By - Doublechin222
Try diamine blue black, it's my go-to blue black and I keep on trying others and I keep on going back to it...
The lamy inks get a bad rap around here mostly because they're relatively tame, but they're wonderful for standard, easy to use colors. They do the colors we'll.
The colors are beautiful but I had a hard time getting them to flow well in the Lamy pens. I don't know if it was the cartridge or the ink or what.
I keep Lamy Blue-Black in my Lamy AL-Star, flows nice and has nice shading. Writes like a dream
You make it sound so good that I'm going to give the Lamy inks another try. I really like the Lamy blue that they send in the carts they include when you buy a pen. I've been setting them aside and not using them. I've got several sitting there. I'm going to use one and see if it works for me.
Lamy Blue-Black really is as good as it sounds! I hope you like it and have fun with Lamy’s inks
I'll get that one on your recommendation if the blue works out :)
Sometimes I'll pop a cartridge and fill it into a different pen. Just to see if the ink acts different. Lamy blue is fairly dry and works well in wetter pens in my opinion
I was underwhelmed with Lamy Blue cartridge in my Safari, did not flow well and looked faded. I get much better results from
my Safari with various bottled inks (have not tried Lamy bottled ink) and converter.
I just bought a bottle of blue-black and it does NOT like flowing out of my Wing Sung 699, to the point where I had to change inks. It wasn't skipping or hard starting, but the flow was never really great, and the pen was noticeably scratchier than with alternative inks.
The most interesting part is that's AFTER mylar, so it's definitely ink-related...
I love Lamy Blue Black, it is my definition of Blue Black, the colour is subtle yet I like it and it performs well on the cheapest of papers. Diamine Blue Black looks nice and darker than Lamy Blue Black. I might try it, but I’ll still keep Lamy Blue Black in stock. It’s the bland, plain colour that attracts me, it’s perfect for almost all occasions. Diamine Blue Black’s colour vary from what I see, the shading and the depth of the colour is splendid. Thanks for the recommendation!
I like the colour of Lamy BB too, it's so dignified while being blue. I also like Sailor Jentle blue black, exceptional flow and amazing subtle colour.
I know right! Lamy Blue-Black is magnificent and awe-inspiring. I like Sailor Jentle Blue-Black, especially the subtlety. My thoughts align with yours
I’m a big fan of Pilot Iroshizuku Tsuki-yo. I know it looks teal in sellers sites, but it’s not *really* teal. In my Odyssey notebooks it shows up as a dark blue-black with a hint of green. It’s beautiful and constantly inked in my Twsbi Eco 1.1 stub.
Tsuki-yo shows up as blue black? Remind me to never buy an Odessey notebook. I love the ink….it is definitely not a blue black.
[Tsuki-yo close up](https://imgur.com/a/9A5gtEo)
How it looks over here.
Your not alone. I've pelikan 4001 blue black in my Lamy Vista m nib. This ink can have great shading even when writing on normal copy paper.
Precisely, Lamy Blue-Black has some shading on cheap papers and better papers and I love it! It’s a long time resident in my Lamy AL-Star. Proves that quality isn’t necessarily associated with price. I have a question, does Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black fade as quickly as 4001 Royal Blue? My Royal Blue turned into a greyish blue after a month or less.
Not really. My 4001 royal blue doesn't fade on me yet (say, 6 months already?). The blue black I have is around 2 months, no fading yet.
Really? I’ll show you a picture of it
I love blue-black too. Just tried a sample of Taccia Hokusai Koiai, which is blue-black with subtle violet shading on Tomoe River paper. Love this ink!
A Blue-Black with sheen! What a gorgeous ink! Thank you for letting me know this! It’s dazzling!
it's the combo of being a nice basic with a little pizzaz for me since most of the blue-blacks i own either have a nice sheen or great shading.
Please show me your Blue-Blacks! Blue-Blacks are fun, who would have thought that mixing the two most common colours would make such a wondrous ink!
my favourites are [diamine oxford blue](https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/vbih3z/ink_study_spreads_the_diamine_summer/), diamine 1864 blue black, pilot blue-black, diamine midnight hour, and kobe kaikyou blue (it smells strange though)! the post i link has diamine oxford blue on the fifth slide but most of my writing can get pretty personal so taking photos of my journal can get pretty daunting.
