’s pretty much porn fuel for their hate boners. I won’t click in any of their drivel, but I think Bethany probably gets a sort of pass on this one.


mrs_normcore

Honestly, rising to the Daily Mail is like crying at a playground bully that you're going to dibber dobber on them to the school principal. No pass.


ProleLump

Yep. The only way is to pretend that shitrag doesn’t exist. No good comes of engaging with it.


softshellcrab69

Back? Clapped. Mike? Dropped. Illness? Psychogenic.


maraney

Did Mike get hurt when they dropped him?


AshleysMirena

Dropping Mike caused him to suffer his 27th concussion. After consulting with his followers on instagram, he decided to go to the ER. He will go live as soon as he gets a bed. /s


SquigSnuggler

Omg your username 😂😂😂😂😂 Lowkey upvote 🤨😆


maraney

Omg! Omg! Omg! We’ve met an actual real life celebrity!! I’ve heard more about Ashley’s IUD than Will and Chris’s #slapgate.


softshellcrab69

His head fell off :(


GoethenStrasse0309

Is he related to Jessi?? ( who has been sooo silent as of late!!! )


glittergirl349

did he get a spinal fusion..???/s


noneofthismatters666

Does anyone know if Mike is ok?


khronicallykrunked

Worst case of dropping they've ever seen.


pegmatitic

He’s got dropsy


noneofthismatters666

Dropped Mike gofundme.


khronicallykrunked

Team is scrambling.


glittergirl349

Team had to call a bigger hospital for the patient, according to Mike they only do that if you’re truly very ill, the sickest to walk.i mean roll. I mean, lay on portable gurney’s. Mike was dropped out of the back of a home made ambulance. Whaaaambulance. I heard his head fell off during the drop.


yeahokayyyyyy

R.I.P. Mike


Switchbladekitten

🙏🏻


b1tching

Honestly the only offensive part of the article imo was the randomly bringing up how hysteria was used as an excuse for sick women for hundreds of years and bringing up women and psychiatric treatment in the 1900s. It just shows there is a legitimate problem that historically women haven’t been listened to medically and comparing it to people being ott or munchies is such a strange thing to do and to bring up. They didn’t need to bring it up at all and it’s only a single paragraph I believe which is why it’s so strange to me.


Bellalea

In the early days women’s problems were all thought to be related to the uterus ,or the Latin word “hyster” , where it was believed the uterus traveled through the body and would rise to the throat causing “global hysteria.” This is where the word histrionic comes from. So apparently wandering lady bits are the source of all women’s problems. Mike dropped. Mary wandered.


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Frankly the only thing that really is bothersome in the article is that they make it seems like the fact that medical professionals often ignores or dismisses pain/symptoms is just because they want attention and want to be diagnosed with whatever illnesses. And that’s true sometimes, but they’re misleading people about that because it’s actually a big issue for many disabled/chronically ill people.


sugaredviolence

“Never made it past the publisher”. Unfortunately, that’s how the free press works, dork. Journalists can write any article they want about whatever they deem to be newsworthy. It’s called freedom of the press. And I’m sure Bethany LOVES being able to yell into the void of Insta about her boring issues, right? Ya freedom of speech, you have a platform to speak from bc of that freedom. So zip it. Just bc you don’t LIKE an article doesn’t mean it’s “wrong” or shouldn’t be published. 😂


throwawayacct1962

Fuck daily mail. The original commonsense article was wonderful! Daily mail copy and pasted it so badly they legitimized munchies claims of bullying and gaslighting.


Storm_Chaser_Nita

The article wasn't about "the chronic illness community" or "disabled people." It was specifically about MUNCHIES, so if Bethany feels called out by it, she needs to take a good long look at herself.


Zharenya

That requires more self awareness than she has.


Storm_Chaser_Nita

True.


Switchbladekitten

Exactly


FactEducational3731

Mike Drop


detectivenotfromhere

“I couldn’t resist..” We know.


Revolutionary_Can879

I saw a post that I thought was stupid about the “spoon theory.” I understand how it’s a good way for people with chronic illness to get the point across; however, the infographic I saw specifically said “normal people have an unlimited amount of spoons,” which is just blatantly untrue. Everyone has their limits, someone with chronic illness may have less energy than others but it just seemed very flippant and self-pitying to imply that not having a chronic illness means you essentially have “unlimited” energy to be able to do tasks and deal with things.


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TinyLittleHamster

Wow, if "normal people have an unlimited amount of spoons," then what do they tell new mothers who are exhausted and can't do much else beyond taking care of their baby, or single parents working multiple jobs to keep food on the table and can't keep up with housework, or people such as nurses and resident doctors pulling extremely long demanding shifts who have to cancel social plans because they need to spend their days off resting? No wonder "special spoonie" is used so condescendingly, they want people to feel empathy for them, but have no empathy for anyone else


snailicide

“The spoon theory” It is not a good way to get a point across . It was said off the cuff by some author to her friend at dinner to explain lupus , and used what was in front of them(spoons) to illustrate a concept . and these idiots took it and ran with it. the author was recounting an anecdote ,, I refuse to believe someone would sit down to ponder a totally groundbreaking theory.. . And came up with THAT. It doesn’t make any sense . I much better ‘theory’ would be to use a sense-making relatable metaphor like “a rechargeable battery”. A chronically Ill person would have more power consumption to do the same tasks as a ‘normal’ person, (a ‘normie’ would have more efficient battery usage) .,,therefore the CI person needs to recharge more .


