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ClearlyInvsible

Wait, those reindeer shield units're capturable? Huh. Neat.


CheneyQWER

I think it would be better to have a tier list version ahead. So you can plan ahead.


darkrai848

Any one know if any of the summer enemies can be captured? I would whale for the big crab thing.


CheneyQWER

https://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.naver?blogId=syd417&logNo=222500772419&proxyReferer=


darkrai848

Translated the page and looked all over, but I can’t find any list of all the units (much less the crab) am I missing something?


CheneyQWER

Oh? You mean the crab? We never know, it is basically a summer version of hydra. In general the special version should be released later than the original one, I guess we need to wait for at least 2 years


coldfluffyhawk

Why is M16 there? [https://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.naver?blogId=syd417&logNo=222507748928&proxyReferer=https:%2F%2Fm.blog.naver.com%2F](https://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.naver?blogId=syd417&logNo=222507748928&proxyReferer=https:%2F%2Fm.blog.naver.com%2F) Does this imply she's a PA unit?


CheneyQWER

yes, SF M16's skills were leaked from the beta server almost 6 months ago, but nobody knows why she hasn't been released yet


coldfluffyhawk

This is the first time I'm hearing about that, I guess I should start saving up, but I can't resist trying my luck catching the ringleaders. Thanks for the info :3


TanyaZeEvil

I knew I wasnt going crazy when I saw an image of her Assimilation at one point floating around somewhere and went "That...that looks like a Protocol Assimilation art" then the image vanished before I could look into it further and couldn't really find people talking about it. So guess she does have some stuff proven to be in the works. ​ So...does this mean the dialogue of Elisa proves she's also floating around? Man, can't wait for official details to be released on these two.


WhistleOfDeath

during xmas destroyer banner i believe


pointblanksniper

iirc, i think they've also been recurring on the regular banners since then


CheneyQWER

Yes


Evening-Mode4179

Can they be linked with their regular version?


CheneyQWER

Linked? They are literally two independent unit


Rosencrantz2000

No, but they are starting to have them in banners outside of Xmas. Honestly seasonal mooks are a stupid idea precisely because you have to get extra copies, meaning they have to appear out of season.


Evening-Mode4179

hmm, thats what i suspected. Ty for your answer.


StandardMandarin

Maaan, this sucks. I was specifically hoarding capture contracts and charges all this time for Adeline (Nyto Black), cause I like that mysterious aesthetic about Nytos, and the fact that she is pretty much useless is rather sad.


WhistleOfDeath

keep in mind that SF forces aren't necessary for most content outside rankings (which is where this list usually comes to play), and SF only maps in some events are perfectly clearable using Scarecrow who is free. it's fine to pull for who you want, and while not the best example, it's the reason why I skipped Destroyer and pulled for Architect instead. ~~I did get Alchemist for meta tho lol~~


CheneyQWER

Anyway, destroyer will be substituted by aqua architect


StandardMandarin

Yeah, I have Scarecrow fully upgraded and she's a damn badass.


CheneyQWER

scarecrow is still one of the most versatile ringleaders in May 2022


Isokek

How to play GFL Raise Alche and team, win ~~almost~~ everything. Now you can raise anyone you want


Mich997

Try that against Gunner Cherubs and you'll die :heh: Speaking of which, guess what mica spams in later events.


Omegagod57

Maxed Alchemist?


WhistleOfDeath

only one copy, if that's what you're asking. don't think I'm gonna bother with ringleader petals, they don't seem that important to me. skills and level-wise she's pretty much maxed though.


Omegagod57

Maxing the Petals doubles the stat bonus they give the Echelon, increases there base stats by a good bit AND boosts their Active Skill. A Max Petal Alchemist and Agent are DEVASTATING. All I need is one more to max petal Agent. Still good for you on getting her. Next is either Sharkitect or Adeline.


WhistleOfDeath

eh, Alchemist is strong enough already for my needs, I don't think I'm gonna bother getting more petals (not that I have the money for that lol)


Omegagod57

Right. I assule two Manticores are in her Squad.


EugeneNicoNicoNii

Just play it how you like it, Waifu comes before Meta, and Adeline is very sweet


StandardMandarin

Yep, that's why I have L85a1 in one of my echelons still :D


Mik87

Lets be honest here...you would pair her with manticores, so they would roflstomp most enemies anyway.


StandardMandarin

Hm, you are not wrong :D


CheneyQWER

Adeline could have high DPS under Aline's support, but the short-range limit its feasibility.


StandardMandarin

Hm, should probably try it. She's next after Agent for capture, right?


pointblanksniper

she's the next "new" ringleader after agent if we follow any sort of logic with releases though, she will only come when MS runs. in the meanwhile, it will probably be all reruns, and possiblely summer architect first depending on when EN feels like summer events should run


StandardMandarin

I trust you.


CheneyQWER

Maybe? The sequence is not the same in CN servers. But Aline should come within 3 months of Adeline's release. Aline is always nice to have if you plan to build a melee formation.


