Anybody have a bad experience with a starter?
By - Turtles_Motivate_Me
> Starter did a s*** job causing a giant traffic jam on the course.
Make a tee time next time instead of trying to get snuck in. Also, do you think if he held back the group behind you, there would have magically been no issues? It would have started on the second hole instead of the first.
I mean I have played a lot of golf in my life and I’ve never seen three different groups waiting to tee off on one hole on a Monday afternoon. My situation was just a symptom of them rushing all groups it seemed like.
And not sure where most of y’all play golf, but walking-in is the predominant way to make tee times. A lot of courses around here have Poor online booking services.
> My situation was just a symptom of them rushing all groups it seemed like.
Whenever I see a packed course, it seems to me to be an issue with tee times being too close together and letting people without tee times out.
> walking-in is the predominant way to make tee times.
Did they actually book you for a tee time? Or was it a "we'll get you out in a gap" thing?
It was a: here is a piece of paper with all the tee times of the day, and the next available tee time is 12:30.
I was even told that I should probably play a couple balls as a foursome is in front of me, and that is 100% FINE by me. What isn’t fine is the starter then telling me I have to tee off right now and then sending the next group to the tee box immediately.
The course was not crowded at all as it was middle of the day on Monday, and there are also two courses on this facility. There is literally no reason to be rushing as many groups as possible to the tee box on a near empty golf course.
> What isn’t fine is the starter then telling me I have to tee off right now and then sending the next group to the tee box immediately.
You could have said "no". You could have asked to tee off behind the other group/s.
> The course was not crowded at all
Based on your post, this seems to not be the case.
I mean hindsight is 20/20 I guess haha. And I’m not sure I’m following. I showed up to the course at 11:30 and they told me the soonest they could get me out was 12:30. At 12 I was told I needed to tee off. I can assure you that the course was nearly empty besides the few groups in front of me.
> At one point I kid you not there were 3 separate groups waiting to hit their tee shots.
That makes it seem like when you were playing, there was a bit of a crowd. No matter what, this would have happened. Holding the group behind you up some would not have changed anything.
Sounds like my course. Rushing people out to hurry up and wait. And then the marshal comes around bitching about everything being backed up.
I think if you show up without a tee time just trying to get squeezed in, that is exactly what you are going to get. This isn't golf circa 2019...
You already knew this is a busy course so having people on the tee box waiting for you to hit your approach is something that would be expected.
"Hit a few more putts and head over to the first tee" also probably puts you in that ~5-7 minute gap so I don't think that's an unreasonable request. I think they handled you pretty well given you were a solo walk in at a busy course.
I guess I misconstrued how busy the course was because it was nearly empty besides a few groups. It quite literally seemed as if there were 6 groups playing and they were all stuck behind each other in a giant traffic jam with no other people in front of them or behind them.
They're could have been a good reason like they needed to get you all out before a league or whatever goes off or it could have been a bad reason like the starter just didn't want to have too many plates spinning and just wanted you all out.
When I'm playing solo and I see that #10 is empty, I always ask to start off the back. Not 100% success rate but high enough its worth asking.
Yea I just thought it was odd. I’m totally fine with getting paired up with people, but they never said anything about it and told me I was good to go and play a couple balls if I wanted. It just seemed like an odd disconnect between the pro shop and the starter.
> It just seemed like an odd disconnect between the pro shop and the starter.
I'd consider this a very common occurrence. You can go to a $400/round course and still feel like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Yea it was an interesting course. To add insult to injury, the practice greens were relatively fast Bermuda, and the actually greens on the course were pretty slow bentgrass. To say I was confused on the first hole was an understatement
I’m just here to motivate you.
You showed up without a tee time and they were trying to fit you in as a single? Would it be better to be squeezed between 4somes at 1:00? Singles don't have status on many courses. They would have added you into another group on a very busy day.
I mean I play pretty exclusively as a single on most courses and this has never happened to me before. I legitimately have a picture on one of the last par threes of three different groups waiting to tee off when the course was relatively empty.
