Inspectah deck.


True, heartbreaking that his likely classic was destroyed




Flood in rza basement destroyed his 1st album


Destroyed A LOT of Wu Tang material


They are gonna have the aftermath of this in the show


Oh?! For real?! I haven’t watched it yet tbh


Out of the loop, what show?


Wu tang an american saga


I'm pretty sure there's still a wu tang clan show on Hulu. Not sure how many seasons but there's at least 1 whole season I believe


Two seasons out so far, great show


Wu-Tang: an American saga on Hulu, solid show!


Uncontrolled Substance is really good tho. Underrated.


This is kind of borderline because of course he's a member of a group with many classic releases. But it's true that the only time you could say he was really *featured* was on the (underrated!) *Iron Flag* album. Even though it was half a decade later -- a century in rap time -- that album gives a tiny hint of what the prime Deck solo album could have been like.


Too many people in this thread confusing a classic album with their favourite album


Many peoples rebuttals are literally "But I really like that album".


I don’t use “classic” as a term to measure quality, I use it to measure significance. There are plenty of genuinely, honest-to-god great albums that don’t deserve the classic label, and it doesn’t have anything to do with their literal quality.


This thread is a trip. Basically every rapper named you get ten dudes coming in after to let you know that actually, they released at least 17 classic albums. If you read this thread you'd think nobody ever released an album that WASN'T classic in the 90's/00's


My favorite album by said artist = classic


"I like it and its old, such a classic 100%"


It’s actually insane some of the albums people are putting in the same sentence as “classic”. Just because YOU liked it, it’s regarded as a great project, or was really popular doesn’t make it a fucking classic. Classic albums have to be really fucking good, in most cases regarded as really fucking good 10, 20, 30 years later, and most of all have to represent themselves as genre defining piece of art for the era they were made. A masterpiece that both transcends time and is also true to the era it was made. With this in mind y’all need to go delete some comments cuz you look fuckin crazy.


Fabolous easily. Classic mixtapes but ZERO classic studio albums. It frustrates me about Fab smh


I think he's at his best when rapping over beats from popular songs. I still bump The S.O.U.L Tape mixtape series. His radio friendly stuff wasn't my favorite, but his bars are up there all-time.


I wish those were on Spotify. His flow over Rick Ross’ Amsterdam is a classic.


Honestly man, i know people love Spotify, and no hate on spotify it does what it does well. But in terms of collection, look into youtube music, I use it almost exclusively now as it has basically EVERY song you can think of out there.


I’m pretty sure the first two Soul Tapes are on Spotify. At least they are for me and I’m in the US Apparently they’re under “John Jackson - The City” when I search for it but they appear as Fabolous and “The Soul Tapes 1&2” in my catalog


Fab one of the hottest mixtape artist from back in my day & goes hard on others beats/features but is boring shit & lacks that artistic shit you need to carry a album through


Dude can string together some absolutely insane pollsylabbic rhymes to just say pretty much nothing. He's definitely got some meaningful songs but he never seems to be able to really stand out.


I'm new to Fabolous, what do you recommend as his most essential mixtapes?


There is no competition 2 is a banger.


Summertime Shootout 1&2, There Is No Competition 2&3, Soule Tape 1-3


Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition had a ton of tracks from Real Talk and man, I was obsessed with those songs.


Such a goated soundtrack, man I wish they'd remaster that game


lmao one of my favorite video games of all time


I really enjoyed listening to the Soul Tape mixtapes.


Man There is no competition 2 is a fucking classic


From nothin to somethin would be his closest I’d say


Close but no cigar. It starts off very strong & gassed out by the end. & I still fuck with From Nothin To Something. Loso’s Way he was damn close but couldn’t commit to the concept


I grew up with Street Dreams from Fab, would you not consider it a classic?


Some classic songs but not a classic album imo


Papoose. Fire mixtapes, zero classic albums


Came to say Pap. Don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed in an album.


When I bumped nacerima dream, I was pissed.. I waited for years just to be let down


Dude was poised to be big. After the touch it remix and that Hi Tek New York song I thought he was going to be at least, then he just disappeared


Papoose definitely. King LOS as well. Technically phenomenonal but can't make an album worth a listen twice.