I have Diamine Emerald as well! Is Diamine 1864 Blue-Black the same as Diamine Blue-Black? I love all of the inks you mentioned, Pilot Blue-Black is cheap and of high quality from what I have heard, Midnight Hour and Kobe Kakiyou Blue is the best options among the ones you mentioned. I find Oxford Blue to be more on the blue side with a hint of Blue-Black. Cheers anyways
1864 Blue Black is its own color and a fantastic ink. It's a super saturated deep blue black, sometimes you have to look closely to see any blue. Kinda flat color too, probably my favorite ink despite being "boring" compared to a sheen or shimmer ink.
I see, so there’s a Diamine Blue-Black and a 1864 version
1864 blue black is completely different and from diamine's anniversary line of inks. it has more of a purple-blue colour than the original blue black. oxford blue can be pretty blue but it's mainly been blue-black for me due to the pens that i use (extra fine - fine) which allows the ink to pool more and give a heavy pink-red sheen as well.
1864 is a shade darker from what I’ve seen and the normal Blue-Black is what it says it is, traditional Blue-Black. Thanks for clearing that up!
Blue-black inks are often different to other inks in ranges. Historically, they were all iron gall inks so waterproof and lightfast (at least the blackish part was) and with different flow characteristics to other pigment or dye based inks.
Intriguing, I would love to hear more
There’s a lot of information available about iron-gall inks, but roughly ….
Permanent inks were made from a combination of iron sulphate (iron) and tannic acid extracted from the galls found on certain trees when certain insects laid eggs on them (gall). This makes a transparent solution that can be used as an ink that oxidises as it dries and produces a blackish/dark purplish line. Because it is quite transparent, it was mixed with a blue dye so you could see what you were writing.
The blue would fade with exposure to light or wash away with exposure to water, but the black remains.
So blue-black was not a colour so much as a transformation from blue as you wrote, to black as it aged.
Wow! That is amazing and captivating. Never thought there would be so much to inks, cheers!
Blue black is a staple color that can be used any time in any setting. I have Sailor Seiboku, Iroshizuku shin-kai and tsuki-yo. Blue black is easy on the eyes, and I really like shin-kai the most out of the three. But Seiboku will give you some water resistance.
You'll find reviews of all three on Mountain of Ink.
Shin-Kai looks like a Blue-Black that leans more into the blue side. Tsuki-yo looks like a cyan ink. I like Seiboku, has a bit of shading and sheen, the little water resistance is a plus to me. My Lamy Blue-Black isn’t exactly water resistant, yet it still is legible after a drop of water. So a water resistant Blue-Black might a better candidate. Perfect Blue-Black auditions this way!
Hmmm, Noodler's Air Corp Blue-Black is waterproof and has a beautiful colour, but it's somehow green! Check online pics for a better view. My fav blue-black!
I know! It’s quite the fun colour
Pilot regular blue-black!
Is it nice except being incredibly cheap?
Yes very nice color, some water resistant and good flow. Very underrated
Good flow and water resistant and nice colour? I might just buy it!
Diamine Oxford blue is beautiful. Not really a blue black I guess but it’s a really dark navy blue that can look almost black sometimes
Yes, love the sheen. However, I could never tell the difference between Navy Blue inks and Blue-Black inks
Agreed, Sailor souboku has unwittingly become one of my favourites as a fits-all ink that feels just a little classy and special.
Indeed, Blue-Blacks are suitable for all occasions.
You're not alone. I have 12 bottles (and counting) of various blue black inks. They're just gorgeous and you can't get these colour anywhere else.
Some of my favorites are:
- Pilot Iroshizuku Shinkai
- Pilot Blue Black
- Diamine Midnight
- Diamine Blue Black
- Pelikan 4001 Blue black
Is Diamine Blue-Black permanent? Given the sheer number of you recommending Diamine Blue-Black, and Diamine Midnight Hour. I might just try it in the near future. Darker Blue-Blacks are new to me
I don't think so. The Diamine permanent blue black is called Registrars. It's on the black side of blue black, I find.
I see, I’ll check it out
Sailor Seiboku, Pelikan Blue-black, and Pelikan Tanzanite are some of my favorite inks!
What’s the difference between Pelikan Blue-Black and Tanzanite?
I’ve only every used Tanzanite in cartridge form, and have not done enough with it to give you an accurate comparison. The main difference for an American is that Pelikan Blue-black may not be accessible in the states; tanzanite is available.
I have to try Blue-Black. My favorite is the Lamy Violet. I also like Lamy Blue. Never had a problem with the inks because I only use them in my Safaris.
You have to try Blue-Black! It’s magnificent. I would love to try their Violet ink, but it’s unavailable in where I live. Do you mind sending my a picture of the ink in action?
