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Dear Back 4 Blood devs... Your bots are... special...

Dear Back 4 Blood devs... Your bots are... special...

Thalindra

I like it when they either just get stuck and start vibrating or when they throw a molotov at one zombie at the end of a horde


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/eQYQsQU.gif)**...**


Oakshror

It's like the hulk, they get angry but remember we the players will shoot them if they transform


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transistorrsect

Commence the jiggling!


[deleted]

One of the all time favorite episodes of Aqua Teen. Also, want some juice? 🥤


sporkatr0n

I don't know why I have these goggles...


marduk05

I use this line all the time to cut the tension, someone even added it to urban dictionary and [it's perfect.](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I%20don%27t%20know%20why%20I%20have%20these%20goggles)


LtLwormonabigfknhook

I say this all the time and no one ever gets it lol


transistorrsect

We are getting old.


TheNomadicMachine

And all we have to show for it is action bills


RabidSeason

There was tequila this whole time?!


Subvertio329

Dude, same here, I was so happy to see someone comment it lol


Lurkingmonster69

So.... are we jiggling.... or...?


IforgotwhatIwasdoing

Now do one for the pit that big boi spawns out of. Had to revive a friend who died on it and he was streaming. Thought I was going to have a seizure watching the clip.


gazow

why does your floor have nipples, id vibrate on top of that too


ravens52

Dude, you’re a fucking national treasure. Start a religion, motherfucker. I’ll follow you.


911porsche

It's called /r/chloe


Lancer_Spade

I'm hearing bot friendly fire dialogue every 5 minutes, hearing everyone scold Mom is fucking hilarious


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/bWRWk33.png) *I like when they reply with this*


pootinannyBOOSH

I mean seriously, I'm in one spot with an lmg shooting a horde and people come running right into my fire, like wtf


Its_aTrap

People in front NEVER crouch either. Like come on, I can't shoot through you


Farren246

Not until you get the bullet penetration upgrade anyway...


Rymanjan

Down In Front is the best card in the game hands down. If I'm doing a run higher than recruit, that's my starter card


RagingWaffles

They seem to actual have put in logic for who was firing and who was moving. When someone moves into my line of fire, my person is like don't get in my line of fire, dumbass! But when I shoot if they are already moving/not moving at all, it's usually a "that was my bad!" Kind of statement... So it sounds like you are not the problem. :)


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WirelessTrees

Don't blame me! I was trained to help people, not hurt them!


CMDR_SICK6_Nightmare

#Watch your fire! Shut up Evangelo.


danny_is_dude

I love the fact that when Evangelo yells that at Walker, he replies "Well watch where you park yourself!" or "Watch yourself". I'm so happy to have a character that tells NPCs that walk in you're line of fire to fuck off when they complain about getting shot.


CMDR_SICK6_Nightmare

Yeah it's great haha I main as Walker. Dudes cool in my book, has some good dialogue. The NPCs are dumb tho. Tight quarters, fighting a horde, and the bots love to absorb my shots instead of me killing the ridden. -_-


dstayton

Bots are just the bait you use to setup cool trick shots.


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/evAtUtj.png)


SirFancyPantsBrock

The bots think you're a dick as well but according to the rules of robotics they can't tell you in fear of hurting your feelings


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/Ks8chlC.png) *yelling is enough to hurt their feelings* *~~^((inb4 some expert tells me how to actually code depression))~~*


Lopoi

Just open the ToDo list. That should be enough for depression


lookiecookie_1001

I recently took over a project with a massive todo list from someone and reading this comment now hurts a bit :(


Jynxmaster

if (srGrafo.shot) { srGrafo.feeling = "sad"; } else { srGrafo.status = "dick"; }


Kokuswolf

while(srGrafo.isPlaying){ if(srGrafo.action == 'shooting'){ srGrafo.mood = 'sad'; srGrafo.publicOpinion = 'sceptical'; srGrafo.botOpinion = 'dick'; } else{ srGrafo.mood = 'defiant'; srGrafo.publicOpinion = 'dick'; srGrafo.botOpinion = 'sceptical'; } }


Trivale

I get this. My dick is a function, too.


gazow

what does dick() return


StickFlick

Usually piss or jizz but on rare occasions, blood.


Lopoi

if your `dick()`returns `blood` you should run `checkDoctor()`


Abir_Vandergriff

You'll have to pass Dick::BLOOD through the error handler.


substandardgaussian

`checkDoctor` takes `int dollars` as an argument and always returns `false` unless `dollars == INTMAX`. Must be a bug.