Waow king los this is a name I haven’t heard in a while


Los is still getting it, better than ever


This thread sounding like the classic interlude all over again


Shoutout to KRIT


How the fuck he got 14 skits and 14 tracks?


how im hatin?????


Which is funny cause I think KRIT could have fit this depending on how you see 4EIAMLT


Inspectah Deck. Easily the one wu-member who was just as fire as everyone else, but caught the short end of the stick when it came to solo albums. I think the flooding of rza’s studio might have something to do with it all, but I forgot the story.


I said elsewhere in the thread, listening to *Iron Flag* you can kind of squint and imagine what a prime Deck release could have been like


Z-Ro. Houston rapper. Classic tunes like Mo City Don Freestyle, I Hate You Bitch, and Top Notch. Yet no classic album. You can even throw Pimp C solo career in there.


Might not have an undisputed classic, but his discography is super tight, and that can't be said about most of rappers mentioned in this thread.


Legit one of the most consistently strong discographies out there. Like with Devin the Dude I can always be sure to pick out any album and enjoy the hell out of it.


Life of Joseph W McVey should be considered a classic but people sleep on Ro smh. Fave rapper OAT and his album run of Life of Joseph W McVey > Let the Truth Be Told > I'm Still Livin is so good




Just like Fab. They teamed up & couldn’t make a classic together 🤦🏾‍♂️. Freddy vs Jason was pretty fire though


His Checkmate 50 cent diss was one of my favourite tracks as a kid


King of New York? You live in Connecticut.


He fucking obliterated 50 and I will not be accepting any dissenting opinions at this time.




It has a run of straight bangers but that's about it


Wale. More About Nothing is a classic and imo one of the best mixtapes ever, and some of his other mixtapes are fire, but his albums have been lackluster.


Came here to say Wale as well. His early mixtape run was absolutely ridiculous but all of his albums have been subpar IMO. Dude can rap his ass off but everything he’s put out under a label is overall mid


Makes it an even bigger sad when you realize Cole’s second verse on False Prophets is about Wale :( https://youtu.be/wvFDXV0VBg4


Yo man thank you for introducing me to this song. I never heard of it before but that shit is fire and the music video was sick as fuck and hilarious at times. First verse = Kanye Second verse = Wale Third verse = the Industry as a whole Nothing but facts.


If you thought False Prophets is good you should check out Everybody dies by Cole. I think both songs came out the same day


Those two songs are honestly two of Cole's best songs, in my opinion. Love them loads, and they made me ridiculously hyped for 4YEO... which I ended up being disappointed by at the time (Grown on me since, though. Feels like his most mature album even now. Minus Foldin Clothes)


Wale in general doesn't get the respect he deserves


I’m a millennial from the DMV so I’m definitely biased having basically grown up on Wale, but I honestly think he may be one of the most underrated “popular” rappers. I really thought he was going to be up there with J Cole and Drake when they were all poppin off in ~2008


I would call Attention Deficit a DMV classic, but not a classic rap album. I think a lot of us in the DMV have a lot of great Attention Deficit memories and like the sound, but it didn't influence hip hop like a "classic" album should IMO. Wish Wale had blown up, he got gucci mane on a go-go beat and that was wild lmaoo


DMV Millennial Crew checking in.


I really thought Wale would be the next top rapper after he came out with More About Nothing. I was really rooting for him 🥹


Same here bruh. Still one of my favorite artists of my coming of age, but he could've been up there.


Damn ambition was dope tho. Even though I never understood why he was with mmg.


Album about nothing probably isn't a classic, but I thought it was a very well executed concept album. The Seinfeld clips giving a theme to each song is pretty amazing imo. I strongly feel that it was slept on hard cause young cats these days don't give a fuck about a classic show like Seinfeld lol


AAN is pretty good; that and Ambition are my favorite Wale albums.


