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homicidal_penguin

The only possible benefit is that Melnyk can't afford this and sells the team as a result. A man can dream


Nervous_Shoulder

Becareful what you wish for.


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AceAxos

Wood Buffalo here we come


miner88

Couldn’t make it March 13 for the Heritage Classic, could they?


Zoidberg22

FWIW that was for indoor


irlfriendsknowoldacc

That is being held at ~~BMO fields~~ **Tim Hortons Field** outdoors. Will have full capacity. Edit: Got mixed up with the Centennial Classic. Tim Hortons Field*


miner88

Says who? The Canada/US FIFA World Cup qualifier at the same stadium had half their tickets canceled.


grifkiller64

Actually, it's at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton.


christinetammy

Okay so my ticket master tickets for the OTT/BOS game in Ottawa got rescheduled for Feb 12th.. Im assuming that still means I can’t go? 🙄


HockeyCoachHere

Uh correct.


christinetammy

Just absolutely no luck. These tickets were originally scheduled for March 13 2020 in Buffalo and then the whole NHL shutdown the day before. Then finally got my refund from those tickets this summer so booked these tickets for Dec 29th in OTT and then that gets shutdown, then postponed and still cant go. Sigh


throwinallwa

Have you considered that this may be a SIGN??? You're the witch that stops these games from happening /s


ReactiveCypress

I had tickets to see the Islanders in Calgary on March 12, 2020. We know what happened next. I then had tickets to see the Islanders here on January 11 of this year, and that got postponed. This one is going to happen now in February, but I've basically been waiting to see the Flames and Islanders for two years now.


Kronzor_

I bought tickets to see Teemu Selanne play 3 times and every time he was hurt or "resting"


throwinallwa

Do you have family on the Isles or something? Get your money back and aim for a better game!


ReactiveCypress

No, but they're one of the four teams I have yet to see play in person which is why I need to go to a game against them.


treple13

Yeah I generally go to 1-2 games a year and of late I've been attempting to see new teams if I can. I have seen 18 teams, and have 14 teams left (Have seen the Thrashers which is why there's a total of 33). Seems like I've seen LA, Vancouver and Anaheim a lot of times though Edit: Which other three haven't you seen? I'm assuming Seattle has to be one


ReactiveCypress

I actually saw Seattle in the preseason this year. That was my first game back post covid so I crossed them off immediately. As of right now it's St. Louis, Ny Islanders, Boston, and Toronto. I'm seeing St. Louis on Monday, and then the Islanders in February. I'll probably try and go to a game against Boston next season, but I don't know if I want to go to a game against the Leafs considering how badly they invade our arena. I'd rather see the Flames play in Toronto than do it here.


treple13

Haha. That's all teams I've seen (other than Toronto) and St. Louis I've definitely seen a few times. Toronto and Edmonton are teams that I doubt I'm going to cross off my list anytime soon just due to that road fan thing. Tickets against the Leafs tend to jack up in price a lot. Some of the games I'm eying in the latter part of this year are Winnipeg, Buffalo, Arizona, and Seattle in order to cross a team off my list


throwinallwa

That's actually really cool. Best of luck.


christinetammy

Honestly at this point i dont even know if i want to try and reschedule lol. Like the bruins already lost krejci, who knows whos going to be gone by the time i can actually attend a game


ffwiffo

k default


Eggbertoh

Thanks for a tweet that's actually informative. Friedman's a gem.


seoulbro

Bye-Bye my tickets to see McDavid on the 31st. I was so looking forward to that!


Mystaes

That’s brutal. That basically just eliminated the majority of gate revenue for the remainder of the season.


lordpappy11

Eliminating revenue has been the Canadian governments strongest trait since covid started


trolloc1

This would be the Ontario govt


lordpappy11

The federal and provincial governments have both been incompetent, the federals have just passed the box to the provinces to avoid any criticism


ThemCanada-gooses

How do you live in Canada and not understand how the levels of government work.


Swa9Dra9on

You'd be surprised how many of us are completely lost when it comes to how our government works. Grade 10 Civics is clearly not enough.


mmavcanuck

A lot of folks just like shitting of “turdoe”because the people they follow in an PROUD facebook group say it’s his fault.


jps78

All I've learned we need to put full grown ass adults into grade 6 social studies


TopTenDangles

Canada and Ontario have been much more competent than the US…we have 1/3 their deaths (adjusted for pop.).


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TopTenDangles

Those reasons can explain some difference, but not a 3x difference. Sure seems like you’ve made up your mind regardless of the data.


ConfuzedSkunk

For someone that claims to like evidence and science you sure do make that claim based on nothing but public opinion


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ThemCanada-gooses

Lol you’re a physician and don’t understand that the provincial government controls health measures?


Swa9Dra9on

There's exactly a zero percent chance you're a physician.


lordpappy11

Would you like me to email you some paystubs lol


ConfuzedSkunk

It's fairly arrogant to think that just because you're a physician you're opinion should have more weight on public health policy. The jobs of public health officer require specific training and experience while having different goals than that of a physician. I'm a computer engineer, that doesn't mean my opinion holds more weight on how apple should be run. Sure, maybe it could one day if I specifically trained for that but right now it sure doesn't.


