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Clearly you shills are hating because you don't understand the D&D. Fortunately this one ape got you covered with his brilliant simile.

Clearly you shills are hating because you don't understand the D&D. Fortunately this one ape got you covered with his brilliant simile.

itsafuseshot

Want to have fun? Ask them how the hedge funds are creating synthetic shares at the push of a button. Ask them where the fake shares are coming from.


SkidmarkSteve

I think it was Brazil?


phoenixmusicman

Dark pools, duh


Ok-Support-7335

What do you mean where are they coming from? They are coming from the brokers that are claiming they have the shares available to lend to the shorts when they do not. Market makers do not have to locate the shares immediately for short sales. They can locate the shares later on or not at all (failure to deliver). It's not complex if you actually use your brain.


Obie_Tricycle

How do apes currently own fake shares then? What does it mean to deliver a fake share?


Ryukiyian

It's not a fake share, it's a synthetic one. The shares are the same just given to multiple people at once.


Obie_Tricycle

So multiple brokers accept delivery of the same synthetic share? How does *that* work?


Ok-Support-7335

No, same lot of synthetic shares. Shorts are sold by the thousands on the open market. Those are not located and those thousands of shares are given to retail and then MSM tries to get them to sell on the downtrend so the shares never have to be located and the MM pockets the money from shorting the synthetics. However, apes aren't selling the downtrend, which is why the gamestop problem has become so big. Think, shill, think.


Obie_Tricycle

That's incoherent and it doesn't answer the question in the slightest. Why would a broker accept delivery of a share that another broker was simultaneously accepting delivery on? **How could that possibly happen?** That's the question that you need to answer.


Ok-Support-7335

Someone sells on the NYSE through shorting. Those shares are sold to someone. Ape buys them and holds the shares. Shares were never located, i.e. phantom shares. Now, ape owns phantom shares. This is why MSM wants apes to sell. Their shares are not real and are dangerous to short sellers, which is why the subs are pushing for direct registration, which removes shares from DTCC. You DO NOT own the shares on your brokerage apps. They merely tell you they bought you the shares and when you sell for a loss or gain they provide you with the difference in money you made without necessarily locating the shares. This is why it takes t+2 days to settle a trade.


Obie_Tricycle

> Ape buys them and holds the shares. Shares were never located, i.e. phantom shares. But let's say it's an adult, not a retarded internet child, who buys the shares. What then? If I call my broker and ask him to buy me 100 shares of GME today, he's going to easily be able to do that and I'm going to have those shares in my account by early next week at the absolute latest, but those would have to be fake shares, right, because apes "own the float?" So why is my broker cool with accepting delivery of fake shares? >You DO NOT own the shares on your brokerage apps. They merely tell you they bought you the shares and when you sell for a loss or gain they provide you with the difference in money you made without necessarily locating the shares. I don't use an app, because I'm old; instead I talk to one of my brokers almost every day, because he's a friend and neighbor. He doesn't lie to me and claim that my shares were delivered then somehow pocket some money for Edward Jones. That's not a real thing that exists. I am **definitely** the beneficial owner of the **definitely** real shares in my brokerage account and to think otherwise would require a level of retarded-conspiracy brain that I can't even pretend to fake. >This is why it takes t+2 days to settle a trade. The settlement cycle is three days because of "fake shares?" Why? How does that make sense? Do you think the deadline would be instant if it weren't for "fake shares?" I don't know if I even want to read any response you might make, because this has already gotten dumb enough, so suffice it to say, the insane, retarded conspiracy theory that you somehow believe in is the thing that's actually fake, not the shares of GME that everybody can freely trade in, because it's so incredibly liquid.


Nonthenthe

If there are naked shorts, then there are naked longs. Are you saying that some longs don’t own the shares they think they do?


Ok-Support-7335

Yes, that is exactly the case of gamestop. Longs own shares that are phantom shares and therefore the float has increased substantially and illegally. Not rocket science here.


Obie_Tricycle

Why don't you retards file a shareholder derivative suit and finally end all this stupidity? If this scheme is obvious enough that a bunch of internet children could sniff it out, then that's clear negligence on Gamestop's part and shareholders deserve some answers. If any of this was real, at least one of you useless dumbfucks would have called a real lawyer by now. This entire thing could have been resolved months ago, but deep down I think you know it's all fake and you don't really want to the roller coaster ride to end, because you don't have much else going on in your life.


Zoamet

If they can short shares without borrowing them that means that they don't have to pay a borrow fee or risk a margin call since they actually never have to cover it. So how can naked shorts ever be squeezed? In your fever dream theory the hedge funds can literally print synthetic shares from thin air and have been doing so at an industrial scale for 8 months. If they could do that why not use that to cover their real short positions? Create one synthetic share and use it to cover one short. Done.


Ok-Support-7335

They still have to pay the borrow fee even if the shares are not located as the short is still not covered. Most shares are found at a later date but some are never found and are failure to delivers. Those transactions should have been reversed since they were not legal to begin with since it is naked shorting, and the only one legally allowed to do that is Citadel to "provide liquidity."


Obie_Tricycle

>They still have to pay the borrow fee even if the shares are not located as the short is still not covered. Why? Why would they have to pay any amount of money to anybody in order to short sell fake shares that will never be delivered?


