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Springsteen Revisionism...

Did I hallucinate Howard goofing on Gary for being such a big Bruce fan a few years back? For some reason I have vivid memory of Howard giving Gary so much shit for loving Bruce, but now he's completely done a 180 and has road his nuts enough to get a show appearance.... Did I have a stroke? Or has Howie flipped on Bruce? I feel like it started when he saw the Broadway show...

cormano

Around the year 2000, Howard absolutely despised Bruce Springsteen and that's where some of that stemmed from. First, you'd need to understand the killing of Amadou Diallo. Amadou Diallo was a Guinean immigrant standing in the vestibule of his Bronx building around 1:00 am when an unmarked car with plain clothes officers stopped in front of the building. Officers claimed he matched the description of a serial rapist reported over a year prior. An officer yelled Amadou had a gun and they proceeded to fire 41 shots. Upon a search, they found no gun nor was Amadou anyone they were looking for. It's believed an officer mistook his wallet for a weapon. The officers were arrested but eventually acquitted of all charges. Amadou had committed no crime. Springsteen wrote a song about the killing titled [41 Shots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDtwcpRdMmw), later renamed to American Skin. The musician was attacked by New York police and mayor Rudy Giuliani over the track. The PBA called for a boycott of his shows and threatened to not provide security for his concerts. Bob Lucente, the president of the New York chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police, called Springsteen a “floating fag.” If there were two things Howard loved, it was the police and Rudy Giuliani. "... It's a disgusting song. It's ridiculous." Howard said. He proceeded to call him a pussy and Robin said Bruce had no right to speak about the events. "I wouldn't even go to a Bruce Springsteen concert," he continued. "He's a dickhead. He's a creep." Robin asked where are the songs for the cops who die in the line of duty. "He'll never write one. That's not popular. It's not a popular liberal cause," Howard shot back. He continued, "The Puerto Rican's and the black people are screaming all the time, [accent] 'The cops they treat us wrong.' Well, yeah. If you're misbehaving you're supposed to get beaten, you fool. It's good for you. It's good to take a beating... 41 shots? It should have been 85 shots. Make sure the guy is dead... Bruce is a piece of garbage who should really retire... He should rot in that mansion of his." Years later at Sirius, Howard brought up the controversy again while interviewing Springsteen fan and sports commentator "Mad Dog" Chris Russo. "Do you mind when Bruce gets political and talks about 57 shots?," Howard asked. Russo, Artie and Howard all agreed that they didn't like when Springsteen would get "political" with his music. [I've uploaded some of Howard's original "41 Shots" rant here.](https://vocaroo.com/1jqYfeynIIgQ) (June 12, 2000) Edit: The next day, Howard shit on Bruce again. [I've uploaded that here.](https://vocaroo.com/18i0QE6t0WkB) The following week (June 22, 2000), Howard went on another rant about Bruce, [I've also uploaded that here.](https://vocaroo.com/1622GiJQgPsr)


RemoveSwimming9588

Did the same with Trump but just the opposite!


RobbShow

We speak your name!


OutrageForSale

Holy shit! His opinion changed! YOU CANT DO THAT


HousyFootball57

His opinion didn't change. He's a complete phony and star fucker


dropingloads

Howard used to rag on him big time until he saw the Bruce Springsteen on broadway


BogardeLosey

Alleged heavy-metal loving long-haired hard-partying 'shock jock,' when he previewed tracks from Springsteen's The Rising on air: 'I like to listen to this when I bang my boyfriend.'


Redditmodsrfacists

That’s hilarious! Must have been a very long time ago.


DesertYinzer

20ish years ago.


double-you-dot

See also: Metallica


LAHD123

See I'm not old enough to remember that time.... But Bruce feels like it's happened in the last 5 years


DanaAndrews

see also... Mick Jagger


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Howard was out of his mind then.