Love more about nothing still in my playlists in 2022 and the song varsity blues I kno off a different tape but so relavent today mixtape Wale was the man


Album About Nothing and The Gifted are seriously amazing albums tho, they fall JUST short


Royce da 5’9 don’t got a classic


Don't tell Royce that He thinks his career runs circles around Lupe lol


Couldn't believe he challenged Lupe and came with that garbage


Easily Jay Electronica.


When I saw the title that was the first person I thought of. Other great answers in here too, but my immediate thought was Jay.


The momentum that guy had at the beginning of the 2010s is wild.


Stack bundles, gone too soon. RIP.


Stack was so ahead of his time. From his bars, fashion he even had beats that became popular wayyyy before they became hits. Had he lived Stack coulda been the biggest thing outta NY after 50


imma switch it ip and go more recent. Lil baby had made tremendous effort on festures and singles but i dont think he has an classic album even with my turn, it is not talked about much today despite how big it was the months sfter release.


I bet he never releases a classic album. I think he will be known for his singles and features


I honestly feel like it is or at least in the south it’s very big. In Tennessee or Georgia you really can’t go out at night without hearing a couple songs from My Turn. It’s been over 2 years and plenty of people I go to college with and when I visit other colleges still say it’s their favorite.


JT the Bigga Figga. While yes, he did drop two fairly successful albums in the 90s, you literally never hear anyone talk about him. Guy dropped several albums under a few different names, produced over 100 more, discovered Future, is currently building houses in Africa, helps distribute low budget movie productions, etc. All of this, while remaining mostly independent. At the very least, his first album, Don't Stop Till We Major, deserves some recognition.


feel like a lot of the disagreements here are because there's no agreement as to what makes an album a classic


well, yes, of course. fun though


Probably because the notion of what a classic rap albums is is fairly nebulous anyways. There’s always the argument that a classic needs time, first and foremost, and if you use that barometer, most answers here are probably valid.


Cyhi, No Dope on Sundays was good but not close to his full potential as a rapper


Ras Kass never found the right balance of lyricism and broader appeal to make a classic album; I think if he had an exec producer like Dre to hone his song making skills, he could have put out a classic.


Xzibit. 40 days is fucking fantastic from start to finish and I never see ANYONE talk about it.


Everyone goes towards At the Speed of Life, which is great, but 40 Dayz is his classic in my eyes as well. As a kid living in the south, this was the best West coast album in that era between 2Pac and Game.


Literally his best project. It's a shame he became a meme cause of MTV & Pimp My Ride.


I mentioned him somewhere in this thread, too. Restless has tons of great Dre beats and decent bars but his full projects were never anything legendary


Royce is probably the highest up my list without a classic. Lloyd Banks maybe too but I feel like The Cold Corner 2 is a classic mixtape


You can def toss Banks in there too


I agree but also think Street Hop and Prhyme are close


Killer Priest


K-Rino is one of the GOATS. Never dropped an album better than an 8


Also Elzhi… But I understand why


I personally think Busta Rhymes doesn't have a classic album. One of the greatest ever, but something was always missing.


The Coming is his closest imo


Busta is definitely my answer to this question too. He's in my top 5 but yeah, as incredibly dope as almost all of his albums are, he never had a classic.


ELE? Man that album was so dope


Pretty strong album, i agree. I think he doesn't have a bad album. All of them are dope, but IMO none of them is in the class of Illmatic/Ready To Die/Reasonable Doubt/Chronic etc.


Busta definitely has bad albums lol


Can’t believe no one has said Beanie Sigel…..


Royce the 5’9” lots of collab albums but all his solo projects never made too much noise. May be one if not thee greatest lyricist in the game.


joey badass


I was gonna flame you but then I realised that 1999 is a mixtape, not an album. So that's a good shout actually


B4da$$ is pretty good but yeah.


It ages super well IMO, which is an important quality in a classic. Like that album could have come out yesterday or 10 years before it did, and it wouldnt be that out of place imo


Why would say Q-Tip anyways? Renaissance was amazing.