I understand singles don’t hold status, and I’m completely fine playing behind a foursome, I just disliked being rushed when there were very few people out.
I had something similar, but not as intense. Tee time for late Sunday with the kids. 27 holes at this course. Starter says how about I send you out a little early on the other 9, there's no one there. Sure.
On #3 there is a single behind us we let through, another at #5 , and one poor guy who ended up waiting on us to finish.
Why send us, a 4some early to send singles behind us. Why not send them first. Why not make them pair up.
I’ve been a few places and had tee times and some old grouchy starter has tried getting out early. No thanks dude, I got here early to warm up and not be rushed.
You showed up no tee time as a single... what do you expect
I show up every day I play golf as a single, and I didn’t expect this. I’m fine with being paired up and having no course standing, but for the amount of people that were on that course there was a lot of hurry up and wait.
Course empty on a Sunday Afternoon?!? Where
Honestly, this may not be the norm, but is pretty typical in my experience.
> As soon as I teed off, the group pulls up behind me and starts getting ready to tee off. I’m not even halfway to my ball and they are standing on the tee box.
That's pretty standard. When the group in front of you is off the tee then the tee is yours. You should be getting on it and preparing to go as soon as it is your turn.
Idk if I finish a hole and the people are still hitting, I don’t walk or drive up on them until they are out of the way. I get out of the way of the hole I finished, but I usually give people space to play without me breathing down their neck.
That is different than being on the first tee when it is your tee time and getting prepared.
Played a course once and on the first tee the Marshal told me I could hit. The group in front was 220yards from the tee waiting for green to clear to hit their 2nd shots into the green. I normally fly about 250ish. I said no I'll wait. Marshal insisted I hit away so I said ok. I flew them and landed 30 yards ahead of them. They turned around gave the "WTF!" Signal to me. I turned and told the Marshal to go and explain to the group ahead that he should go explain to them that he insisted I hit up on them.
I also want to share a positive Marshal story. We played a nice course near us about 12 years ago that cost about $120 to play. The cost included a warm up bucket of balls before our round so we load up and go down to the range. This range had two separate tee decks. One on the left had hitting mats (which were full) the one on the right was grass. We head over and hit about half our buckets before the range picker drives up to us and yells so everyone on the range can hear "guess you boys can't fucking read", I said "pardon?" He says "sign says mats only!" and drives away. We didn't notice the sign upon arrival to the range. So we pick up our buckets feeling pretty embarassed and wait for one of the mat bays to open up. We proceed to the first tee to tee off and didn't mention this interaction to anyone but had agreed we would not return to the course after this round. As we approached the third tee, waiting for us on the tee was a Marshal and the head pro. They introduced themselves and the head pro proceeded to explain that the Marshal and a few members had seen the interaction we had with the range picker and were appalled by the way we were treated, he apologized, and said he wanted to make it right so he told us to come find him when we were done our round. After we finished our round we located the pro and he brought us to their restaraunt and said to bartender "dinner and drinks are free for these guys today" then turned to us and said "apologies gentlemen that picker does not represent how we treat guests at our club and gas been dealt with, dinner is on us, and we have a free pass for each of you for your next visit."
Can I ask the name of and where this course was? If it’s near me, that’s the type of club I want to do business with.
Black bear ridge in Ontario canada
Ah. A little to far for me. Thanks!
That’s definitely some awesome customer service for sure. I definitely have had mostly positive experiences from golf course staff, but the negative ones really stand out as it’s the spot we all go to unwind and it sucks when stuff like that happens.
8/10 starters are garbage cranky old men who think they’re the mayor of the golf course. Your situation does not surprise me but im sorry that it happened.
I would say I’ve had mostly positive experiences from starters, but the negative guys always crack me up. Put someone in a position of power, no matter how small, and some people just love taking advantage of it haha
The starter should have never let you go out. That was his mistake.