ThePuppeteer11

“He hung out with blacks. His mind was a mess”


LAHD123

Why? I'm not the biggest Bruce fan myself.... Sounds like generic, elevator, dad rock 🤷‍♂️


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I’m agreeing with your OP. Howard hated Bruce Springsteen. HATED HIM! But that was old Howard. The Howard of the last 10 years is a celebrity ass kisser.


dropingloads

Howard also said Jennifer Anniston had a smelly cunt before he was taking vacations in Mexico with her


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There’s a million examples of him being a phony sellout. He regularly goofed on Hollywood celebrities and openly mocked them. Now he rims them on the regular.


LAHD123

Yeah, it is crazy how much he has to ass kiss to get people on.... Understable, Kimmel has been his gateway to hanging out with people who could still be considered A- listers. It must be hard to go from the King of the airwaves, to basically coasting on an insane salary for as long as Sirius can entertain it/stay solvent. You can tell by the way he talks about podcasts, he's extremely jealous that his audience he built up over decades can be outnumbered by a random celeb with more Instagram followers and a microphone, and for the first time he's being left behind in the new media age instead of being at the forefront like he was at the turn of the century....


occasional_cynic

Stern had Rosie-fing-O'Donnell on as a guest. He is nothing more these days than a radio Johnny Carson. Except without the funny part.


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LAHD123

I gotcha, yeah I'm mostly talking about the hits like Born in the USA. Just doesn't really do it for me. Not a huge Billy Joel guy either but he's better....


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LAHD123

I gotcha, but this thread was mostly to discuss Howard's flip. I get liking Bruce, he's just not my cup of tea. I'm more of a band man myself like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, AC/DC, Queen... Only old school rock solo artist I'm big fans of would be like Bowie, Hendrix and Elton, maybe a couple others... Like I'm not a big Dylan (Man in the Mirror is one of my favorite tracks but I strongly tie that to The Big Lebowski), Springsteen or Joel fan personally. To each is own and that's fine, just don't be like Howard and hate on someone one year then blow them the next because they'll give you the time of day...


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LAHD123

I am newish.... I'm in my mid 20s but only started listening daily in 2016 and been watching OG clips for maybe a decade. But I'm man enough to admit I first bumped into Howard probably on pornhub cuz he got Carmen Electra to ride the sybian by saying Cameron Diaz did it 🤣 lol those were the days....


LAHD123

And I'm a big Lil Steven fan!!! Sopranos and Lilyhammer! Great actor and musician


No_Fly9734

i love Zeppelin, Floyd, Sabbath and i love Bruce so what you talkin about? I love punk also, i love Ramones and so what. Also, i love AC/DC but cmmon Bruce is another level in term of lyrcist and complexity of song.


No_Fly9734

lol sorry but you such a negative guy. Born in the usa is considered by fans, critics one of best Bruce albums so what you talking about. I see, you one of guys who hate popular songs, albums lol. Born in the USA is great album, not his best but great. You tellin me that dancin in the dark is not great song lol and born in the usa is great anti-war song. Great album. Again, its considered one of best his albums by fans and critics


Redditmodsrfacists

Is that you Gary?


bigbigbamelow7722

I find him very generic too, Bryan adams bruce, Tom petty, John melencamp, it’s all boring rock that sounds the same


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No_Fly9734

born in the usa is not crap stop it with that nonsense. By you maybe but consensus from fans and critics matter.


No_Fly9734

this is such a wrong statement oh man. Go listen early Bruce and go listen saxofon of clarence or piano oh man what you missing. Go listen his Nebraska album or great album like born in the usa or album The River oh man what you missin


No_Fly9734

sorry but Bonr in the usa is not garbage. To this day one of best selling albums ever. Has great song, Born in the usa, downbound train, dancing in the dark, glory days. Great album. To say that is garbage is such extreme reaction and i don't think is his best album.