XishengTheUltimate

Useless in comparison and actually useless are very different things. While most of the other ringleaders probably outshine her, Adeline is no doubt still capable of serving quite well. It’s more important to use who you like.


StandardMandarin

Not saying I won't. Just a bit disappointed, that's all.


CheneyQWER

Please tell me if you have any suggestions (translation, content, whatever)


pointblanksniper

the official spelling of white nyto's name is [Alina](https://twitter.com/Ceia___/status/1375397171046977539) and all the SF upgraded units are called SWAP on EN instead of EX


CheneyQWER

Thanks. I use EX because it is shorter, words' length is important to consider. Can you give more advice about abbreviations?


jlaweez

Use underline capital S. I think this would make it clearer while saving space, i.e. Guard_S.


kimek0986

Oh? Architect gonna have an alternative version? And she seems to be very good? COOL! Any idea when she is gonna come to EN? P.S. A slight teaser if possibe: just what so good about her?


Mich997

The HOC skill from regular Architect is traded for something like Beach Fairy's


kimek0986

Oooh?! So Aqua-Arhi can slow entire enemy echelon down? Super cool!


CheneyQWER

2 control skills


Kipdid

Late response I know, but devs have expressed wanting to release the seasonal ringleader alts around their associated time of year, so with summer coming up beach archie should be soon, maybe after the twins (>!The Nytos I mean!<), if not sooner


kimek0986

That's cool! Though I fear how many resources I'm gonna have left after the hunt for best maid. ​ *P.S. Please, don't get mad G36: you're incredible in your own right, but lovely Agent can work as a Parachute fairy, while you... have your own merits.*


Kipdid

For what it’s worth, one of the twins is considered executioner tier, if you want an excuse to save up somewhere


Gau55RX

>!Wait 'til they fight Avernus Elites in Theaters along Rogue RPK-16 using Coalition units!<


blaze92x45

Oh God what are we in for. Message me if you're worried about spoilers.


MaNemsJef69

I would like to know as well


Adorable_Basil830

I have a unit led by Architect and made up of only jaguars, currently attempting an artillery-only playthrough.


MaNemsJef69

Thats literally the first thing i think of when i got her, just katyusha my way to victory


tableball35

I’m getting Adeline and you can’t stop me


CheneyQWER

She's already mine


BrStriker21

How your tire list works? I'm so confused


CheneyQWER

The higher the number, the higher the strength


BrStriker21

Ahhh, got it


GlyphInBullet

As a massive SF Waifu simp, Ringleaders costing extra resources for generally weaker than G&K performance makes me saaaad...


CheneyQWER

No they are not, in general SF has higher utils while G&K are specialists. SF also has stronger tanking, higher formation flexibility and require less manipulation.


GlyphInBullet

See, I'd kinda say the opposite. SF has the raw brute stats with things like Manticores and Alchemist but can't really go the distance for enemies that you can't outpower (like a bunch of upcoming Paradeus stuff). ​ So the ringleaders who don't have pure power (like say, Gager) going for them on the level of Alchemist end up being kinda 'eh'. ​ Some do have good utility though, like Agent or Scarecrow.


CheneyQWER

Watch the videos: https://b23.tv/ySeqVzn SF should be fine as long as you have the proper formations The most considerable drawback is you can't get the highest possible score in some events


Link_hunter9

Weaker? If anything I receive stronger than G&K


adolftinker

rip manticores


CheneyQWER

Manticores are still very cost-effective for beginners


Link_hunter9

*laughs as I have one with 10 cost.* sure, but I do admit they are worth every resource. I put it at the front tiles bc it’s utterly laughable seeing enemy forces wasting bullets on its thick armour before they get wiped out.


Isokek

Tfw I retired my SWAP Dragoons, extra Numeum(have 2) and kept SWAP Striker, SWAP Guard. Fuck me and my outdated reference.


CthulhuCall

White Nyto core are swap vespid, swap dragoon, swap aegis, swap guard and a striker. You'll need them for that 0 damage Nyto swarm tactics


CheneyQWER

No, you don't need swap aegis, guard or striker But swap prowler instead


CheneyQWER

Specifically: 3 swap prowler, 2 swap dragoon, 1 jaguar, white nyto


CheneyQWER

Train some swap Jaeger, good supplemented to Numeum


Link_hunter9

i have max reg. striker and jaeger, and SWAP striker just go implement on my side, so they’ll be in reserve or retired once I get them maxed. Waiting on the SWAP jaeger though. (Btw, agent is the current collation capture event.)


Krimelord

Is it a good idea to put Alina and Adeline together, or would it be better to just use Alina with another SF unit?


CheneyQWER

Alina with 3 swap prowler, 2 swap dragoon, 1 jaguar


Mizume_Yuzuru

What? You can have SF units? How?


CheneyQWER

Complete the mission 7-5, and you will unlock the system.


Mizume_Yuzuru

Ah, Thanks!


cAncEr0u5

Don't use this tier list as gospel >!Old servers have paradeus that can't be pushed by manticores!<


CheneyQWER

Don't use any tier list as gospel Manticores are still recommended even without the push, especially for beginners.