Revolutionary_Can879

Definitely, and the idea of a battery accounts for the fact that everyone runs out of energy eventually.


snailicide

Batteries just doesn’t have the same ring to it. Plus, the fact that everyone has a ‘battery that drains ‘ doesn’t make them feel special enough. Also lacks the curiosity attention points from ppl who are like wtf is a spoonie which turns into a great opportunity to talk about their totally rare illnesses.


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snailicide

Lol exactly


Zharenya

I guess we’re all spoonies then! You’re tired today? SPOONIE Exhausted from work? SPOONIE Sore and moving slow? SPOONIE A spoon for you, a spoon for you, and oh, a spoon for you too! Oh hold on, I’m out of spoons.


kat_Folland

>normal people have an unlimited amount of spoons, Yeah, people don't ever have tired days, or catch a cold or get hungover (lol). Nope, if you don't have CI you never have a down moment. 🙄


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phdyle

‘During this painful time’. Hold up. There is some other time we were unaware or?


Cthulhu779842

Okay, Mrs Allergic To Walking


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It's this sort of thing that just PROVES the article right. If you're so so so desperate to prove that you're not a faker then you would make a massive deal about an article like this ..trying to (and failing in the process) to prove that you're not like the people it refers to. When you're this desperate not to be something....you over compensate the other way.... If someone genuinely has a CI... As if they're going to be bothered by a Daily Mail article about annoying OTT spoonies. If you're legitimately chronically ill, you'd not be at all worried about desperately trying to prove you're not faking it..... Bethany's repeated posts about this shows she's just like the people in the article....


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You’re right about the fact that they’re overly pressed about that article and that’s too much, especially for something so ridiculous. But I would understand why a chronically I’ll/disabled people would be bothered by that. When you’re blatantly ignored or gaslighted by doctors 80% of the time because you’re chronically ill/disabled that would be a bit bothersome. The original article was great, then daily Maily did a dumb version that make it seems like basically all ill people that feel like their doctors are not helping them are just attention seekers that want their diagnosis. If they’re genuinely ill the bothersome thing is not that they would feel accused of being fakers, more likely the fact that the article is just dismissing the struggle to find decent medical care, and so much suffering basically.


SooieSideUp

🏆 Yep. Take my pseudo award.


nurse_kanye

i once cared for a patient admitted to psychiatry for acute psychosis. she had very significant religious delusions and believed jesus and god were talking to her all the time. she said she had proof that she was the last “chosen one” who’s soul would go to heaven. she had notebooks upon notebooks scribbled with non sensical religious ramblings. when challenged by nursing staff (myself included) she would say “you don’t have to believe me but *this is my truth*.” just because you use the phrase “my truth” doesn’t mean that anything you say is accurate. i can come on the internet and say that my truth is that i’m a rapper who earns millions and previously married kim kardashian- that doesn’t mean it’s true.


SquigSnuggler

⬆️ THIS


snailicide

I feel like the phrase “my truth” is kind of a red flag someone is lying. Maybe not a few yrs ago , during all the MeTo stuff, or someone recounting a memory from the distant past…,but definitely now it’s a tell. Why not just say “the truth” .


really_tall_horses

That patient seems surprisingly self-aware for experiencing psychosis.


nurse_kanye

do you have experience working in acute psychiatric units? she was a well spoken and well educated individual with a masters degree, which made her present well. a quick 10 mins with her it was clear to see she was completely lacking insight. psychotic patients aren’t always out of control or in freak out mode. i’ve had plenty of patients with delusions who have maintained a level head and told us, “no. you’re wrong, i’m not psychotic, i’m fine” but then 10 mins later are talking about whatever their delusions are centred around (big pharma, technology, god, the devil, facebook, being infected by a microchip, etc). often times we have to get legal paperwork stating we can give them antipsychotic medications without their consent if they refuse, which a lot of patients do.


lunitapapita

Loving these muchies treating a Daily Mail article like it’s the god damn New York Times.


Rowlings_Army

Right? And the Daily Mail didn’t even write the article. They summarized an article written by Suzy Weiss on the Common Sense sub stack.


BellasNeckBrace

It’s like being bothered by a societal-based Family Guy joke lol.


RaccoonRelay

It has “not ALL men” vibes


Frank_Lawless

Bethany is giddy that a doctor is publicly defending her personally (in her mind) from the haters who call out her faking


glittergirl349

right, like is this validation to make faking illnesses feel stronger or


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Mushroom_Cat_4509

I think I missed that there were two articles. This explains a lot.


fallen_snowflake1234

I’ve seen genuinely ill people upset over it. It was a poor article that just stole entire paragraphs from another article and painted the whole of the CI community in a bad light.


