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jrod22145

It’s crazy how much more open Zandvoort looks in game vs on tv today. Probably the lack of grandstands has a lot to do with it. But it also needs rescanned too since the final corner is now banked much higher than in game.


Careless_Laugh_102

The broadcaster in this video has the grandstands turned off, they were definitely there in real life before the renovation.


jrod22145

Yah I figured that was the case. I was saying that’s part of the reason it looks a lot more open than IRL.


Valcyor

Wow, never appreciated it until now but what a tight track. Also I have never been able to drive any of the Formula cars of any generation. All I can handle are GT3, GT4, and IndyCar. Why can I drive IndyCars decently but can't even survive in Formula? I'd love to figure it out.


clearkill46

I think it has a lot to do with learning car balance. I noticed that the indycar understeers when it's off balance through turns while the F1 car oversteers. So if you want to keep control it's much more important to keep the F1 car balanced. However, if you want to be fast then balance is equally important in both cars. I really love the indycar because it's fast as hell but very forgiving (at least on road courses).


Valcyor

That might be the difference. I do much better with a tight/understeering car. I can't handle oversteer at all. Might also be why I refuse to run dirt. I'm still not very fast in an IndyCar but at least I'm consistent. Now I just need to figure out this balance thing.


clearkill46

Skip barber taught me the most about balance by far. The car has no downforce so it entirely relies on balance for grip. Run it with a pretty stiff rear ARB and it will force you to learn balance, as just coming off the throttle in a turn will cause the rear to come around.


Environmental_Arm600

Im new to this car but it seems the car balance shifts pretty dramatically throughout a stint. Oversteery from the off, but after you’ve worn tires in, the fronts lose grip and the car then becomes very understeery. This was my first f1 race, but this is how the car has behaved for me all week at zandvoort.


basedandcoolpilled

Tbh idk why you can’t either. Just gotta practice more. Obviously the only big differences are more aero and less weight transfer. Make sure your trail braking is clean as hell and don’t over rotate in high speeds trust the aero will be there. Remember more speed equals more grip. That’s the weird thing about formula cars. The more balls you have the more it works out generally. Get the aero activated


yonsan94

I’m actually the other way around. IndyCar, maybe I need to give another chance but I find to be so hard, but with Formula1 it’s about finding pace for me. Will still spin on both, but idk The W12 is so fast and nice I feel like a race car driver lol


reboot-your-computer

I’d love a rescan for this track. It looks so different in sector 1 and 3 with the reduced banking.


fr0gnutz

that was thriling! Turn 1 was nice and tight and well driven. If this were /r/simracingstewards i'd have expected you to continue for the tight space, hit the back left and people would be arguing if it was your fault for not backing off or the lead position players fault for closing the gap when he knew he was losing the position. That was well backed off and saved for the last turns. thanks for the post! fun to watch.


m3tz0

I really like the super clean UI does anyone have a link for it?


Environmental_Arm600

SDK gaming overlay


m3tz0

why must everything related to iracing be a subscription too? anyways , thanks for the info.


nonothing

JoelRealTiming is a one time purchase (but only updates for a year). I've bought it twice, still less than some subs, very customizable.


LVL-2197

Because Covid. Huge wave of new players, some were dicks about free setups/apps/etc. so people said, "Fine, is that better?" and put it behind a paywall. Others just realized people would pay for their stuff and capitalized. I love sim racing, but man, literally everything about it is overpriced for what you get. From cockpits that should retail at half their asking price, to setups that should be free.


m3tz0

I have to agree with you there mate , especially with your last remark. Indeed everything is super overpriced. The biggest example of this quite frankly is basic steering wheel and pedals. Like lets be real here. Thrustmaster and logitech are relics of a bygone era. Fanatec and other companies put out quality entry level stuff in not too terribly expensive prices. Why is it then that a G29 which is a piece of plastic , retail for 250 euros. Why is thrustmaster still charging well over 300 for their bare bones T300 package. Why do they charge 200 for the TCLM which , ok its load cell but literally everything else is a plastic piece of shit. And the prices never fall dude. Pre covid or even early covid you'd see fluctuations in prices. Now they are imovable for months. Like jesus christ wtf is going on.


LVL-2197

I've been working on upgrading my cockpit. Been using the Next Level GT Lite for ages. It's been enough. But at over $200, it's overpriced for what it is. The F-GT Lite are extremely overpriced at $330-360m, depending on branding. Literally every other cockpit on the market that would be considered an upgrade is even worse. The biggest criminal I can think of is Playseat with their Formula series seats. Anywhere between $1k to $1350 (literally $250 extra if you get Red Bull or Mercedes paint jobs) for a fairly minimalist, simply designed seat.


m3tz0

Yep i am on the lookout for upgrades too and everything is overpriced af for what it is. So for the moment they sit on my wishlist with the hope I'll get a sale notification. Its either that or i become rich enough to not give a fuck lol. T300 with default pedals it is for now. I am not mad , i do win races but i would not say no to the improvement of my imersion. We'll see.


LVL-2197

I went from G920 to CSL Elite largely through a mix of kindness and patience. My best friend ended up with an extra set of CSL Elite pedals and hooked me up. My dad upgraded his sim rig to the CSL DD and sold me his CSL Elite for a fair price. My cockpit is pretty much my last upgrade for awhile but I'm stuck building it because of price gouging. It's annoying. The hobby is expensive enough with the gouging.


m3tz0

Yep. You are lucky you have people to help you out. I don't. In fact I am the complete oposite. I want to help my dad and a friend get into the hobby. But as it is , even a g29 is out of budget. And fuel and food keep getting worse and worse. This bloody year might frankly be the year the 7 seals are broken and the riders of the apocalypse bring the armagedon to mankind. Like holly molly everything is FUCKED.


LVL-2197

I really am and I don't take it for granted. And, yes, everything is absolutely fubar.


samspot

The g29 is quality hardware, and has a reputation for lasting 10+ years. Mine has leather and metal in addition to the plastic. I am incredibly happy with this wheel and can see myself using it for a long time. It doesn’t help that we constantly hear about Fanatec wheels breaking in less than a year. I’d hate to see logitech lower the build quality to hit a lower price point.


LarryLobster69

Curious as to what your sim setup is? Logi? Fanatec? Simucube?


Environmental_Arm600

CSL DD 8nm Podium v2 formula wheel V3 pedals VR


bigmak13_

Cool!


gasmask11000

You know this track looks like it would be great with stock cars. Lots of flowing high speed sections and corners with camber. That move at 1 was so cool and I’m glad the netcode played so nicely. (Also it’s still hilarious as an American seeing the coverage do all the goofy “high banking” stuff with 18 degrees banking. Like sure, that’s a lot for a road course, especially now since tracks like Riverside and Avus and combined Monza don’t exist, but seriously do we need to do the leaning photographs? 18 degrees is considered pretty mild in the oval world.)


Hello_Hollow_Halo

Really dumb question here but how did you get that gap/interval menu at the top left? All I have is a black box that looks like it’s from the 80s and only updates position and gap to behind/in front one per lap


Environmental_Arm600

SDK gaming overlay


Hello_Hollow_Halo

Thanks!