HousyFootball57

The Born in the USA album is a masterpiece and I would put it up against any other album of his and it would still hold up Bawf


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HousyFootball57

Maybe it's because I grew up in the 80s. I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than Darkness or The River or Tunnel of Love or any of the older albums but I'd say it's as good. I'd also say it's Way better than anything after Tunnel of Love


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HousyFootball57

We're talking about the full album not just the song right? Downbound Train, Cover Me, My Hometown, Working on the Highway, Darlington County, I'm Going Down, I'm on Fire-all masterpieces and imo better than anything on those albums you mentioned. Not saying their bad. BITUSA as whole would definitely be ahead of those in my Springsteen desert island album list


Lone-Woff

Revisionism = Hypocrisy/Opportunism. Howard and Artie both used to bust on Springsteen. Now, because he's going to be on the podcast, he's a rock god. I wish just once that somebody who Howard used to shit on would come in and bring it up. He'd use the I-was-an-angry-young-man excuse and it would be scrubbed from future broadcasts, but at least he'd have been called out for once. There's no people like show people, they smile when they are low. And all that Hollywood shmegegge.


DanaAndrews

who's Artie?


futureman45

Howard is a dolt.


Martyisruling

Howard used to give a hard time to Ross Zapen (however his last name is spelled), because he would go to every concert, and not want to know the set list, so it could be a surprise. Howard said he liked Springsteen, but he wasn't a fan. (Howard took the tern fan literally, meaning fanatical). He preferred Billy Joel. (Even before he was on the show). Artie was a big fan, so Bruce was talked about a lot. I'm sure Howard probably made fun of Gary of he went during the week, especially if he had forgotten to do something or done something wrong the day after going to a concert.


LAHD123

Well, the way he talks about him now, think you could count Howard as a "fan" these days


Langes-Ladder

Would that bawtha you?


LAHD123

Don't care, just kinda funny how many things he can 180 on and no one dare says anything.... Would love a caller to slip by the screeners and call him out a lil sometimes, they wouldn't get far before he hangs up, but it'd be enjoyable lol


severinks

Howard goofed on Gary because he was annoyed that Gary going to see Bruce around the country was pulling Gary's focus from the show and also because goofing on Gary is one of his favorite pastime but he never disliked Bruce he just never gave him a chance until he saw him on Broadway.Howard is the kinda guy who can't understand why someone would see the same artist 50 times on one tour(he used to ask why anyone would follow the grateful dead around too)


RemoveSwimming9588

There’s a lot of history Howie would like to rewrite!!!


hey_now24

He was breaking his balls. Goofing on Gary has been a staple of the show and it’s funny. Howard knows this, that’s why he does it. You MFers take everything literally


Depressed-Bears-Fan

Bruce=Trash


Sir-Dab

That’s the best thing about Howard he is real. He shows his vulnerabilities, fears, narcissism, and inconsistencies. Some may think he’s fake or hypocritical but for an entertainer he’s genuine.


pingpongrecords

My impression has always been that Howard was a longtime fan, but attacked Springsteen for reasons unrelated to music. I don't believe that Springsteen would do the show because of the racial elements (blackface and what-not). As a result, Stern attacked in much the same way he did when Bon Jovi stopped doing the show. I also think in the 90's, Howard considered himself too cool for Springsteen.


DanaAndrews

bs he was NOT a fan, he has to earn that paycheck because now he's ONLY ALLOWED to have guests


tripweed

Artie love for Bruce finally got Howie to change his tune


DanaAndrews

there's that name again, Artie? do you mean the guy with no nose?


Mruxle

Mmmmm... road nuts


DanaAndrews

he also hated MICK JAGGER, said he didn't have the talent of Eddie Vedder or any of the grunge singers that he and Ralph liked, said in 1994 Mick was TOO OLD and that he was terrible... skip decades later, he's Mick Jagger's biographer same with Bruce


Either_Permit

He also loves Ellen & Rosie NOW .....such a fucking asshat . Lol