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auggydogg

wtf is up with all this tiktok stuff - cancer patients cannot readily make a video - with all the chemo side effects and throwing up and facing an actual possible death because unlike the modern science that they are “suffering from here” you can’t just put a lot of tubes in a cancer patient and cure anything


SoupHasSwag

and most cancer patients have feeding tubes due to chemo. i have cancer and i do post on tiktok and i was fortunate enough to escape being tubbed before i got my nausea meds somewhat managed, other than after my surgeries, i know several patients who will forever be tube dependent due to their treatment.


SoupHasSwag

i just realized how messy this reply is. im currently fighting a wicked anemia headache


auggydogg

*sewn


auggydogg

yes, my mother had cancer as well and had half of her neck cut out and her tongue cut in half and sound to the back of her throat. I completely understand the reason somebody with cancer would have it


Sufficient_Dance9760

I’ll take “things no one said to you” for 500


randomomnsuburbia

Meanwhile all of the people who realize feeding tubes give them their lives back.... Seriously. Have some fucking perspective.


Sussybaka-3

I mean she shouldn’t put down other people for having cancer and say hers is worse But the same is for cancer patients We all suffer help those that are suffering stop comparing your illnesses like kindergarteners “Mine is worse than yours” “No, mine is”


Boneal171

So somehow having to be tube dependent for the rest of their life is worse than having cancer. A disease that kill you. Fuck off.


ZeroHrsprs

Why can't 2 things be shitty but the one thing still be shittier? Like surely they know the damn difference, or the point of that being said (not that anyone likely did say it, but who knows). Try harder, fam. So much drama.


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VerbalVeggie

Tell me you’ve never held the hand of someone who is dying, painfully, from an incurable cancer that has ravaged their body because cancer is so good about spreading all the while you just have a couple of tubes in your body without telling me….. Edit to add: that is not a personal experience, but many of our patients have had to watch their loved ones waste away to basically nothing because of cancer I’m not a big fan of all the munchies using cancer as their illness level cap because it can be brutal even when the outcome is good.


3saltlick3

lets be real, the feeding tube could be considered worse than getting cancer, because you dont ever ask for cancer, you just get it, but this person probably pushed for themselves to get a feeding tube, which is extremely painful and clunky. so ye, im sure forcing doctors to do something super invasive is a bit worse than the unhappiness and feeling of unfair-ness that comes with getting shitty cards dealt to you. (satire)


7xx7rigormortis7xx7

Wow. Comparing a feeding tube to the possibility of dying from cancer? 🙃


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Towerofterrorr

I’m so sorry for the loss of your father. I was 17 when my mom died and I miss her every day. I know the pain you feel and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I also know the pain my mother felt and watching her become helpless, drugged up so much she was sleeping most of the time and incoherent, and then passing away looking like a bag of bones. These people want to be sick but if they truly experienced what cancer patients go through maybe they would shut the fuck up and stop playing sick for attention.


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Towerofterrorr

Thanks a bunch, my mother was in a hospice home for about 2 days before saying over and over “I want to go home”. Once we brought her home she passed a day later. The people in the hospice house were so incredible and supportive.


EMSthunder

I’m glad y’all’s experience with hospice was a good one. That’s what they aim for.


quiet__is__violent

I’m really sorry about your mother😞, and yes it’s absolutely insane to actually want to be sick, and want to “suffer” when they clearly want what *they* are doing to themselves.


Towerofterrorr

Thanks for that and yes it is very insane to put yourself through unnecessary medical procedures for attention and internet clout when people are actually suffering much much worse in real life.


Chronically_Quirky

I'm so very sorry for your mother's passing. It really boils my piss when they make these kind of shitty comparisons especially to cancer. God forbid it touches their lives either directly or indirectly.


Towerofterrorr

The people who do this kind of shit have probably never experienced any kid of significant loss in their lives at least not through a form of medical diseases / issues. I don’t really understand why it’s become a trend to have terrible health issues. If it’s about attention why not just make up something else interesting about yourself instead of pretending to be sick for likes.


culinarytiger

KIM THERES PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING vibes x1000000 literally


intothefire2005

At least Kim can read the room a bit better than our subjects lmao


FiliaNox

I get that ‘at least it’s not cancer’ is insensitive and dismissive, but boo boo please, you making this post is just perpetuating the ‘suffering Olympics’ shit. You’re just doing the same thing you’re complaining about. You can have an illness without trying to one up other people.


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Formal_Condition_513

I'm so sorry <3


goawayelephant

I'll never understand why people decide to play this comparison game, just don't do it. But honestly, I don't think anyone is out there saying being feeding tube fed for life is a best case scenario (albeit for many cancer patients.... it would be if it meant they were surviving.). IMO most lay people mean well in whatever their statements are, even if it comes across as insensitive (and I recognize that "at least its not cancer" can like any other variety of guilt tripping, if expressed in such a manner) and many don't know what to say or think about someone having a feeding tube, so they're def not congratulating people for having them (ironically the spoonie/munch/online CI community often takes a much more celebratory attitude towards medical devices than anyone else does.) Making something like this is just another way of showing them off and ends up being far more insensitive than the "at least its not cancer thing" would ever be.


acrensh

For life? Sounds like she WANTS it for life. No attempt to get off


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acrensh

This. I work with cancer patients and it’s infuriating. The parents that lose their kid at 5 sure would love to have their kid and be tube dependent.


theficklemermaid

I get that it was a crappy statement, if someone actually said that to them. But you could answer that other people having it worse doesn’t mean you’re not still struggling, don’t try to compete with cancer!