Ok-Support-7335

They still have to cover those shares. Period. Why is it a fever dream? They report failure to delivers monthly, and there are a lot of them. You logic doesn't even make sense. You don't just print the shares. The shares are created from shorting without finding shares that have to be lent out by current shareholders. Do you even understand how the market works? It's like what robinhood does. In most cases they never actually buy the shares, they just say you have them and pocket the difference in price as most sell for a loss. Stop being intentionally stupid; it's pathetic.


Zoamet

>In most cases they never actually buy the shares, they just say you have them and pocket the difference in price as most sell for a loss Prove it. And more importantly, prove that there's enough of these phantom shares to justify the MOASS theory. EDIT: also the GME borrow fee is tiny and has been that way ever since the actual squeeze in January, so if you hope to catch them with that have fun lol. It also completely contradicts the current meme that shares should be registered since apparently nobody cares if the shares can't be located and fail to deliver.


Obie_Tricycle

> They report failure to delivers monthly, and there are a lot of them They report FTDs twice a month and the number is (and has been since shortly after the squeeze) exceptionally low for an otherwise volatile stock. Why are FTD numbers so low if this scheme is real?


Ok-Support-7335

There should be ZERO FTDs. Are you seriously this stupid? A failure to deliver is when someone shorts and they cannot locate a share to borrow. The FTDs are eventually kicked to Citadel, who does not have to disclose their FTDs. MM privileges are insane.


Obie_Tricycle

>A failure to deliver is when someone shorts and they cannot locate a share to borrow. LOL! No, there are countless legitimate reasons a share might not be delivered as planned. It's almost never naked shorting, and on the rare occasion that it is, then it's game over for the short scheme. The shit you apes believe is absolutely insane.


Ok-Support-7335

What are these reasons then?


Obie_Tricycle

Fuckery. Only fuckery. All the millions of shares in thousands of companies that FTD every day are all naked short selling and nobody cares because the entire market is corrupt, except you're going to become a billionaire with your shares of a shitty video game store, because the market is going to crash and your shares are parked at a transfer agent for some reason, so MOASS will probably be next week. It's all true, now go pick out your lambo.


Ok-Support-7335

Give me a reason. You said there were countless. Give me some. Like, were you wrong before and can't admit to it, or are there other reasons? If there are, I'll admit I am wrong. I am a sensible and logical person. Can you be? Why the fuck would I want a lambo...


itsafuseshot

Ok, then where are the billions of failure to delivers? GME isn’t hard to borrow, it has a low borrow fee. There is no reason to “create synthetic shares” when there are plenty of shares available to short.


fortheloveofthesport

These metaphors just get worse and worse. If someone sold a bunch of counterfeit candy, why would they need to buy back that candy from the purchaser? And why would buying back the candy help them pay off Reese’s?! Purchaser: buys a burned/pirated cd of Drake. Seller: (after somehow locating purchaser) sorry, Drake found out what I’m doing, gotta buy that cd back from you so I can pay him. Purchaser: understandable, have a nice day.


terror-twilight

In this scenario, they’re paying Reese’s back in peanut butter cups, but they’re also giving them back way more than they owe because they’re giving back all the real ones and all the fake ones. Reese’s is going to be confused as to why he can’t count. Also in this metaphor people buy Reese’s but don’t eat them. They just collect them like Funko Pops.


Depressedredditor999

> They just collect them like Funko Pops. You can eat those too if you *really* want to.


gotduckling

What a piss poor analogy


teslaetcc

Give the poor original poster a break. It’s challenging to offer a perfectly clear analogy to demonstrate an idea that doesn’t make any sense.


Obie_Tricycle

Now Kit Kats are involved too? MOASS is so confusing.


Depressedredditor999

Apes be like "Wow! This is brilliant!!! Make this guy king of Uranus!"


West_Valuable_7146

Why apes can’t just check the borrow rate of amc and gme? 🐒 it is so easy to short those stocks and you only need to pay less than 1% on the borrow fee annually. 🤭


Zoamet

Because the Hershey Company has a lot of questions... I think. Read the DD I dunno. Ook Ook.


West_Valuable_7146

I am not mad. Thanks to apes I will make some easy money on my shorts 🤑


phoenixmusicman

[0.6% for GME to be exact](https://iborrowdesk.com/report/GME)


Jumblyfun

PHD level DD right there


Zoamet

I think it's spelled PHP


Jumblyfun

No we don't speak the bad word, despite all its flaws we have Javascript in a workable place these days and don't need to use that which shall not be named anymore


qdolobp

PCP*


Inevitable_Ad6868

phoop. Phoop there it is!


Saiing

I fucking love the term 'D&D' for their ridiculous analysis. Given that they're all LARPers it fits perfectly.


azns123

The hedgies have an all powerful ‘share printer’ but only use it for dying video game and movie theater brick and mortar. Seems legit


Halanna

I'm gonna need an icepack after banging my forehead on the table from reading that. Metaphorically natch.


Depressedredditor999

Can I buy that ice pack off you? I got caught selling fake ones. It's just so easy to do, without laws watching out for it.


15104

That’s some god tier double down! #tits jacked


stanusNat

And just like their synthetic share DD this raises many more questions than it answers.


Numnums81

This is so fucking cringey