ThewsTML

I mean at the same time: Physician vs Computer Engineer Who would I trust more to dictate public health policy? Who would I trust more to dictate Apple's next project?


TopTenDangles

Do theaters and casinos have a capacity of 20,000 people? Those seem like different situations to me. I’m not convinced this decision is politically motivated. 41.4% of Ontarians 5 and older have been boosted to date.


ryebreaddd

Americans are much more unhealthy??? How so?


lordpappy11

Obesity, other than age is the biggest factor in covid deaths.


ffwiffo

lol you want trudeau to take the fall


CSmithersJR

🔥🔥


onemanarmia

Oh no, those poor MLSE’s. Sucks for Ottawa tho


ehr1c

Sucks for the whole league, Toronto doles out tons of revenue sharing dollars and this is also going to nuke HRR on top of that.


QuickUp14

All but assuring another work stoppage


ehr1c

How so? The current CBA carries through the end of 2026.


QuickUp14

All based on my recollection, which I’ll admit could be wrong: My understanding is that any hit to HRR will exacerbate an already significant problem that, under the current division of HRR, the players will owe the owners a massive amount of money in large part because the escrow cap doesn’t allow for the agreed split given the Covid-depressed HRR. I think I’ve heard it could be like a billion dollars. That kind of money would obviously be a big point of contention even as far out as 2026. Though if anyone reads this and knows differently I’d like to hear about that.


ehr1c

It's gonna hurt, but it's not like escrow is going to change materially in the next round of CBA negotiations. So long as there's a hard cap linked to revenues, escrow is going to exist. The only thing I can see being reworked is the formula for calculating the cap based on HRR.


QuickUp14

I think that’s right, but that’s where I think the problem lies. We all know players hate escrow and it’s not going away, but now owners will want to change terms as to either how much money escrow allows them to capture or the underlying split or both


ehr1c

The underlying split I don't think will change from 50/50. Realistically this situation with a huge escrow imbalance shouldn't ever happen again barring another global-scale disaster.


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WinterTires

Toronto ain't going to be doling out any revenue sharing this year. If anything, they'll be on the receiving end.


jdragon3

With the massive merch and HNIC/TV revenues and every non restricted game being a guaranteed sellout i wouldnt count on that lmao


ZachKearns

People tryna act as if Toronto ain’t daddy


AlwaysNiceThings

MLSE writes a huge cheque to the league every year… this is not good for anyone that’s a fan of hockey.


Nomahs_Bettah

yeah, this is absolutely shit news for the fans and the players both.


Red_AtNight

It's true, Larry Tanenbaum might only be able to afford 5 new Lamborghinis this year instead of 6


Ragnar_TML

My March 23rd leafs tickets appreciates this.


OptimusRiem

I’m going to this game too!! Been waiting almost 25 years for my first leafs game


DetroitRedLigers

Detroit is in Ottawa April 3rd. Really happy to hear that I can go.


OELisworth7M

A whole month from even 50% capacity? Should have been 50% today, and 100% in a month.


Kronzor_

Should be, but Canada.


sean_psc

You evidently haven't looked at Ontario's hospitalization numbers.


shallowcreek

You’re getting downvoted, but we’re setting hospitalization records every day and some of the most deadly days of the whole pandemic have been each of the past few days.


WhoAmITheLaw

Stupid decision doesn’t make sense


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Why are you pissy?


WhoAmITheLaw

Semi logical comment


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Lol I know why you’re pissy after last night. Holy shit.


STLBooze3

Brad Marchand: “you’re still the reason we pay 20% escrow.”


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Nervous_Shoulder

I take it your not following whats going on in Quebec.


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FouglasDord

Our government is so fucking stupid. The vaccines have been out for a while, at some point they have to just say no more restrictions/lockdowns you're on your own now.


xeno_cws

Lockdowns are not just to stop people from catching covid its to reduce infection rates, and in turn reduce people requiring ICU beds


ConZboy014

Yes and its a terrible way to expect things to simmer down. They had years to fix our medical care system and infrastructure and still, arent doing enough. Your answer was the logic of 2020 and now provides no benefit but prolonging other crisis’


Swa9Dra9on

Yes. Lockdowns are a terrible thing and we should have a better plan by this point, AND we should have a healthcare system that can support 500 additional ICU patients. HOWEVER, this is real life and we don't have any of those things. So it's insane to just say, "Fuck the immunocompromised, fuck those who are at risk, you're on your own." >Your answer was the logic of 2020 and now provides no benefit but prolonging other crisis’ Right but nothing has changed since 2020. You can't just go into the console menu and spawn new nurses.


russels418teapot

Lockdowns are enormously damaging and a failure of policy. We need better solutions than the shrug emoji. Here's one: Recognize foreign medical credentials.


Swa9Dra9on

That's what I said. However, "You're on your own high risk Canadians!" is an insane thing to say.