Good album but very lowkey not sure most rap fans have it on their radar like tribe albums


It was a slept on album but it’s GREAT. It just came out after Q Tip’s commercial peak so it got slept on. Even Amplified is pretty good in hindsight


He just never made a record that’s a bona fide *classic*. You know, something that defined a certain sound or era, had massive influence, is widely hailed as a cornerstone record by his peers. I dig his solo records but they’re just not on the same classic level as *Midnight Marauders* or *Low End Theory*.




TIL this sub really dislikes J. Cole.


I'm not even a J. Cole fan but there's no denying Forest Hill Dr is a classic. The singles were huge, it's a largely beloved album and it was massively popular. I think people need to reframe that the term classic also requires some degree of large commercial success.


> there's no denying Forest Hill Dr isn't a classic. based on the rest of your comment, I think you meant there is no denying Forest Hills Dr. *is* a classic.


> I think people need to reframe that the term classic also requires some degree of large commercial success. So, this excludes MF DOOM from having a classic?


And Del and Binary Star and a ton of others. Commercial success cannot be a requirement.


Holy shit, Binary Star mentioned on r/hhh? I never thought I’d see the day.


Lol 10 years ago this sub was nothing but binary star and shit like that. It was nonstop backpack rap. I remember Slang Blade getting posted all the time.


To me a classic needs to be widely agreed upon. If you don't have commercial success, you probably aren't going to be known widely enough to get that agreement. Missing the commercial success puts you in the underground classic or cult classic category.


Metacritic has it as 67/100... User score is 8.3 which is not a classic in my eyes (the rating)


Tech n9ne. Dude didn't hit his stride until maybe 2006-2013.


I agree, especially given how prolific he’s been. Personally I would argue Everready is a classic, but it might just be a classic to us in KC. IMO the whole first half of that album could be in a greatest hits compilation: Caribou Lou, Welcome to the Midwest, Riotmaker, Bout Ta Bubble, Jellysickle, just banger after banger. It kinda falls apart when it hits the game show skit but overall it’s a great record that really encapsulates the whole hyphy-adjacent thing KC had going on at the time.


I'm with you. Everready is pure fucking heat.


Inspectah Deck.. Some good albums but no certified classic


Juice Wrld. Great singles and good albums, but died before he could make a cohesive album of nothing but his peak level songs. Personally, GB&GR is amazing but I don’t think it’s classic like the undisputed ones. To me, a classic is an album that even someone who doesn’t like the genre can appreciate as a good album almost universally and is well regarded in its broader genre or sub-genre.


JID. I think he has potential to be one of the greats with his unrivalled flows, just needs a couple stand out records


JID should be a lot bigger than what he is now. Idk what Dreamville is doing.


There was a short amount of time this year when he had more monthly listeners than Cole, which was p huge due to Imagine Dragons boosting the fuck out of him.


JID is going to be an “up-and-coming talent” until he’s 40, and people realize that he probably missed his window to break big.


Makes me wonder if dreamville is actually just as bad a label as tde? Maybe I been building these labels up in my head but it's actually just the artists I like.


My thing is idk if releasing too much or too little is bad or not. The quality of artist TDE and Dreamville have and the type of music they put out versus like a QC or Future, I expect there to be a longer process. From what the artist say it sounds like they put them through a fine tooth comb process every release.


I don't want qc level drops, I just mean once every 2-3 years. Like, jid has been building hype for so long, at a certain point your album is going to leave folks unsatisfied regardless of how good it is. Just fucking drop somerhing. 4 years is crazy.


Idk if that’s his decision though or even possibly it could be a Kendrick situation where he came out and said I was going through some shit and I had writer’s block 🤷🏽‍♂️. There’s times I forget these guys are human and not part of a machine just pumping out music.


I can’t even name one artist based label that doesn’t end up screwing over their roster eventually.