Aalnius

After some analysis i've found this bug only seems to occur if your region is set to the united states must be some weird localisation issue.


Slanderous

*Skynet will remember this*


cward7

That must be why the bots will just stand there and stare at you instead of giving a rez when you're downed. I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me already, and the game's barely been out for a week.


hybridfrost

I felt like the bots in the beta version a couple of months ago were at least passable. But in the official release they literally can't even move around the map without getting stuck on a wall


breadedfishstrip

Until one bot gets stuck at one of the events and you don't notice until you're at the saferoom and the game will not end until _everyone_ is in the saferoom. I learned this the hard way in Beta.


Messyfingers

The fixed that luckily, bots will teleport to you if they get stuck, but also only humans need to be in the saferoom.


ChiefJabroni94

Had a bot stuck on the 2nd floor of a house in Act 1. Couldn't move far enough ahead for him to teleport, took him a little while to figure out how to go down the stairs but luckily he made it.


Vukasa

What are zombies? I only heard something about ridden while I was at my photoshoot for my personalized collectable card. +10% team fastidiousness


OdenShard

They're non tall boys that you see once in a while....before being massacred by tall boys and hockers🤣


Emighettispaghett

I have had a considerably easier time with bots than I have randoms honestly, at least the randoms I’ve played with. Always run by themselves, get down then disconnect after people die trying to save them


Locdonan

I think you a word there?


alanbbent

"Let" and "Leave" both translate to the same word in Spanish, and I believe Grafo is a native Spanish speaker


Jogey_The_Pirate

This is how me and a friend did expert in L4D. Sorry Ellis.


who-stole-the-cake

Oh the pain


TheExtraMayo

Every time you use the minigun they place their face directly in front of the gun


Helpful_Cheek2448

I just shoot anyways, either they move or they die 🤷


AaronTuplin

[if he dies he dies](https://giphy.com/gifs/lZhymdRsuFDmU)


bsnimunf

L4d2 they always used to waste Medi packs when you didn't really need them yet.


Onireth

Hah, wasn't it a bit of a joke in 2 that they would try to heal you of acid spit damage while you were still in it, meaning you moved slower and couldn't get out?


coItmanfraco

This is the shit I remember when everyone circlejerks about how “flawless” and “how much better” L4D was than b4b. At least in b4b the bots know when to give you resources, instead of just fucking wasting them every opportunity they get.


blazingwhale

Well L4D is how many years older remember. I think it's more L4D is great for it's time and whilst B4B is objectively better its not as good as it should be comparatively given how restricted L4D developers would have been at the time.


coItmanfraco

I agree with this. The problem is people are not viewing it this way.


blazingwhale

Did not expect that reply, i guess we're done here then. Good day sir.


pookachu83

What did i just witness???


blazingwhale

History


pookachu83

I think my jaw actually dropped when i saw the potential for an online argument turn to...civility...what the fuck, man. Dont make me reevaluate my views on humanity, its so comfortable here with no faith awaiting the inevitable collapse. Dont give me hope..


blazingwhale

Hey fuck you buddy! (is that better?)


IcemaanN

B4B is definitely not objectively better


Chumongocho

Have you played B4B?? The bots are heal happy psychos! They constantly bandage me at above 2/3rds health. At least in L4D the bots understood they had one job: protect the players at all costs! If you were downed, they were there. These B4B bots are totally aloof in dire situations.


Vertiguous

Bots so brainless you wonder why the zombies are even chasing them


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/0TAjECB.png)


Lopoi

Do they still have trouble using healling stations?


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/49oVLFu.png)


WillfulRiver

If only the AI was just as advanced enough in avoiding the gun aim


LuntiX

I think the bots don’t use up charges on the healing station either. You can milk them for heals with the card that heals the group when someone gets downed. You down them in front of the healing station, the card heal kicks in, you pick them up and get them to use the healing station. Repeat until fully healed.


Saberfox11

Do they not run out of lives doing that? I thought you could only go down 2-3 times.


Coolster360

Healing stations give one life back when you use it.


Terri_Hist

All I can say is..... Fo4's Dogmeat arround tripwires


IforgotwhatIwasdoing

Dogmeat: There's a stimpack over here Mines, tripwires, grenade bouquets: Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!


tryce355

This sounds like it could be useful. A quick google tells me Dogmeat can't die, so you've got a reuseable minesweeper, yes?