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Swa9Dra9on

You guys are so fucking aggravating. What a dumb take.


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Swa9Dra9on

>But you have no logical argument? I'm not willing to have a "logical" argument with someone who says "high risk people are always at high risk, so why do I care?" Sorry. >Your position is complete nonsense. It's not nonsense. You're just an asshole.


veedurb

He’s making perfect sense though.


Swa9Dra9on

Are you guys seriously asking me to explain to why leaving high risk people to figure it out for themselves, during a pandemic, is different than a regular flu? Seriously? That's him "making perfect sense" to you? Because if it is, then you're dishonest or stupid, and I'm not interested in talking to you. You understand how frustrating it is to explain basic human decency to adults on the internet is, right?


PuxinF

And what is your answer? Let people get sick because the government should have increased hospital capacity by now? Lower the requirements to work in hospitals, since the schools can't crank out graduates fast enough? As it is, the hospitals don't have capacity. You can criticize the government for not fixing it yet, but that isn't going to help people that need an ICU bed this week.


PSChris33

This is the correct answer. Lockdowns were acceptable during a time when we had no vaccines readily available and when it was the only tool we had. Especially since the pandemic snuck up on everyone and should've served to expose just how fragile our health care is.. Lockdowns right now, though, when there's a vaccine and ample time has been given to take measures to increase hospital capacity/actually pay your nurses what they deserve/hire or import more nurses... these current restrictions are a complete and utter admission of failure on behalf of the Ford government to do anything proactive in the two years we've been in this pandemic. Shit, they've been sitting on billions in covid relief money they were given from the feds. I wonder how they'll miraculously balance the budget this time...


ScienceNthingsNstuff

>these current restrictions are a complete and utter admission of failure on behalf of the Ford government to do anything proactive in the two years we've been in this pandemic. Shit, they've been sitting on billions in covid relief money they were given from the feds. I wonder how they'll miraculously balance the budget this time... Perfect way of describing this and I 100% agree, but I don't think that means we should get rid of restrictions because Ford screwed up. Our hospitals are on the brink because of Ford but if we just open up then it'll get worse. It sucks for us, the citizens, that we have to deal with this bullshit because we have an incompetent government but the other option is letting our hospitals breakdown.


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We’ve been “on the brink” for two years now. Everything is always “overwhelmed”. But we’ve never gone over the brink, and if we didn’t with this, we never will.


nomofica

When was the last time hospitals were cancelling necessary surgeries, like the ablating of malignant tumours in cancer patients, en masse?


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Just to add to your point, there has also been 2 years to investigate existing medications as early treatment options. Covid is the only illness that I have heard of where the treatment plan is to do nothing until it is life threatening.


xeno_cws

I was answering why the government is doing lock downs/restrictions (icu beds) not if I agreed with the current protocal.


russels418teapot

I might be OK with that if I thought the restrictions were having any impact at all on hospitalization. Instead, Omicron seems to be playing out in Canada exactly the same way it is in every other country, many of which have had few or no restrictions.


Nervous_Shoulder

Well Florida has no restriction yet has 40% more cases then Canada.


russels418teapot

With a far lower vaccination rate


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poorgreazy

How are catching covid and getting infected two different things


xeno_cws

They are not? Reduce infection with the intent to reduce people using ICU beds which is what what the provinces care about.


ChapterKey

Only reasonable take in this thread. Lmao at these people who are vaccinated and still want to keep society at a standstill, perpetual lockdown 🤦🏼‍♂️


Dr_Colossus

Difference is universal healthcare. We pay for everyone who's in ICU from covid vs. the states where everyone is on their own. That's the difference between the two approaches. Edit: yay for downvotes for pointing out the major difference.


Swimdemon91

pussies


MajorasShoe

That really sucks for Toronto. So much lost revenue, and this is dragging on too long. Lucky for Ottawa their attendance was barely affected.


ffwiffo

funny the cap will be lower because this. good for tronna right?


xxtuddlexx

So can they start making up games in Canada 3/14 or in Feb? Seems like it'll be pretty tight if not starting til mid March lol


Pork-Roll

Wonder what they’re going to do with the HC. I was interested in tickets but since all this transpired I don’t know if it’s worth that hassle. Went to the 2018 WC and it was great and want to go to another outdoor game but don’t want to be out money or be the unlucky person who doesn’t get to go at 50% IF this also counts for the HC. If anyone has info on that whole deal please feel free to post.


XiahouMao

The Heritage Classic is outdoors, so it likely will be able to proceed normally.


Pork-Roll

Just wasn't confident in buying tickets without hearing anything. What's odd is TM is saying it is canceled while Stubhub is still selling seats. EDIT: Or was, it is back to selling seats.


ZombieJesus1987

Hopefully we don't fuck this up by March 24th. I plan on seeing Mayhem and Watain. First concert since 2019.


TieWebb

Bettman immediately makes plans to end the season in August…


nomofica

But will the NHL postpone their games because of low attendance like they've done for how many other teams that aren't Toronto? Probably not.


RedWingsNow

Seasonal trends mean its likely we'll see another wave in March/April.