Really hated the direction Earthgang went once they got picked up. Bunch of annoying radio hooks, lost a lot of grit.


jid has improved so much from his last album its crazy. his next album is extremely anticipated after all these features


He hasn’t been in the game long enough to be on this list. He only has like one major release besides the Dreamville albums and random singles


I mean he's been releasing since 2010. Spillage Village was somewhat known in like 2015 Then he's got Never Story and DiCaprio 2... JID has had the time to do it


He has 2 albums out. Give him some time damn


biggie had two albums total, eminem and ye's first three were classic, nas' first was classic, travis' first is classic, kendricks second classic, that type of argument is weak IMO


Dude is 31


jay elec, charles hamilton


I'd say Pink Lavalamp is a cult classic


Vince Staples


AZ is one of my favorite rappers but I don’t think he has a classic. The closest he came was “Doe or Die” which is a very good album but short of a classic IMO.


Doe or Die is definitely classic


I’ll have to argue against this. Doe or Die is 100% a classic


definitely a classic


Name checks out. No bias response here lol


Doe or Die is definitely a classic IMO


Joe Budden. He’s got some classic mixtapes but he never put it together for an album.


Those mixtapes are basically albums given he was being marginalised at Def Jam at the time.


Good point. They contain all original music. Essentially "free" albums


Always said at the time he was dropping better mixtapes than most rappers were dropping albums. If he hadn't been the odd man out in Slaughterhouse, and wasn't such an abrasive personality, he'd have accrued more respect as a rapper, because there's no denying he could spit.


What a damn shame that we'll never get Glass House.


Killer Mike. RAP Music is fantastic but I would never argue it as a classic. RTJ hasn't missed yet but again, I wouldn't argue them as classics (at least yet).


Interesting answer. Personally, I'd say that R.A.P. Music is a classic and RTJ2 is also up there.


I was with you until you said RTJ doesn’t have classics. RTJ2 and 4 are some of the best albums of the past few years. Maybe different definitions of classics but those are both excellent front to back.


Action Bronson is a great rapper with a great discography but no classics


talented rapper, dope beats, but imo not enough of a vision to see an album as more than a collection of songs


Big Sean, Jay Electronica, Royce da 59, Kxng Crooked, Fabolous, Ab-Soul, Belly, CyHi, Ludacris, Bun B, Childish Gambino, Cassidy Edit: This is not about my personal taste. All these artists have albums that I put in my faves. This is about artists that dont have albums that come up as “classics” in general hip hop discussions throughout the culture.


They call me Jay Elec Lebanese Jay Elec feta cheese Jay Elec the river rafting captain of the seven seas.


These will never not be funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣


They call me jay elec Appleseed, Jay elec cattle feed, Jay elec the master of the Tabernacle scrabble team


They call me jay elec Guantanamo, Jay elec the chakra flow, Jay elec designer of the clockwork orange salad bowl


I scuba dove and snorkeled through the coral reefs of sorcery Dappin any dorsal, even porpoises endorsing me


Bruh this is the funniest bar I’ve ever heard


Bruh you’re barred tf up


this had me in tears


Bun B has classics with UGK tho


Ridin Dirty is one of the best musical things humans have ever made. No bias of course.


Luda absolutely has at least one classic. Word of mouf.


Word of Mouf is absolutely an early 2000s classic. It hasn't aged brilliantly but it's definitely a fun throwback that perfectly epitomises the era it came from.


I think Word of Mouf has aged well! Maybe it’s just me, but every time I feel nostalgic and put it on, it never fails to bring a big smile to my face. Granted, it was also one of my first rap albums.


I was hoping someone said that to OP. I still listen to old Luda albums I thought he had at least 1 classic.


Chicken & beer is great to


Ludacris was a master with punchlines and metaphors. Love that guy. Word of Mouf and Chicken and Beer were both classics IMO.


Agree. I’d consider the whole run from back for the first time to red light district to be classics. Had the world in a chokehold at the time and then was the absolute feature god for a while after too.


both Back For The First Time and Word of Mouf are classics. not a bad song on either of those!


Every member of Slaughterhouse belongs here


Luda absolutely has some classics


>Bun B I mean dude said not involved with a group and even tho I'm like the biggest southern rap hater I'm not gonna say UGK had no classic albums.


Why don’t you like southern rap?


Crooked for sure! Dude is an amazing MC. Absolutely top tier. Also absolutely shit at making albums.