OffWhiteDevil

A reusable minesweeper that stays close and doesn't care if you're in the blast radius.


tryce355

I can see how that would be less than ideal. I haven't played FO4 so I assumed he'd toodle off to fetch said stimpack, or that one could point and have him fetch.


mdkubit

[Hey! I'm doing the best I can! These bot controls are terrible!](https://imgur.com/6JJnd1E)


uhihia

KUBIT GET OUT OF THE ROBOT


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/e7r5QpV.png)


mdkubit

[Yeah, next think you know this happens!](https://shikinamibogard.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/asuka-langley-soryu-abraza-a-shinji-ikari.jpg)


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/01pZ64p.png) *I better leave before that fandom arrives*


pizzaman226

why would you say something so controversial yet so brave that I agree with fully


SpartanXIII

I mean, Gainax and Trigger are interchangeable, the only thing that's different is how the stories are supposed to make you feel. [And the subtlety.](https://youtu.be/WYY7YM3E9aw?t=98)


Mirria_

Haven't watched the show but I feel I don't need anymore.


lovesickremix

The show at the beginning was actually decent. The euphemism for sex and growth was actually interesting... Until later in. Then dinosaurs.


Lurking4Answers

yeah there are a lot of very good mech anime and Darling in the Angst is not one of them


h3lblad3

I dunno. I really liked the first season. And then the second season destroyed it. A feeling that would repeat later on after I watched season 2 of Altered Carbon.


Grinchieur

I consider Altered Carbon as a mini serie of one season. The 2nd doesn't exist.


crypticfreak

Bump to see what you guys are talking about (but I'm currently at work and scared to watch).


monstargh

Abridged version of darling in the franix, it's pure anime tropes


mrsegraves

I recently watched Star Wars Visions. There's one particularly whacked out episode. Just throws all logic out the window, plot is utter nonsense. Sure enough, Trigger


i_tyrant

Most of those were kinda fun to watch, but...there's like no way they're officially part of the SW universe, right? There were a bunch of times where I was like "wow these guys don't care about how this works in canon at _all_"


DaCrowHunter

I dropped that show so fast. When it was doggy style robots fighting monsters, cool. When it tried to develop plot (and not just "plot") it started going up it's own butthole.


degjo

Doggy style robots? As in sex robots?


Gestrid

Google tells me they're talking about Darling in the FranXX.


magistrate101

It was supposed to be 2 seasons and the second season got cancelled halfway through the first so they just crammed the head of season 2 into the asshole of season 1. I imagine that it would've been at least twice as good with both seasons.


satans_cookiemallet

Is there a sauce to that? Because there was never any news similar to that when I was watching. It was designed to be a 2-cour series(25 episodes) so it ran it's full runtime.


stationhollow

They always go aliens. Fooled me once shame one me. Fool me twice, shame on me again. Fool me thrice, you're probably gonna Fool me at least once more time Gurren Laggan, Kill lia Kill, dino doggy show


Razuna

They stick with you when you don't want them to, and they disappear when you need them. Ran back to save a bot from certain doom only to have the bot instantly teleport to my other friend, leaving me alone with a Tallboy. The bots just feel like they hate humans and do everything to spite them.


Caldwing

Well if they are anything like the bots in the original games you definitely never, ever try to save them. It simply is not worth it almost ever.


Lopoi

The bot just want you to end its misery


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/RuHKpga.png)


PerformanceLoud3229

Hey realistic bots.


LordVortekan

ಠ_ಠ


D4RTHV3DA

Sounds like a distant relative of[ Face McShooty](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDrWLxj_fHM).


Grifasaurus

Man, i have this problem with regular people just playing literally any game. You'd think people never learned that standing in front of a gun is a bad idea, even in video games. but no...it's especially annoying in halo.


Resonance__Cascade

My favorite is in Deep Rock Galactic when I'm playing the Gunner with Lead Storm. Massive increase in damage - but you can't move when firing. Every lobby: Hey folks, I'm running Lead Storm. Minigun has right of way. Almost always someone walks right into my stream of fire and then is like 'oh, yeah, I suppose I should have noticed the massive stream of red tracer fire I just walked into"


Arphrial

ROCK AND STONE!


Llamaman61

FOR KARL


Classic_Megaman

They’re as intelligent as teenagers in a horror movie.