Different-Food1669

I personally loved the original article which was posted by CommonSense. I found it very fair and truthful. The daily mail took the article and quoted parts of it, which was likely a disservice. The article has gotten more attention via daily mail but if you get a chance to read the original article, I would recommend it.


Holiday_Albatross917

honestly no not really. most i see upset about this didn’t read the part where it said not everyone is a faker, or are a a munchie themselves.


Ok_Remote3175

It wasn't great, tbh. It painted a normally harmless community as a group that only ever harms its members. I think it may have been a better article if it weren't written by Daily Mail, but it is what it is.


ihopeurwholelifesux

the Daily Mail article reworded a way better/more insightful article from a different journal (common sense news) that included a couple girls’ personal experience realizing they were identifying too much with being sick/feeling like they had to exaggerate/competing with others. I’ve seen all sorts of people annoyed (though not to the extent of the subjects) about the DM one cause it had some misinfo abt illnesses and did a bad job explaining the actual problem, but only munchies bothered by the original one. edit - https://www.commonsense.news/p/hurts-so-good


Mattieisinnocent

It was by commonsense.news and it’s called „hurts so good” i believe


ihopeurwholelifesux

yes that’s it! thank u


Mattieisinnocent

Oh! Oh! I read that one! Lemme find it


Character_Recover809

I agree, the only people I see shrieking about the article are highly suspicious/most likely munchies. There is not a single truly sick or disabled person anywhere in any of my contacts that had any problem with the *original* article. And the only issue they've had with the Daily Fail version was their failure to differentiate between actual chronic illness and munchies. The community is quite aware of the difference, but the way it reads, people outside of the chronic illness community may not recognize the difference clearly enough.


kat_Folland

The article didn't say _all_ spoonies are faking, but of course people who fake are taking it personally.


Own_Negotiation6241

Who’s Mike?


glittergirl349

My dad.


jonog75

This idea of creating "community" out of a supposed illness is the ultimate catch-22.


Mutantfoxyone

The ultimate catch 22 is catch 22- an airman must be crazy to go on more missions, but being crazy makes them unfit to fly!


glittergirl349

what?


jonog75

I'm not gonna touch that user name with a 10 foot stethoscope.


kat_Folland

I'm not sure what you mean.


xthefabledfox

I don’t think the article said ALL “spoonies” are faking it. I thought it was just about the MBI culture and how it’s becoming a popular trend. Which is all true. I need to go back and reread it now lol


Grave_Girl

That was absolutely the impression I got as well. But of course the fakers are taking it this way. It's the hit dog that barks.


xthefabledfox

Also side note the word spoonie makes me *gag*


BellasNeckBrace

Particularly because that theory isn’t even only applicable to just people with illnesses. Everyone has finite energy to allocate to things. Therefore everyone is technically a “spoonie” 🙄


averagevegetable-

Bro it took me 5 mins to figure out who tf "mike" is xD


noneofthismatters666

These reads like someone defending scientology.


accountrunbymymum

Why are we dropping Mike?


pumpernickelotter

Mike didn’t consent to being dropped today, smh my head


glittergirl349

his head fell off!


pumpernickelotter

Call Elliot to make a makeshift ambulance stat!!!!! Call the ombudsman!!!! CSF is leaking into all of the surrounding veins and he certainly needs a life saving surgery now!!!


GetRightNYC

Mike drop. Lol. It's kinda funny how all the fakers are outing themselves by acknowledging the article is about them. Figure someone who isn't faking wouldn't even care about it. Damn these people calling us out!


glittergirl349

my thoughts exactly


BellasNeckBrace

It’s only the fakers talking about it because the people with real problems saw the article (and the parent article it was stolen from) for what it was. It didn’t say everyone is faking. It said some people fake. The only people who could possibly be triggered by that sentiment are the people who know they’re guilty of it. Just because people are loud on social media doesn’t mean they make up the majority. The overwhelming majority of chronic illness suffers and people with disabilities probably read that article and said “Yep, that sucks because these fakers make my life harder.”


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I think you missed something in the article that would bother many chronically ill/disabled people. Bother, not trigger or start a frenzy. But frankly what would be hurtful for them in this article is not the fact that they would feel like called fakers (even if it’s a trend in social media for hateful people now to call out genuinely disabled people lol), I don’t think they would care. If something it would be just that they did this article so badly that they basically make it seems like if doctors don’t listen to chronically ill/disabled people is because these people are attention seekers that want their diagnosis. And that’s like dismissing one of the main issue of most of them. So if it’s hurtful it’s just because the wrong image they’re picturing basically mislead people about so much suffering.


GetRightNYC

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for wording it much better.


bellersaurus

The article (parent at least, I don’t read Murdoch media) was also mostly about the competitiveness of the community? From memory I don’t think they said anyone was faking, just that they recovered when they lived in the world outside of their illness. I don’t see how that’s a harmful rhetoric.