Lamy Blue Black is very nice ink. Pleasant hue range and even decent water resistance.
I know! That’s one of the reasons I love it, it surpassed my expectations as a mere bottle of free ink! Decent for its price
Lamy Blue Black is my favourite ink. I use black as well for more formal documents but blue black is my go to.
I have a rotation of Montblanc, Kawecos and Parkers and it’s great in them all.
Lamy Blue-Black is indeed, an all-round ink, I am obliged to agree with you
Lamy Blue-Black is one of my favorites and go to every day ink! It works well and is water resistant enough that I don't worry about it. I don't love the blue cartridges that come with many Lamy pens (they don't seem to flow well), but I recently bought a bottle of Lamy Black to see if it can become my standard choice as a black ink.
Lamy’s inks are quite nice. I don’t like Lamy Blue, uncertain whether bottled ones are the same, but au just don’t like the colour. Same goes for all royal blues. It’s light in colour and doesn’t look attractive. Their Blue-Black is so nice! Underrated ink indeed. I hope that Lamy Black would prove to be as good as their Blue-Black
Hi. Lamy blue is a nice ink, just recently finished a bottle of it. Lamy Turquoise is my favourite ink in my L2K Bauhaus-Blue.😍 Cheers
Lamy Blue, what do you like about it?
I am a HUGE fan of Pelikan blue-black, R&K Salix and Aurora’s blue-black.
Salix, peculiar how no one mentions it. What are your views on Salix
It's iron gall, so it works well even on cheap paper and has great shading. More blue-grey than blue-black. Good water resistance and easy to clean out of my pens.
Blue-grey? I see
Aurora blue-black is my fav!!! ❤️
How so? That depth of colour does appeal to me
Rich, deep tone that isn’t a wet mess in my nibs!!
Love that rich colour. Some inks are hard to manage, have to agree with you on that one
Sailor Seiboku is beautiful. It’s probably my favorite ink, and I can use it at work.
Any aspects in particular? As in why is it your favourite ink?
It shades really well, easy on my pens, dries quickly, and is bulletproof.
From what I have heard, it isn’t bulletproof, just water resistant. So how easy to clean is it?
Eh, close enough for me. It’s more water resistant than Noodlers black and pretty dang permanent. I’ve had zero problems cleaning it out of my pens, and I’ve gone weeks without writing and the pen starts right away.
Amazing, more resistant than Noodler’s Black? That’s unbelievable! You make me want to buy it right away!
My favorite is probably Stroke of Midnight by Ferris Wheel Press. It is a shimmer ink, but it's magnificent.
Would definitely buy it, (I’m a spendthrift person) if it weren’t for the glitter
Levenger’s “Empyrean” is one of my favorite colors.
Wow, amazing, love the depth of colour. Is it hard to get?
The website says limited quantities available.
I actually prefer brighter colours and never use black ink and rarely use blue/black ink
Why, except liking brighter colours
Well they are just a bit boring to me.
To each their own
I just realized I've got Pilot Blue Black, Diamine Blue Black and Noodlers Blue Black. I like them all even though they are very different from each other.
Noodler’s Blue-Black is something I have never heard of. How is it?
blue black is the best ink color out there. out of the 6 ink bottles i own, 4 are blue black.
Sheaffer Blue Black is a personal favorite of mine. The shading is lovely and it flows really well.
The colour leans onto the grey side and looks pretty light to me, not my cup of tea
I’m a big fan of blue-black inks—they’re pretty much all I use on a daily basis. My faves are the Lamy and Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite on the more “black” end of the spectrum. Pilot and Platinum blue-blacks are really more like nice, rich blues with greater depth.
Amen to the Lamy part. A darker Blue-Black sound wonderful! The Pilot is a blue with depth or a Blue-Black with depth?
I’m not sure how to attach a photo I just made of writing samples with the Edelstein, Platinum, and Pilot inks, but of the three I’d say that the Platinum blue-black is on the blue end of the continuum. It’s clearly darker than a royal blue, but compared to the Lamy or Edelstein inks it’s still pretty bright. The Pilot blue-black is squarely in the middle, reminiscent of a dark blue ballpoint ink. If I had to choose only one ink to use for the rest of my life, it’d be the Pilot. The only reason I don’t use it in all of my pens is that my bottle has a pretty strong odor to it that might be infection, but it might just be the way the ink smells, period—it hasn’t gotten any stronger in the time that I’ve had it.
I see, the Pilot sounds so good, I desperately want it now