__M-E-O-W__

Dude in Resident Evil 4 Ashley Graham at least was programmed to actually duck or move out of the way when you aimed a gun. Half the game is an escort mission but it was done right.


GoblinFive

LEEEEE-OON HAAAALP


thatguytony

Let's hide behind the wall of chainsaws.


IrishUpstart

As someone with no friends, this tells me all I need to know about B4B.


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/OJVLRMT.png)


ApolloFireweaver

Ironically, having one bot can actually be better than having 4 humans. A single bot can be an infinite ammo dispenser whenever you run low, which is almost enough to counter how stupid they are otherwise.


Cerenitee

They're also pretty good at marking treasure for you lol.


Broodwarcd

They are indispensable on fog maps. They are the only way you will not get swamped by mutants who just appear on top of you.


N0SleepTillHippo

They also give great handies


39thAccount

Defo buying it now this is all i needed to know


datwunkid

The bots in the game have a lot of extra perks to make up for AI limitations, and their lack of raw damage from lacking cards. Tons of damage resistance, a constant regenerating source of ammo and healing, and, well, aimbotting. If you learn to abuse the hell out of this they are way valuable than most players.


IrishUpstart

I appreciate the information. Cheers.


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Baul

Play in like 3 hours.


Evzzzzz

That reminds me…


DrVDB90

Play in like, a little less than 3 hours.


Evzzzzz

Thanks man!


kabal363

There is a level that is a very small "Activate this object 5 times and survive waves of zombies in between activations" With players, it's a little difficult, it is the end of an act so it makes sense that it's difficult. With bots, it is the easiest map in the entire game. You can just afk on the activation thing and the bots will make sure you do not take a single point of damage. They will shred anything that gets within 15 feet of you.


AAA1374

Honestly the bots were intolerable for me in this mission- sometimes they annihilate everything, and sometimes they just stare blankly while I'm incapacitated from a net and watch me go down then fuck off somewhere else. With people I knew running that mission, it was so easy. We prepped the shells and waited then just had one guy speed through it while we killed everything. Unless you're talking about one of the other missions that's pretty similar.


Uncle_Budy

Lack of single player progression, terrible bot AI... It's a bad time to not have any gaming friends


IrishUpstart

Being 43... I've grown used to it. *(Resumes faerie solitaire remastered)*


Lovat69

Ok, I am also forty three and have less friends than I'd like. Would like to unironically be my friend?


IrishUpstart

Indubitably.


actuallyimbatman

I hope you guys end up being friends and play games together


paleo2002

Does … that just work?


DiabloAcosta

It doesn't they'll never match the schedules and eventually they'll just admit they will just continue to play alone. Source: I'm a 38 yo gamer who has accepted all their friends grew up and I really don't like playing with other people as much as I thought


IrishUpstart

We had a nice chat if nothing else.


The_Wack_Knight

Me as a kid: Man you know what would be so cool? If we could play this game together even when our parents tell us we have to go home. We could just play on two separate tv's, and never have to stop playing! Me as an adult: Man, you know what would be nice. If we could just get together and play some couch multiplayer games. We could play on the same tv with no lag, and just kick back on the couch and chill. We wouldn't even have to worry about the internet trolls ruining the enjoyment of the games for everyone.


daemon08

Try looking into the communities that surround the game. Discord helps and most modern multiplayer games I've seen have a LFG(looking for group) channel.


UnknownAverage

As a solo player, it bothers me so much to see that almost all first-person zombie games are of this co-op genre designed for 4 people.


puffbro

I can only think of dying light on top of my head.


AscendedAncient

State of Decay 1 and 2


ButterYourShit

Especially since you cannot earn rewards/achievements in solo


Buezzi

They deserve awards, really. On veteran difficulty they do better than 3 live teammates on recruit...just pray you don't have to stand near any ping-able items, they won't let you forget its there


aldiandyainf

do they behave differently on different difficulty?


Buezzi

I'm not 100% sure, I've played with bots on recruit and veteran, and they seem to be fairly competent the vast majority of the time. They have good awareness and help ping stuff you might miss, shoot well and help free you if you're pinned


GTX2GvO

So instead of Artificial Intelligence, they went with Artificial Stupidity. As if Real Stupidity wasn't bad enough.