NotEnuffCowBell

They should head over to the Cancer forum and tell the parents of kids with Glioblastoma this


SkywardHope

Or pancreatic cancer sufferers. Absolutely brutal disease.


Potatoheadheadhead

Logan is SO SO sick, don’t ever suggest that cancer is easier than all of their illnesses. I thought y’all would be convinced by now-their feeding tubes are exposed daily just to show you how sick they really are!


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bananamonkey29

fyi, ur being downvoted for blogging. not because people are that rude lmao


ZeroAntagonist

Uhhh...what is up with that song? "How is the best case scenario Joe Biden?" LOL. What the hell...


shadowseventeen

It is a Bo Burnham song, he makes fun of everyone and anything 😂


byleth333

the fact they felt the need to record this and post it is baffling. beyond fucked up.


dragonoftimenspace

It's a trend on tiktok at the moment so probably just copying everyone else ngl


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Potatoheadheadhead

Munchie killer? Is that the one that Jaq had?


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Unfortunately,yes


Ambitious-Ad5996

Ugh. Also for those that survive cancer it’s not a simple walk in the park afterwards. Gah, this makes me irrationally angry


rat-simp

tbf saying "at least you don't have x" or saying "other people have it worse" is a shit thing to say to anyone


CatTaint

That’s what I was thinking. This person’s regular munching and grifting antics aside, I interpreted this to be a video about the shitty dismissive comments people tend to make when a person is going through something difficult, not that the subject was the one making the comparison. “At least you don’t have x” and “other people have it worse” are not helpful things to say to anyone.


glittergirl349

100% agree. It’s hurtful and degrading, because what feels small to one person might feel huge to another. With all of that being said, still doesn’t justify a cancer comparison


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glittergirl349

PREACH


Alex2679

What does Joe Biden have to do with it?


itsvickeh

It’s a TikTok trend. You use the audio as a guideline.


bellee98

This isn’t a comparison video..


Grown-Ass-Weeb

I’m pretty sure most cancer patients would gladly take feeding tubes for life over long term pain and permanent side effects/damage due to cancer.


glittergirl349

right


Maddzilla2793

I mean many of them in fact have tubes 🙆‍♀️🥲


2xsurvivorBMT

Exactly this.


throwawayacct1962

This is so rude and inappropriate. It's literally comparing illnesses and trying to make a competition out of who has it worse. Not to mention being tube feed dependant for life isn't necessarily in itself some life ruining thing. Annoying to have to accommodate in your life always? Sure. But it doesn't even mean you have any symptoms. You could live a completely normal with very few limitations and just get your food in a different way.


glittergirl349

Right being tube fed…”for life” doesn’t make you terminal, either.


TalkMental6275

All Munchies are part of the New Medical Olympics scenario.Their motto "Anything you can do, I can do better!" What a despicable bunch of 🐔💩's.


That-Alternative-946

Is this old? Or is it already deleted? 😬


itsvickeh

It’s on their TT, not insta. Still there


That-Alternative-946

Ah gotcha. Love how they just double down on being tone deaf and shitty after just getting called out.


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roxiegirl15

How low can you get?


glittergirl349

ok right


BellasNeckBrace

Suffering isn’t a competitive sport but if they want to play that game, nobody’s dying an agonizing, insufferable death due to feeding tube-managed gastroparesis.


throwawayacct1962

>feeding tube-managed gastroparesis. Before people come here to express people do die agonizing deaths due to gastroparesis, yes they do. But we're talking about when the disorder is successfully managed by a feeding tube. Managed means it's not killing you.


BellasNeckBrace

Yep I was careful with my choice of words. No doubt it can kill you but the whole point of tubes is to give people a “normal” life. And the overwhelming majority of people with GP who have tubes live long, healthy, productive lives. Tube feeding is just a thing they have to do to survive the same way the average person has to eat by mouth. There are also procedures that can be done to facilitate eating orally for pleasure/socialization while a person still receives nearly all of their nutrition via J-tube.


That-Alternative-946

Absolutely disgusting.


PuzzleheadedToe7

It's absolutely disgusting how many people with a chronic illness do exactly this. It's a frequent complaint and why I no longer belong to any of those forums. People will say, at least if I had cancer, I'd be taken seriously. Vile. Little kids 5 and 6 years old, have lived their entire lives with feeding tubes no one ever sees, Little backpacks that carry their supplies neatly concealed so they can be a typical kid. Then there's are munchies.


phillygeekgirl

If her audience reaction is anything like Ash's was, she'll delete the post by tomorrow.


noneofthismatters666

That's absolutely insulting and unbelievably narcissistic.


FoxcMama

I guarantee no one told her this.


Korite116

i cannot fathom how they thought that this was a good thing to say/post. how utterly clueless and self-absorbed. it’s almost sickening.