Nickless0ne

is it worse than L4D 1/2? They were pretty much braindead as well from what I remember


GetADogLittleLongie

"help I locked myself in a closet even though I have a pistol"


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/dxoGJlb.png) *potato, tomato*


Nickless0ne

lol thanks for clarifying it


Jogey_The_Pirate

Oh no, the bots actually help in L4D. These ones just watch you die and it hurts


RagingWaffles

It seems much better than in the beta. I've actually been saved by them but usually after like 1-2 seconds. I think it's to give the bots a 'reaction time' for the player to either stun and break out or to prevent them from instantly saving you the millisecond it happens which might feel jarring.


Nightmare2828

It is balanced by the fact that they have a neverending supply of medkit and ammo they drop at you, and tag/highlight most of the mutations comming for you. Sadly, having 1 bot is often better than having a 4th teamates due to how bad most players are lol.


7f0b

L4D bots were better IIRC. These ones are particularly braindead. Sometimes standing still with their back to the action (often standing in your LOS), and not engaging at all. You can be pinned right next to them and it can take quite a bit of time before they decide to help. That being said, the random human players I've encountered (usually to fill our group) have been 50/50 just as bad.


sanford1958

Literally any of my friends in any game any time I’m trying to snipe…more games need friendly fire 😒


IforgotwhatIwasdoing

Always when I'm off in a corner somewhere they shouldn't have any reason to be walking through and they step in front right as I get the perfect shot.


LocusAintBad

I just unload on the bots and then they turn around and heal me. I love my bot teammates. They don’t scare birds. They kill zombies without hitting me. They drop the ammo I need when I’m low. They have unlimited resources. Bots OP. They might be dumb but they’re effective.


Kong_Diddy

What’s worse is when you’re playing with randos . Everyone always takes the good loot while you’re fighting a horde


marzbarzx

Lmao, this applies for WWZ too :’)


Dragonwarden30

I have the same problem in aliens fireteam elite.


Racxie

This is how I feel about FO4 companions.


Loverboy21

You could sub in Sheva from RE5 the same way, except she uses all the healing items to top off her 95% health.


Lieuwe21

I wish hey were more like the bots in vermintide 2.


Cakeski

\*Vibrating intensely on easy to traverse hill\*


slicer4ever

At least the bots give you ammo all the time, and heal you! can't say the same for human teammates i've had.


ShallowBasketcase

It truly is a Left 4 Dead sequel, stupid bots and all!


existonfilenerf

This is me everytime I get on that mounted minigun. Dumbasses just want to stand right in front of the barrel every single time.


Tunro

Ive only seen very few things about this game but it really just gives me the feeling id be ebtter of firing up left 4 dead


SrGrafo

[**EDIT**](https://i.imgur.com/hJOVVzL.png)


IforgotwhatIwasdoing

Just a little polish. I'm liking all the stuff they added to keep variety in the game. So it's not just running in and grabbing the ak, the auto shotty, or the semi-auto sniper every time. It's brutal that the melee weapons hurt friendlies though. Even if it's a small amount.


Qwertys118

Most of my squad uses "Down in Front" so friendly fire isn't as much of an issue. Most of the time I just spray shotgun at our melee user to protect them.


Axl4002

They're realistic. Trust me.


KulaanDoDinok

I haven’t really had many issues with the bots, and honestly value them more than the ransoms I get paired with. At least the bots pick me up/free me.


GoodSpeggetios

Their really helpful when I play and are actually good at the game. Idk what’s going on with you guys


Metaright

I feel like this doesn't have a punchline.


Yarusenai

None of his comics do.


Ocelote934

My first match that same dumb bot with the hat made a point to block my shots on a propane tank I set up to blast the ogre. Like he ran around to block me further I felt... then shouted at me the whole time for shooting it. I feel your pain lol


WillfulRiver

Devs probably did not implement avoiding aim technology


uhihia

Something something bots auto pathing


2006pow

“Pull the trigger, I dare you”


Xemidan

He's only standing still because you're not asking it nicely! Try it!


Probably_a_Bot_K

he just wants a hug


MrHippie90

Several times the bots threw c4 for only a small group of zomboes and then right after a boss spawned... actual nostalgia from l4d.


Barlimochimodator

Special Ed


Renzetii-chan

They must be secretly in cahoots with the enemy AI! I knew these AI were going to rebel sooner or later 😱


Fuzzy_Muscle

I had flashbacks of Boomer from SOCOM Navy Seals


xgggx

My favourite is watching them glitch out when they're trying to revive someone whilst standing slightly below them


Player1103

bots and enemies are connected through a cloud and plot against you